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Where did all the Melo haters go? Are they on timeout?
1 assist in a game they lost. 1 bucket in the 4th quarter when 40 year old Grant Hill was on him. And terrible on the defensive end.I'm not a hater. He's really good. But there is a difference between guys who can score and guys who make the whole team better. Mello doesn't make the guys around him better.
 
Where did all the Melo haters go? Are they on timeout?
Nugget fan here - we are so much better without him.
Not really. Middle of the West, a couple games better than the Griz and Warriors. Same as it ever was.
Really? 6th best record in the league.
There are still 12 teams with better Vegas odds to win the 2013 Championship.I like Lawson and Co, I just don't think the team is any different now than when Melo was there from a contending standpoint. And that's after getting extremely lucky with the Lawson pick and getting gift wrapped Iguodala.
 
Where did all the Melo haters go? Are they on timeout?
Nugget fan here - we are so much better without him.
Not really. Middle of the West, a couple games better than the Griz and Warriors. Same as it ever was.
Really? 6th best record in the league.
There are still 12 teams with better Vegas odds to win the 2013 Championship.I like Lawson and Co, I just don't think the team is any different now than when Melo was there from a contending standpoint. And that's after getting extremely lucky with the Lawson pick and getting gift wrapped Iguodala.
They are a whole lot younger - 3rd youngest in the league - WITH Andre Miller(36) on the team. So much better defensively. And they can run so much better than the Melo team. The great pick you are overlooking is the Manimal - 22nd pick. Amazingly Iguodala is just starting to get going - he had a pretty mediocre start. Last game against Thunder however was a big one and helped win that game - Durant went 7-20.
 
Lebrin has missed about four shots since new years. I'm only slightly exaggerating. Dude has only missed two shots today and has 26. Just missed a free thow, got the board and nailed a three.

 
Where did all the Melo haters go? Are they on timeout?
Nugget fan here - we are so much better without him.
Not really. Middle of the West, a couple games better than the Griz and Warriors. Same as it ever was.
Really? 6th best record in the league.
There are still 12 teams with better Vegas odds to win the 2013 Championship.I like Lawson and Co, I just don't think the team is any different now than when Melo was there from a contending standpoint. And that's after getting extremely lucky with the Lawson pick and getting gift wrapped Iguodala.
The Vegas odds are a terrible, and if you went by them you'd think the Lakers are the 4th or 5th most likely team to win this year. I think the Nuggets are top to bottom better than the WCF team from a few years ago, but i'm not sure they are proportionally better with the top of the conference if that makes sense. I think they could potentially beat the Spurs or Clippers this year, but the gap between Den and OKC now is much bigger than the gap between Den and LA was that year IMO.
 
Where did all the Melo haters go? Are they on timeout?
Nugget fan here - we are so much better without him.
Not really. Middle of the West, a couple games better than the Griz and Warriors. Same as it ever was.
Really? 6th best record in the league.
There are still 12 teams with better Vegas odds to win the 2013 Championship.I like Lawson and Co, I just don't think the team is any different now than when Melo was there from a contending standpoint. And that's after getting extremely lucky with the Lawson pick and getting gift wrapped Iguodala.
They are a whole lot younger - 3rd youngest in the league - WITH Andre Miller(36) on the team. So much better defensively. And they can run so much better than the Melo team. The great pick you are overlooking is the Manimal - 22nd pick. Amazingly Iguodala is just starting to get going - he had a pretty mediocre start. Last game against Thunder however was a big one and helped win that game - Durant went 7-20.
I think you are misremembering how good they were the last couple years with Melo. When they went to the conference finals two years before Melo forced his way out they were the 8th rated defense and the 7th rated offense, this year they are 13th and 5th. That year's team should have beat the Lakers in the conference finals (I'm sure TGunz and Co will disagree) and probably would have went on to win the finals if Karl didn't love Anthony Carter so much. I think they were no worse than the second best team in the NBA that year. I have a lot of hope for the Nuggets going forward but I don't think they will ever be as good as the last couple years of Melo Nuggets unless they can flip a couple of good players for an especially good player soon. Next year they are set to be over the tax so they'll be dumping some contracts if they don't swing a 3 for 1 sort of trade.
 
