*NBA THREAD* Abe will be missed (3 Viewers)

[tom22406]

You heard anything on why Jordan Crawford has been benched the last few games or so?Been hearing the Celtics have interest in him with Fab Melo coming back in return.They have made it clear the Wall,Beal and Nene are off limits for trades and I,like you,have been pleasantly surprised at Webster this year once he found his role.

No idea. Although the fact that he was tweeting his December stats as some sort of weird protest (and not mentioning he only shot 41% while posting them and that the Wiz went 3-11 during the month) doesn't bode well for him. My guess is that it's nothing more than Wittman finding a rotation that worked and it wasn't the one that included him. At this point any return at all for him is OK by me. I love the steez, but if he's not contributing, he's not contributing.

He seems like a decent bench guy who can score if Beal is off or they need a burst but if it's because he thinks he's better than he really is I have no problem letting him sit or being traded.I'm really hoping they can move Okafor and or Ariza to free up some cap room but it doesn't sound like they are getting any takers so far.And while we are talking Wiz,Am I the only one thinking we need more production from Nene?I love what he brings but they need more from him stat wise to make that next step up.

 

[Juxtatarot]

Two hours left. :crickets:

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Two hours left. :crickets:

Thought there would be more than this. Only thing that seems to be about to happen is Telfair to Toronto :blockbuster:

 

[Abraham]

Rockets have an open roster spot and need a point guard. Some talk that they will resign machado.

 

[Village Idiot]

Why was Toronto putting the ball in Gay's hands in the 4th quarter last night when Anderson was killing it from 3 range?He made 4-4 from three range and was 2-3 inside the arc.Anderson single handedly got the Rasptors back in that game.Then he gets taken out, and even after he was back in they went to Gay.Gay was having a horrible night. 5-15 oof.He made two three pointers banking them in for 2 of his makes.

 

[TobiasFunke]

You heard anything on why Jordan Crawford has been benched the last few games or so?Been hearing the Celtics have interest in him with Fab Melo coming back in return.They have made it clear the Wall,Beal and Nene are off limits for trades and I,like you,have been pleasantly surprised at Webster this year once he found his role.

No idea. Although the fact that he was tweeting his December stats as some sort of weird protest (and not mentioning he only shot 41% while posting them and that the Wiz went 3-11 during the month) doesn't bode well for him. My guess is that it's nothing more than Wittman finding a rotation that worked and it wasn't the one that included him. At this point any return at all for him is OK by me. I love the steez, but if he's not contributing, he's not contributing.

He seems like a decent bench guy who can score if Beal is off or they need a burst but if it's because he thinks he's better than he really is I have no problem letting him sit or being traded.I'm really hoping they can move Okafor and or Ariza to free up some cap room but it doesn't sound like they are getting any takers so far.And while we are talking Wiz,Am I the only one thinking we need more production from Nene?I love what he brings but they need more from him stat wise to make that next step up.

I'm the last guy to fall back on announcer cliches, but I feel like Nene brings some veteran presence and tricks and whatnot that don't necessarily show up on the stat sheets. Or at least not the traditional ones; I think the plus-minus numbers show how much better the Wiz are with him on the floor. He definitely could be a little better on the scoring side, though. You'd like to see a guy like that shooting around 55% instead of 49%.By the way, when you check the five man +/- numbers the reason for benching Crawford becomes obvious.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Why was Toronto putting the ball in Gay's hands in the 4th quarter last night when Anderson was killing it from 3 range?He made 4-4 from three range and was 2-3 inside the arc.Anderson single handedly got the Rasptors back in that game.Then he gets taken out, and even after he was back in they went to Gay.Gay was having a horrible night. 5-15 oof.He made two three pointers banking them in for 2 of his makes.

Disgusting display of hero ball. I think it had little to do with Toronto and a lot to do with Gay. The rest of the team was forcing the ball to Anderson when they got a touch... Gay? Not so much. Gay has been fairly underwhelming in Toronto. A couple game winners are covering up his horribly inefficient shooting.

 

[DrJ]

Agreed that Lin has been inconsistent, but at the moment he is playing well. If he can keep it up then there will be something to get excited about.

Sure looks that way to me. Not getting all of the Lin hate personally.

