*NBA THREAD* Abe will be missed (3 Viewers)

[No. 16]

The "hot" rumor down here is for the Magic to sign and trade JRich to the Warriors for Monte, amnesty Arenas and make a push for Battier or someone similar.

This would appease the Great and Angry Dwight. Allegedly.

Who really ####ing knows.

Hahaha. GSW already made their choice between J-Rich and Monta when they traded J-Rich to the Bobcats. Why would they do this again?

No idea. Not saying it'll happen, just read it on a few sites. Money?

That's the point. If you have no idea of why either side would do the trade, it's probably BS speculation.

Aren't you the same guy posting stupid Warrior trade ideas all the time?

???I usually give my take on trades that others have reported, but again I try to weed out the BS rumors and discuss the ones that actually make some sense.

Your last trade post was Dwight ####ing Howard for Monta Ellis, some guy named Wright and "filler". Nice work, Scoop.

I never reported it as a trade. That whole "trade" was commenting on how insane Magic fans think they can get Ellis on the roster without letting go of Howard, when there is nothing remotely enticing on that roster to get the Warriors to trade a player of Ellis caliber (not that he's all that to begin with).

To state it more simply....

The Warriors have more "trade assets" to get Howard than Orlando has to get Ellis.

Just to make it clear to you here's the post you are referring to:

The Magic have nothing for Paul, but I have to think they could get creative on Ellis. Who knows.

I don't see anything on the Magic's roster that I think GS would be interested in. Ellis for Nelson seems like a step backwards.

Doubt that will happen unless the Magic get a 3rd team involved and can dump Biedrins contract. There's really nothing on the Magic roster outside of Howard that is enough to get someone like Ellis. Not saying it's going to happen, but I think it would be more likely the Warriors get Howard to pair will Ellis if that's Howard's wish.A package that involves anyone of the Warriors roster for Howard will be more plausible than what the Magic have to offer for Ellis. Warriors can offer:- Ellis or Curry- Wright or Klay Thompson- Throw in Udoh and whatever the hell you want to make salaries match and get the deal done.The Warriors would be left with...Curry/EllisDavid LeeDwight Howard to build around, which is pretty damn good, IMO, if they surround them with wingmen like Affalo who can defend and shoot.

If you actually read what I wrote, I was trying to show you that unless there is a 3rd team involved or Howard is going to ORL, there is little chance Monta Ellis goes to ORL considering the crap players Dwight Howard is trying to get away from. The funny part is the exact trade I mentioned was rumored to be what the Warriors were offering/NOR wanted in exchange for CP3 (Curry/Thompson/Udoh for CP3).

So sorry Premier, I know it's hard to accept it but Orland is SOL in getting Dwight Howard help this year and the dude is going to leave. Where there is smoke, there's fire.

 

[Premier]

at a Warriors fan talking smack about another team.

Wake me when you guys are ever relevant.

 

[Gr00vus]

Which stage is cappy in - shock & denial, pain & guilt, or anger & bargaining? It's tough to tell here because he's got anger as a base state to begin with.

I think it's time to fire up that Bucs championship DVD.

 

[tommyGunZ]

Which stage is cappy in - shock & denial, pain & guilt, or anger & bargaining? It's tough to tell here because he's got anger as a base state to begin with.

I think it's time to fire up that Bucs championship DVD.

Although in his defense, it must be tough being an AAA-Orlando Magic fan these days. Maybe they'd have been better off drafting Emeke after all.

 

[No. 16]

at a Warriors fan talking smack about another team. Wake me when you guys are ever relevant.

No worries, Warriors will be fine with the new ownership.Sucks to be a Magic fan knowing they have drafted the 2 most dominant big men in the past 3 generations and that they still haven't learned how to build a team around them.Magic roster sans Howard will be one of the worst in the entire league.

 

[Gr00vus]

Which stage is cappy in - shock & denial, pain & guilt, or anger & bargaining? It's tough to tell here because he's got anger as a base state to begin with.

I think it's time to fire up that Bucs championship DVD.