Where did all the Melo haters go? Are they on timeout?
Nugget fan here - we are so much better without him.
Not really. Middle of the West, a couple games better than the Griz and Warriors. Same as it ever was.
Really? 6th best record in the league.
There are still 12 teams with better Vegas odds to win the 2013 Championship.I like Lawson and Co, I just don't think the team is any different now than when Melo was there from a contending standpoint. And that's after getting extremely lucky with the Lawson pick and getting gift wrapped Iguodala.
They are a whole lot younger - 3rd youngest in the league - WITH Andre Miller(36) on the team. So much better defensively. And they can run so much better than the Melo team. The great pick you are overlooking is the Manimal - 22nd pick. Amazingly Iguodala is just starting to get going - he had a pretty mediocre start. Last game against Thunder however was a big one and helped win that game - Durant went 7-20.
I think you are misremembering how good they were the last couple years with Melo. When they went to the conference finals two years before Melo forced his way out they were the 8th rated defense and the 7th rated offense, this year they are 13th and 5th. That year's team should have beat the Lakers in the conference finals (I'm sure TGunz and Co will disagree) and probably would have went on to win the finals if Karl didn't love Anthony Carter so much. I think they were no worse than the second best team in the NBA that year. I have a lot of hope for the Nuggets going forward but I don't think they will ever be as good as the last couple years of Melo Nuggets unless they can flip a couple of good players for an especially good player soon. Next year they are set to be over the tax so they'll be dumping some contracts if they don't swing a 3 for 1 sort of trade.
Yep. Amazing how vilified Melo is after all those good years in Denver. I can understand some of it, but he didn't hang Denver out to dry like LeBron did to Cleveland.
 
Where did all the Melo haters go? Are they on timeout?
Nugget fan here - we are so much better without him.
Not really. Middle of the West, a couple games better than the Griz and Warriors. Same as it ever was.
Really? 6th best record in the league.
There are still 12 teams with better Vegas odds to win the 2013 Championship.I like Lawson and Co, I just don't think the team is any different now than when Melo was there from a contending standpoint. And that's after getting extremely lucky with the Lawson pick and getting gift wrapped Iguodala.
They are a whole lot younger - 3rd youngest in the league - WITH Andre Miller(36) on the team. So much better defensively. And they can run so much better than the Melo team. The great pick you are overlooking is the Manimal - 22nd pick. Amazingly Iguodala is just starting to get going - he had a pretty mediocre start. Last game against Thunder however was a big one and helped win that game - Durant went 7-20.
I think you are misremembering how good they were the last couple years with Melo. When they went to the conference finals two years before Melo forced his way out they were the 8th rated defense and the 7th rated offense, this year they are 13th and 5th. That year's team should have beat the Lakers in the conference finals (I'm sure TGunz and Co will disagree) and probably would have went on to win the finals if Karl didn't love Anthony Carter so much. I think they were no worse than the second best team in the NBA that year. I have a lot of hope for the Nuggets going forward but I don't think they will ever be as good as the last couple years of Melo Nuggets unless they can flip a couple of good players for an especially good player soon. Next year they are set to be over the tax so they'll be dumping some contracts if they don't swing a 3 for 1 sort of trade.
Kev - I say wait till the end of the season to say this and look at the "ratings" - They are starting to gel in my opinion and have worked out roles and rotations that are better than the beginning of the year. That highly "ranked" Melo team had been around a bit as far as roles were concerned. I'll probably be jinxing the team with this statement - but look at the remaining schedule - I optimistically see 8 losses - that matches their best record with Melo when they went to the WCF.(54-28). they are 33-18 now - find me 10 losses in that schedule?
 
Yep. Amazing how vilified Melo is after all those good years in Denver. I can understand some of it, but he didn't hang Denver out to dry like LeBron did to Cleveland.
To be fair, that had little to do with Melo and more to do with management. I guess Melo was nice enough to tell Denver he wasn't coming back but beyond that, it was all Ujiri.
 
