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Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Guy post one time and then highlights himself, I love this guy.
pollardsvision
Footballguy
Are we all in agreement that Rondo's the 2nd best PG on the planet right now?
wilked
Footballguy
Responsible for at least the nicest 3 passes in this game...maybe more
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Rondo to Garnett, thing of beauty there
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
He's elevated to another level that I did not know existed previously prior to this series, amazing stuff.
Moe.
Footballguy
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Straight up for Bynum sounds about right.
pollardsvision
Footballguy
OK. Just checking.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
No one was expecting this. Everyone thought the Celtics would roll over tonight and regroup for game 6 but that has clearly not been the case.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Is there a reason Bosh is not coming back in the game?
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
Nice lively Heat crowd tonight.
Britney Spears
guest speaker
I'm very interested in the leadership aspect for the Heat.
Most teams that have multiple stars have a clear cut "Kingpin" player (Jordan/Bird/Magic/Duncan even Rose/Kobe/Paul in today's NBA). This is the player the coach must tailor communication and management to. Teams that don't have this clear hierarchy seem to be tenuous. Examples: Shaqobe Lakers, NY Knicks of this year and the Heat as probably the most extreme scenario.
I think it does some very interesting things to the team dynamic. If there is one face of the team all the role players know who is the guy. The coach gets the star to buy in, and the rest is downhill. The mentality of the role players is to get behind that one guy who will take the glory, but also the blame.
Usually there are two types of role players on a team. Ones who follow the coach, and ones who follow the best of their peers.
With the Heat, you clearly have two guys who hold so much weight, they really can control the team. The coach has two (maybe 3) guys he has to get to create a united front. It seems frankly like a losing proposition.
It also puts the role players in a spot where they are not sure who to follow. If you're the type of guy who takes leadership from a peer, who is that guy? The best player or the guy who has traditionally held the leadership role for the franchise?
I am discounting Bosh because I think he's clearly taken a supporting role and sacrificed his spot as the face of the team. Wade clearly has not and it can be argued he shouldn't. There are times he's terrible, but he has stretches of absolute brilliance. It seems at times to me that LeBron is willing to let Wade have that role, while his play clearly indicates he should be the face of a team.
Anyways, this is nothing new, just very intriguing to me for some reason. From a talent standpoint, I would trade Wade for a better fit. The previous example of Harden would be perfect. But he was the original star and that could be a disaster for the players who view him as the loyal soldier.
Most teams that have multiple stars have a clear cut "Kingpin" player (Jordan/Bird/Magic/Duncan even Rose/Kobe/Paul in today's NBA). This is the player the coach must tailor communication and management to. Teams that don't have this clear hierarchy seem to be tenuous. Examples: Shaqobe Lakers, NY Knicks of this year and the Heat as probably the most extreme scenario.
I think it does some very interesting things to the team dynamic. If there is one face of the team all the role players know who is the guy. The coach gets the star to buy in, and the rest is downhill. The mentality of the role players is to get behind that one guy who will take the glory, but also the blame.
Usually there are two types of role players on a team. Ones who follow the coach, and ones who follow the best of their peers.
With the Heat, you clearly have two guys who hold so much weight, they really can control the team. The coach has two (maybe 3) guys he has to get to create a united front. It seems frankly like a losing proposition.
It also puts the role players in a spot where they are not sure who to follow. If you're the type of guy who takes leadership from a peer, who is that guy? The best player or the guy who has traditionally held the leadership role for the franchise?
I am discounting Bosh because I think he's clearly taken a supporting role and sacrificed his spot as the face of the team. Wade clearly has not and it can be argued he shouldn't. There are times he's terrible, but he has stretches of absolute brilliance. It seems at times to me that LeBron is willing to let Wade have that role, while his play clearly indicates he should be the face of a team.
Anyways, this is nothing new, just very intriguing to me for some reason. From a talent standpoint, I would trade Wade for a better fit. The previous example of Harden would be perfect. But he was the original star and that could be a disaster for the players who view him as the loyal soldier.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I think that's exactly what Kevin said.
bostonfred
Footballguy
Pietrus with some humongous plays
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
Nice recovery from a frantic situation by Boston.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Ridiculous shot by Wade
this is good stuff
Britney Spears
guest speaker
Boston's FT shooting is such an advantage here.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Yep, Miami fans are the rock bottom barrel buddy.
tommyGunZ
Footballguy
I've got him ~ 6th. CP3DRoseWestbrookDWilliamsKyrie Rondo
wilked
Footballguy
bostonfred
Footballguy
wow no movement away from the ball whatsoever, and pierce just dribbles and nails the three.
flapgreen
Footballguy
They have better things to do after the game.
timschochet
Footballguy
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
booyakashah!
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Britney Spears
guest speaker
That was nasty.
timschochet
Footballguy
If the Celts win this series, does Spoelstra get canned?
HellToupee
Footballguy
fearless
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