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Encyclopedia Brown
Footballguy
I haven't seen enough of Marcin Gortat to know whether tonight is a fluke or he is a much better player than I thought, but he is taking it right at The Brow. He's getting the ball in the post and just dipping his shoulder and going strong to the basket. And the couple of times where Davis was right on him, Gortat got him up in the air with a couple of ridiculous head-fakes, and finger rolled it in.
Davis is not a very good one on one post defender.
SWC
Bromigo
he had one move against the pistons the first time they played this week that was so bad a travel that i am pretty sure people on pilgramages take less steps it was pretty bad but hey i just do not seem to get as mad about traveling when it is my team getting away with it for some reason take that to the bank bromigosMoe. said:
Encyclopedia Brown
Footballguy
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Didn't expect them to be this bad, but I didn't think the Hornets were much more than an at least last team in playoff type for the foreseeable future.
I don't think you win much of anything at the NBA level with Kemba Walker as a starting PG (and in this case franchise core player). Nice when he's on, but the off days outweigh them. Best as a 1st/2nd guy off the bench.
Poor shooting shoot-first 'PGs' are a dime a dozen. Knew Hornets resigned him, but I thought it was at $6 mil/yr. Yikes, horrible at $12 mil/yr.
I don't think you win much of anything at the NBA level with Kemba Walker as a starting PG (and in this case franchise core player). Nice when he's on, but the off days outweigh them. Best as a 1st/2nd guy off the bench.
Poor shooting shoot-first 'PGs' are a dime a dozen. Knew Hornets resigned him, but I thought it was at $6 mil/yr. Yikes, horrible at $12 mil/yr.
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EYLive
Footballguy
mlbnfl
Footballguy
So Cliff/hxperson what's the prediction on starting lineup tomorrow v LA? I'm seeing a ton of speculation from Lou starting at the 2, to Ross sliding to the 2 and starting JJ and even Ross at the 2 and Fields at the 3 to not mess with the rotation. My gut says the least likely is JJ starting and I could see either Lou or even Landry starting. Most outsiders probably assume Lou with how he's been playing but Casey has pulled that Fields card before.
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Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
I would prefer to see Ross at the 2 and Fields start to keep the rotation in order or start JJ at the 3. At least in the starting rotation Fields' complete lack of a shot can be hidden a bit more and he isn't other the floor with other guys that can't shoot like Hayes and JJ.mlbnfl said:
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Bromigo
i am not trying to defend traveling in the nba because it happens so much it ruins the game i agree about that but about the video in the click up there you get three steps and that is what he took so i guess that was probably ok under the way they call it it is probably a carry tho any day of the week take that to the bank brohanEYLive said:
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Mr. Retukes
Footballguy
Framing the announcement around the word "Noel" probably wasn't a good idea, either.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
sports_fan
Footballguy
kobe is passing the ball and the lakers are up on the raptors by 9 at halftime. amazing
SoCalBroncoFan
Footballguy
We should all root for the Lakers a little more. Only a couple of games out of the 6th pick. Really want them to have to forfeit that this upcoming draft. 
Encyclopedia Brown
Footballguy
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
Raps still Rappin'.
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
I find myself resenting newly-minted Warriors fans, as they did not know the hard times.
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Ugly loss at home by the Suns. Really like Markieff Morris, but wonder how much longer they can go with starting Marcus Morris (40% shooter and a minus defender). Odd he's still starting at the 3.
And Mirotic is the NBA's best rookie. Throw him on just about any other team, he's the runaway ROY winner. If Gibson/Taj/Gasol continue to play musical chairs with injuries (or one suffers a long term injury), he could still have a shot at ROY. If they don't, he's likely to finish behind Parker due to role. An embarrassment of riches the Bulls have in the frontcourt.
And Mirotic is the NBA's best rookie. Throw him on just about any other team, he's the runaway ROY winner. If Gibson/Taj/Gasol continue to play musical chairs with injuries (or one suffers a long term injury), he could still have a shot at ROY. If they don't, he's likely to finish behind Parker due to role. An embarrassment of riches the Bulls have in the frontcourt.
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Village Idiot
Pokerguy
Sorry, Derozan being out isn't an adequate excuse for the Raps losing to the Lakers.
