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Interesting comment by the Raps announcer. 18 seconds left, tie game, Heat ball. He says foul'em, and take your chances they miss a free throw. If not, you still have plenty of time to run a play and get a 3 or play for a quick 2. His reasoning being that the Heat are clearly the superior team and you don't want to go to overtime with them. I like the idea. Raptors probably win 1 or 2 in 10 vs the Heat in OT. Take the chance to give yourself the final shot to win the game. If they miss a free throw, you're probably going to win the game about 40% of the time. If they make both, probably about 30% of the time. Better odds than the Raptor beating the Heat in OT. I doubt any coach would have the balls to try it though.
Psychological issue here. Your team has just played 4 quarters and held their own, and the score is tied. Their confidence has to be high. By making this choice, you as the coach are essentially telling them that you don't have confidence in them, that you think they are a weaker team. The long term consequences of this could be very dangerous for the psyche of the team. I'd never do it.
 
By making this choice, you as the coach are essentially telling them that you don't have confidence in them, that you think they are a weaker team. The long term consequences of this could be very dangerous for the psyche of the team. I'd never do it.
Everyone knows that the heat are a better team. These are grown men playing on a ####ty basketball team. They are under no illusions that they and their 15-26 record are better than the Heat.You are so ####### melodramatic.
 
By making this choice, you as the coach are essentially telling them that you don't have confidence in them, that you think they are a weaker team. The long term consequences of this could be very dangerous for the psyche of the team. I'd never do it.
Everyone knows that the heat are a better team. These are grown men playing on a ####ty basketball team. They are under no illusions that they and their 15-26 record are better than the Heat.You are so ####### melodramatic.
I know.
 
Interesting comment by the Raps announcer. 18 seconds left, tie game, Heat ball. He says foul'em, and take your chances they miss a free throw. If not, you still have plenty of time to run a play and get a 3 or play for a quick 2. His reasoning being that the Heat are clearly the superior team and you don't want to go to overtime with them. I like the idea. Raptors probably win 1 or 2 in 10 vs the Heat in OT. Take the chance to give yourself the final shot to win the game. If they miss a free throw, you're probably going to win the game about 40% of the time. If they make both, probably about 30% of the time. Better odds than the Raptor beating the Heat in OT. I doubt any coach would have the balls to try it though.
1-2 out of 10 is way too low for a 5 minute period, esp. at home. If Miami's favored by 10 over a 48 minute stretch, what would they be favored by over a 5 minute stretch? Miami -1?Also, you have to foul the ball. Which means you're probably fouling a good/decent FT shooter. And if you get a rebound, you can call a quick TO and advance the ball and get a last-gasp shot. I dunno, I just play it straight up and hope for the best.
 
Interesting comment by the Raps announcer. 18 seconds left, tie game, Heat ball. He says foul'em, and take your chances they miss a free throw. If not, you still have plenty of time to run a play and get a 3 or play for a quick 2. His reasoning being that the Heat are clearly the superior team and you don't want to go to overtime with them. I like the idea. Raptors probably win 1 or 2 in 10 vs the Heat in OT. Take the chance to give yourself the final shot to win the game. If they miss a free throw, you're probably going to win the game about 40% of the time. If they make both, probably about 30% of the time. Better odds than the Raptor beating the Heat in OT. I doubt any coach would have the balls to try it though.
Psychological issue here. Your team has just played 4 quarters and held their own, and the score is tied. Their confidence has to be high. By making this choice, you as the coach are essentially telling them that you don't have confidence in them, that you think they are a weaker team. The long term consequences of this could be very dangerous for the psyche of the team. I'd never do it.
If you want to look at it as a pessimist, sure. Or you look at it as the coach has the confidence in his team to make a game winning bucket.Toronto had also blown a big lead (16 I think?) tonight and have been terrible in OT/close games this year. And really, you don't think every single player on Toronto knows the Heat are the better team? They're the defending champs and have the best player in the game. These aren't kids out there. They're men who are used to being ripped apart by coaches, teammates, fans, media etc. Pretty sure their 'psyche' can handle it.
 
Season changing overtime victory tonight for the Heat over the Toronto Raptors who pushed it all the way to overtime with their inexperienced and overmatched team yet went toe to toe with the defending NBA Champions who clawed and scratched their way with an inferior team allowing over 100+ again as their defense was nowhere to be found but the Heat able to avoid another collapse at home and fend off the Raptors to stay afloat the Eastern Conference for now. Way to play Miami!!!

