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[Gr00vus]

Saw the replay of the Hawks/Pacers scuffle. George needs to be suspended.

Surprised no cares about this, I thought it would be a big deal (or maybe no one cares about Indy?).

I didn't get a chance to see it. What happened?

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Saw the replay of the Hawks/Pacers scuffle. George needs to be suspended.

Surprised no cares about this, I thought it would be a big deal (or maybe no one cares about Indy?).

I didn't get a chance to see it. What happened?

George (and Butler) takes a couple steps onto the court during a scuffle. Automatic suspension.

 

[Timmay]

Saw the replay of the Hawks/Pacers scuffle. George needs to be suspended.

Surprised no cares about this, I thought it would be a big deal (or maybe no one cares about Indy?).

I didn't get a chance to see it. What happened?

George (and Butler) takes a couple steps onto the court during a scuffle. Automatic suspension.

That would be a shame if George is suspended.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Saw the replay of the Hawks/Pacers scuffle. George needs to be suspended.

Surprised no cares about this, I thought it would be a big deal (or maybe no one cares about Indy?).

I didn't get a chance to see it. What happened?

George (and Butler) takes a couple steps onto the court during a scuffle. Automatic suspension.

That would be a shame if George is suspended.

The league cannot come off looking good no matter what they do. He needs to be suspended and the rule needs to be changed in the off-season.

 

[Freelove]

"During an altercation, all players not participating in the game must remain in the immediate vicinity of their bench."

Seems to me they've got plenty of leeway to interpret, here. Doubt they bring down the hammer in a way that could potentially alter the entire playoff landscape.

 

[GroveDiesel]

Saw the replay of the Hawks/Pacers scuffle. George needs to be suspended.

Surprised no cares about this, I thought it would be a big deal (or maybe no one cares about Indy?).

I didn't get a chance to see it. What happened?

George (and Butler) takes a couple steps onto the court during a scuffle. Automatic suspension.

It's only a suspension if the NBA deems that they left the "immediate vicinity of the bench."

One shoe onto the court hardly seems like it's outside the immediate vicinity.

Butler was further onto the court and may see a suspension, but I doubt George does.

The Hawks should probably be concerned though as Antic was much further off the bench than Butler or George.

https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/paul-george-steps-onto-court-during-mike-scott-george-hill-scuffle-in-game-6--could-game-7-suspension-be-coming---video-041837187.html

 

[Cliff Clavin]

"During an altercation, all players not participating in the game must remain in the immediate vicinity of their bench."

Seems to me they've got plenty of leeway to interpret, here. Doubt they bring down the hammer in a way that could potentially alter the entire playoff landscape.

The Phoenix Suns and New York Knicks disagree.

 

[GroveDiesel]

I can't think of a time anyone got suspended for being one foot onto the floor under this rule. All the other guys were much further onto the court

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Saw the replay of the Hawks/Pacers scuffle. George needs to be suspended.

Surprised no cares about this, I thought it would be a big deal (or maybe no one cares about Indy?).

I didn't get a chance to see it. What happened?

George (and Butler) takes a couple steps onto the court during a scuffle. Automatic suspension.

It's only a suspension if the NBA deems that they left the "immediate vicinity of the bench."

One shoe onto the court hardly seems like it's outside the immediate vicinity.

Butler was further onto the court and may see a suspension, but I doubt George does.

The Hawks should probably be concerned though as Antic was much further off the bench than Butler or George.

https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/paul-george-steps-onto-court-during-mike-scott-george-hill-scuffle-in-game-6--could-game-7-suspension-be-coming---video-041837187.html

George was about to step on the 3 point line when he was restrained. Pretty sure that is leaving the immediate vicinity. I don't think it can be much more clear. He drops his towel and heads straight towards the altercation before being restrained.

Haven't seen any video of Antic, but if he left the bench then he should be suspended as well.

 

[Ghost Rider]

If Stern were still commish, it would be an automatic suspension, but it remains to be seen if Silver will be as "no tolerance" on this issue as Stern was.

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

I can't think of a time anyone got suspended for being one foot onto the floor under this rule. All the other guys were much further onto the court

Didn't Patrick Ewing get suspended from a playoff game for walking in the opposite direction from the fight?

 

[GroveDiesel]

Saw the replay of the Hawks/Pacers scuffle. George needs to be suspended.