Although in his defense, it must be tough being an AAA-Orlando Magic fan these days. Maybe they'd have been better off drafting Emeke after all.

I'd be frustrated as hell if I were him (or any other Magic fan). They land a perennial top 5/10 player and can't get over the top with him, eventually making a mess of the roster in the process. And I can sympathize because Otis Smith is to the Magic as A.J. Smith is to the Chargers.

 

[Premier]

Which stage is cappy in - shock & denial, pain & guilt, or anger & bargaining? It's tough to tell here because he's got anger as a base state to begin with.

I think it's time to fire up that Bucs championship DVD.

Although in his defense, it must be tough being an AAA-Orlando Magic fan these days. Maybe they'd have been better off drafting Emeke after all.

Chargers/Padre fan.

 

[Premier]

Which stage is cappy in - shock & denial, pain & guilt, or anger & bargaining? It's tough to tell here because he's got anger as a base state to begin with.

I think it's time to fire up that Bucs championship DVD.

I'm not really that angry. If it happens it happens. All I did was post something that was on 3 Magic blogs the past few days. It's just weird to see No. 16 flip out over a bad trade idea when all he does is post idiotic trade ideas. Even a fellow Warrior fan called him out on that the other day.

 

[tommyGunZ]

Which stage is cappy in - shock & denial, pain & guilt, or anger & bargaining? It's tough to tell here because he's got anger as a base state to begin with.

I think it's time to fire up that Bucs championship DVD.

Although in his defense, it must be tough being an AAA-Orlando Magic fan these days. Maybe they'd have been better off drafting Emeke after all.

Chargers/Padre fan.

Chargers and Padres have been in the playoffs more often than not the past 5 years, Sparky. Please tell Dwight to leave the "God" shtick in Minnie Mouse land. They're gonna need it.

 

[Premier]

at a Warriors fan talking smack about another team. Wake me when you guys are ever relevant.

No worries, Warriors will be fine with the new ownership.Sucks to be a Magic fan knowing they have drafted the 2 most dominant big men in the past 3 generations and that they still haven't learned how to build a team around them.

They made 2 Finals in 15 years. Not the greatest run ever but certainly not 30 years of bad basketball like the Warriors have had. At least I know what it's like for my team to experience an amazing, deep playoff run.

 

[thecatch]

at a Warriors fan talking smack about another team. Wake me when you guys are ever relevant.

No worries, Warriors will be fine with the new ownership.

Not talking smack or anything here, but you seem to be awfully confident in the new ownership without them having done anything yet. I've seen several references to it at this point.

 

[Premier]

Which stage is cappy in - shock & denial, pain & guilt, or anger & bargaining? It's tough to tell here because he's got anger as a base state to begin with.

I think it's time to fire up that Bucs championship DVD.

Although in his defense, it must be tough being an AAA-Orlando Magic fan these days. Maybe they'd have been better off drafting Emeke after all.

Chargers/Padre fan.

Chargers and Padres have been in the playoffs more often than not the past 5 years, Sparky. Please tell Dwight to leave the "God" shtick in Minnie Mouse land. They're gonna need it.

And yet, they've never won a thing. Ever. Pads gonna take down 45 games next year?

 

[No. 16]

Which stage is cappy in - shock & denial, pain & guilt, or anger & bargaining? It's tough to tell here because he's got anger as a base state to begin with.

I think it's time to fire up that Bucs championship DVD.

I'm not really that angry. If it happens it happens. All I did was post something that was on 3 Magic blogs the past few days. It's just weird to see No. 16 flip out over a bad trade idea when all he does is post idiotic trade ideas. Even a fellow Warrior fan called him out on that the other day.

Who called me out on it?BTW, not sure what I said was considered "flipping out"?

I know I've suggested Josh Childress is the 2nd coming, but I don't think I've ever posted a rumor as ridiculous as: Orlando Magic to re-sign a past his prime SG in hopes of trading him back to the team that traded him away in the first place to clear playing time for the younger SG that they hope to acquire.

 

[No. 16]

at a Warriors fan talking smack about another team. Wake me when you guys are ever relevant.