 
Season changing overtime victory tonight for the Heat over the Toronto Raptors who pushed it all the way to overtime with their inexperienced and overmatched team yet went toe to toe with the defending NBA Champions who clawed and scratched their way with an inferior team allowing over 100+ again as their defense was nowhere to be found but the Heat able to avoid another collapse at home and fend off the Raptors to stay afloat the Eastern Conference for now. Way to play Miami!!!
Is punctuation a post-grad course at the U?
 
Limited instance in which it might work: The ball gets in the hands of a Dwight Howard/Andre Drummond-type FT shooter. But that's going to be rare in a last-possession scenario. Or a mediocre-but-not-brutal FT shooter, and they're shooting 1-and-1. If you can get their expectation for the possession under 1.0, I think it's a strong play. But fouling LeBron or Wade or Chalmers doesn't get you anywhere close.

 
Interesting comment by the Raps announcer. 18 seconds left, tie game, Heat ball. He says foul'em, and take your chances they miss a free throw. If not, you still have plenty of time to run a play and get a 3 or play for a quick 2. His reasoning being that the Heat are clearly the superior team and you don't want to go to overtime with them. I like the idea. Raptors probably win 1 or 2 in 10 vs the Heat in OT. Take the chance to give yourself the final shot to win the game. If they miss a free throw, you're probably going to win the game about 40% of the time. If they make both, probably about 30% of the time. Better odds than the Raptor beating the Heat in OT. I doubt any coach would have the balls to try it though.
1-2 out of 10 is way too low for a 5 minute period, esp. at home. If Miami's favored by 10 over a 48 minute stretch, what would they be favored by over a 5 minute stretch? Miami -1?Also, you have to foul the ball. Which means you're probably fouling a good/decent FT shooter. And if you get a rebound, you can call a quick TO and advance the ball and get a last-gasp shot. I dunno, I just play it straight up and hope for the best.
I'm not sure you can use the game line. The Heat are going to be using their best lineup for all 5 minutes of OT. 18 seconds left and the Heat aren't expecting the foul. Foul who ever catches, most likely LeBron/Wade/Chalmers; all between 70-75%. You'll have 17 seconds left to run a play. A little over 25% of the time a 2 give you the lead/win.
 
Season changing overtime victory tonight for the Heat over the Toronto Raptors who pushed it all the way to overtime with their inexperienced and overmatched team yet went toe to toe with the defending NBA Champions who clawed and scratched their way with an inferior team allowing over 100+ again as their defense was nowhere to be found but the Heat able to avoid another collapse at home and fend off the Raptors to stay afloat the Eastern Conference for now. Way to play Miami!!!
Is punctuation a post-grad course at the U?
Minimal Doctorate just to apply.
 
Interesting comment by the Raps announcer. 18 seconds left, tie game, Heat ball. He says foul'em, and take your chances they miss a free throw. If not, you still have plenty of time to run a play and get a 3 or play for a quick 2. His reasoning being that the Heat are clearly the superior team and you don't want to go to overtime with them. I like the idea. Raptors probably win 1 or 2 in 10 vs the Heat in OT. Take the chance to give yourself the final shot to win the game. If they miss a free throw, you're probably going to win the game about 40% of the time. If they make both, probably about 30% of the time. Better odds than the Raptor beating the Heat in OT. I doubt any coach would have the balls to try it though.
1-2 out of 10 is way too low for a 5 minute period, esp. at home. If Miami's favored by 10 over a 48 minute stretch, what would they be favored by over a 5 minute stretch? Miami -1?Also, you have to foul the ball. Which means you're probably fouling a good/decent FT shooter. And if you get a rebound, you can call a quick TO and advance the ball and get a last-gasp shot. I dunno, I just play it straight up and hope for the best.
I'm not sure you can use the game line. The Heat are going to be using their best lineup for all 5 minutes of OT. 18 seconds left and the Heat aren't expecting the foul. Foul who ever catches, most likely LeBron/Wade/Chalmers; all between 70-75%. You'll have 17 seconds left to run a play. A little over 25% of the time a 2 give you the lead/win.
So will the Raptors, of course. Does taking each team's respective second units out of the picture really improve Miami's chances that much? Maybe bump them up to -1.5? Still not AS big of a favorite over 5 minutes. And with an emboldened home crowd! (Maybe that helps a little)70-75% FT shooting is a 1.4 - 1.5 points expectation for the possession. That's real high, even compared to Miami's robust 1.1 ppp. If you foul when they're in the single bonus...it gets close. 25% of the time you get the ball tied, 56% of the time you're down 2, 19-ish% you're down 1, assuming a 75% FT shooter. That's north of 1.1, but not as much.
 