 

[tom22406]

You heard anything on why Jordan Crawford has been benched the last few games or so?Been hearing the Celtics have interest in him with Fab Melo coming back in return.They have made it clear the Wall,Beal and Nene are off limits for trades and I,like you,have been pleasantly surprised at Webster this year once he found his role.

No idea. Although the fact that he was tweeting his December stats as some sort of weird protest (and not mentioning he only shot 41% while posting them and that the Wiz went 3-11 during the month) doesn't bode well for him. My guess is that it's nothing more than Wittman finding a rotation that worked and it wasn't the one that included him. At this point any return at all for him is OK by me. I love the steez, but if he's not contributing, he's not contributing.

He seems like a decent bench guy who can score if Beal is off or they need a burst but if it's because he thinks he's better than he really is I have no problem letting him sit or being traded.I'm really hoping they can move Okafor and or Ariza to free up some cap room but it doesn't sound like they are getting any takers so far.And while we are talking Wiz,Am I the only one thinking we need more production from Nene?I love what he brings but they need more from him stat wise to make that next step up.

I'm the last guy to fall back on announcer cliches, but I feel like Nene brings some veteran presence and tricks and whatnot that don't necessarily show up on the stat sheets. Or at least not the traditional ones; I think the plus-minus numbers show how much better the Wiz are with him on the floor. He definitely could be a little better on the scoring side, though. You'd like to see a guy like that shooting around 55% instead of 49%.By the way, when you check the five man +/- numbers the reason for benching Crawford becomes obvious.

Looking at his career numbers Nene never has been a great scorer and I'm not really asking for that but I did expect him to be a 16/10 guy shooting in the high 50% range on this team but may be asking too much given his history.No doubt they are a much better team with him on the floor and that is very clear.Crawford was the hero guy so that stat doesn't surprise me in the least.His defending is terrible and shot selection tends to be very bad but with a team needing a spark off the bench I thought he fit that need right now for them.Nothing special and a role player at best so no biggie either way.Was just wondering if him and Witt had it out or not since Witt has loved to crack the whip on certain guys(Singleton and Vesely a lot).

 

[TobiasFunke]

Agreed that Lin has been inconsistent, but at the moment he is playing well. If he can keep it up then there will be something to get excited about.

Sure looks that way to me. Not getting all of the Lin hate personally.

Well, that's kind of the deal with inconsistency. There's always moments when you're playing well. The problem is what happens you're not.

 

[Juxtatarot]

Marc J. Spears‏@SpearsNBAYahooHeat has agreed to send forward-center Dexter Pittman and a second round pick to the Grizzlies for a trade exception, sources tell Y! SportsMarc J. Spears‏@SpearsNBAYahooThe Grizzlies will get Miami's 2013 second-round pick in the trade, which would be 59th today, a source said.BLOCKBUSTER!!

 

[biggamer3]

I dont usually like these Highlight montages on Youtube, but this Harden Rockets one was done so well I had to share.http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=y_eYWD9cwak

 

[DrJ]

Agreed that Lin has been inconsistent, but at the moment he is playing well. If he can keep it up then there will be something to get excited about.

Sure looks that way to me. Not getting all of the Lin hate personally.

Well, that's kind of the deal with inconsistency. There's always moments when you're playing well. The problem is what happens you're not.

Seems like he's been playing consistently well for about a month now though.

 

[Bobcat10]

Marc J. Spears‏@SpearsNBAYahooHeat has agreed to send forward-center Dexter Pittman and a second round pick to the Grizzlies for a trade exception, sources tell Y! SportsMarc J. Spears‏@SpearsNBAYahooThe Grizzlies will get Miami's 2013 second-round pick in the trade, which would be 59th today, a source said.BLOCKBUSTER!!

Might not be a blockbuster but its a sound move by Memphis to get something. They actually could use the pick.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Agreed that Lin has been inconsistent, but at the moment he is playing well. If he can keep it up then there will be something to get excited about.

Sure looks that way to me. Not getting all of the Lin hate personally.

Well, that's kind of the deal with inconsistency. There's always moments when you're playing well. The problem is what happens you're not.

Seems like he's been playing consistently well for about a month now though.

