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[Popinski]

Another Broussard update: Brandon Roy expected to retire because of chronic knee issues.

 

[Bobcat10]

So Roy is doing the Blazers a favor as they don't have to amnesty him...or did that already happen?

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Broussard who broke news of Howard's intentions, said the deal, as he understands it, would be Howard for Brook Lopez and two first round draft choices, presumably the Nets two picks in 2012: their own' first round pick and the Rockets lottery-protected pick obtained in the Terrence Williams trade a year ago. Whether other players would be included remains uncertain.

There has got to be more than this from the Nets, right?

TO THE TRADE MACHINE!

 

[Popinski]

Wouldn't the Magic rather have Bynum than Lopez? Or does Howard just see a brighter future teaming with Deron Williams?

 

[Zeff]

More terrible news, Brandon Roy is retiring.

Not terrible news for the Blazers. Major cap relief.

This isn't even close to bad news for the Blazers.Roy cost a fortune, couldn't contribute (once the knees were gone), and forced them to scrabble to find enough minutes for Batum. Many Blazer problems solved all at once, here. Batum set for a mega-huge breakout year.

 

[Kiddnets]

Broussard who broke news of Howard's intentions, said the deal, as he understands it, would be Howard for Brook Lopez and two first round draft choices, presumably the Nets two picks in 2012: their own' first round pick and the Rockets lottery-protected pick obtained in the Terrence Williams trade a year ago. Whether other players would be included remains uncertain.

There has got to be more than this from the Nets, right?

 

[JMon348]

Wow Simmons article is a must read.

I'm more sad than angry now. The more and more I read about it from people who know more details and are smarter than me, the more I understand what a cluster f this really is.

Stern screwed up big time, this will cost him his legacy and probably his job.

 

[JMon348]

More terrible news, Brandon Roy is retiring.

Not terrible news for the Blazers. Major cap relief.

This isn't even close to bad news for the Blazers.Roy cost a fortune, couldn't contribute (once the knees were gone), and forced them to scrabble to find enough minutes for Batum. Many Blazer problems solved all at once, here. Batum set for a mega-huge breakout year.

Terrible news for NBA fans.

 

[Zeff]

More terrible news, Brandon Roy is retiring.

Not terrible news for the Blazers. Major cap relief.

This isn't even close to bad news for the Blazers.Roy cost a fortune, couldn't contribute (once the knees were gone), and forced them to scrabble to find enough minutes for Batum. Many Blazer problems solved all at once, here. Batum set for a mega-huge breakout year.

Terrible news for NBA fans.

I don't see it. You'd hate to lose the Roy of 2-3 years ago so suddenly. But the Roy of today offers nothing to people who are fans of the game. Just the reality of pro athletics, I guess.Confident "NBA fans" are going to love the new-look Blazers.(ETA: None of which is meant to diminish the amazing playoff performance from Roy still lurking in recent memory. But if you watched the team, it was obvious those moments were heading toward extinction anyway. And with this news, it's even more obvious that they sure weren't getting more frequent from here on out. Glad he left us with that one.)

 

[Abraham]

Jamison, shaq, Tim Thomas....

Please go back and look at James last three years in Cleveland and examine the pool of possible acquisitions. Let me know who else they should have signed.

 

[Kiddnets]

Wouldn't the Magic rather have Bynum than Lopez? Or does Howard just see a brighter future teaming with Deron Williams?

As a long suffering Net fan I'll believe this when it happens - just not used to superstars ASKING to come to the Nets! From what I have read - Dwill is very close to DH and they have been discussing playing together for a while - Nets are in a good position to make it happen with cap room, billionaire owner and new arena...they dont have the history of Lakers but they can carve out their own history....its not like the Nets are the Clips - they had a nice run only a few years ago. Ball is in Magic court but Broussard is reporting its close - lets say its true and DH only wants to play for the Nets - (after I wake up)....as a Magic fan would you rather take the deal of Lopez, 2 1sts and dumping Hedo or deal with the circus for a year and seriously risk getting nothing.....Nets have the cap room to just sign him next summer and who really cares about 1 more crappy season in Newark - they'll keep Lopez and have some good picks so I can live with either!

 

[Bobcat10]

Jamison, shaq, Tim Thomas....