Surprised no cares about this, I thought it would be a big deal (or maybe no one cares about Indy?).

I didn't get a chance to see it. What happened?

George (and Butler) takes a couple steps onto the court during a scuffle. Automatic suspension.

It's only a suspension if the NBA deems that they left the "immediate vicinity of the bench."One shoe onto the court hardly seems like it's outside the immediate vicinity.

Butler was further onto the court and may see a suspension, but I doubt George does.

The Hawks should probably be concerned though as Antic was much further off the bench than Butler or George.

https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/paul-george-steps-onto-court-during-mike-scott-george-hill-scuffle-in-game-6--could-game-7-suspension-be-coming---video-041837187.html

George was about to step on the 3 point line when he was restrained. Pretty sure that is leaving the immediate vicinity. I don't think it can be much more clear. He drops his towel and heads straight towards the altercation before being restrained.

Haven't seen any video of Antic, but if he left the bench then he should be suspended as well.

George had one foot on the court.

All previous suspensions for this, the players were 10+ feet onto the court.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Saw the replay of the Hawks/Pacers scuffle. George needs to be suspended.

Surprised no cares about this, I thought it would be a big deal (or maybe no one cares about Indy?).

I didn't get a chance to see it. What happened?

George (and Butler) takes a couple steps onto the court during a scuffle. Automatic suspension.

It's only a suspension if the NBA deems that they left the "immediate vicinity of the bench."One shoe onto the court hardly seems like it's outside the immediate vicinity.

Butler was further onto the court and may see a suspension, but I doubt George does.

The Hawks should probably be concerned though as Antic was much further off the bench than Butler or George.

https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/paul-george-steps-onto-court-during-mike-scott-george-hill-scuffle-in-game-6--could-game-7-suspension-be-coming---video-041837187.html

George was about to step on the 3 point line when he was restrained. Pretty sure that is leaving the immediate vicinity. I don't think it can be much more clear. He drops his towel and heads straight towards the altercation before being restrained.

Haven't seen any video of Antic, but if he left the bench then he should be suspended as well.

George had one foot on the court.

All previous suspensions for this, the players were 10+ feet onto the court.

I think you need your vision checked. He clearly has two feet inbounds and is about to step on the 3 point line before being restrained. If he was 10 feet onto the court he'd be in the middle of the fight.

 

[GroveDiesel]

I can't think of a time anyone got suspended for being one foot onto the floor under this rule. All the other guys were much further onto the court

Didn't Patrick Ewing get suspended from a playoff game for walking in the opposite direction from the fight?

Ewing stood at half court and watched.

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

I can't think of a time anyone got suspended for being one foot onto the floor under this rule. All the other guys were much further onto the court

Didn't Patrick Ewing get suspended from a playoff game for walking in the opposite direction from the fight?

Ewing stood at half court and watched.

Thanks, I knew it was something like that.

 

[Timmay]

Does the commissioner have a deadline where he has to make the decision on George by then or could it linger into tomorrow before tipoff?

 

[Freelove]

Saw the replay of the Hawks/Pacers scuffle. George needs to be suspended.

Surprised no cares about this, I thought it would be a big deal (or maybe no one cares about Indy?).

I didn't get a chance to see it. What happened?

George (and Butler) takes a couple steps onto the court during a scuffle. Automatic suspension.

It's only a suspension if the NBA deems that they left the "immediate vicinity of the bench."One shoe onto the court hardly seems like it's outside the immediate vicinity.

Butler was further onto the court and may see a suspension, but I doubt George does.

The Hawks should probably be concerned though as Antic was much further off the bench than Butler or George.

https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/paul-george-steps-onto-court-during-mike-scott-george-hill-scuffle-in-game-6--could-game-7-suspension-be-coming---video-041837187.html

George was about to step on the 3 point line when he was restrained. Pretty sure that is leaving the immediate vicinity. I don't think it can be much more clear. He drops his towel and heads straight towards the altercation before being restrained.

Haven't seen any video of Antic, but if he left the bench then he should be suspended as well.

George had one foot on the court.

All previous suspensions for this, the players were 10+ feet onto the court.

I think you need your vision checked. He clearly has two feet inbounds and is about to step on the 3 point line before being restrained. If he was 10 feet onto the court he'd be in the middle of the fight.