I don't catch a lot of Rockets basketball so I've only got his numbers at my disposal. So with that limitation in mind ... his February numbers have been pretty solid so far. But his January numbers are hideous, cover-your-eyes awful, so you have to wonder if the February numbers are variance (only 8 games) rather than progress. But maybe not, maybe this is the start of something good, or at least passable.

 

[DrJ]

Agreed that Lin has been inconsistent, but at the moment he is playing well. If he can keep it up then there will be something to get excited about.

Sure looks that way to me. Not getting all of the Lin hate personally.

Well, that's kind of the deal with inconsistency. There's always moments when you're playing well. The problem is what happens you're not.

Seems like he's been playing consistently well for about a month now though.

I don't catch a lot of Rockets basketball so I've only got his numbers at my disposal. So with that limitation in mind ... his February numbers have been pretty solid so far. But his January numbers are hideous, cover-your-eyes awful, so you have to wonder if the February numbers are variance (only 8 games) rather than progress. But maybe not, maybe this is the start of something good, or at least passable.

Yeah, it looks like it's been since about 1/25 or so that he's really stepped it up. He was a steal machine in January though - kind of surprised that he's 4th in the league in that stat at this point. Especially consider how horrible everyone's suggesting he is on D.

 

[Village Idiot]

Marc J. Spears‏@SpearsNBAYahooHeat has agreed to send forward-center Dexter Pittman and a second round pick to the Grizzlies for a trade exception, sources tell Y! SportsMarc J. Spears‏@SpearsNBAYahooThe Grizzlies will get Miami's 2013 second-round pick in the trade, which would be 59th today, a source said.BLOCKBUSTER!!

Griz still need a shooter but Hollins wanted a back up center.Even though Davis played the 5 in Toronto, Hollins thinks he is too thin to play the 5 when Gasol is out.Grizz had/have alot of trade exceptions, the largest one was for 7 point something million they received from the Cavs deal.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Agreed that Lin has been inconsistent, but at the moment he is playing well. If he can keep it up then there will be something to get excited about.

Sure looks that way to me. Not getting all of the Lin hate personally.

Well, that's kind of the deal with inconsistency. There's always moments when you're playing well. The problem is what happens you're not.

Seems like he's been playing consistently well for about a month now though.

I don't catch a lot of Rockets basketball so I've only got his numbers at my disposal. So with that limitation in mind ... his February numbers have been pretty solid so far. But his January numbers are hideous, cover-your-eyes awful, so you have to wonder if the February numbers are variance (only 8 games) rather than progress. But maybe not, maybe this is the start of something good, or at least passable.

Yeah, it looks like it's been since about 1/25 or so that he's really stepped it up. He was a steal machine in January though - kind of surprised that he's 4th in the league in that stat at this point. Especially consider how horrible everyone's suggesting he is on D.

Steals != Good D

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Marc J. Spears‏@SpearsNBAYahooHeat has agreed to send forward-center Dexter Pittman and a second round pick to the Grizzlies for a trade exception, sources tell Y! SportsMarc J. Spears‏@SpearsNBAYahooThe Grizzlies will get Miami's 2013 second-round pick in the trade, which would be 59th today, a source said.BLOCKBUSTER!!

Griz still need a shooter but Hollins wanted a back up center.Even though Davis played the 5 in Toronto, Hollins thinks he is too thin to play the 5 when Gasol is out.Grizz had/have alot of trade exceptions, the largest one was for 7 point something million they received from the Cavs deal.

Davis is closer to a 3 than a 5 and he never really played the 5 in Toronto. When him and Johnson were the bigs on the floor, Johnson would typically play the other teams center.ETA: To add, in no way would he be a good 3. He's is quick but weak. Even big PFs abuse him down low.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Marc J. Spears‏@SpearsNBAYahooHeat has agreed to send forward-center Dexter Pittman and a second round pick to the Grizzlies for a trade exception, sources tell Y! SportsMarc J. Spears‏@SpearsNBAYahooThe Grizzlies will get Miami's 2013 second-round pick in the trade, which would be 59th today, a source said.BLOCKBUSTER!!

Might not be a blockbuster but its a sound move by Memphis to get something. They actually could use the pick.

How much is the exemption for? I forget how these work. Could another deal be happening with the Heat as a third team or something?