Please go back and look at James last three years in Cleveland and examine the pool of possible acquisitions. Let me know who else they should have signed.

He might be at your TT reference...

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Broussard who broke news of Howard's intentions, said the deal, as he understands it, would be Howard for Brook Lopez and two first round draft choices, presumably the Nets two picks in 2012: their own' first round pick and the Rockets lottery-protected pick obtained in the Terrence Williams trade a year ago. Whether other players would be included remains uncertain.

There has got to be more than this from the Nets, right?

TO THE TRADE MACHINE!

Looks like New Jersey has the cap space to do this straight up. New Jersey really doesn't have much else that's palatable. Lots of crap there.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Big news of the day: Raptors acquire Pietrus for a 2nd round pick.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Wouldn't the Magic rather have Bynum than Lopez? Or does Howard just see a brighter future teaming with Deron Williams?

As a long suffering Net fan I'll believe this when it happens - just not used to superstars ASKING to come to the Nets! From what I have read - Dwill is very close to DH and they have been discussing playing together for a while - Nets are in a good position to make it happen with cap room, billionaire owner and new arena...they dont have the history of Lakers but they can carve out their own history....its not like the Nets are the Clips - they had a nice run only a few years ago. Ball is in Magic court but Broussard is reporting its close - lets say its true and DH only wants to play for the Nets - (after I wake up)....as a Magic fan would you rather take the deal of Lopez, 2 1sts and dumping Hedo or deal with the circus for a year and seriously risk getting nothing.....Nets have the cap room to just sign him next summer and who really cares about 1 more crappy season in Newark - they'll keep Lopez and have some good picks so I can live with either!

I think I'd do option B... at least until the trade deadline.

 

[the moops]

Jamison, shaq, Tim Thomas....

Please go back and look at James last three years in Cleveland and examine the pool of possible acquisitions. Let me know who else they should have signed.

He might be at your TT reference...

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Big news of the day: Raptors acquire Pietrus for a 2nd round pick.

 

[shader]

When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?

This is the best part of the letter. Hey Dan, if you don't want to be the Washington Generals, then don't act like them. When you're lucky enough to get one of the greatest players of all time in the draft, perhaps you should spend some money and surround him with a good supporting cast, rather than simply making as much as you can off him without improving the team, and then whining when he leaves. Guys like Gilbert are jealous of the Lakers because it's a big market team, but that's not the reason the Lakers have been successfull, otherwise the Knicks would have a ton of championship rings as well. The Lakers have been successful because they are smart, because they are willing to take gambles and spend money when they have to, unlike Dan Gilbert. And no matter how much guys like Gilbert try to devise new ways to equalize the NBA, it's never going to happen, because smart teams like the Lakers will always dominate over dumb teams like the Cavaliers.

exactly! the Cavs could have made a number of trades and free agent signings while he was there but chose to do nothing. they could have consulted Lebron on all of these moves. they could have coddled him and given all his buddies jobs and unfettered access to team amenities. they could have spent above the luxury tax even if it meant putting them in a cap bind should he leave. but noooooo, they did nothing. stupid cheapass Gilbert!

The cavs made a ton of of moves to help lebron. The fact that they didn't work out in the playoffs doesn't mean they didn't try.

Wrong

 

[Max Power]

Wouldn't the Magic rather have Bynum than Lopez? Or does Howard just see a brighter future teaming with Deron Williams?

As a long suffering Net fan I'll believe this when it happens - just not used to superstars ASKING to come to the Nets! From what I have read - Dwill is very close to DH and they have been discussing playing together for a while - Nets are in a good position to make it happen with cap room, billionaire owner and new arena...they dont have the history of Lakers but they can carve out their own history....its not like the Nets are the Clips - they had a nice run only a few years ago. Ball is in Magic court but Broussard is reporting its close - lets say its true and DH only wants to play for the Nets - (after I wake up)....as a Magic fan would you rather take the deal of Lopez, 2 1sts and dumping Hedo or deal with the circus for a year and seriously risk getting nothing.....Nets have the cap room to just sign him next summer and who really cares about 1 more crappy season in Newark - they'll keep Lopez and have some good picks so I can live with either!

I think I'd do option B... at least until the trade deadline.

I think the Bulls could offer a better package. Noah, Taj or Asik, Deng and even a bobcats first round pick which will be in the top half of the draft as opposed to getting two late firsts from the Nets.