And he was sixteen inches from where he was standing by the bench when the play began, with a coach between him and the action, and doing nothing more than sauntering. I think you'd have to stretch pretty hard to make a case he did leave the immediate vicinity. Hardly "automatic," and not even close to the kind of letter-of-the-law slam dunk the Ewing/Houston fiasco brought about.

I don't think either team matters at this point, but I seriously don't see anything happening here.

The only travesty would be if they ding Butler but leave George alone, IMO.

 

[Kev4029]

Is it me or would mike dantoni have a little success with his offense using players like Ricky Rubio and Kevin love? Would he be a Minnesota candidate? Less glaring spotlight then his last two jobs for sure.

Rubio can't shoot though.

It'd be interesting to see what he could do with the Warriors. I don't think he'd get them farther along in terms of winning due to his inability to coach D, but the scoring would be off the charts.

I think George Karl would be an ideal fit for Golden State.

 

[thecatch]

Someone tweeted this morning that Thorn has decided to give people more leeway when they are within a couple steps of the bench. Doesn't sound like anything is going to come of this.

 

[No. 16]

Great win by the Dubs. Excited for a game 7. What's lost in all this crap with Sterling and the superstar status of Paul and Griffin is that the Dubs are doing all this without Bogut.

He's definitely in the top 3 defensive big men and on offense we miss his killer screens.

Thank God Mark Jackson still has Iggy, Draymond, and Klay to use on defense.

 

[thecatch]

Is it me or would mike dantoni have a little success with his offense using players like Ricky Rubio and Kevin love? Would he be a Minnesota candidate? Less glaring spotlight then his last two jobs for sure.

Rubio can't shoot though.

It'd be interesting to see what he could do with the Warriors. I don't think he'd get them farther along in terms of winning due to his inability to coach D, but the scoring would be off the charts.

I think George Karl would be an ideal fit for Golden State.

Competition like this is why Washington should have fired Wittman and hired Karl months ago.

 

[Gr00vus]

Great win by the Dubs. Excited for a game 7. What's lost in all this crap with Sterling and the superstar status of Paul and Griffin is that the Dubs are doing all this without Bogut.

He's definitely in the top 3 defensive big men and on offense we miss his killer screens.

Thank God Mark Jackson still has Iggy, Draymond, and Klay to use on defense.

Except for Marv Albert mentioning it about every five minutes last night you mean, particularly after O'Neil got hurt?

 

[No. 16]

Great win by the Dubs. Excited for a game 7. What's lost in all this crap with Sterling and the superstar status of Paul and Griffin is that the Dubs are doing all this without Bogut.

He's definitely in the top 3 defensive big men and on offense we miss his killer screens.

Thank God Mark Jackson still has Iggy, Draymond, and Klay to use on defense.

Except for Marv Albert mentioning it about every five minutes last night you mean, particularly after O'Neil got hurt?

Missed that since I was at a bar that was playing the local feed. Even then it hasn't gotten much press from the national media.

 

[Gr00vus]

Great win by the Dubs. Excited for a game 7. What's lost in all this crap with Sterling and the superstar status of Paul and Griffin is that the Dubs are doing all this without Bogut.

He's definitely in the top 3 defensive big men and on offense we miss his killer screens.

Thank God Mark Jackson still has Iggy, Draymond, and Klay to use on defense.

Except for Marv Albert mentioning it about every five minutes last night you mean, particularly after O'Neil got hurt?

Missed that since I was at a bar that was playing the local feed. Even then it hasn't gotten much press from the national media.

As a pseudo Bucks fan, I guess I'm just used to Bogut being hurt all the time, so it doesn't seem that noteworthy.

 

[No. 16]

Is it me or would mike dantoni have a little success with his offense using players like Ricky Rubio and Kevin love? Would he be a Minnesota candidate? Less glaring spotlight then his last two jobs for sure.

Rubio can't shoot though.

It'd be interesting to see what he could do with the Warriors. I don't think he'd get them farther along in terms of winning due to his inability to coach D, but the scoring would be off the charts.

I think George Karl would be an ideal fit for Golden State.

I don't know if Iggy would want to play for Karl again.

Hoiberg and Kerr are the top choices. Kerr seems like a solid choice. I agree with his commentary far more than I ever did with Jackson.