No worries, Warriors will be fine with the new ownership.Sucks to be a Magic fan knowing they have drafted the 2 most dominant big men in the past 3 generations and that they still haven't learned how to build a team around them.

They made 2 Finals in 15 years. Not the greatest run ever but certainly not 30 years of bad basketball like the Warriors have had. At least I know what it's like for my team to experience an amazing, deep playoff run.

Yay for you! You certainly had a role in that and it's my fault the Warriors have sucked. I don't understand why rooting for the Warriors plays a role in my ability to analyze basketball and dumb ### trades.I'm happy you've experienced deep playoff runs, get ready to be irrelevant for the next decade unless Orlando lucks into another once in a decade big man.

 

[No. 16]

at a Warriors fan talking smack about another team. Wake me when you guys are ever relevant.

No worries, Warriors will be fine with the new ownership.

Not talking smack or anything here, but you seem to be awfully confident in the new ownership without them having done anything yet. I've seen several references to it at this point.

I like what I've read and what I've heard so far. Their philosophies match up with how I would go about rebuilding the Warriors.Plus anything's an upgrade from Cohan.

 

[Premier]

at a Warriors fan talking smack about another team. Wake me when you guys are ever relevant.

No worries, Warriors will be fine with the new ownership.Sucks to be a Magic fan knowing they have drafted the 2 most dominant big men in the past 3 generations and that they still haven't learned how to build a team around them.

They made 2 Finals in 15 years. Not the greatest run ever but certainly not 30 years of bad basketball like the Warriors have had. At least I know what it's like for my team to experience an amazing, deep playoff run.

Yay for you! You certainly had a role in that and it's my fault the Warriors have sucked. I don't understand why rooting for the Warriors plays a role in my ability to analyze basketball and dumb ### trades.I'm happy you've experienced deep playoff runs, get ready to be irrelevant for the next decade unless Orlando lucks into another once in a decade big man.

Never said I had a role in it. Just that it hasn't been that bad here as you attempted to suggest. The fact you root for a bad team has nothing to do with your ability to analyze basketball. The fact that you can't analyze basketball, however, has something to do with your inability to analyze basketball. I mean you did just propose a Monte Ellis for Dwight Howard idea.

 

[No. 16]

at a Warriors fan talking smack about another team. Wake me when you guys are ever relevant.

No worries, Warriors will be fine with the new ownership.Sucks to be a Magic fan knowing they have drafted the 2 most dominant big men in the past 3 generations and that they still haven't learned how to build a team around them.

They made 2 Finals in 15 years. Not the greatest run ever but certainly not 30 years of bad basketball like the Warriors have had. At least I know what it's like for my team to experience an amazing, deep playoff run.

Yay for you! You certainly had a role in that and it's my fault the Warriors have sucked. I don't understand why rooting for the Warriors plays a role in my ability to analyze basketball and dumb ### trades.I'm happy you've experienced deep playoff runs, get ready to be irrelevant for the next decade unless Orlando lucks into another once in a decade big man.

Never said I had a role in it. Just that it hasn't been that bad here as you attempted to suggest. The fact you root for a bad team has nothing to do with your ability to analyze basketball. The fact that you can't analyze basketball, however, has something to do with your inability to analyze basketball. I mean you did just propose a Monte Ellis for Dwight Howard idea.

Can't even spell the dude's name right.ETA: I did and it is more plausible than a J-Rich for Ellis deal.

 

[tommyGunZ]

Kapono takes the vet minimum (1.2M) to chase a ring in LA. FINALLY. Best shooter we've had since Glenn Freakin' Rice.

 

[Gr00vus]

Kapono takes the vet minimum (1.2M) to chase a ring in LA. FINALLY. Best shooter we've had since Glenn Freakin' Rice.

Guy couldn't get on the floor for the friggin 76ers FFS. I think it's a one year sop so Fisher doesn't have to feel bad about being the worst perimeter defender on the team anymore.

 

[Kev4029]

Kapono takes the vet minimum (1.2M) to chase a ring in LA. FINALLY. Best shooter we've had since Glenn Freakin' Rice.