Interesting comment by the Raps announcer. 18 seconds left, tie game, Heat ball. He says foul'em, and take your chances they miss a free throw. If not, you still have plenty of time to run a play and get a 3 or play for a quick 2. His reasoning being that the Heat are clearly the superior team and you don't want to go to overtime with them. I like the idea. Raptors probably win 1 or 2 in 10 vs the Heat in OT. Take the chance to give yourself the final shot to win the game. If they miss a free throw, you're probably going to win the game about 40% of the time. If they make both, probably about 30% of the time. Better odds than the Raptor beating the Heat in OT. I doubt any coach would have the balls to try it though.
I think its an interesting question but your percentages feel way off. You are making an assumption that if the Heat miss 1 or the Raptors make a 3 that the Heat dont get the ball back, so the quality of shot will be much lower than if they run a normal offense and leave like 5 seconds left. I think 40% is way too high if you want a buzzer beater shot (which you HAVE to do in this case because you dont want Miami having the ball last since you are fouling with 18 seconds). The 30%number on if Miami hits both is absurd. League average for 3's is around 30-35% i believe, but in the waning seconds of a 1 possession game i would bet it falls well below 30% since the defense is prepared for a 3 pointer. Too many variables to do this, you just have to hope the Heat miss the last shot. One thing you didnt mention that could help your cause is the Heats chances of winning in regulation and if they miss than add in the Raptors OT chances (which you estimated at 20%) Like Baseball has win probabilities, I am sure there is a basketball win Probabilities somewhere analyzing what the proper play really is.
 
Interesting comment by the Raps announcer. 18 seconds left, tie game, Heat ball. He says foul'em, and take your chances they miss a free throw. If not, you still have plenty of time to run a play and get a 3 or play for a quick 2. His reasoning being that the Heat are clearly the superior team and you don't want to go to overtime with them.

I like the idea. Raptors probably win 1 or 2 in 10 vs the Heat in OT. Take the chance to give yourself the final shot to win the game. If they miss a free throw, you're probably going to win the game about 40% of the time. If they make both, probably about 30% of the time. Better odds than the Raptor beating the Heat in OT.

I doubt any coach would have the balls to try it though.
1-2 out of 10 is way too low for a 5 minute period, esp. at home. If Miami's favored by 10 over a 48 minute stretch, what would they be favored by over a 5 minute stretch? Miami -1?Also, you have to foul the ball. Which means you're probably fouling a good/decent FT shooter.

And if you get a rebound, you can call a quick TO and advance the ball and get a last-gasp shot. I dunno, I just play it straight up and hope for the best.
I'm not sure you can use the game line. The Heat are going to be using their best lineup for all 5 minutes of OT. 18 seconds left and the Heat aren't expecting the foul. Foul who ever catches, most likely LeBron/Wade/Chalmers; all between 70-75%. You'll have 17 seconds left to run a play. A little over 25% of the time a 2 give you the lead/win.
So will the Raptors, of course. Does taking each team's respective second units out of the picture really improve Miami's chances that much? Maybe bump them up to -1.5? Still not AS big of a favorite over 5 minutes. And with an emboldened home crowd! (Maybe that helps a little)70-75% FT shooting is a 1.4 - 1.5 points expectation for the possession. That's real high, even compared to Miami's robust 1.1 ppp. If you foul when they're in the single bonus...it gets close. 25% of the time you get the ball tied, 56% of the time you're down 2, 19-ish% you're down 1, assuming a 75% FT shooter. That's north of 1.1, but not as much.
NBA has a bonus now? When did that happen?
 
Interesting comment by the Raps announcer. 18 seconds left, tie game, Heat ball. He says foul'em, and take your chances they miss a free throw. If not, you still have plenty of time to run a play and get a 3 or play for a quick 2. His reasoning being that the Heat are clearly the superior team and you don't want to go to overtime with them.

I like the idea. Raptors probably win 1 or 2 in 10 vs the Heat in OT. Take the chance to give yourself the final shot to win the game. If they miss a free throw, you're probably going to win the game about 40% of the time. If they make both, probably about 30% of the time. Better odds than the Raptor beating the Heat in OT.

I doubt any coach would have the balls to try it though.
1-2 out of 10 is way too low for a 5 minute period, esp. at home. If Miami's favored by 10 over a 48 minute stretch, what would they be favored by over a 5 minute stretch? Miami -1?Also, you have to foul the ball. Which means you're probably fouling a good/decent FT shooter.