Where did all the Melo haters go? Are they on timeout?
Nugget fan here - we are so much better without him.
Not really. Middle of the West, a couple games better than the Griz and Warriors. Same as it ever was.
Really? 6th best record in the league.
There are still 12 teams with better Vegas odds to win the 2013 Championship.I like Lawson and Co, I just don't think the team is any different now than when Melo was there from a contending standpoint. And that's after getting extremely lucky with the Lawson pick and getting gift wrapped Iguodala.
They are a whole lot younger - 3rd youngest in the league - WITH Andre Miller(36) on the team. So much better defensively. And they can run so much better than the Melo team. The great pick you are overlooking is the Manimal - 22nd pick. Amazingly Iguodala is just starting to get going - he had a pretty mediocre start. Last game against Thunder however was a big one and helped win that game - Durant went 7-20.
I think you are misremembering how good they were the last couple years with Melo. When they went to the conference finals two years before Melo forced his way out they were the 8th rated defense and the 7th rated offense, this year they are 13th and 5th. That year's team should have beat the Lakers in the conference finals (I'm sure TGunz and Co will disagree) and probably would have went on to win the finals if Karl didn't love Anthony Carter so much. I think they were no worse than the second best team in the NBA that year. I have a lot of hope for the Nuggets going forward but I don't think they will ever be as good as the last couple years of Melo Nuggets unless they can flip a couple of good players for an especially good player soon. Next year they are set to be over the tax so they'll be dumping some contracts if they don't swing a 3 for 1 sort of trade.
Kev - I say wait till the end of the season to say this and look at the "ratings" - They are starting to gel in my opinion and have worked out roles and rotations that are better than the beginning of the year. That highly "ranked" Melo team had been around a bit as far as roles were concerned. I'll probably be jinxing the team with this statement - but look at the remaining schedule - I optimistically see 8 losses - that matches their best record with Melo when they went to the WCF.(54-28). they are 33-18 now - find me 10 losses in that schedule?
Didn't Denver lose to the Wizards and Twolves in the last month?
 
Where did all the Melo haters go? Are they on timeout?
Nugget fan here - we are so much better without him.
Not really. Middle of the West, a couple games better than the Griz and Warriors. Same as it ever was.
Really? 6th best record in the league.
There are still 12 teams with better Vegas odds to win the 2013 Championship.I like Lawson and Co, I just don't think the team is any different now than when Melo was there from a contending standpoint. And that's after getting extremely lucky with the Lawson pick and getting gift wrapped Iguodala.
They are a whole lot younger - 3rd youngest in the league - WITH Andre Miller(36) on the team. So much better defensively. And they can run so much better than the Melo team. The great pick you are overlooking is the Manimal - 22nd pick. Amazingly Iguodala is just starting to get going - he had a pretty mediocre start. Last game against Thunder however was a big one and helped win that game - Durant went 7-20.
I think you are misremembering how good they were the last couple years with Melo. When they went to the conference finals two years before Melo forced his way out they were the 8th rated defense and the 7th rated offense, this year they are 13th and 5th. That year's team should have beat the Lakers in the conference finals (I'm sure TGunz and Co will disagree) and probably would have went on to win the finals if Karl didn't love Anthony Carter so much. I think they were no worse than the second best team in the NBA that year. I have a lot of hope for the Nuggets going forward but I don't think they will ever be as good as the last couple years of Melo Nuggets unless they can flip a couple of good players for an especially good player soon. Next year they are set to be over the tax so they'll be dumping some contracts if they don't swing a 3 for 1 sort of trade.
Kev - I say wait till the end of the season to say this and look at the "ratings" - They are starting to gel in my opinion and have worked out roles and rotations that are better than the beginning of the year. That highly "ranked" Melo team had been around a bit as far as roles were concerned. I'll probably be jinxing the team with this statement - but look at the remaining schedule - I optimistically see 8 losses - that matches their best record with Melo when they went to the WCF.(54-28). they are 33-18 now - find me 10 losses in that schedule?
Didn't Denver lose to the Wizards and Twolves in the last month?
T wolves loss was January 3rd- seemingly a lifetime ago(15-2 since then). Wizards game was just way weird Gallinari and Faried were fighting the flu - but Wizards are improving - have beaten the Clippers and Knicks in last couple of games
 