Guy couldn't get on the floor for the friggin 76ers FFS. I think it's a one year sop so Fisher doesn't have to feel bad about being the worst perimeter defender on the team anymore.

They are just trying to create a lineup of five white dudes:BlakeKaponoWaltonGasolI suspect they'll be signing Aaron Gray or Brian Cardinal soon. Is Chris Mihm still around?

 

[tommyGunZ]

Kapono takes the vet minimum (1.2M) to chase a ring in LA. FINALLY. Best shooter we've had since Glenn Freakin' Rice.

Guy couldn't get on the floor for the friggin 76ers FFS. I think it's a one year sop so Fisher doesn't have to feel bad about being the worst perimeter defender on the team anymore.

Sixers don't have 2 7 foot bigs on the floor at the same time like the Lakers do for 48 minutes. Maybe Kapono's finished and it will be a Bob-Sanders-like a waste of money, but I like it. Not having any outside shooting has KILLED the Lakers in recent years. If Peja can still make an impact, Kapono should be able to.

 

[Kev4029]

Kapono takes the vet minimum (1.2M) to chase a ring in LA. FINALLY. Best shooter we've had since Glenn Freakin' Rice.

Guy couldn't get on the floor for the friggin 76ers FFS. I think it's a one year sop so Fisher doesn't have to feel bad about being the worst perimeter defender on the team anymore.

Sixers don't have 2 7 foot bigs on the floor at the same time like the Lakers do for 48 minutes. Maybe Kapono's finished and it will be a Bob-Sanders-like a waste of money, but I like it. Not having any outside shooting has KILLED the Lakers in recent years. If Peja can still make an impact, Kapono should be able to.

Peja is a good offensive player who is terrible defensively and was having back problems which made him worthless all over the floor, Jason Kapono is a horrible basketball player who can shoot. Steve Novak is a free agent too, imagine those two on the court at the same time. That would surely be the most unintentional comedy from an NBA duo ever.

 

[thecatch]

Looking like chuck Hayes will accept a four yr 20 million deal from sacramento. If so, Dalembert will be on the move. I think I like Hayes at five a lot more than Sammy at ten.

 

[tommyGunZ]

Looking like chuck Hayes will accept a four yr 20 million deal from sacramento. If so, Dalembert will be on the move. I think I like Hayes at five a lot more than Sammy at ten.

I like Hayes as a player, but he's a rotation guy, not a starting center in the league. He's a fantastic backup for Cousins.

 

[Abraham]

Good for Chuck. I hate to see him leave the Rockets but Sacramento fans will love him. He's a tough player who doesn't shy from defense and the hard rebound. He's worked hard guarding much bigger guys and never getting noticed. He deserves the pay day. As a note, dude is center and MIGHT be a hair over 6'4. I saw him out in Houston three years ago and can say with certainty that he's not much taller than me.

 

[thecatch]

Looking like chuck Hayes will accept a four yr 20 million deal from sacramento. If so, Dalembert will be on the move. I think I like Hayes at five a lot more than Sammy at ten.

I like Hayes as a player, but he's a rotation guy, not a starting center in the league. He's a fantastic backup for Cousins.

There's enough size there with Hickson, Thompson, and Cousins so that he won't have to log huge minutes.

 

[tommyGunZ]

Looking like chuck Hayes will accept a four yr 20 million deal from sacramento. If so, Dalembert will be on the move. I think I like Hayes at five a lot more than Sammy at ten.

I like Hayes as a player, but he's a rotation guy, not a starting center in the league. He's a fantastic backup for Cousins.

There's enough size there with Hickson, Thompson, and Cousins so that he won't have to log huge minutes.

I agree. Good signing for your boys. I like Hayes. He's very efficient and does the dirty work.

 

[Wooderson]

Looking like chuck Hayes will accept a four yr 20 million deal from sacramento. If so, Dalembert will be on the move. I think I like Hayes at five a lot more than Sammy at ten.

I like Hayes as a player, but he's a rotation guy, not a starting center in the league. He's a fantastic backup for Cousins.