And if you get a rebound, you can call a quick TO and advance the ball and get a last-gasp shot. I dunno, I just play it straight up and hope for the best.
I'm not sure you can use the game line. The Heat are going to be using their best lineup for all 5 minutes of OT. 18 seconds left and the Heat aren't expecting the foul. Foul who ever catches, most likely LeBron/Wade/Chalmers; all between 70-75%. You'll have 17 seconds left to run a play. A little over 25% of the time a 2 give you the lead/win.
So will the Raptors, of course. Does taking each team's respective second units out of the picture really improve Miami's chances that much? Maybe bump them up to -1.5? Still not AS big of a favorite over 5 minutes. And with an emboldened home crowd! (Maybe that helps a little)70-75% FT shooting is a 1.4 - 1.5 points expectation for the possession. That's real high, even compared to Miami's robust 1.1 ppp. If you foul when they're in the single bonus...it gets close. 25% of the time you get the ball tied, 56% of the time you're down 2, 19-ish% you're down 1, assuming a 75% FT shooter. That's north of 1.1, but not as much.
NBA has a bonus now? When did that happen?
:bag: Sorry, I'm thinking NCAA for an NBA issue.

 
Interesting comment by the Raps announcer. 18 seconds left, tie game, Heat ball. He says foul'em, and take your chances they miss a free throw. If not, you still have plenty of time to run a play and get a 3 or play for a quick 2. His reasoning being that the Heat are clearly the superior team and you don't want to go to overtime with them.

I like the idea. Raptors probably win 1 or 2 in 10 vs the Heat in OT. Take the chance to give yourself the final shot to win the game. If they miss a free throw, you're probably going to win the game about 40% of the time. If they make both, probably about 30% of the time. Better odds than the Raptor beating the Heat in OT.

I doubt any coach would have the balls to try it though.
I think its an interesting question but your percentages feel way off. You are making an assumption that if the Heat miss 1 or the Raptors make a 3 that the Heat dont get the ball back, so the quality of shot will be much lower than if they run a normal offense and leave like 5 seconds left. I think 40% is way too high if you want a buzzer beater shot (which you HAVE to do in this case because you dont want Miami having the ball last since you are fouling with 18 seconds). The 30%number on if Miami hits both is absurd. League average for 3's is around 30-35% i believe, but in the waning seconds of a 1 possession game i would bet it falls well below 30% since the defense is prepared for a 3 pointer. Too many variables to do this, you just have to hope the Heat miss the last shot. One thing you didnt mention that could help your cause is the Heats chances of winning in regulation and if they miss than add in the Raptors OT chances (which you estimated at 20%) Like Baseball has win probabilities, I am sure there is a basketball win Probabilities somewhere analyzing what the proper play really is.
The 30% number was to hit a 3 if Miami makes both free throws. Yes, there are a ton of variables. Even if you make a go ahead shot with .5 seconds left you could still lose. The point is to take your chances in regulation instead of vs a superior team in OT.

 
I've heard the old "foul them and get the ball back!" strategy before and don't subscribe to it. For starters, even if Miami is usually a better team than Toronto, on this night they are playing close to even. Secondly, what are you telling your team when you say "we are going with a strategy to avoid playing five more minutes against these guys". I think the broadcasters comments are interesting and worth discussing, but the Toronto fans would have gone nuts if they had done it and hadn't won and the coach said in the presser "well, we didn't want to go to overtime".