 

[TobiasFunke]

Agreed that Lin has been inconsistent, but at the moment he is playing well. If he can keep it up then there will be something to get excited about.

Sure looks that way to me. Not getting all of the Lin hate personally.

Well, that's kind of the deal with inconsistency. There's always moments when you're playing well. The problem is what happens you're not.

Seems like he's been playing consistently well for about a month now though.

I don't catch a lot of Rockets basketball so I've only got his numbers at my disposal. So with that limitation in mind ... his February numbers have been pretty solid so far. But his January numbers are hideous, cover-your-eyes awful, so you have to wonder if the February numbers are variance (only 8 games) rather than progress. But maybe not, maybe this is the start of something good, or at least passable.

Yeah, it looks like it's been since about 1/25 or so that he's really stepped it up. He was a steal machine in January though - kind of surprised that he's 4th in the league in that stat at this point. Especially consider how horrible everyone's suggesting he is on D.

He plays a lot of minutes on the perimeter for an up-tempo team. It would be hard not to accumulate steals in that scenario. Harden's among the league leaders too, and nobody mistakes him for a defensive wiz.

 

[Abraham]

Crawford to Boston for barbosa.

 

[Yo Mama]

Jordan Crawford to Celtics for Barbosa's expiring corpse. Should be interesting.

 

[Yo Mama]

Snipe

 

[DrJ]

Agreed that Lin has been inconsistent, but at the moment he is playing well. If he can keep it up then there will be something to get excited about.

Sure looks that way to me. Not getting all of the Lin hate personally.

Well, that's kind of the deal with inconsistency. There's always moments when you're playing well. The problem is what happens you're not.

Seems like he's been playing consistently well for about a month now though.

I don't catch a lot of Rockets basketball so I've only got his numbers at my disposal. So with that limitation in mind ... his February numbers have been pretty solid so far. But his January numbers are hideous, cover-your-eyes awful, so you have to wonder if the February numbers are variance (only 8 games) rather than progress. But maybe not, maybe this is the start of something good, or at least passable.

Yeah, it looks like it's been since about 1/25 or so that he's really stepped it up. He was a steal machine in January though - kind of surprised that he's 4th in the league in that stat at this point. Especially consider how horrible everyone's suggesting he is on D.

Steals != Good D

No, but it certainly is a positive element for him there. He's also tied for 5th best D Rating on the team, as far as guys getting piles of minutes he's 2nd behind Omer. He has the 2nd highest Defensive Win Shares on the team behind Omer. I don't watch a lot of Rocket basketball either, but the stats sure paint a different picture than what all of you guys in here are saying about him.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Rotoworld.com

Sam Amick reports the Suns do not expect to land Josh Smith before Thursday's 3 p.m. ET deadline, while the Nets are "hanging on by a thread" in talks for him, according to David Aldridge.

Barring a last-second surprise, Smith is either going to be a Hawk or a Buck when he wakes up Friday. Phoenix appears to have swung and missed once again in their efforts to find a star.

Yes, because Eric Gordon and Josh Smith are 'stars' worthy of max contracts...

Anyone that pays Josh Smith a max contract are fools.

Shocking I know....

Rotoworld.com

The Hornets are expected to explore an offseason trade for Eric Gordon.

Not a huge surprise. It was reported that Gordon would likely remain with the team through the deadline, but the club will revisit the possibility of dealing him in the offseason. With a checkered health history and massive contract, the Hornets will have their work cut out for them. Feb 21 - 11:50 AM

Source: New Orleans Times-Picayune

Who wouldn't want a guy that only shoots, shooting 40% this year, with bad knees, that still can't play back-2-backs, and due almost $45 mil for the next 3 years?? I'm sure the suitors are plenty. Got a nice chuckle out of the New Orleans based rumor of Gordon for Klay Thompson though. Keep trying boys.

 

[Kev4029]

Marc J. Spears‏@SpearsNBAYahooHeat has agreed to send forward-center Dexter Pittman and a second round pick to the Grizzlies for a trade exception, sources tell Y! SportsMarc J. Spears‏@SpearsNBAYahooThe Grizzlies will get Miami's 2013 second-round pick in the trade, which would be 59th today, a source said.BLOCKBUSTER!!