 

[wadegarrett]

When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?

This is the best part of the letter. Hey Dan, if you don't want to be the Washington Generals, then don't act like them. When you're lucky enough to get one of the greatest players of all time in the draft, perhaps you should spend some money and surround him with a good supporting cast, rather than simply making as much as you can off him without improving the team, and then whining when he leaves. Guys like Gilbert are jealous of the Lakers because it's a big market team, but that's not the reason the Lakers have been successfull, otherwise the Knicks would have a ton of championship rings as well. The Lakers have been successful because they are smart, because they are willing to take gambles and spend money when they have to, unlike Dan Gilbert. And no matter how much guys like Gilbert try to devise new ways to equalize the NBA, it's never going to happen, because smart teams like the Lakers will always dominate over dumb teams like the Cavaliers.

exactly! the Cavs could have made a number of trades and free agent signings while he was there but chose to do nothing. they could have consulted Lebron on all of these moves. they could have coddled him and given all his buddies jobs and unfettered access to team amenities. they could have spent above the luxury tax even if it meant putting them in a cap bind should he leave. but noooooo, they did nothing. stupid cheapass Gilbert!

The cavs made a ton of of moves to help lebron. The fact that they didn't work out in the playoffs doesn't mean they didn't try.

Wrong

Wrong

 

[Kiddnets]

Wouldn't the Magic rather have Bynum than Lopez? Or does Howard just see a brighter future teaming with Deron Williams?

As a long suffering Net fan I'll believe this when it happens - just not used to superstars ASKING to come to the Nets! From what I have read - Dwill is very close to DH and they have been discussing playing together for a while - Nets are in a good position to make it happen with cap room, billionaire owner and new arena...they dont have the history of Lakers but they can carve out their own history....its not like the Nets are the Clips - they had a nice run only a few years ago. Ball is in Magic court but Broussard is reporting its close - lets say its true and DH only wants to play for the Nets - (after I wake up)....as a Magic fan would you rather take the deal of Lopez, 2 1sts and dumping Hedo or deal with the circus for a year and seriously risk getting nothing.....Nets have the cap room to just sign him next summer and who really cares about 1 more crappy season in Newark - they'll keep Lopez and have some good picks so I can live with either!

I think I'd do option B... at least until the trade deadline.

Option B - at deadline they would still probably get Lopez and picks but not able to dump Hedo if that matter muchWojo on WFAN and can not confirm Howard reports....

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Wouldn't the Magic rather have Bynum than Lopez? Or does Howard just see a brighter future teaming with Deron Williams?

As a long suffering Net fan I'll believe this when it happens - just not used to superstars ASKING to come to the Nets! From what I have read - Dwill is very close to DH and they have been discussing playing together for a while - Nets are in a good position to make it happen with cap room, billionaire owner and new arena...they dont have the history of Lakers but they can carve out their own history....its not like the Nets are the Clips - they had a nice run only a few years ago. Ball is in Magic court but Broussard is reporting its close - lets say its true and DH only wants to play for the Nets - (after I wake up)....as a Magic fan would you rather take the deal of Lopez, 2 1sts and dumping Hedo or deal with the circus for a year and seriously risk getting nothing.....Nets have the cap room to just sign him next summer and who really cares about 1 more crappy season in Newark - they'll keep Lopez and have some good picks so I can live with either!

I think I'd do option B... at least until the trade deadline.

Option B - at deadline they would still probably get Lopez and picks but not able to dump Hedo if that matter muchWojo on WFAN and can not confirm Howard reports....

So in your world the Nets are the only one making offers?

 

[Major]

P. Gasol

for

Scola

Martin

Dragic

Knick's #1

Wouldn't be so bad for Lakers if Houston is actually that nuts. Move Bynum and Odom for Howard.

Martin/Dragic

Kobe

Artest

Scola

Howard

Just saying what the hell are the Rockets thinking?

I don't know but being a Rockets fan I'm very happy for the ##### storm that ensued. The trade makes little sense for Houston. The saying goes "In Morey We Trust" but I'm a bit miffed about this one.

 

[Kiddnets]

Wouldn't the Magic rather have Bynum than Lopez? Or does Howard just see a brighter future teaming with Deron Williams?