There's enough size there with Hickson, Thompson, and Cousins so that he won't have to log huge minutes.

I agree. Good signing for your boys. I like Hayes. He's very efficient and does the dirty work.

The Kings "Back In Black"Team could use a Hayes

 

[Kev4029]

Looking like chuck Hayes will accept a four yr 20 million deal from sacramento. If so, Dalembert will be on the move. I think I like Hayes at five a lot more than Sammy at ten.

This is bad news for the league. Hes probably the 15th or so best big in free agency and a guy who should only be playing about 20 minutes a game at most, and he just signed that contract. I think we are about to see the worst free agency period in the history of the NBA.

 

[Premier]

Looking like chuck Hayes will accept a four yr 20 million deal from sacramento. If so, Dalembert will be on the move. I think I like Hayes at five a lot more than Sammy at ten.

This is bad news for the league. Hes probably the 15th or so best big in free agency and a guy who should only be playing about 20 minutes a game at most, and he just signed that contract. I think we are about to see the worst free agency period in the history of the NBA.

Good thing we had that lockout.

 

[Wooderson]

Looking like chuck Hayes will accept a four yr 20 million deal from sacramento. If so, Dalembert will be on the move. I think I like Hayes at five a lot more than Sammy at ten.

This is bad news for the league. Hes probably the 15th or so best big in free agency and a guy who should only be playing about 20 minutes a game at most, and he just signed that contract. I think we are about to see the worst free agency period in the history of the NBA.

What are saying the Kings made a bad decision. I can't believe it. I wont believe it!!!

 

[Good Posting Judge]

at a Warriors fan talking smack about another team.

Wake me when you guys are ever relevant.

No worries, Warriors will be fine with the new ownership.Sucks to be a Magic fan knowing they have drafted the 2 most dominant big men in the past 3 generations and that they still haven't learned how to build a team around them.

They made 2 Finals in 15 years. Not the greatest run ever but certainly not 30 years of bad basketball like the Warriors have had. At least I know what it's like for my team to experience an amazing, deep playoff run.

Yay for you! You certainly had a role in that and it's my fault the Warriors have sucked. I don't understand why rooting for the Warriors plays a role in my ability to analyze basketball and dumb ### trades.I'm happy you've experienced deep playoff runs, get ready to be irrelevant for the next decade unless Orlando lucks into another once in a decade big man.

Never said I had a role in it. Just that it hasn't been that bad here as you attempted to suggest. The fact you root for a bad team has nothing to do with your ability to analyze basketball. The fact that you can't analyze basketball, however, has something to do with your inability to analyze basketball. I mean you did just propose a Monte Ellis for Dwight Howard idea.

Can't even spell the dude's name right.ETA: I did and it is more plausible than a J-Rich for Ellis deal.

Both are implausible, but Howard-for-Ellis is far more implausible than Richardson-for-Ellis.

 

[Premier]

"Dwight Howard wants to stay with the Orlando Magic for the rest of his career--and the organization's goal is the same--and remaining with Orlando is "by far" his preference, according to Bill Ingram of HOOPSWORLD, and "he is willing to give them every opportunity to keep him." However, unless the Magic manage to improve their roster and again become championship contenders, he may not stay.

Ingram, who says his report gives "the gist" of what Howard said in a meeting with Magic President of Basketball Operations Otis Smith on Tuesday, also notes Howard's "wishlist" of players for Orlando to acquire includes childhood friend Josh Smith, Andre Iguodala, and Monta Ellis. Prior to the start of the lockout, Ken Berger reported that the Magic had indeed contacted the Atlanta Hawks to discuss acquiring Smith. "

 

[thecatch]

Looking like chuck Hayes will accept a four yr 20 million deal from sacramento. If so, Dalembert will be on the move. I think I like Hayes at five a lot more than Sammy at ten.

This is bad news for the league. Hes probably the 15th or so best big in free agency and a guy who should only be playing about 20 minutes a game at most, and he just signed that contract. I think we are about to see the worst free agency period in the history of the NBA.

