Abraham
Footballguy
I don't know, but it would create some trouble in the curly night house if he only had one favorite team.
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Balco
Footballguy
pollardsvision
Footballguy
That's fine. I'm over that trade anyway (I guess Utah is the only team that would do that).
I'm ready to just go throw $50 mill. at Lance.
I'm ready to just go throw $50 mill. at Lance.
Abraham
Footballguy
What if it allowed them to shed Jennings and/or mayo?
Henson. Illyasova, sanders. Exum, Gordon and room to sign someone like lance or Lowry.
pollardsvision
Footballguy
I don't think it's that crazy for them.
If this is really an 8-player draft, 5 and 9 gives them a shot at 2 of them when some stupid team takes Buckets in the top 8.
And it's DET that's looking to shed Jennings now, btw.
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Well Jennings is on the pistons.
Abraham
Footballguy
pollardsvision
Footballguy
I wonder exactly what Utah would be willing to give as far as future picks (taking CHA out of the equation).
Seems like MIL could find a way to really fleece them here.
What if Utah offered the #5 (#35 too if MIL wants it), along with unprotected 1sts in 2015 and 2017? Take Mayo's contract too. MIL say no to that?
Seems like MIL could find a way to really fleece them here.
What if Utah offered the #5 (#35 too if MIL wants it), along with unprotected 1sts in 2015 and 2017? Take Mayo's contract too. MIL say no to that?
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Abraham
Footballguy
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
No.
You have three of the best prospects staring you in the face.
Go look at the last couple NBA drafts.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_NBA_draft
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_NBA_draft
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_NBA_draft
If they dont get the #1 overall in those drafts, it just isnt worth it.
The Utah #5 this year is likely worth way more then two future #1s, because you have good talent this year.
Its so good, that you are willing to ship the #5 in a deep draft and two more 1st rounders to get at these 3 elite prospects.
pollardsvision
Footballguy
The 2017 pick could be nice. Klay could be gone by then. They could be a Curry and/or Bogut injury from being really horrible in the West.
This the Warriors. They're are feeling so good about themselves that they just fired a coach after a 51 win season. Disaster is probably around the corner.
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
How much does Heyward want?
MCW Stauskus(10)
Heyward
Young
Vonleah(6) Gordon (9)
Noel
would have to be considered.
pollardsvision
Footballguy
I think a PHI-Utah deal could make all kinds of sense, but you guys are forgetting something with that particular deal.....Hornets would want some sort of compensation for the #9 pick.
Wait, Jordan didn't trade it away last night, did he? I'll go check.
Wait, Jordan didn't trade it away last night, did he? I'll go check.
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Juxtatarot
Footballguy
How is a restricted free agent going to be signed and traded in a draft day deal?
Kev4029
Footballguy
Pretty sure knight is still on his cheap rookie deal. He'll make a solid backup combo guard, no need to get rid of him.
pollardsvision
Footballguy
Enough nitpicking. We must put our heads together and figure out a way to get Jabari Parker to Utah.
Premier
Footballguy
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Clearly the better team, clearly 
No. 16
Footballguy
Hey, hey. Just cause your team is terrible no reason to bring me down with you.FWIW, this is a new ownership group and so far they've done everything opposite of the previous regime. The Dubs are headed on the right path.
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pollardsvision
Footballguy
I like those Warriors. They're no Jackson-Davis era Warriors, but I do wish them all the best (well, at least until Curry becomes a FA and it's time to come home).
CurlyNight
Footballguy
No worries. I have plenty of players I love. We'll just have to see which team on the east has most of them.
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
the one with the best record, i would assume
sports_fan
Footballguy
Joerger decides to stay with Memphis. Wolves fans suffer yet another disappointment
http://www.startribune.com/sports/blogs/260613911.html
http://www.startribune.com/sports/blogs/260613911.html
Encyclopedia Brown
Footballguy
I wonder if this means Minnesota is certain to deal Kevin Love. That position becomes much less desirable without Love as the centerpiece.
CurlyNight
Footballguy
Wow, poor Fish......
pollardsvision
Footballguy
Or it could mean the opposite.
If there's a franchise that's dumb enough NOT to trade Love, it's MIN. This is a fine spot for them. The star said he's walking in 12 months. It just so happens that it coincides with a really good draft. They could really re-tool here and pick up some pieces to really start rebuilding around.
If I'm Joeger, and the MIN front office tells me they don't plan on trading Love, I'm out.