Might not be a blockbuster but its a sound move by Memphis to get something. They actually could use the pick.

How much is the exemption for? I forget how these work. Could another deal be happening with the Heat as a third team or something?

Mark Stein doesn't understand how they work either...You can't trade exceptions, they are created. The grizz included some no name prospect they drafted at some point. Teams have to include something in the trade, can't just take things.The exception will be for whatever Pittmans salary is, so its worthless.

 

[DrJ]

Agreed that Lin has been inconsistent, but at the moment he is playing well. If he can keep it up then there will be something to get excited about.

Sure looks that way to me. Not getting all of the Lin hate personally.

Well, that's kind of the deal with inconsistency. There's always moments when you're playing well. The problem is what happens you're not.

Seems like he's been playing consistently well for about a month now though.

I don't catch a lot of Rockets basketball so I've only got his numbers at my disposal. So with that limitation in mind ... his February numbers have been pretty solid so far. But his January numbers are hideous, cover-your-eyes awful, so you have to wonder if the February numbers are variance (only 8 games) rather than progress. But maybe not, maybe this is the start of something good, or at least passable.

Yeah, it looks like it's been since about 1/25 or so that he's really stepped it up. He was a steal machine in January though - kind of surprised that he's 4th in the league in that stat at this point. Especially consider how horrible everyone's suggesting he is on D.

He plays a lot of minutes on the perimeter for an up-tempo team. It would be hard not to accumulate steals in that scenario. Harden's among the league leaders too, and nobody mistakes him for a defensive wiz.

He has better defensive stats in just about every category than Harden, and nobody is calling Harden a door mat. I'm not suggesting he's some great defender, but it just seems that people are a bit biased against this guy.

 

[Kev4029]

Agreed that Lin has been inconsistent, but at the moment he is playing well. If he can keep it up then there will be something to get excited about.

Sure looks that way to me. Not getting all of the Lin hate personally.

Well, that's kind of the deal with inconsistency. There's always moments when you're playing well. The problem is what happens you're not.

Seems like he's been playing consistently well for about a month now though.

I don't catch a lot of Rockets basketball so I've only got his numbers at my disposal. So with that limitation in mind ... his February numbers have been pretty solid so far. But his January numbers are hideous, cover-your-eyes awful, so you have to wonder if the February numbers are variance (only 8 games) rather than progress. But maybe not, maybe this is the start of something good, or at least passable.

Yeah, it looks like it's been since about 1/25 or so that he's really stepped it up. He was a steal machine in January though - kind of surprised that he's 4th in the league in that stat at this point. Especially consider how horrible everyone's suggesting he is on D.

Steals != Good D

No, but it certainly is a positive element for him there. He's also tied for 5th best D Rating on the team, as far as guys getting piles of minutes he's 2nd behind Omer. He has the 2nd highest Defensive Win Shares on the team behind Omer. I don't watch a lot of Rocket basketball either, but the stats sure paint a different picture than what all of you guys in here are saying about him.

Quit using stats you don't understand to defend a player you don't watch.

 

[Juxtatarot]

Marc J. Spears‏@SpearsNBAYahooHeat has agreed to send forward-center Dexter Pittman and a second round pick to the Grizzlies for a trade exception, sources tell Y! SportsMarc J. Spears‏@SpearsNBAYahooThe Grizzlies will get Miami's 2013 second-round pick in the trade, which would be 59th today, a source said.BLOCKBUSTER!!

Might not be a blockbuster but its a sound move by Memphis to get something. They actually could use the pick.

How much is the exemption for? I forget how these work. Could another deal be happening with the Heat as a third team or something?

I think the exemption is just for Pittman's salary - $854K. I don't see any value there since a team can always sign players to the minimum. (Right?)

 

[Premier]

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Marc J. Spears‏@SpearsNBAYahooHeat has agreed to send forward-center Dexter Pittman and a second round pick to the Grizzlies for a trade exception, sources tell Y! SportsMarc J. Spears‏@SpearsNBAYahooThe Grizzlies will get Miami's 2013 second-round pick in the trade, which would be 59th today, a source said.BLOCKBUSTER!!

Might not be a blockbuster but its a sound move by Memphis to get something. They actually could use the pick.