As a long suffering Net fan I'll believe this when it happens - just not used to superstars ASKING to come to the Nets! From what I have read - Dwill is very close to DH and they have been discussing playing together for a while - Nets are in a good position to make it happen with cap room, billionaire owner and new arena...they dont have the history of Lakers but they can carve out their own history....its not like the Nets are the Clips - they had a nice run only a few years ago. Ball is in Magic court but Broussard is reporting its close - lets say its true and DH only wants to play for the Nets - (after I wake up)....as a Magic fan would you rather take the deal of Lopez, 2 1sts and dumping Hedo or deal with the circus for a year and seriously risk getting nothing.....Nets have the cap room to just sign him next summer and who really cares about 1 more crappy season in Newark - they'll keep Lopez and have some good picks so I can live with either!

I think I'd do option B... at least until the trade deadline.

I think the Bulls could offer a better package. Noah, Taj or Asik, Deng and even a bobcats first round pick which will be in the top half of the draft as opposed to getting two late firsts from the Nets.

Noah is better than Brook but not by a ton IMO - GS pick will likely be in top half of the draft....also Nets take Hedo salary where Bulls dump Deng's awful contract onto Magic....I still think Nets deal is better

 

[Kiddnets]

Wouldn't the Magic rather have Bynum than Lopez? Or does Howard just see a brighter future teaming with Deron Williams?

As a long suffering Net fan I'll believe this when it happens - just not used to superstars ASKING to come to the Nets! From what I have read - Dwill is very close to DH and they have been discussing playing together for a while - Nets are in a good position to make it happen with cap room, billionaire owner and new arena...they dont have the history of Lakers but they can carve out their own history....its not like the Nets are the Clips - they had a nice run only a few years ago. Ball is in Magic court but Broussard is reporting its close - lets say its true and DH only wants to play for the Nets - (after I wake up)....as a Magic fan would you rather take the deal of Lopez, 2 1sts and dumping Hedo or deal with the circus for a year and seriously risk getting nothing.....Nets have the cap room to just sign him next summer and who really cares about 1 more crappy season in Newark - they'll keep Lopez and have some good picks so I can live with either!

I think I'd do option B... at least until the trade deadline.

Option B - at deadline they would still probably get Lopez and picks but not able to dump Hedo if that matter muchWojo on WFAN and can not confirm Howard reports....

So in your world the Nets are the only one making offers?

In my scenario I said lets assume the rumor is true and Howard will only sign with the Nets...who is going to give a huge offer for a few month rental?

 

[Bobcat10]

Those knocking the Houston side of the failed deal...are you taking in account the likely frontcourt of Gasol AND Nene? Is the cupboard that bare after losing Martin, Scola, and Dragic (and Battier I suppose)? Just curious.

 

[Premier]

Wouldn't the Magic rather have Bynum than Lopez? Or does Howard just see a brighter future teaming with Deron Williams?

As a long suffering Net fan I'll believe this when it happens - just not used to superstars ASKING to come to the Nets! From what I have read - Dwill is very close to DH and they have been discussing playing together for a while - Nets are in a good position to make it happen with cap room, billionaire owner and new arena...they dont have the history of Lakers but they can carve out their own history....its not like the Nets are the Clips - they had a nice run only a few years ago. Ball is in Magic court but Broussard is reporting its close - lets say its true and DH only wants to play for the Nets - (after I wake up)....as a Magic fan would you rather take the deal of Lopez, 2 1sts and dumping Hedo or deal with the circus for a year and seriously risk getting nothing.....Nets have the cap room to just sign him next summer and who really cares about 1 more crappy season in Newark - they'll keep Lopez and have some good picks so I can live with either!

I think I'd do option B... at least until the trade deadline.

Option B - at deadline they would still probably get Lopez and picks but not able to dump Hedo if that matter muchWojo on WFAN and can not confirm Howard reports....

So in your world the Nets are the only one making offers?

In my scenario I said lets assume the rumor is true and Howard will only sign with the Nets...who is going to give a huge offer for a few month rental?

Well for starters, Chicago is an immediate title threat for this season if they add Dwight to Derrick Rose. And I would muuuuuch rather have Noah than Lopez.

 

[Zeff]

Reports already coming in that a Howard/Hedo for Bynum/Odom deal is close. Developing...