The minimum salary threshold is going to generate some bad contracts. That said, the contract length limitations will prevent it from being the worst free agency period ever.

 

[Kev4029]

Looking like chuck Hayes will accept a four yr 20 million deal from sacramento. If so, Dalembert will be on the move. I think I like Hayes at five a lot more than Sammy at ten.

This is bad news for the league. Hes probably the 15th or so best big in free agency and a guy who should only be playing about 20 minutes a game at most, and he just signed that contract. I think we are about to see the worst free agency period in the history of the NBA.

The minimum salary threshold is going to generate some bad contracts. That said, the contract length limitations will prevent it from being the worst free agency period ever.

With the minimum salary threshold the rest of the NBA should do like the Knicks did for the last three years, lots of one and two year contracts of over market value. This year there are more teams with cap that I can remember, other than last year, and its also the weakest free agency class I can remember (I'm sure there have been worse, but not with as much empty cap as this year). I don't think there are gonna be many $10M+/yr contracts, but I see a whole lot of deals similar to the one Chuck Hayes got for players that deserve to be on $2M/yr contracts for one or two years (like Chuck Hayes). The Kenyon Martin/Rashard Lewis type contracts are the most crippling, but having a few Carrol/Diop/Diaw contracts like the Bobcats have may be worse.

 

[Kiddnets]

Caron Butler spending a 2d day with the Nets....at potential $7M for 4-5 yrs is this as bad a signing as I think it is....amnesty Outlaws crappy contract and add this one....or is there upside in Butler im not seeing.....

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

The Hornets' interest in Rondo is lukewarm at best, but one scenario in circulation would involve the Indiana Pacers and route former Hornets point guard Darren Collison back to New Orleans and land Rondo with the Pacers and Paul with the Celtics. Yet several other players would have to be involved to make such a deal work -- with more established talent going to New Orleans -- and there was no indication Wednesday that such a deal was close to completion. ESPN.com

TO THE TRADE MACHINE!

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Caron Butler spending a 2d day with the Nets....at potential $7M for 4-5 yrs is this as bad a signing as I think it is....amnesty Outlaws crappy contract and add this one....or is there upside in Butler im not seeing.....

Butler might have two solid years as a contributor in him, so yeah.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

The Hornets' interest in Rondo is lukewarm at best, but one scenario in circulation would involve the Indiana Pacers and route former Hornets point guard Darren Collison back to New Orleans and land Rondo with the Pacers and Paul with the Celtics. Yet several other players would have to be involved to make such a deal work -- with more established talent going to New Orleans -- and there was no indication Wednesday that such a deal was close to completion. ESPN.com

TO THE TRADE MACHINE!

Maybe this deal, plus a first from Indiana and a first from Boston? Still not sure Boston gives enough though.Or this? And two firsts from Boston.

 

[Sammy3469]

Why Shane....WHY?

Battier's going to the Heat

 

[Kiddnets]

Caron Butler spending a 2d day with the Nets....at potential $7M for 4-5 yrs is this as bad a signing as I think it is....amnesty Outlaws crappy contract and add this one....or is there upside in Butler im not seeing.....

Butler might have two solid years as a contributor in him, so yeah.

Confirming my paranoia....DWill must want him....cant imagine why

 

[Kev4029]

Caron Butler spending a 2d day with the Nets....at potential $7M for 4-5 yrs is this as bad a signing as I think it is....amnesty Outlaws crappy contract and add this one....or is there upside in Butler im not seeing.....

Jesus. Poor Nets fans, you thought you were getting a great owner but instead hes like a worse version of Daniel Snyder forcing his team to make horrible deal after horrible deal. Its certainly a better contract than Outlaw, but still a horrible contract.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

The Hornets' interest in Rondo is lukewarm at best, but one scenario in circulation would involve the Indiana Pacers and route former Hornets point guard Darren Collison back to New Orleans and land Rondo with the Pacers and Paul with the Celtics. Yet several other players would have to be involved to make such a deal work -- with more established talent going to New Orleans -- and there was no indication Wednesday that such a deal was close to completion. ESPN.com

TO THE TRADE MACHINE!