How much is the exemption for? I forget how these work. Could another deal be happening with the Heat as a third team or something?

I think the exemption is just for Pittman's salary - $854K. I don't see any value there since a team can always sign players to the minimum. (Right?)

Sooooo what's in it for the Heat then?

 

[Kev4029]

Agreed that Lin has been inconsistent, but at the moment he is playing well. If he can keep it up then there will be something to get excited about.

Sure looks that way to me. Not getting all of the Lin hate personally.

Well, that's kind of the deal with inconsistency. There's always moments when you're playing well. The problem is what happens you're not.

Seems like he's been playing consistently well for about a month now though.

I don't catch a lot of Rockets basketball so I've only got his numbers at my disposal. So with that limitation in mind ... his February numbers have been pretty solid so far. But his January numbers are hideous, cover-your-eyes awful, so you have to wonder if the February numbers are variance (only 8 games) rather than progress. But maybe not, maybe this is the start of something good, or at least passable.

Yeah, it looks like it's been since about 1/25 or so that he's really stepped it up. He was a steal machine in January though - kind of surprised that he's 4th in the league in that stat at this point. Especially consider how horrible everyone's suggesting he is on D.

He plays a lot of minutes on the perimeter for an up-tempo team. It would be hard not to accumulate steals in that scenario. Harden's among the league leaders too, and nobody mistakes him for a defensive wiz.

He has better defensive stats in just about every category than Harden, and nobody is calling Harden a door mat. I'm not suggesting he's some great defender, but it just seems that people are a bit biased against this guy.

Harden is an awful defender, if that's where you set your bar, you are doing things wrong. You should really drop this Lin argument.

 

[Juxtatarot]

Marc J. Spears‏@SpearsNBAYahooHeat has agreed to send forward-center Dexter Pittman and a second round pick to the Grizzlies for a trade exception, sources tell Y! SportsMarc J. Spears‏@SpearsNBAYahooThe Grizzlies will get Miami's 2013 second-round pick in the trade, which would be 59th today, a source said.BLOCKBUSTER!!

Might not be a blockbuster but its a sound move by Memphis to get something. They actually could use the pick.

How much is the exemption for? I forget how these work. Could another deal be happening with the Heat as a third team or something?

I think the exemption is just for Pittman's salary - $854K. I don't see any value there since a team can always sign players to the minimum. (Right?)

Sooooo what's in it for the Heat then?

Opens up a roster slot to sign some future bought-out player.

 

[DrJ]

Agreed that Lin has been inconsistent, but at the moment he is playing well. If he can keep it up then there will be something to get excited about.

Sure looks that way to me. Not getting all of the Lin hate personally.

Well, that's kind of the deal with inconsistency. There's always moments when you're playing well. The problem is what happens you're not.

Seems like he's been playing consistently well for about a month now though.

I don't catch a lot of Rockets basketball so I've only got his numbers at my disposal. So with that limitation in mind ... his February numbers have been pretty solid so far. But his January numbers are hideous, cover-your-eyes awful, so you have to wonder if the February numbers are variance (only 8 games) rather than progress. But maybe not, maybe this is the start of something good, or at least passable.

Yeah, it looks like it's been since about 1/25 or so that he's really stepped it up. He was a steal machine in January though - kind of surprised that he's 4th in the league in that stat at this point. Especially consider how horrible everyone's suggesting he is on D.

Steals != Good D

No, but it certainly is a positive element for him there. He's also tied for 5th best D Rating on the team, as far as guys getting piles of minutes he's 2nd behind Omer. He has the 2nd highest Defensive Win Shares on the team behind Omer. I don't watch a lot of Rocket basketball either, but the stats sure paint a different picture than what all of you guys in here are saying about him.

Quit using stats you don't understand to defend a player you don't watch.

Hey, feel free to offer some better stats.

 

[Yo Mama]

Marc J. Spears‏@SpearsNBAYahooHeat has agreed to send forward-center Dexter Pittman and a second round pick to the Grizzlies for a trade exception, sources tell Y! SportsMarc J. Spears‏@SpearsNBAYahooThe Grizzlies will get Miami's 2013 second-round pick in the trade, which would be 59th today, a source said.BLOCKBUSTER!!

Might not be a blockbuster but its a sound move by Memphis to get something. They actually could use the pick.