If the NBA worked like the NFL.... I would love to keep Jackson as "head coach" and the team hire an "offensive coordinator", but from the sounds of it I doubt Jackson's ego won't let that happen. The players love Jackson and play hard for him and Jackson has kept every single player from Curry down to Speights involved and willing to play hard, but the offense is relies on too much isolation for a team that has great passers, shooters, and basketball IQ.

 

[Short Corner]

More ticky-tacks on Lee and Green just like the rest of the series. Jordan shoves Lee under the basket and Lee gets rung up.

I was just gonna ask if it's been reffed like this all game. Didn't catch the first half, but in the last 4 possessions they called goaltending on Lee when Jordan touched the ball on the rim. They called a ticky tack foul on Green and then they called Thompson for a foul after Deandre shoves Lee under the basket on a rebound. Don't like it.

It hasn't been like this all series. Guys are hacking Griffin every time he gets the ball with few calls.

Griffin is a massive flopper (head jerk on every drive pretty much), so I think there is a bit of boy who cried wolf going on.

True, but he does get the crud beat out of him legitimately (with not so many calls) as well.

He pulls too many ##### moves and it is catching up to him. Example, his hip lock move where he flops and pulls the opponent on top of him is just gross. And he does that #### ALL the time.

 

[Short Corner]

Is it me or would mike dantoni have a little success with his offense using players like Ricky Rubio and Kevin love? Would he be a Minnesota candidate? Less glaring spotlight then his last two jobs for sure.

Rubio can't shoot though.

It'd be interesting to see what he could do with the Warriors. I don't think he'd get them farther along in terms of winning due to his inability to coach D, but the scoring would be off the charts.

Jackson can't coach defense or offense and they seem to be doing well.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Saw the replay of the Hawks/Pacers scuffle. George needs to be suspended.

Surprised no cares about this, I thought it would be a big deal (or maybe no one cares about Indy?).

I didn't get a chance to see it. What happened?

George (and Butler) takes a couple steps onto the court during a scuffle. Automatic suspension.

It's only a suspension if the NBA deems that they left the "immediate vicinity of the bench."One shoe onto the court hardly seems like it's outside the immediate vicinity.

Butler was further onto the court and may see a suspension, but I doubt George does.

The Hawks should probably be concerned though as Antic was much further off the bench than Butler or George.

https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/paul-george-steps-onto-court-during-mike-scott-george-hill-scuffle-in-game-6--could-game-7-suspension-be-coming---video-041837187.html

George was about to step on the 3 point line when he was restrained. Pretty sure that is leaving the immediate vicinity. I don't think it can be much more clear. He drops his towel and heads straight towards the altercation before being restrained.

Haven't seen any video of Antic, but if he left the bench then he should be suspended as well.

George had one foot on the court.

All previous suspensions for this, the players were 10+ feet onto the court.

I think you need your vision checked. He clearly has two feet inbounds and is about to step on the 3 point line before being restrained. If he was 10 feet onto the court he'd be in the middle of the fight.

And he was sixteen inches from where he was standing by the bench when the play began, with a coach between him and the action, and doing nothing more than sauntering. I think you'd have to stretch pretty hard to make a case he did leave the immediate vicinity. Hardly "automatic," and not even close to the kind of letter-of-the-law slam dunk the Ewing/Houston fiasco brought about.

I don't think either team matters at this point, but I seriously don't see anything happening here.

The only travesty would be if they ding Butler but leave George alone, IMO.

I guess we interpret 'immediate vicinity' differently. I see him leaving the bench and coming onto the court as leaving the immediate vicinity especially when the altercation is taking place right there.

I think its a terrible rule that needs to be changed and don't want a series altered because of it but the NBA has set a precedence for it. They absolutely screwed the Suns on with the same rule so who it is and what game it is should not matter.

And yes, it would be a terrible joke if they suspend Butler and not George.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

If Stern were still commish, it would be an automatic suspension, but it remains to be seen if Silver will be as "no tolerance" on this issue as Stern was.

Suspended for life, contracts revoked.

 

[pizzatyme]

I don't think anyone is allowed to ever question calls in this thread. Something about the bylaws say the calls even out over time or some such...

As you have demonstrated time and again, people are welcome to post any stupid thing they want. It's just that others are equally free to call out stupidity.