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Where did all the Melo haters go? Are they on timeout?
Nugget fan here - we are so much better without him.
Not really. Middle of the West, a couple games better than the Griz and Warriors. Same as it ever was.
Really? 6th best record in the league.
There are still 12 teams with better Vegas odds to win the 2013 Championship.I like Lawson and Co, I just don't think the team is any different now than when Melo was there from a contending standpoint. And that's after getting extremely lucky with the Lawson pick and getting gift wrapped Iguodala.
They are a whole lot younger - 3rd youngest in the league - WITH Andre Miller(36) on the team. So much better defensively. And they can run so much better than the Melo team. The great pick you are overlooking is the Manimal - 22nd pick. Amazingly Iguodala is just starting to get going - he had a pretty mediocre start. Last game against Thunder however was a big one and helped win that game - Durant went 7-20.
I think you are misremembering how good they were the last couple years with Melo. When they went to the conference finals two years before Melo forced his way out they were the 8th rated defense and the 7th rated offense, this year they are 13th and 5th. That year's team should have beat the Lakers in the conference finals (I'm sure TGunz and Co will disagree) and probably would have went on to win the finals if Karl didn't love Anthony Carter so much. I think they were no worse than the second best team in the NBA that year. I have a lot of hope for the Nuggets going forward but I don't think they will ever be as good as the last couple years of Melo Nuggets unless they can flip a couple of good players for an especially good player soon. Next year they are set to be over the tax so they'll be dumping some contracts if they don't swing a 3 for 1 sort of trade.
Kev - I say wait till the end of the season to say this and look at the "ratings" - They are starting to gel in my opinion and have worked out roles and rotations that are better than the beginning of the year. That highly "ranked" Melo team had been around a bit as far as roles were concerned. I'll probably be jinxing the team with this statement - but look at the remaining schedule - I optimistically see 8 losses - that matches their best record with Melo when they went to the WCF.(54-28). they are 33-18 now - find me 10 losses in that schedule?
Let's not forget that the Nuggets made it out of the first round exactly one time in seven seasons with Carmelo on the team. They are also on pace to match their best W-L over those years. If I had to bet on it, I think they will beat that record and get to at least the second round this season.
 
Where did all the Melo haters go? Are they on timeout?
Nugget fan here - we are so much better without him.
Not really. Middle of the West, a couple games better than the Griz and Warriors. Same as it ever was.
Really? 6th best record in the league.
There are still 12 teams with better Vegas odds to win the 2013 Championship.I like Lawson and Co, I just don't think the team is any different now than when Melo was there from a contending standpoint. And that's after getting extremely lucky with the Lawson pick and getting gift wrapped Iguodala.
They are a whole lot younger - 3rd youngest in the league - WITH Andre Miller(36) on the team. So much better defensively. And they can run so much better than the Melo team. The great pick you are overlooking is the Manimal - 22nd pick. Amazingly Iguodala is just starting to get going - he had a pretty mediocre start. Last game against Thunder however was a big one and helped win that game - Durant went 7-20.
I think you are misremembering how good they were the last couple years with Melo. When they went to the conference finals two years before Melo forced his way out they were the 8th rated defense and the 7th rated offense, this year they are 13th and 5th. That year's team should have beat the Lakers in the conference finals (I'm sure TGunz and Co will disagree) and probably would have went on to win the finals if Karl didn't love Anthony Carter so much. I think they were no worse than the second best team in the NBA that year. I have a lot of hope for the Nuggets going forward but I don't think they will ever be as good as the last couple years of Melo Nuggets unless they can flip a couple of good players for an especially good player soon. Next year they are set to be over the tax so they'll be dumping some contracts if they don't swing a 3 for 1 sort of trade.
Kev - I say wait till the end of the season to say this and look at the "ratings" - They are starting to gel in my opinion and have worked out roles and rotations that are better than the beginning of the year. That highly "ranked" Melo team had been around a bit as far as roles were concerned. I'll probably be jinxing the team with this statement - but look at the remaining schedule - I optimistically see 8 losses - that matches their best record with Melo when they went to the WCF.(54-28). they are 33-18 now - find me 10 losses in that schedule?
Didn't Denver lose to the Wizards and Twolves in the last month?
T wolves loss was January 3rd- seemingly a lifetime ago(15-2 since then). Wizards game was just way weird Gallinari and Faried were fighting the flu - but Wizards are improving - have beaten the Clippers and Knicks in last couple of games
Point being, it's easy to find 10 losses if they can lose to the Wolves and Wiz. I like the Nuggs - fun team to watch.

 
Former Chicago Bulls guard and current ESPN college basketball analyst Jay Williams told the New York Times that his Chicago Bulls teammates smoked marijuana before games during his lone NBA season in 2002-2003.