Maybe this deal, plus a first from Indiana and a first from Boston? Still not sure Boston gives enough though.Or this? And two firsts from Boston.

The Celtics had discussions with the Indiana Pacers about the framework of a deal that could’ve sent Paul to the Celtics, Rondo to Indiana and a package, including former Hornet Darren Collison, Tyler Hansbrough, Brandon Rush and draft picks, to New Orleans, sources said. New Orleans would have keener interest in small forwards Danny Granger or Paul George but Pacers president Larry Bird has declared those players “untouchable” in trade talks, sources said. Yahoo! Sports

I guess that would be this + picks.

 

[Kiddnets]

Caron Butler spending a 2d day with the Nets....at potential $7M for 4-5 yrs is this as bad a signing as I think it is....amnesty Outlaws crappy contract and add this one....or is there upside in Butler im not seeing.....

Jesus. Poor Nets fans, you thought you were getting a great owner but instead hes like a worse version of Daniel Snyder forcing his team to make horrible deal after horrible deal. Its certainly a better contract than Outlaw, but still a horrible contract.

funny thing is reports are Nets are begging him to take the deal and he is hedging for elsewhere! Lol - save the Nets from themselves!!!!

 

[JMon348]

So what is the Heat end of the game lineup now?

Wade

Battier

James

Bosh

Haslem

 

[JMon348]

The Hornets' interest in Rondo is lukewarm at best, but one scenario in circulation would involve the Indiana Pacers and route former Hornets point guard Darren Collison back to New Orleans and land Rondo with the Pacers and Paul with the Celtics. Yet several other players would have to be involved to make such a deal work -- with more established talent going to New Orleans -- and there was no indication Wednesday that such a deal was close to completion. ESPN.com

TO THE TRADE MACHINE!

Maybe this deal, plus a first from Indiana and a first from Boston? Still not sure Boston gives enough though.Or this? And two firsts from Boston.

The Celtics had discussions with the Indiana Pacers about the framework of a deal that could’ve sent Paul to the Celtics, Rondo to Indiana and a package, including former Hornet Darren Collison, Tyler Hansbrough, Brandon Rush and draft picks, to New Orleans, sources said. New Orleans would have keener interest in small forwards Danny Granger or Paul George but Pacers president Larry Bird has declared those players “untouchable” in trade talks, sources said. Yahoo! Sports

I guess that would be this + picks.

Apparently the Hornets want Paul George and the Pacers are saying no. Bird would be dumb to not upgrade from Collison to Rondo just because of Paul George.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Caron Butler spending a 2d day with the Nets....at potential $7M for 4-5 yrs is this as bad a signing as I think it is....amnesty Outlaws crappy contract and add this one....or is there upside in Butler im not seeing.....

Jesus. Poor Nets fans, you thought you were getting a great owner but instead hes like a worse version of Daniel Snyder forcing his team to make horrible deal after horrible deal. Its certainly a better contract than Outlaw, but still a horrible contract.

funny thing is reports are Nets are begging him to take the deal and he is hedging for elsewhere! Lol - save the Nets from themselves!!!!

Yeah, I think 4 teams are in, two of which can only offer the $5MM exception:

Butler left his meeting with the Bulls earlier this week with a deep appreciation for coach Tom Thibodeau, sources said. Butler’s willingness to possibly take less money from a championship contender is made easier with his personal business holdings. Butler, 31, has also met with the Los Angeles Clippers, San Antonio Spurs and New Jersey Nets this week. The Clippers and Nets have room underneath the salary cap to offer Butler more than the $5 million midlevel exception. Yahoo! Sports

 

[AcerFC]

The knicks are signing Grant Hill. He is still in the league?

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Rumors:

Spurs to sign TJ Ford

Raptors to sign Jamal 'Warm Body' Magloire.

 

[Abraham]

The heat signed battier to guard dirk. Makes sense I suppose, if you believe that the mavs will make it through the west again. Battier has not been historically great guarding Kobe (not many have) and iirc he is marginal against Ginobli and durant.