 

[Kiddnets]

Wouldn't the Magic rather have Bynum than Lopez? Or does Howard just see a brighter future teaming with Deron Williams?

As a long suffering Net fan I'll believe this when it happens - just not used to superstars ASKING to come to the Nets! From what I have read - Dwill is very close to DH and they have been discussing playing together for a while - Nets are in a good position to make it happen with cap room, billionaire owner and new arena...they dont have the history of Lakers but they can carve out their own history....its not like the Nets are the Clips - they had a nice run only a few years ago. Ball is in Magic court but Broussard is reporting its close - lets say its true and DH only wants to play for the Nets - (after I wake up)....as a Magic fan would you rather take the deal of Lopez, 2 1sts and dumping Hedo or deal with the circus for a year and seriously risk getting nothing.....Nets have the cap room to just sign him next summer and who really cares about 1 more crappy season in Newark - they'll keep Lopez and have some good picks so I can live with either!

I think I'd do option B... at least until the trade deadline.

Option B - at deadline they would still probably get Lopez and picks but not able to dump Hedo if that matter muchWojo on WFAN and can not confirm Howard reports....

So in your world the Nets are the only one making offers?

In my scenario I said lets assume the rumor is true and Howard will only sign with the Nets...who is going to give a huge offer for a few month rental?

Well for starters, Chicago is an immediate title threat for this season if they add Dwight to Derrick Rose. And I would muuuuuch rather have Noah than Lopez.

I agree that Noah is better than Lopez...but enough to make up for takling on Deng and not dumping Hedo? Also IF the story is true and Howard will only sign with the Nets there is no way Bulls send that deal without a guarantee extension.

 

[Courtjester]

As as Nuggets fan, I didn't like the CP3 trade, but now in hindsight, this was a bad, bad move by Stern. He needs to allow the trade and then promptly announce a "medical condition" that will be forcing him to retire. This year is going to be a cluster-you know-what for a bunch of teams.

I wish the fans would completely stay away from attending just the opening day game for every team to just show this league how much they have forgotten why the league is what it is. Unfortunately people will be like sheep, the seats will be filled and the fans will give the players a standing ovation right before every tip off of every opening day game and all will be forgotten.

 

[Joe Summer]

RIP Brandon Roy. His enthusiasm for the game was infectious and I loved watching him play.

 

[Abraham]

Those knocking the Houston side of the failed deal...are you taking in account the likely frontcourt of Gasol AND Nene? Is the cupboard that bare after losing Martin, Scola, and Dragic (and Battier I suppose)? Just curious.

Battier was traded last season. I was thinking about it and reading on clutch fans and it started to make some sense. Gasol comes via trade....get nene...Bring the euro over next year. That's three guys over 6'10 a year after starting chuck Hayes at center. Gamble that bud and Morris and lee and Williams can pair with Lowry in the backcourt and you have a team that is intersting and tall. Do I love it? No. But scola and Martin are players good enough to make us .500. We weren't going to win the west - much less a ring - with Kevin Martin as our best player. People quickly forget how good gasol is. Yes, Kobe and Phil had a lot to do with that. But outside of Howard and horford, is there another center with that kind of offensive game and experience? No. Now we have to try and salvage a relationship with our two best players, guys not good enough to win a lot.

 

[Gr00vus]

However this shakes out, I'm hoping it results in getting rid of Stern. What an annoying clown that guy is.

Although he's beyond clown now, probably moved into idiot savant territory.

 

[Bobcat10]

Those knocking the Houston side of the failed deal...are you taking in account the likely frontcourt of Gasol AND Nene? Is the cupboard that bare after losing Martin, Scola, and Dragic (and Battier I suppose)? Just curious.

Battier was traded last season. I was thinking about it and reading on clutch fans and it started to make some sense. Gasol comes via trade....get nene...Bring the euro over next year. That's three guys over 6'10 a year after starting chuck Hayes at center. Gamble that bud and Morris and lee and Williams can pair with Lowry in the backcourt and you have a team that is intersting and tall. Do I love it? No. But scola and Martin are players good enough to make us .500. We weren't going to win the west - much less a ring - with Kevin Martin as our best player. People quickly forget how good gasol is. Yes, Kobe and Phil had a lot to do with that. But outside of Howard and horford, is there another center with that kind of offensive game and experience? No. Now we have to try and salvage a relationship with our two best players, guys not good enough to win a lot.