The quote, buried in a lengthy profile on the player and his return from the devastating motorcycle accident that ended his career in 2003 ran as such:

“I didn’t know how to handle it at first,” Williams said. “I didn’t know how to be around it. Guys were on the bench, trying to kick it to girls in the stands, having ball boys run over. I mean, some guys were high.”

Asked to clarify, Williams said: “There were guys smoking weed before games. Guys asking in the middle of the game, ‘Do you smell popcorn?’ ”

He noticed the nervous laughter around the kitchen table. “You think I’m playing,” Williams said.

The Bulls went 30-52 that season, finishing 6th in the then-eight team Central Division.
 
Former Chicago Bulls guard and current ESPN college basketball analyst Jay Williams told the New York Times that his Chicago Bulls teammates smoked marijuana before games during his lone NBA season in 2002-2003.

The quote, buried in a lengthy profile on the player and his return from the devastating motorcycle accident that ended his career in 2003 ran as such:

“I didn’t know how to handle it at first,” Williams said. “I didn’t know how to be around it. Guys were on the bench, trying to kick it to girls in the stands, having ball boys run over. I mean, some guys were high.”

Asked to clarify, Williams said: “There were guys smoking weed before games. Guys asking in the middle of the game, ‘Do you smell popcorn?’ ”

He noticed the nervous laughter around the kitchen table. “You think I’m playing,” Williams said.

The Bulls went 30-52 that season, finishing 6th in the then-eight team Central Division.
I blame Hoiberg.
 
Nuggets hold Celtics to 14 in the 4th quarter - and tie the game on a Ty Lawson shot with .08 leftETA- Igoudala out the 2nd half with neck injury

 
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Nuggets - Celtics going to 3OTKG throwing up bricks all game - now 3-3 in the 3rd OT on some tough shots

 
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Nuggets go for win and Millers 3 falls short - heck of an effort for the second of a back to back on the road when the home team has 4 days rest

 
Celtics 7-0 w/o Rondo. Granted 6 of those 7 have been at home and beaten bottom feeders like the Lakers,Magic and Kings. Still have impressive home wins over the Heat and Clippers over that same span. Bit early on the Doc COTY award. They're a little above .500 team (below .500 when they had Rondo). Let's see how they fare on this upcoming road swing (next 10 of 13 games on the road). We could just as easily be having the conversation that they should have dealt Pierce/Garnett at the deadline after this trip.

 
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Lin:2:53 game action in 4th quarter.3 fouls9 points allowed to Kings top PG, Isaiah Thomas. (Not to be confused with their other PG, former Top 10 NBA PG Aaron Brooks)Ball game.

4 2:40 Sac Isaiah Thomas makes free throw 2 of 2. 4 2:40 Sac Isaiah Thomas makes free throw 1 of 2. 4 2:40 Hou Substitution: Patrick Beverley in for Jeremy Lin. 4 2:40 Hou Personal foul committed by Jeremy Lin. 4 3:16 Sac Isaiah Thomas makes a 3-point jump shot from 26 feet out. 4 3:37 Hou Substitution: Jeremy Lin in for Patrick Beverley. 4 7:58 Sac Isaiah Thomas makes free throw 2 of 2. 4 7:58 Hou Substitution: James Harden in for Jeremy Lin. 4 7:58 Sac Isaiah Thomas makes free throw 1 of 2. 4 7:58 Hou Shooting foul committed by Jeremy Lin. 4 9:48 Sac Isaiah Thomas makes free throw 2 of 2. 4 9:48 Sac Isaiah Thomas makes free throw 1 of 2. 4 9:48 Hou Shooting foul committed by Jeremy Lin. 4 9:54 Hou Substitution: Jeremy Lin in for Patrick Beverley.
 
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Lin:2:53 game action in 4th quarter.3 fouls9 points allowed.Ball game.

