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pollardsvision
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TobiasFunke
Footballguy
You might be better off. Ariza is a nice asset but his value was significantly inflated by John Wall, as explained here.Well ####. Lance it is then.
Of course there's the uncomfortable situation you're put in rooting for a guy like Stephenson, that's no picnic either.
Pitch Deng, I guess?
pollardsvision
Footballguy
I'd say most CHA fans are against getting Stephenson*. Him being a ####head doesn't bother me, but I wouldn't fault Cho for passing on him, especially the closer he gets to requiring a max offer. As a player, he's really exactly what CHA desperately needs. I'd love it if his being an ####### created a discount, but I'm sure we won't get so lucky.You might be better off. Ariza is a nice asset but his value was significantly inflated by John Wall, as explained here.Well ####. Lance it is then.
Of course there's the uncomfortable situation you're put in rooting for a guy like Stephenson, that's no picnic either.
Pitch Deng, I guess?
*Of course, many seem to be under the impression that Afflalo could be had by just swapping the 9th and 12th draft picks. Some seem to be under the impression that Klay could be had with an equally ridiculous deal.
I'm not terribly opposed to Deng, but I think I'd rather just stand pat if he's the only option. Making a big expenditure on a guy that's 28 and doesn't really spread the floor like we need just doesn't make much sense to me.
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TobiasFunke
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Boy, that team is in good shape moving forward.I'd say most CHA fans are against getting Stephenson*. Him being a ####head doesn't bother me, but I wouldn't fault Cho for passing on him, especially the closer he gets to requiring a max offer. As a player, he's really exactly what CHA desperately needs. I'd love it if his being an ####### created a discount, but I'm sure we won't get so lucky.You might be better off. Ariza is a nice asset but his value was significantly inflated by John Wall, as explained here.Well ####. Lance it is then.
Of course there's the uncomfortable situation you're put in rooting for a guy like Stephenson, that's no picnic either.
Pitch Deng, I guess?
*Of course, many seem to be under the impression that Afflalo could be had by just swapping the 9th and 12th draft picks. Some seem to be under the impression that Klay could be had with an equally ridiculous deal.
I'm not terribly opposed to Deng, but I think I'd rather just stand pat if he's the only option. Making a big expenditure on a guy that's 28 and doesn't really spread the floor like we need just doesn't make much sense to me.
Can we transfer a team from the Southeast Division to the Atlantic Division to balance things out? The Wiz happily volunteer.
Abraham
Footballguy
They aren't that young and impressionable. Ben Gordon and Luke Ridnour both have lots of experience.
Well, I take it back then. In Gordon and Ridnour they certainly have a solid group of savvy and strong willed veterans who will maintain their organization's culture of winning even if they add a hot head in FA.
pollardsvision
Footballguy
That was a low blow.
But just so we're all clear, Gordon and Ridnour won't be getting a chance to don the Purple and Teal.
On the Stephenson thing, I really don't know what he's like in the locker room. The Pacers troubles were widely speculated on with nobody really seeming to have a clue as what the dominant factors were.
I'm hoping that he just makes an easy scapegoat when everything goes to hell, but I really don't know.
A bout of fisticuffs with Evan Turner and a history of teammate altercations alone don't worry me. I'm sure Turner's a punk that probably need a little correcting anyway.
Somebody's going to sign the guy and I'm not worried about CHA's youth in particular. We got big Al who'll no doubt keep things in check. Maybe Lance will want to "correct" Zeller, but he needs some toughening up anyway.
When CHA signs a talented FA, it's always going to come with some baggage.
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Buck Bradcanon
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Must win for OKC. Spurs in 5 if they win tonight. Spurs in 7 if OKC wins tonight. Keep the faith fool!
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
Joel Embiid's agent & Cavs in discussions over a visit & physical. Both sides confident it will happen -Chad Ford
I was really liking the idea of Embid getting to #3 and the 76ers. Dang it.
I was really liking the idea of Embid getting to #3 and the 76ers. Dang it.
CurlyNight
Footballguy
Let's go Spurssssssssssssssssssssssss! 
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
I'm convinced rooting for the Spurs and Heat is a shtick.Let's go Spurssssssssssssssssssssssss!
CurlyNight
Footballguy
Why? I've been rooting for both of them for years now..I'm convinced rooting for the Spurs and Heat is a shtick.Let's go Spurssssssssssssssssssssssss!
CurlyNight
Footballguy
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
So Serge Ibaka is the real MVP?
