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*NBA THREAD* Abe will be missed (3 Viewers)

Can you please stop mentioning the Cavs getting torched? tia

All the talk recently is about this Len kid. So they won't be taking him....

 
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I'm having difficulty visualizing the Spurs celebrating a title on Miami's home court. They might need to play one near-perfect game out of the next two. The champs won't go away quietly.

 
Has any other team ever been favored to win the series down 3-2?
Not uncommon at all. Miami will be favored to win each of the next two games, so it's not unreasonable for them to be favored to take the series.

Without looking it up, I'm sure it's happened before.
Assuming Heat win game 6, they'd have to be favored by as much or more for a game 7 at home, right? I'd imagine the public will be all over them.

Might have to hedge with a series ML Heat and a game 6 and if necessary game 7 ML Spurs.

 
Lebron's body language is terrible when the offense runs through D Wade for 4 or 5 straight sets. Almost as if to say, "Hey Spo, why are you changing what has worked for the last 180 games?"

Ah, the saga continues for Miami...tough to win titles.

 
My brother and I took my dad to the game last night along with some buddies. Great great atmosphere.

Spurs up 17 with 3 1/2 minutes left and you would think we were down 2 the way the crowd was chanting "Defense" on every possession. The game is just never over against a team like Miami and the crowd knew it. Coyote was in rare form too.

This thing deserves 7 games and I think we will see it.

Go Spurs!

 
Last night PG play killed us. And of course Green has been on another level. The guy is just not missing. It is amazing. Heat missing lay-ups and baskets in the paint was a killer as well. When they cut it to one point in the third for about 10 seconds I thought we could pull this out....then Green....guy is just an amazing story right now.

Felt before the series started it would go 7 and still feel it will. Heat in 7. But it will be their biggest challenge yet. The Spurs are an outstanding team. Hold home court and win another title. Sounds easier said than done.

 
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No brainer? He doesn't really do much else. Averaging an assist and a bit over 3 boards through 4 games to go with his 16 points. Duncan at 15/11. Parker at 13/7. Odds are it goes to Duncan as a going away present unless someone else takes it from him assuming the Spurs win.
Duncan probably wins the voting, but Green has been the series MVP so far. He's effectively shooting 80% from the field in decent volume, playing great defense, and rebounding well when SAS goes small.Whatever Green does will never top this transcendent moment in his career, but don't let Green's shooting display blur out what a great all-around series the guy is having.
He has been the X factor but I'd hardly call him the series MVP. The shooting is the only reason he is in the discussion. He is averaging 4 boards a game now.If you want to talk about defense and rebounding, Leonard is your guy. Not to say Green is chopped liver but he isn't up to that level. Unreal shooting display and the guy has turned himself into a legit NBA player but let's not go overboard here.

 
As a basketball die-hard, I'm glad I finally got around to appreciating Tim Duncan's play a couple of years ago. nevermind all the "best player of his era" or "he's so underrated talk!" I'm talking about the simple fact that he seems to never be in the wrong position and never seems to make the wrong decision. He has actual post moves too. If you're Blake Griffin or Tristan Thompson or any other young PF and you aren't taking notes on how to play down low by watching Duncan then you are missing out.

 
TobiasFunke said:
Beerguzzler said:
I think it's over. Spurs are too much of a veteran team to let this slip away. They will come out hard game six and put it away.
Even money bet?
TobiasFunke said:
Beerguzzler said:
I think it's over. Spurs are too much of a veteran team to let this slip away. They will come out hard game six and put it away.
Even money bet?
Would you feel confident taking Miami from -115 to -135 in 7? For the gambling folks (and I'm not one of them), got to think one would have to be thinking pretty heavily about putting money on the Spurs here.

 
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TobiasFunke said:
matuski said:
badmojo1006 said:
Why was Birdman sitting on the bench last night? Was he hurt?
I was wondering this.
Hasn't been playing much all series. I assume he was in the Bulls and Pacers series to counter those teams' rebounding advantage. Spurs are not a great rebounding team so that's not a problem here.
He should be playing instead of Haslem IMO. Haslem is doing nothing out there.

 
saintfool said:
Beerguzzler said:
I think it's over. Spurs are too much of a veteran team to let this slip away. They will come out hard game six and put it away.
remind me: what happened last year against OKC with the Spurs?
Spurs got their ### handed to them...if I recall :o

Anyway....Over? nothing is over until wee decide it is....was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? (Germans? Forget it he's rolling).

In all seriousness. It so far from over.