How much is the exemption for? I forget how these work. Could another deal be happening with the Heat as a third team or something?

I think the exemption is just for Pittman's salary - $854K. I don't see any value there since a team can always sign players to the minimum. (Right?)

Sooooo what's in it for the Heat then?

I saw a tweet somewhere that this will allow them to add a waived player at some point.

 

[DrJ]

Agreed that Lin has been inconsistent, but at the moment he is playing well. If he can keep it up then there will be something to get excited about.

Sure looks that way to me. Not getting all of the Lin hate personally.

Well, that's kind of the deal with inconsistency. There's always moments when you're playing well. The problem is what happens you're not.

Seems like he's been playing consistently well for about a month now though.

I don't catch a lot of Rockets basketball so I've only got his numbers at my disposal. So with that limitation in mind ... his February numbers have been pretty solid so far. But his January numbers are hideous, cover-your-eyes awful, so you have to wonder if the February numbers are variance (only 8 games) rather than progress. But maybe not, maybe this is the start of something good, or at least passable.

Yeah, it looks like it's been since about 1/25 or so that he's really stepped it up. He was a steal machine in January though - kind of surprised that he's 4th in the league in that stat at this point. Especially consider how horrible everyone's suggesting he is on D.

He plays a lot of minutes on the perimeter for an up-tempo team. It would be hard not to accumulate steals in that scenario. Harden's among the league leaders too, and nobody mistakes him for a defensive wiz.

He has better defensive stats in just about every category than Harden, and nobody is calling Harden a door mat. I'm not suggesting he's some great defender, but it just seems that people are a bit biased against this guy.

Harden is an awful defender, if that's where you set your bar, you are doing things wrong. You should really drop this Lin argument.

Because no one has actually made a logical argument against him other than "he sucks"? Alrighty then.

 

[TobiasFunke]

He has better defensive stats in just about every category than Harden, and nobody is calling Harden a door mat. I'm not suggesting he's some great defender, but it just seems that people are a bit biased against this guy.

People hate on athletes whose hype is totally out of proportion with their ability or achievements. It's probably been that way since the invention of sports media.

 

[Kev4029]

Marc J. Spears‏@SpearsNBAYahooHeat has agreed to send forward-center Dexter Pittman and a second round pick to the Grizzlies for a trade exception, sources tell Y! SportsMarc J. Spears‏@SpearsNBAYahooThe Grizzlies will get Miami's 2013 second-round pick in the trade, which would be 59th today, a source said.BLOCKBUSTER!!

Might not be a blockbuster but its a sound move by Memphis to get something. They actually could use the pick.

How much is the exemption for? I forget how these work. Could another deal be happening with the Heat as a third team or something?

I think the exemption is just for Pittman's salary - $854K. I don't see any value there since a team can always sign players to the minimum. (Right?)

Sooooo what's in it for the Heat then?

Saving a wee bit of cash.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

It'd be great if there was some blockbuster deal snuck in at 2:59, but alas, this seems to be going down as the worst trade deadline day I remember.

 

[DrJ]

He has better defensive stats in just about every category than Harden, and nobody is calling Harden a door mat. I'm not suggesting he's some great defender, but it just seems that people are a bit biased against this guy.

People hate on athletes whose hype is totally out of proportion with their ability or achievements. It's probably been that way since the invention of sports media.

And typically those people are over the top and entirely irrational about it. For example "he's the worst starting PG in the NBA". Just don't really understand that sentiment.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Opens up a roster slot to sign some future bought-out player.

People will laugh, but Jermaine O'neal's been playing quite well lately for the Suns. Probably says more about the state of Gortat, but O'neal has thoroghly outplayed him as of late.I think Jermaine can/will help out someone for 15-20+ minutes a game. Not knowing the cap ramifications, I'm suprised the Suns can't get a player or late pick for him.

 

[Kev4029]

Agreed that Lin has been inconsistent, but at the moment he is playing well. If he can keep it up then there will be something to get excited about.

Sure looks that way to me. Not getting all of the Lin hate personally.

Well, that's kind of the deal with inconsistency. There's always moments when you're playing well. The problem is what happens you're not.

Seems like he's been playing consistently well for about a month now though.