Ya forgot about Battier to Grizz.Lowry/FlynnLee/TWillPatterson/BudingerGasol/HillNene/ThabeetOr something like that. 2s/3s are a mix and match. Might be able to bring in another FA as well. And you mention the Euro (Donatas right?). I'd take it.

 

[pollardsvision]

Reports already coming in that a Howard/Hedo for Bynum/Odom deal is close. Developing...

Now that would be a deal.Lakers would have a ton of money tied up for the next three years, but that's a much better team than they'd be left with in the CP3 trade.Very interested to see what happens. I just don't see how the CP3 decision won't be reversed. For the sake of the league's integrity, I hope it is. For the sake of myself as a non-Laker fan, I hope it is because I don't want to see Kobe/Pau/Howard teaming up.

 

[Abraham]

You left off Morris.

And I'm expecting huge things from the euro.

 

[Workhorse]

Reports already coming in that a Howard/Hedo for Bynum/Odom deal is close. Developing...

Good god, if that happens as a result of Stern's meddling, I'm done with the NBA.

 

[the moops]

Gasol/Bynum for Howard/Turkoglu

Magic flip Gasol for young pieces and draft picks.

 

[B-Deep]

Reports already coming in that a Howard/Hedo for Bynum/Odom deal is close. Developing...

Now that would be a deal.Lakers would have a ton of money tied up for the next three years, but that's a much better team than they'd be left with in the CP3 trade.Very interested to see what happens. I just don't see how the CP3 decision won't be reversed. For the sake of the league's integrity, I hope it is. For the sake of myself as a non-Laker fan, I hope it is because I don't want to see Kobe/Pau/Howard teaming up.

there's always the chance that Kobe sees paul, or paul and howard, as stealing his limelight and turns into the little ##### we always knew he wasthat would be my hope

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

You left off Morris.

And I'm expecting huge things from the euro.

Seems smart.

 

[pollardsvision]

Reports already coming in that a Howard/Hedo for Bynum/Odom deal is close. Developing...

Now that would be a deal.Lakers would have a ton of money tied up for the next three years, but that's a much better team than they'd be left with in the CP3 trade.Very interested to see what happens. I just don't see how the CP3 decision won't be reversed. For the sake of the league's integrity, I hope it is. For the sake of myself as a non-Laker fan, I hope it is because I don't want to see Kobe/Pau/Howard teaming up.

there's always the chance that Kobe sees paul, or paul and howard, as stealing his limelight and turns into the little ##### we always knew he wasthat would be my hope

I'm not a Laker fan, but I do like Kobe.That said, like many, I'd love to see a #### storm in LA. I could see Kobe having a much bigger problem with CP3. Howard would take the limelight, but he won't take the ball.CP3 to the Lakers just has all sorts of ways for it to be treat for Laker-haters.Kobe/CP3 trying to find a way to share the ball.The very real possibility of CP3 and his bum knee being an albatross of a contract in a couple of years. Stern might've stolen that possibility from us.

 

[B-Deep]

Reports already coming in that a Howard/Hedo for Bynum/Odom deal is close. Developing...

Now that would be a deal.Lakers would have a ton of money tied up for the next three years, but that's a much better team than they'd be left with in the CP3 trade.Very interested to see what happens. I just don't see how the CP3 decision won't be reversed. For the sake of the league's integrity, I hope it is. For the sake of myself as a non-Laker fan, I hope it is because I don't want to see Kobe/Pau/Howard teaming up.

there's always the chance that Kobe sees paul, or paul and howard, as stealing his limelight and turns into the little ##### we always knew he wasthat would be my hope

I'm not a Laker fan, but I do like Kobe.That said, like many, I'd love to see a #### storm in LA. I could see Kobe having a much bigger problem with CP3. Howard would take the limelight, but he won't take the ball.CP3 to the Lakers just has all sorts of ways for it to be treat for Laker-haters.Kobe/CP3 trying to find a way to share the ball.The very real possibility of CP3 and his bum knee being an albatross of a contract in a couple of years. Stern might've stolen that possibility from us.