 
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Ferris Bueller Fan said:
sporthenry said:
Ferris Bueller Fan said:
sporthenry said:
No brainer? He doesn't really do much else. Averaging an assist and a bit over 3 boards through 4 games to go with his 16 points. Duncan at 15/11. Parker at 13/7. Odds are it goes to Duncan as a going away present unless someone else takes it from him assuming the Spurs win.
Duncan probably wins the voting, but Green has been the series MVP so far. He's effectively shooting 80% from the field in decent volume, playing great defense, and rebounding well when SAS goes small.Whatever Green does will never top this transcendent moment in his career, but don't let Green's shooting display blur out what a great all-around series the guy is having.
He has been the X factor but I'd hardly call him the series MVP. The shooting is the only reason he is in the discussion. He is averaging 4 boards a game now.
Not many guys shoot an eFG% of .800 over any stretch of 53 shots. He's not just shooting well. He's shooting historically scorching hot on the game's biggest stage against a really good defensive team.

4 rebounds a game is outstanding for a guy primarily playing SG. It's the equivalent of a PF/C getting about 9 boards a game.

If you want to talk about defense and rebounding, Leonard is your guy. Not to say Green is chopped liver but he isn't up to that level. Unreal shooting display and the guy has turned himself into a legit NBA player but let's not go overboard here.
I don't recall saying that Green was playing better defense than Leonard, but acknowledging Leonard is playing great D doesn't take away from what Green is doing. SAS is an outstanding defensive team with many outstanding defenders. Leonard is doing a fantastic job on the glass, which is part of why SAS has gotten away with moving him to PF to counter MIA going small. But don't give Leonard too much credit for his defense - the whole team's primary responsibility on defense is too keep Leonard's man from scoring.
I never understand this place. I later say it is an unreal shooting display. Everyone just sort of jumps on the exact verbiage and goes from there. Regardless, the guy won't be the MVP with Duncan putting up 16/11 or TP putting up 16/6.6.

 
If the Spurs win the series, I really don't know how you can choose an MVP. Parker, Green, and Duncan all have legitimate claims on it and guys like Leonard, Neal, and Manu have all had huge impacts on the outcomes of games. This is truly one of the best team efforts I've ever seen. Last night about 4 minutes into the 3rd quarter the gave a stat that said all 5 starters had between 11 and 16 points. That is just unreal.

 
Put me down for "Danny Green's the MVP if SA wins, barring a very heroic performance from someone else in the next 2 games and even then, probably still Green"

Playing with Duncan and Parker is always a great thing, but it's not like getting open 3's is an easy thing to do (especially when you are on fire like we've never seen in the NBA finals). He's also hitting them at a 50% clip when defended.

I think MIA ends up pulling it out, but LeBron and Green seem like the most likely MVPs to me.

 
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saintfool said:
Beerguzzler said:
I think it's over. Spurs are too much of a veteran team to let this slip away. They will come out hard game six and put it away.
remind me: what happened last year against OKC with the Spurs?
Spurs got their ### handed to them...if I recall :o

Anyway....Over? nothing is over until wee decide it is....was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? (Germans? Forget it he's rolling).

In all seriousness. It so far from over.
Are you confident that Lebron won't pick and choose which halves to play during these last two games? Not sure what that was in the 2nd half last night... he looked like the 7th best player on the court through most of it. He has had some head scratching halves/games in this series.

 
saintfool said:
Beerguzzler said:
I think it's over. Spurs are too much of a veteran team to let this slip away. They will come out hard game six and put it away.
remind me: what happened last year against OKC with the Spurs?
Spurs got their ### handed to them...if I recall :o

Anyway....Over? nothing is over until wee decide it is....was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? (Germans? Forget it he's rolling).

In all seriousness. It so far from over.
Are you confident that Lebron won't pick and choose which halves to play during these last two games? Not sure what that was in the 2nd half last night... he looked like the 7th best player on the court through most of it. He has had some head scratching halves/games in this series.
The only thing I'm confident in is the opposite of whatever you think will happen. Please advise re: Game 6 prediction.

 
saintfool said:
Beerguzzler said:
I think it's over. Spurs are too much of a veteran team to let this slip away. They will come out hard game six and put it away.
remind me: what happened last year against OKC with the Spurs?
Spurs got their ### handed to them...if I recall :o

Anyway....Over? nothing is over until wee decide it is....was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? (Germans? Forget it he's rolling).

In all seriousness. It so far from over.
Are you confident that Lebron won't pick and choose which halves to play during these last two games? Not sure what that was in the 2nd half last night... he looked like the 7th best player on the court through most of it. He has had some head scratching halves/games in this series.
The only thing I'm confident in is the opposite of whatever you think will happen. Please advise re: Game 6 prediction.
MIA blowout on Tuesday, Spurs win a close one in game 7. Now you can all proceed with proper betting strategy.

 
saintfool said:
Beerguzzler said:
I think it's over. Spurs are too much of a veteran team to let this slip away. They will come out hard game six and put it away.
remind me: what happened last year against OKC with the Spurs?
Spurs got their ### handed to them...if I recall :o

Anyway....Over? nothing is over until wee decide it is....was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? (Germans? Forget it he's rolling).