Well, if there's an authority on stupid, you're it. Thanks for your input once again!

 

[TobiasFunke]

I don't think anyone is allowed to ever question calls in this thread. Something about the bylaws say the calls even out over time or some such...

As you have demonstrated time and again, people are welcome to post any stupid thing they want. It's just that others are equally free to call out stupidity.

Well, if there's an authority on stupid, you're it. Thanks for your input once again!

No problem. You're the guy that couldn't understand why people considered the Heat favorites over the Pacers in the East a couple weeks ago, right?

 

[pizzatyme]

You might want to double check those posts. Big difference what was said and what you're suggesting here. Thanks again.

 

[TobiasFunke]

How is the #1 seed CLEARLY weaker than the #2 seed?

Even record head-to-head

Better conference record

Went to a game 7 last year

I'd say pretty even. But I am a

You're right, you pretty much nailed it here. So silly that someone suggested that the #1 seed was clearly weaker than the #2 seed. Glad you put them in their place- pretty even sounds about right. My apologies.

 

[Ghost Rider]

How is the #1 seed CLEARLY weaker than the #2 seed?

Even record head-to-head

Better conference record

Went to a game 7 last year

I'd say pretty even. But I am a

You're right, you pretty much nailed it here. So silly that someone suggested that the #1 seed was clearly weaker than the #2 seed. Glad you put them in their place- pretty even sounds about right. My apologies.

 

[Jayrod]

Warriors got two BIG calls down the stretch.

1) Griffin's 6th on Iggy's 4 pt play. He just touched him on the hip. I see refs let that go all the time.

2) Reddick's 6th on that block call. That is about as 50/50 a call as there is. JJ is sliding, but Barnes lowers his shoulder into his chest.

Those are 2 tough breaks that lead to 3 points in a 1 posession game.

Griffins 6th has been a POE for over a decade. An elbow/knee/hip tap on a jump shooter gets called more often than not.

Reddick was going down before the contact, you can tell by the way he lands. If he waits and takes in the chest he will slide back, not go splat straight down.

A touch is not the same as a tap.....and they let it go constantly. I think the reason Blake got nailed was the poor angle the official had on the play and the way Iggy went down like he was shot by a sniper.

And how a player lands has nothing to do with the contact that was made, how it was made and who initiated it (what determines a foul).

In both cases, the refs got caught reading the reactions and not being able to see the actual contact to determine the foul. Griffin's foul was ticky tack and Reddick's was truly 50/50.

The only truly egregious call was the absurd foul on Lee when Jordan was behind him on the rebound. Not sure what the heck the ref was looking at there.

 

[Jayrod]

No way should George be suspended.....he didn't do enough to warrant any discipline.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

No way should George be suspended.....he didn't do enough to warrant any discipline.

Neither did Amare, Diaw or Ewing.

 

[Ghost Rider]

No way should George be suspended.....he didn't do enough to warrant any discipline.

Neither did Amare, Diaw or Ewing.

Exactly. Those Suns players were further away from the altercation involving Nash and Horry than George was last night.

 

[Short Corner]

Warriors got two BIG calls down the stretch.

1) Griffin's 6th on Iggy's 4 pt play. He just touched him on the hip. I see refs let that go all the time.

2) Reddick's 6th on that block call. That is about as 50/50 a call as there is. JJ is sliding, but Barnes lowers his shoulder into his chest.

Those are 2 tough breaks that lead to 3 points in a 1 posession game.

Griffins 6th has been a POE for over a decade. An elbow/knee/hip tap on a jump shooter gets called more often than not.

Reddick was going down before the contact, you can tell by the way he lands. If he waits and takes in the chest he will slide back, not go splat straight down.

A touch is not the same as a tap.....and they let it go constantly.

You should try it in a rec league sometime, it's awesome. The best part is if you nail it once you can mess up the guys shot just by getting close as he will adjust vertically in anticipation of the next one. That being said, a touch can be just as effective as a tap and is the reason it is called as often as it is.

 

[Jayrod]

Warriors got two BIG calls down the stretch.

1) Griffin's 6th on Iggy's 4 pt play. He just touched him on the hip. I see refs let that go all the time.

2) Reddick's 6th on that block call. That is about as 50/50 a call as there is. JJ is sliding, but Barnes lowers his shoulder into his chest.