It probably doesn't mean much on the Love front either way though.
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CurlyNight
Footballguy
Mister CIA
Footballguy
Patty Mills called for a foul in the act of shooting a three-pointer = SternStench.
Mister CIA
Footballguy
Refs firmly in control of this game.
CurlyNight
Footballguy
I think Pop will retire when the elder key players do. I don't see him building up from scratch. He just always looks so tired.
Routilla
Footballguy
Gotta keep OKC from being swept. Conference finals sweeps are bad for business.
saintfool
Dead sexy
He's always said that he'll retire with the Big 3. He might go with Timmy and Manu but I could see him sticking around for Tony.
pollardsvision
Footballguy
I was looking at the overall prospect grades at nbadraft.net and it's nuts.
CHA's pick at #9 is so wide open. There will be 16 prospects available at #9 (assuming Gordon or Buckets goes #8 after the big 7) that have a grade between 92-95.
It's a near certainty that a couple players they consider at #9 will still be available at #24. It's also very likely that the guy they take #24 has a higher grade than whoever they take at #9. They are looking at a handful of guys with a 92 grade at #9 (Stauskas, Gordon/Buckets, Young), and a handful of 93's will be available much later (Ennis, Warren, Early, Robinson, Napier, Anderson, Payton with a 94 grade).
Obviously, those grades are far from gospel and the actual draft surely will look far different than mocks, but clearly, they are seeing a massive number of guys of similar quality.
CHA's pick at #9 is so wide open. There will be 16 prospects available at #9 (assuming Gordon or Buckets goes #8 after the big 7) that have a grade between 92-95.
It's a near certainty that a couple players they consider at #9 will still be available at #24. It's also very likely that the guy they take #24 has a higher grade than whoever they take at #9. They are looking at a handful of guys with a 92 grade at #9 (Stauskas, Gordon/Buckets, Young), and a handful of 93's will be available much later (Ennis, Warren, Early, Robinson, Napier, Anderson, Payton with a 94 grade).
Obviously, those grades are far from gospel and the actual draft surely will look far different than mocks, but clearly, they are seeing a massive number of guys of similar quality.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
I hope not, that would be a terrible series... OKC would get owned.metoo said:
pollardsvision
Footballguy
Anybody think the Suns would give the 14, 27, and the 2015 Lakers pick (5 protected in '15, 3 protected in '16-17, unprotected in '18) to move up to 9?
Think the Bulls would give 16 and 19 for the 9?
Let's say Gordon drops to 9 (decent chance for that it seems).
Think the Bulls would give 16 and 19 for the 9?
Let's say Gordon drops to 9 (decent chance for that it seems).
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Scruff Mcgruff
Footballguy
http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/miamiheat/post/_/id/14698/dan-crawford-the-heat-and-the-1-9-percent
Guess who's reffing tonight's game...
Lebron advances. Silver has made the call.
Guess who's reffing tonight's game...
Lebron advances. Silver has made the call.
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Britney Spears
guest speaker
Sterling?http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/miamiheat/post/_/id/14698/dan-crawford-the-heat-and-the-1-9-percent
Guess who's reffing tonight's game...
Lebron advances. Sterling has made the call.
the moops
Footballguy
In order to move up into the top 10, it takes a lot more than just a couple mid to late teen picks. This draft seems to have two main tiers that take you to about pick 10. A few teams may have a couple different guys in the bottom of that second tier, but pick 14/16/19, etc. are in a whole different stratosphere.
Scruff Mcgruff
Footballguy
WoopsieSterling?http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/miamiheat/post/_/id/14698/dan-crawford-the-heat-and-the-1-9-percent
Guess who's reffing tonight's game...
Lebron advances. Sterling has made the call.
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
pollardsvision
Footballguy
Maybe, but I'm not so sure those 1st 2 tiers don't stop at Pick 7 with the downgrade from 9 to 16 or so not being incredibly steep.
I'm not terribly excited about Gordon. I could get behind Stauskas, but there's no doubt he's going to be an atrocious defender.
I think I'd rather have Young or Hood at 14 than Stauskas at 9 if it meant getting the 27 and that Lakers pick. Who knows what happens with the Lakers pick, but they need something pretty big to happen for it not to be a lottery pick. Hell, Stauskas could even be there at 14.
pollardsvision
Footballguy
I'm on the other line with PHX right now, but if they won't give up the Lakers pick, we're in.
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