No. 16
Footballguy
Seriously. If it's any consolation there's definitely a lot less Nor-Cal Lakers fans.
Village Idiot
Pokerguy
I agree they still should have beaten the Lakers, but if Derozan plays I don't see the Lakers winning.I was taking a shot at Tommy calling this the best Raptors team of all time.
Best IF Derozan wasn't out was what I was driving at.
Fair, but Derozen is doing a pretty good job impersonating the Toronto-era Rudy Gay right now. All I'm saying is that it's not like the Raptors subtracted an MVP candidate.
sports_fan
Footballguy
I'm pretty sure the Wolves are going to lose to the 76ers on Wednesday. I have a bad feeling about that game.
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Insoxicated
Odds Grizzlies can win out to the Dec 16th showdown with the warriors? Slim to none...
Road game with Houston this Wed should be tough.
Thankfully the gauntlet of Spurs/Heat/Mavs that follow are all in the Grindhouse.
Hornets and 76ers hopefully provide some rest before welcoming the Warriors to town.
Hoping for 19-4 when the Warriors arrive...
Road game with Houston this Wed should be tough.
Thankfully the gauntlet of Spurs/Heat/Mavs that follow are all in the Grindhouse.
Hornets and 76ers hopefully provide some rest before welcoming the Warriors to town.
Hoping for 19-4 when the Warriors arrive...
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
He has played terrible recently but it is still a big loss to the team. They subtracted their leading scorer and one of the best in the league at getting to the line. Williams, Vasquez and Johnson are nice players in short spurts but the more they play, the worse they get.
#### happens. Lowry overcompensated and tried to be a hero. Raps shot terribly from 3 while the Lakers shot waaaay above their season average. Toronto is going to lose 30-35 games this year. Some will be against terrible teams.
Moe.
Footballguy
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
You know some of those creeps are going to sneak over.No. 16 said:
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
Waaaay too far out to think about the NBA title, btw. Too many injuries to occur, major team adjustments, deadline trades, etc.
I think you can cross off about 20 teams pretty easily, but this year seems really wide-open.
I think you can cross off about 20 teams pretty easily, but this year seems really wide-open.
Instinctive
Footballguy
Yeah. Mavs need some vengeance for 07. Living in SF now, dreaming of a first round matchup.
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No. 16
Footballguy
The Grizz and Spurs have the size and execution that have given the Dubs trouble in the past. I'll also add the Chicago Bulls to that list.
I'm not saying teams like OKC, Clips, Mavs, Por, Cle, etc.... are going to be a cakewalk for the Dubs but I like how the Dubs match up against those teams. They maybe more talented/athletic but their size isn't overwhelming for the Warriors (LAC) due to Bogut and our tall perimeter players, their offenses aren't as sophisticated (OKC, POR), and/or their defenses aren't up to champonship level (CLE, DAL).
There's still plenty of season left and Curry has tweaked his ankle so...... yah I'm just enjoying the ride and praying the wheels don't fall off.
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
Mirotic, Jabari Parker, and Aaron Gordon are the only rookies with a PER 15 or higher. At this point, this rookie class is far from the historic one some were predicting. I agree that it's Parker's ROY to lose. As a Bulls fan, I find myself excited when Noah, Gasol or Gibson will be out just so I can see Mirotic get more minutes. It's still early but it's fun to see him already show improvement as he starts to figure out the NBA. He almost makes up for McDermott sucking so royally.
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Sixers within striking distance late in 4th quarter. l'chaim!
sports_fan
Footballguy
Not a chance the Spurs give this one away. Sixers will have to wait until Wednesday for a victory.
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
In other hot Sixers' news, Dario Saric became the youngest player ever to win Euroleague MVP of the month. 2019 Championship, here we come.
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
true, but would have been a good game to bet. Looks like Spurs were 13.5 pt favorites, though I don't know what happened after PArker and Duncan declared out, and their 3rd game in 4 nights. Sixers covered vs. Mavs in similar situation Saturday.
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
I've given the Sixers a "moral victory" for this one.
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Juxtatarot
Footballguy
For the Sixers sake, hopefully he stays in Europe for at least a few more years.
Village Idiot
Pokerguy
Especially since the Spurs hung a 13 point loss on the Dubs at home in November.
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