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Need over 106 points in the second half... Prob not happening 
CurlyNight
Footballguy
Well, not surprised this is OKC's night. SA has trouble winning there as it is, much less in a do or die type of game for OKC... <_<
sports_fan
Footballguy
metoo
Footballguy
CurlyNight
Footballguy
Spurs will come out strong next game and win it. Pop should just punish his players by taking the 3 out of the game to rest em up. It's not like they can come back and win it at this point....
timschochet
Footballguy
Never ceases to amaze me how much home court matters in the NBA playoffs. Teams seem to play with so much more energy at home.
metoo
Footballguy
saintfool
Dead sexy
ibaka's return - not quite willis reed style - to OKC for these past two games has made homecourt matter.
phrozen
Footballguy
You think Joe Gibbs would like to coach basketball?
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Without cheating, I'm gonna guess Diaw is shooting 1 for 37 so far from 3 tonight.
ETA: 2/6 it feels like he is missing every 3 and is scared to shoot them
ETA: 2/6
it feels like he is missing every 3 and is scared to shoot them
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Ghost Rider
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timschochet
Footballguy
They might. And Miami might win in 5 too. But it doesn't change what I'm talking about. Teams just seem to play with much more energy when they're home.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Home teams are 44-35 in these playoffs, which means they are winning 56% of the time. That is not overwhelming.
timschochet
Footballguy
got_nugs
Footballguy
Isn't it also an outlier season in the playoffs compared to recent history in regards to away team wins? I'm just talking out of my ### here without stats, maybe i'm wrong.
CurlyNight
Footballguy
Pop's gonna pop... No way Spurs lose the next game......
Tim Duncan is easily a top 20 player all time correct?
Spurs were down 12 with 11 minutes left and he never came into the game. They were down 12 with 4 minutes left, so it never really got out of hand during that time.
What the hell was Pop doing? Am I missing something?
Spurs were down 12 with 11 minutes left and he never came into the game. They were down 12 with 4 minutes left, so it never really got out of hand during that time.
What the hell was Pop doing? Am I missing something?
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Mister CIA
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:bowdown: to Russell Westbrook.
Abraham
Footballguy
Agreed. My point being, down 12 with 11 to play, you put a top 10 all time player in and win the game. Just terrible coaching. Pop will act like he's above the criticism and he's smarter than everybody in the presser but he was wrong tonight.
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Ghost Rider
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Okay. but you act like putting Duncan back in would have guaranteed a win; it wouldn't have. The Thunder weren't getting beat by anyone tonight, and I like Pop's move of benching his starters for the rest of the game, considering the shellacking they were taking.
I watch very few NBA games a year so you know more than me but having an all time player like Duncan, 12 points isn't all that much to overcome.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
a. Duncan isn't the beast he used to be. He is still good, but not a top NBA player anymore. Besides, he is not really the type of player to take over a game by scoring at will.
b. No one was beating the Thunder tonight.
c. I don't watch a lot of NBA prior to the playoffs.
b. No one was beating the Thunder tonight.
c. I don't watch a lot of NBA prior to the playoffs.
trader jake
Footballguy
Todem
Footballguy
12 points with 11 minutes left is not a huge lead in the NBA. Pop is a tremendous coach., but he is not perfect. He was probably thinking my starters were getting stopped, let's see if another group can get us back into the game.
They did not. Game over they move on to game 5 at home. Starters got some rest in a game he felt they could not win. It's easy to second guess, but the guy knows his team better than any of us. I don't think I second guess his decision as his team was beaten pretty soundly.
I do think this series has taken a huge 180. The Thunder match up really well with a healthy Ibaka (he is playing and helping although he is not 100%). I think the Thunder can absolutely take this now. So they must win a road game. They are capable of that. I think they do it in game 5 and win this in 6.
Heat close the deal tonight and get 7 days off.
They did not. Game over they move on to game 5 at home. Starters got some rest in a game he felt they could not win. It's easy to second guess, but the guy knows his team better than any of us. I don't think I second guess his decision as his team was beaten pretty soundly.
I do think this series has taken a huge 180. The Thunder match up really well with a healthy Ibaka (he is playing and helping although he is not 100%). I think the Thunder can absolutely take this now. So they must win a road game. They are capable of that. I think they do it in game 5 and win this in 6.
Heat close the deal tonight and get 7 days off.
Baloney Sandwich
Footballguy
Westbrook played an amazing game at both ends, while his 40 pts and 10 assts were great I thought his defense was even more impressive.
pollardsvision
Footballguy
Don't ever underestimate the genius of Scotty Brooks. He orchestrated this entire hoax.
sports_fan
Footballguy
Pretty sure you're right. The 1st round was pretty strange and highly unusual.
Home team playoff record the past few seasons.
2013: 54-31 (.635)
2012: 57-27 (.679)
2011: 54-27 (.667)
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