In all seriousness. It so far from over.
Are you confident that Lebron won't pick and choose which halves to play during these last two games? Not sure what that was in the 2nd half last night... he looked like the 7th best player on the court through most of it. He has had some head scratching halves/games in this series.
The only thing I'm confident in is the opposite of whatever you think will happen. Please advise re: Game 6 prediction.
MIA blowout on Tuesday, Spurs win a close one in game 7. Now you can all proceed with proper betting strategy.
:thumbup:

 
I think Duncan will win MVP if SAS wins the series and I wouldn't think the voters as a group got it wrong if he does. He's the constant who makes everything else they do work. And to Duncan's credit, he's probably rooting for Green, Parker, or Leonard to win it - he seems to take great joy in watching teammates improve, make big plays, and win awards.

Still, the most consistently impressive performance in the Finals, and throughout the whole playoffs really, is Popovich's courtside interviews. He's unstoppable.
is he going to walk his soon-to-be-ex-wife down the aisle when she remarries too? maybe pay for their honeymoon while he's at it?

i am about as big a fan of timmy as you'll find outside of SA but it's a little nauseating sometimes to see how good this guy is. the half-time moment with his kids just seals it...

 
What happens with Doc Rivers if a trade with the Clippers doesn't happen? Does he just go back to coach the Celts disgruntled?

KG is an upgrade over Jordan but how long will be able to stay upright?

 
Ferris Bueller Fan said:
Britney Spears said:
Has Wade always been unwilling to shoot threes?
He's lousy at them. Didn't shoot them in college, never learned them in the pros. He's like a 29% three-point shooter for his career, and has never been close to average at shooting them in a season.This doesn't bode well for him aging gracefully, BTW. Most SGs who were effective into their mid-30s accomplished it by shooting threes well and/or wisely. Wade can't do either.
This seems like a major spacing issue for their offense. They were baiting him yesterday and sagging way into the lane.

 
Duncan will not be the reason the spurs won this series. Green's unconcious shooting in these finals is the only reason these spurs will win this. His shooting out to halfcourt has basically shredded what Miami is trying to do defensively. Not duncan, not parker, green.

As a Miami fan the only reason we will have lost this series is poor transition offense (too many turnovers on what should be layups and breakaway jams) and Green.

 
sporthenry said:
Mister CIA said:
Britney Spears said:
Lets start talking about Danny Green as finals MVP.
If the Spurs win it's a no-brainer imo. Gene Tenace²
No brainer? He doesn't really do much else. Averaging an assist and a bit over 3 boards through 4 games to go with his 16 points. Duncan at 15/11. Parker at 13/7. Odds are it goes to Duncan as a going away present unless someone else takes it from him assuming the Spurs win.
Looking back through the thread, I see that sporthenry started the anti-Green for MVP thing. Probably worth mentioning that he is a Duke fan, and Danny Green once did this. So, grain of salt.

;)

 
I don't disagree Green should be the MVP if SA wins. I just find it funny game to game how the media plays this series. So if The Heat win......who will be the MVP?

Right now the last two games Dwayne Wade has been really good. If the Heat are to win this series. Lebron has to be great.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

I have not watched or listened to any reactions from last nights game on any of the major sports shows. Are the talking heads leaving The Heat out for dead again? Or is there a decent amount of them thinking Miami at home can pull this off?

 
sporthenry said:
No brainer? He doesn't really do much else. Averaging an assist and a bit over 3 boards through 4 games to go with his 16 points. Duncan at 15/11. Parker at 13/7. Odds are it goes to Duncan as a going away present unless someone else takes it from him assuming the Spurs win.
Looking back through the thread, I see that sporthenry started the anti-Green for MVP thing. Probably worth mentioning that he is a Duke fan, and Danny Green once did this. So, grain of salt.

;)
Yeah, Ferris already posted something along those lines. But I'm glad you are bringing some quality posts into the discussion.ETA: And I actually don't mind Danny Green. Guy has carved out a nice role, worked hard going from D-league to a big contributor in the finals, but he isn't any more valuable than TP or Duncan at this point. If he has another 25 point game to close out the series, that might change.

 
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I don't disagree Green should be the MVP if SA wins. I just find it funny game to game how the media plays this series. So if The Heat win......who will be the MVP?

Right now the last two games Dwayne Wade has been really good. If the Heat are to win this series. Lebron has to be great.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

I have not watched or listened to any reactions from last nights game on any of the major sports shows. Are the talking heads leaving The Heat out for dead again? Or is there a decent amount of them thinking Miami at home can pull this off?
I'd say they're generally leaning Miami.

 

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