 
Interesting comment by the Raps announcer. 18 seconds left, tie game, Heat ball. He says foul'em, and take your chances they miss a free throw. If not, you still have plenty of time to run a play and get a 3 or play for a quick 2. His reasoning being that the Heat are clearly the superior team and you don't want to go to overtime with them. I like the idea. Raptors probably win 1 or 2 in 10 vs the Heat in OT. Take the chance to give yourself the final shot to win the game. If they miss a free throw, you're probably going to win the game about 40% of the time. If they make both, probably about 30% of the time. Better odds than the Raptor beating the Heat in OT. I doubt any coach would have the balls to try it though.
1-2 out of 10 is way too low for a 5 minute period, esp. at home. If Miami's favored by 10 over a 48 minute stretch, what would they be favored by over a 5 minute stretch? Miami -1?Also, you have to foul the ball. Which means you're probably fouling a good/decent FT shooter. And if you get a rebound, you can call a quick TO and advance the ball and get a last-gasp shot. I dunno, I just play it straight up and hope for the best.
I'm not sure you can use the game line. The Heat are going to be using their best lineup for all 5 minutes of OT. 18 seconds left and the Heat aren't expecting the foul. Foul who ever catches, most likely LeBron/Wade/Chalmers; all between 70-75%. You'll have 17 seconds left to run a play. A little over 25% of the time a 2 give you the lead/win.
So will the Raptors, of course. Does taking each team's respective second units out of the picture really improve Miami's chances that much? Maybe bump them up to -1.5? Still not AS big of a favorite over 5 minutes. And with an emboldened home crowd! (Maybe that helps a little)70-75% FT shooting is a 1.4 - 1.5 points expectation for the possession. That's real high, even compared to Miami's robust 1.1 ppp. If you foul when they're in the single bonus...it gets close. 25% of the time you get the ball tied, 56% of the time you're down 2, 19-ish% you're down 1, assuming a 75% FT shooter. That's north of 1.1, but not as much.
Toronto's bench averages almost 10 points more per game than Miami's. I'd think the line would be closer to 2.5-3. But I still don't think we need to worry about the line. Heat in OT is going to be 5 minutes of LeBron and Wade dominating the ball and not taking possessions off like they (and every player) does throughout the game. We'd have to get timscochet in here to quantify how much the home crowd would effect each teams psyche.
 
I've heard the old "foul them and get the ball back!" strategy before and don't subscribe to it. For starters, even if Miami is usually a better team than Toronto, on this night they are playing close to even. Secondly, what are you telling your team when you say "we are going with a strategy to avoid playing five more minutes against these guys". I think the broadcasters comments are interesting and worth discussing, but the Toronto fans would have gone nuts if they had done it and hadn't won and the coach said in the presser "well, we didn't want to go to overtime".
First time I heard about the 'theory' was in '08 Olympics. Apparently it happens a fair bit in Europe as teams want the chance to win the game.You're telling your team that you're going to employ a strategy to try and win the game. Same thing with an NFL coach going for it on 4th down. Is he saying he doesn't trust his defense or is he saying he thinks that is the best strategy to win the game? And Toronto fans would go nuts either way. Lets not worry about what they think.
 
We'd have to get timscochet in here to quantify how much the home crowd would effect each teams psyche.
Everybody's giving me crap for mentioning psyche, but I hold it's important. These guys may technically be adults, and professionals, but they sure as Hell don't act like it. They behave like emotional, pouty little children, and sometimes even the smallest of slights can affect their games for weeks or the entire season.
 
Another thing that hasn't been said is that the Heat win the game in regulation at pretty close to 40-45% of the time on the last shot. LeBron got a very good look.

 
We'd have to get timscochet in here to quantify how much the home crowd would effect each teams psyche.
Everybody's giving me crap for mentioning psyche, but I hold it's important. These guys may technically be adults, and professionals, but they sure as Hell don't act like it. They behave like emotional, pouty little children, and sometimes even the smallest of slights can affect their games for weeks or the entire season.
A single play isn't going to do that. A long systematic destruction of a player, like Kobe and the LA media has done to Pau, I could agree with.
 
The lakers are an old slow team with ####ty perimeter defenders and the best center in the league. Yet they are "playing" as if they are some team with a top wing player that can run you off the court. Kobe saying he is passing up shots to get Howard the ball is bs. Kobe shoots so damn much that Howard rightfully expects that Kobe will shoot and not pass when he has the ball, causing errant passes and turnovers. Howard needs to be the focus at least the first 3 quarters. Get him space down low. Have pau at the top if the key. Have Nash run the O. This isn't complicated. It's stubbornness.
Jeebus, just give it up. I know a girl (who went to a big time college playing basketball) that can talk better basketball than you.
I have a 3 year old nephew with a nerf hoop that makes more sense than anything you've posted the last few weeks. You're currently the unanimous pick for worst poster in this thread. You're so bad, in fact, that people are clamorring for jmon. Jmon, an infantile Kobe worshipper capable of only irrational thought. The people prefer that to your nonsensical ramblings.
Thanks a lot. She still can shake you outta your laces, and is way stronger. She is just a inch short or two of Lisa Leslie (who I've met and talked to), and can pwn you anyday of the week and in the leap year. Lulz, you got mad because a girl can beat you.
I'm your huckleberry.
 