Those are 2 tough breaks that lead to 3 points in a 1 posession game.

Griffins 6th has been a POE for over a decade. An elbow/knee/hip tap on a jump shooter gets called more often than not.

Reddick was going down before the contact, you can tell by the way he lands. If he waits and takes in the chest he will slide back, not go splat straight down.

A touch is not the same as a tap.....and they let it go constantly.

You should try it in a rec league sometime, it's awesome. The best part is if you nail it once you can mess up the guys shot just by getting close as he will adjust vertically in anticipation of the next one. That being said, a touch can be just as effective as a tap and is the reason it is called as often as it is.

I've played a ton of basketball in my day....HS, college, pickup and rec leagues. No amount of touching my leg while I shoot has ever effected my shot.

Now a backhand nut shot on the other hand..... :X

 

[Short Corner]

Warriors got two BIG calls down the stretch.

1) Griffin's 6th on Iggy's 4 pt play. He just touched him on the hip. I see refs let that go all the time.

2) Reddick's 6th on that block call. That is about as 50/50 a call as there is. JJ is sliding, but Barnes lowers his shoulder into his chest.

Those are 2 tough breaks that lead to 3 points in a 1 posession game.

Griffins 6th has been a POE for over a decade. An elbow/knee/hip tap on a jump shooter gets called more often than not.

Reddick was going down before the contact, you can tell by the way he lands. If he waits and takes in the chest he will slide back, not go splat straight down.

A touch is not the same as a tap.....and they let it go constantly.

You should try it in a rec league sometime, it's awesome. The best part is if you nail it once you can mess up the guys shot just by getting close as he will adjust vertically in anticipation of the next one. That being said, a touch can be just as effective as a tap and is the reason it is called as often as it is.

I've played a ton of basketball in my day....HS, college, pickup and rec leagues. No amount of touching my leg while I shoot has ever effected my shot.

Now a backhand nut shot on the other hand..... :X

I have never tried the leg, don't wanna push too hard and jack the guys leg on the landing. The elbow is easier but harder to get away with.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Well isn't this cute. The Washington Harry Potters get pretty stickers every time they try real hard!

 

[Freelove]

No way should George be suspended.....he didn't do enough to warrant any discipline.

Neither did Amare, Diaw or Ewing.

Exactly. Those Suns players were further away from the altercation involving Nash and Horry than George was last night.

That's because what happened last night happened right by George's bench, prompting him to shuffle a tiny bit from where he'd been standing. Diaw and Stoudemire were rung up because the league determined they'd gone 20-25 feet from their benches. (ETA: See story here for confirmation -- http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs2007/news/story?id=2871615 )

Really just seems like you're hoping for a suspension where none is warranted.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Well isn't this cute. The Washington Harry Potters get pretty stickers every time they try real hard!

They probably gave John Wall a few extra points because his mom brought the orange slices for halftime.

They've actually had that thing for years but never let people take pictures. Apparently all it takes is one brief spell of legitimacy and relevance and all bets are off.

 

[GroveDiesel]

No way should George be suspended.....he didn't do enough to warrant any discipline.

Neither did Amare, Diaw or Ewing.

Exactly. Those Suns players were further away from the altercation involving Nash and Horry than George was last night.

That's because what happened last night happened right by George's bench, prompting him to shuffle a tiny bit from where he'd been standing. Diaw and Stoudemire were rung up because the league determined they'd gone 20-25 feet from their benches. (ETA: See story here for confirmation -- http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs2007/news/story?id=2871615 )

Really just seems like you're hoping for a suspension where none is warranted.

He's a Heat fan that knows the Pacers are still a major threat to Miami.

 

[Ghost Rider]

I'm a Heat fan? Okay.

 

[GroveDiesel]

I'm a Heat fan? Okay.

Sorry, I missed that it was you that had replied. I was referencing Cliff.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

I'm a Heat fan? Okay.

Sorry, I missed that it was you that had replied. I was referencing Cliff.

Since when am I a Heat fan?

 

[CurlyNight]

Sterling- "I wish I had just paid her off" was his response rather than apologizing.... niiiiice. Then you have V whatever looking like darth vader in pink or black. He's battling prostate cancer. Maybe he'll keep off soon...

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

Thread title confuses me since Pacers aren't playing tonight.