I was a lifelong laker fan and I hate Kobei'd like nothing more than the lakers to build a good team and his cry baby status to cause issues, then they ship him out for the end of his career

 

[shadyridr]

Reports already coming in that a Howard/Hedo for Bynum/Odom deal is close. Developing...

Good god, if that happens as a result of Stern's meddling, I'm done with the NBA.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Reports already coming in that a Howard/Hedo for Bynum/Odom deal is close. Developing...

Now that would be a deal.Lakers would have a ton of money tied up for the next three years, but that's a much better team than they'd be left with in the CP3 trade.

Very interested to see what happens. I just don't see how the CP3 decision won't be reversed.

For the sake of the league's integrity, I hope it is. For the sake of myself as a non-Laker fan, I hope it is because I don't want to see Kobe/Pau/Howard teaming up.

there's always the chance that Kobe sees paul, or paul and howard, as stealing his limelight and turns into the little ##### we always knew he wasthat would be my hope

I'm not a Laker fan, but I do like Kobe.That said, like many, I'd love to see a #### storm in LA. I could see Kobe having a much bigger problem with CP3.

Howard would take the limelight, but he won't take the ball.

CP3 to the Lakers just has all sorts of ways for it to be treat for Laker-haters.

Kobe/CP3 trying to find a way to share the ball.

The very real possibility of CP3 and his bum knee being an albatross of a contract in a couple of years.

Stern might've stolen that possibility from us.

I gotta admit, the idea of seeing what happens when the best crunch time player in the league is put on the floor with the worst crunch time player in the league would have been intriguing.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Reports already coming in that a Howard/Hedo for Bynum/Odom deal is close. Developing...

Now that would be a deal.Lakers would have a ton of money tied up for the next three years, but that's a much better team than they'd be left with in the CP3 trade.Very interested to see what happens. I just don't see how the CP3 decision won't be reversed. For the sake of the league's integrity, I hope it is. For the sake of myself as a non-Laker fan, I hope it is because I don't want to see Kobe/Pau/Howard teaming up.

there's always the chance that Kobe sees paul, or paul and howard, as stealing his limelight and turns into the little ##### we always knew he wasthat would be my hope

I'm not a Laker fan, but I do like Kobe.That said, like many, I'd love to see a #### storm in LA. I could see Kobe having a much bigger problem with CP3. Howard would take the limelight, but he won't take the ball.CP3 to the Lakers just has all sorts of ways for it to be treat for Laker-haters.Kobe/CP3 trying to find a way to share the ball.The very real possibility of CP3 and his bum knee being an albatross of a contract in a couple of years. Stern might've stolen that possibility from us.

With how sensitive Odom and Gasol are I'm sure this is going to be enough of a ####show. Poor Lamar feels unwanted now!

 

[Abraham]

Gasol/Bynum for Howard/TurkogluMagic flip Gasol for young pieces and draft picks.

Send him to Houston for bud, scola, and two firsts.

 

[Tom Hagen]

Big news of the day: Raptors acquire Pietrus for a 2nd round pick.

Are we sure that Stern and Gilbert are going to approve it?

 

[the moops]

Big news of the day: Raptors acquire Pietrus for a 2nd round pick.

Are we sure that Stern and Gilbert are going to approve it?

This joke is already old

 

[Gr00vus]

I know this is a short-term PR disaster, but it's easily worth it for the laughs at the expense of Lakers fans.

I am quite sure they would be laughing like the rest of the world if this happened to the Heat or the Celtics or the Knicks.

Actually, I think it's a bad deal for the Lakers, so I'm hoping it doesn't go through. I have no idea how you put the pieces back together with all the players (besides Paul) who were getting shipped out though, so I'm not happy about that or the sophomoric way the league is being "run."

 

[NewlyRetired]

I hate that the NBA did this. Smells bad from so many angles. The title of this thread could not be more wrong. This does nothing to "save the league", it only makes it worse now as a fan.

Imagine working for the Hornets right now? You work your ### off to get a better deal than pretty much any of the 600 proposed deals we have read about, only to have it nixed.

I also don't buy that this would have made the Lakers some sort of Super team. If they some how retained Gsol, then I could see concern but IMO the Lakers gave up more to get Paul than the Celts gave up to get Garnett.

Not that the deal was going to make the Hornets title contenders but it was likely the best they were going to do with a bad situation. If I was a fan of that team I would be incredibly upset right now.