We'd have to get timscochet in here to quantify how much the home crowd would effect each teams psyche.
Everybody's giving me crap for mentioning psyche, but I hold it's important. These guys may technically be adults, and professionals, but they sure as Hell don't act like it. They behave like emotional, pouty little children, and sometimes even the smallest of slights can affect their games for weeks or the entire season.
If Jose Calderon has to play 5 more minutes, will he be:a) :)b) :© :unsure:
 
Dwight Howard can't even look at a reporter when being asked about the team meeting? That dude wants out. This injury may allow the Lakers to start Pau at C, win some games, and feel better about trading Howard.

 
Anyone want to make last minute All-Star reserve predictions?I'm really hoping Noah makes it.
I can't imagine how he wouldn't. He's been the best player on the East's 4th best team. RE: Houston - another terrible loss last night. The 3 and 4 spots are killing them in the last month. Early on you could count on 2 of Parsons, Delfino, Morris and Patterson putting up a good game. Now they are getting a good game from MAYBE one of them at a time. The Centers are putting up 16 and 16 and Harden is doing his job just fine. But with Lin/Beverly/Douglas (who has fallen out of the rotation) struggling these Rockets look like the Rockets of old - getting regular production from two players instead of three or four.
 
Anyone want to make last minute All-Star reserve predictions?I'm really hoping Noah makes it.
East: The Guarantee guys who make it: Irving, Lopez, BoshThen the rest of the team will be a mix of George, Pierce, Holliday, Noah, Chandler, Boozer and Josh Smith. My guesses are George, Holliday, Boozer and Smith make it. In the west:Guarantees are Harden, Westbrook, Duncan the rest will be from Curry, Lee, Parker, Zbo, Marc Gasol, Aldridge. I think Curry, Parker, Lee and Aldridge make it.
 
Would there be any takers for Nash out there?
Doesn't he have two years left on the deal? That would be a tough one.:Fires-up-Scola/Martin-Trade-Machine:Cousins and Nash to BostonRondo, Hayes, and Salmons to LALGasol to SacramentoORNash and Gay to BostonRondo, Jeff Green, and Darrell Arthur to LALGasol and Courtney Lee to Memphis
 
Would there be any takers for Nash out there?
Doesn't he have two years left on the deal? That would be a tough one.:Fires-up-Scola/Martin-Trade-Machine:Cousins and Nash to BostonRondo, Hayes, and Salmons to LALGasol to SacramentoORNash and Gay to BostonRondo, Jeff Green, and Darrell Arthur to LALGasol and Courtney Lee to Memphis
As a Laker fan I'd take any of those deals, though I wonder how Kobe and Rondo would work. Nash's deal is looking more idiotic by the second.
 
Would there be any takers for Nash out there?
Doesn't he have two years left on the deal? That would be a tough one.:Fires-up-Scola/Martin-Trade-Machine:Cousins and Nash to BostonRondo, Hayes, and Salmons to LALGasol to SacramentoORNash and Gay to BostonRondo, Jeff Green, and Darrell Arthur to LALGasol and Courtney Lee to Memphis
I'd love to get Rondo. But I can't see the Kings trading Cousins for Gasol, and I can't see Boston trading Rondo and Green for Nash and Gay. To tell the truth, I don't think Nash has any value, and not sure Gasol has much either at this point. The Lakers are screwed.
 
Well, Pierce and Garnett only have a couple years of good play left. And I think the idea that a contender can be built around Rondo is getting harder and harder to prove.Can a starting five of Nash, Gay, Pierce, Garnett, and whatever contend in the east for the next two years? I think probably as well or better than now. PLus they would have a TON of cap room in three years when a guy like Love (IIRC) is eligible, among others.Lakers get younger and get out of the Nash mess.Memphis gets the Gasols together, which needs to happen.

 
Well, Pierce and Garnett only have a couple years of good play left. And I think the idea that a contender can be built around Rondo is getting harder and harder to prove.

Can a starting five of Nash, Gay, Pierce, Garnett, and whatever contend in the east for the next two years? I think probably as well or better than now. PLus they would have a TON of cap room in three years when a guy like Love (IIRC) is eligible, among others.

Lakers get younger and get out of the Nash mess.

Memphis gets the Gasols together, which needs to happen.
What happens to Randolph?
 
Would there be any takers for Nash out there?
Doesn't he have two years left on the deal? That would be a tough one.:Fires-up-Scola/Martin-Trade-Machine:Cousins and Nash to BostonRondo, Hayes, and Salmons to LALGasol to SacramentoORNash and Gay to BostonRondo, Jeff Green, and Darrell Arthur to LALGasol and Courtney Lee to Memphis
First one: No way Sacramento/Seattle does this.Second one: No way Boston does this.
 

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