I don't catch a lot of Rockets basketball so I've only got his numbers at my disposal. So with that limitation in mind ... his February numbers have been pretty solid so far. But his January numbers are hideous, cover-your-eyes awful, so you have to wonder if the February numbers are variance (only 8 games) rather than progress. But maybe not, maybe this is the start of something good, or at least passable.

Yeah, it looks like it's been since about 1/25 or so that he's really stepped it up. He was a steal machine in January though - kind of surprised that he's 4th in the league in that stat at this point. Especially consider how horrible everyone's suggesting he is on D.

Steals != Good D

No, but it certainly is a positive element for him there. He's also tied for 5th best D Rating on the team, as far as guys getting piles of minutes he's 2nd behind Omer. He has the 2nd highest Defensive Win Shares on the team behind Omer. I don't watch a lot of Rocket basketball either, but the stats sure paint a different picture than what all of you guys in here are saying about him.

Quit using stats you don't understand to defend a player you don't watch.

Hey, feel free to offer some better stats.

Defensive stats without some point of reference are worthless. I can tell you that the reason his advanced d stats look good is because they are really team stats and he plays most of the time with Asik who is a very good defender and rim protector so that makes Lin's Drtg and dws look good. He's slow laterally and doesn't seem to try very hard defensively, he gets absolutely destroyed against quick pgs or strong pgs. Really there aren't many guards he can defend because he's both slow and weak. Watch a rockets game then try to defend his play, don't use some horrible defensive stat to prove a point.

 

[Kev4029]

He has better defensive stats in just about every category than Harden, and nobody is calling Harden a door mat. I'm not suggesting he's some great defender, but it just seems that people are a bit biased against this guy.

People hate on athletes whose hype is totally out of proportion with their ability or achievements. It's probably been that way since the invention of sports media.

And typically those people are over the top and entirely irrational about it. For example "he's the worst starting PG in the NBA". Just don't really understand that sentiment.

Worst starting PG. I didn't make that comment, but outside of possibly 3 or 4 other pgs, its probably true.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Blazers acquired PG Eric Maynor from the Thunder via trade.Maynor was the No. 3 point guard in Oklahoma City behind Russell Westbrook and Reggie Jackson. In Portland, he'll slide in as Damian Lillard's direct backup. But considering Lillard averages 38.5 minutes a night, there won't be a ton of opportunity. The Blazers gave up a draft pick in the deal.

Well, he's an upgrade from Nolan Smith... I don't remember a worse bench in the NBA than the Blazers have in recent memory. And that includes the teams with horrible records in the past couple years.

 

[TobiasFunke]

He has better defensive stats in just about every category than Harden, and nobody is calling Harden a door mat. I'm not suggesting he's some great defender, but it just seems that people are a bit biased against this guy.

People hate on athletes whose hype is totally out of proportion with their ability or achievements. It's probably been that way since the invention of sports media.

And typically those people are over the top and entirely irrational about it. For example "he's the worst starting PG in the NBA". Just don't really understand that sentiment.

I wouldn't necessarily say irrational. I mean, he's definitely in the bottom third. But I think people are more fired up about it because of the hype. You're not gonna get a passionate message board debate about the relative merits of Jeff Teague. Nobody cares because there's no myth to bust.

 

[Premier]

JJ to the Bucks

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Saw JJ Redick to Bucks, but now I'm not sure as it's also being reported that a 3way deal between Orlando, Milwaukee, and Atlanta fell through.

 

[Abraham]

Morrow to Dallas for d jones.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

He has better defensive stats in just about every category than Harden, and nobody is calling Harden a door mat. I'm not suggesting he's some great defender, but it just seems that people are a bit biased against this guy.

People hate on athletes whose hype is totally out of proportion with their ability or achievements. It's probably been that way since the invention of sports media.

And typically those people are over the top and entirely irrational about it. For example "he's the worst starting PG in the NBA". Just don't really understand that sentiment.

You could probably make an argument for a couple starters that he is better than but the difference would be negligible. I'll retract my statement of him being the worst starting PG and change it to being 'one of the worst' if it'll make you happy. Of course, there are probably a handful of backups out there who are much better than him (off the top of my head: Bayless, Bledsoe, Billups, Jack).