4 2:40 Sac Isaiah Thomas makes free throw 2 of 2. 4 2:40 Sac Isaiah Thomas makes free throw 1 of 2. 4 2:40 Hou Substitution: Patrick Beverley in for Jeremy Lin. 4 2:40 Hou Personal foul committed by Jeremy Lin. 4 3:16 Sac Isaiah Thomas makes a 3-point jump shot from 26 feet out. 4 3:37 Hou Substitution: Jeremy Lin in for Patrick Beverley. 4 7:58 Sac Isaiah Thomas makes free throw 2 of 2. 4 7:58 Hou Substitution: James Harden in for Jeremy Lin. 4 7:58 Sac Isaiah Thomas makes free throw 1 of 2. 4 7:58 Hou Shooting foul committed by Jeremy Lin. 4 9:48 Sac Isaiah Thomas makes free throw 2 of 2. 4 9:48 Sac Isaiah Thomas makes free throw 1 of 2. 4 9:48 Hou Shooting foul committed by Jeremy Lin. 4 9:54 Hou Substitution: Jeremy Lin in for Patrick Beverley.
Did you watch the game? When Lin fouled out the rockets were ahead iirc. The kings caught fire from deep and the refs quit calling obvious fouls on harden drives. That was the ball game.
 
When Lin fouled out the rockets were ahead iirc.
Wrong. Again.
4 2:40 Sac Isaiah Thomas makes free throw 2 of 2. 105 1084 2:40 Sac Isaiah Thomas makes free throw 1 of 2. 105 1074 2:40 Hou Substitution: Patrick Beverley in for Jeremy Lin. 105 1064 2:40 Sac Kings take a full timeout. 105 1064 2:40 Hou Personal foul committed by Jeremy Lin. 105 106
You're welcome.
 
Rotoworld.com

The Nets are reportedly "going hard" after Josh Smith in trade talks, and the Bobcats and Rockets are also in the mix.According to ESPN's Chris Broussard, "While they've discussed a trade for Ben Gordon, getting Josh is a bigger priority." That's not exactly a ground-breaking revelation, especially with the Nets' obvious desire for a starting-caliber PF, but it suggests that Brooklyn feels they have a legitimate chance to deal for Smoove. Though intriguing, this is firmly in the 'rumor' stage.
 
Rotoworld.com

The Nets are reportedly "going hard" after Josh Smith in trade talks, and the Bobcats and Rockets are also in the mix.According to ESPN's Chris Broussard, "While they've discussed a trade for Ben Gordon, getting Josh is a bigger priority." That's not exactly a ground-breaking revelation, especially with the Nets' obvious desire for a starting-caliber PF, but it suggests that Brooklyn feels they have a legitimate chance to deal for Smoove. Though intriguing, this is firmly in the 'rumor' stage.
BK is the perfect landing spot for Smith, they're willing to pay him and they have a legit post presence next to him.
 
Celtics 7-0 w/o Rondo.

Granted 6 of those 7 have been at home and beaten bottom feeders like the Lakers,Magic and Kings. Still have impressive home wins over the Heat and Clippers over that same span.

Bit early on the Doc COTY award. They're a little above .500 team (below .500 when they had Rondo). Let's see how they fare on this upcoming road swing (next 10 of 13 games on the road). We could just as easily be having the conversation that they should have dealt Pierce/Garnett at the deadline after this trip.
This will not get old. Ever.
 
Anyone still think Lakers have a shot at the playoffs?
Yes.
I think they have to go about 20-10 to make it. Doesn't look easy. Too many spots where they stand a very good chance of losing: Two games against the Clips, a B2B game in Denver, a B2B game in ATL, a B2B game in Portland, and a B2B game in Phoenix. A couple games against GSW, a roadie to OKC, home games against Boston and Memphis. And then there games where they might be a favorite, but still stand a chance of losing: home to Dallas, home to Portland, home to ATL, even home to the Wizards isn't the automatic W it used to be.4-3's not a bad roadtrip, but they dug a pretty good hole for those first few weeks of January. If I had to guess I'd say they don't make it, but by no means is it a lock. Houston or Utah could easily fall apart, too.
 
Can't believe how good the Celtics are playing without Rondo.
IMO most of the wing players are more comfortable without him since he dribbled the ball and ate up a lot of the shot clock(similar to Calderon who also gets a ton of assists) at times and guys like Terry/Lee and Pierce at times become strictly spot up jump shooters.
 
Great 4th quarter by Isaiah Thomas. Lin couldn't keep up with him.
Only kings to score in the 4th were Thomas, salmons, and Francisco Garcia. Murderers row right there. Also noteworthy that the apparently lame duck kings drew 32,000 fans for their two home games this weekend. Sacramento is at least trying to make its case for the team in advance of the board of governors meeting.
 
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