*NBA THREAD* Abe will be missed (6 Viewers)

[bushdocda]

KJ McDaniels and MCW gone from philly?

Those were two really nice talents I thought.

 

[Sammy3469]

Does anyone know what the 76'ers are really doing?

they're pissed off the Knicks are so bad. I mean you really have to try hard to put out a worse lineup than the Knicks right now

they did pick up that protected Lakers pick that the Suns had.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

@WojYahooNBA · 32s32 seconds ago
Good lord.

 

[menobrown]

KJ McDaniels and MCW gone from philly?

Those were two really nice talents I thought.

I liked MCW and near as I can tell all they got was lottery pick which is 1-5 protected. Don't like it for philly

 

[rodg12]

Rumors of the Lakers top-5 protected pick going to Philly in that MCW/Ennis/Plumlee/Knight/Thomas deal.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

WHOA!

 

[msudaisy26]

Does anyone know what the 76'ers are really doing?

they're pissed off the Knicks are so bad. I mean you really have to try hard to put out a worse lineup than the Knicks right now

they did pick up that protected Lakers pick that the Suns had.

They are treating themselves like a they are the step between the D-League and the NBA

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Does anyone know what the 76'ers are really doing?

Setting up for a playoff run in 2025. Until then, 10 wins per season.

 

[rodg12]

What I don't get is, why would the Sixers want the top pick this year? They already have Noel and Embiid. I don't see either playing alongside Okafor.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

I'm not the biggest MCW fan, but you'd better have some good explanation to deal him.

For Isaiah Thomas, Boston will send Marcus Thornton and a 2016 first-round pick via Cleveland to Phoenix, league source tells Yahoo Sports.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

Moving MCW is a little surprising, but we have to see what they got when all the smoke clears. I never got the feeling that he was untouchable.

McDaniels is also a talent, but he had only a 1-year deal and they probably did not want to pay him what they would have to.

 

[thecatch]

Rumors of the Lakers top-5 protected pick going to Philly in that MCW/Ennis/Plumlee/Knight/Thomas deal.

Well that's apparently two teams that dont think Thomas is as good as his numbers indicate. Giving him up and the Lakers pick for Knight seems steep.

 

[rodg12]

Isaiah Thomas going to the the Celtics.

 

[menobrown]

What I don't get is, why would the Sixers want the top pick this year? They already have Noel and Embiid. I don't see either playing alongside Okafor.

Assets are assets so I get that part. I just hate giving away MCW for what would be at best pick 6 or possibly no pick this year and possibility exists of it never being a lottery pick if the Lakers somehow improve next season.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

What I don't get is, why would the Sixers want the top pick this year? They already have Noel and Embiid. I don't see either playing alongside Okafor.

If Okafor were on the team right now, he would probably be their best player. As of this moment, it is hard to bank on Noel or Embiid for sure, so I don't see why they should pass him up if they can get him. I agree that it would probably be ideal to get a nice wing player/point guard/lights-out shooter.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

I still think that it is too early to comment on the Sixers' trades until we know all the final details.

I suspect that we will have picks 31-55 in the 2017 draft.

 

[Bobcat10]

So Thomas is part of the 3-way or going to Boston? Or now it's a super sexy 4-way?

 

[Insein]

Does anyone know what the 76'ers are really doing?

I thought I did. Out at lunch people were generally happy on the radio with the team. Then this happened. I'm sure it's Armageddon on sports radio now. Wtf is going on?

 

[Sammy3469]

What I don't get is, why would the Sixers want the top pick this year? They already have Noel and Embiid. I don't see either playing alongside Okafor.

Assets are assets so I get that part. I just hate giving away MCW for what would be at best pick 6 or possibly no pick this year and possibility exists of it never being a lottery pick if the Lakers somehow improve next season.

That Laker pick is extremely valuable though. MCW will at best be an average PG and is fungible in FA.

 

[msudaisy26]

What I don't get is, why would the Sixers want the top pick this year? They already have Noel and Embiid. I don't see either playing alongside Okafor.

You act like one of them won't be traded by this time next year lol.

 

[menobrown]

What I don't get is, why would the Sixers want the top pick this year? They already have Noel and Embiid. I don't see either playing alongside Okafor.

Assets are assets so I get that part. I just hate giving away MCW for what would be at best pick 6 or possibly no pick this year and possibility exists of it never being a lottery pick if the Lakers somehow improve next season.

That Laker pick is extremely valuable though. MCW will at best be an average PG and is fungible in FA.

How can we say that when it's 1-5 lottery protected?

 

[Long Ball Larry]

Details on the 1st-rounder that the Sixers got with McGee:



2015 first round draft pick from Oklahoma City

Oklahoma City's 1st round pick to Denver (via Cleveland) protected for selections 1-18 in 2015, 1-15 in 2016 and 1-15 in 2017; if Oklahoma City has not conveyed a 1st round pick to Denver by 2017, then Oklahoma City will instead convey its 2018 2nd round pick and 2019 2nd round pick to Denver.
OKC currently sits at #14, so as of this moment, it would not be conveyed this season.

 

[Bobcat10]

The Bucks got even longer...wow...

 

[Good Posting Judge]

What I don't get is, why would the Sixers want the top pick this year? They already have Noel and Embiid. I don't see either playing alongside Okafor.

There is no guarantee that they end up with Okafor, even with the worst record. Far from it.

 

[Sammy3469]

What I don't get is, why would the Sixers want the top pick this year? They already have Noel and Embiid. I don't see either playing alongside Okafor.

Assets are assets so I get that part. I just hate giving away MCW for what would be at best pick 6 or possibly no pick this year and possibility exists of it never being a lottery pick if the Lakers somehow improve next season.

That Laker pick is extremely valuable though. MCW will at best be an average PG and is fungible in FA.

How can we say that when it's 1-5 lottery protected?

Because it goes to top 3 protected the following 2 year and then totally unprotected in 2018. The chances the Lakers even get playoff competitive in that period of time is low.

 

[rodg12]

Somebody buy Woj a drink.

What I don't get is, why would the Sixers want the top pick this year? They already have Noel and Embiid. I don't see either playing alongside Okafor.

You act like one of them won't be traded by this time next year lol.

You devalue the asset when everybody knows he has to be traded.

 

[msudaisy26]

So winners and losers?

I think Phoenix and OKC, and the Bucks won.

 

[rodg12]

What I don't get is, why would the Sixers want the top pick this year? They already have Noel and Embiid. I don't see either playing alongside Okafor.

There is no guarantee that they end up with Okafor, even with the worst record. Far from it.

Fair point.

 

[msudaisy26]

Somebody buy Woj a drink.

What I don't get is, why would the Sixers want the top pick this year? They already have Noel and Embiid. I don't see either playing alongside Okafor.

You act like one of them won't be traded by this time next year lol.

You devalue the asset when everybody knows he has to be traded.

I agree with you, but you act like that is going to stop the 76ers.

 

[rodg12]

So winners and losers?

I think Phoenix and OKC, and the Bucks won.

Miami a clear winner getting Dragic for picks and Granger's corpse.

 

[Sammy3469]

So winners and losers?

I think Phoenix and OKC, and the Bucks won.

Biggest winner is Miami...by far

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Isaiah Thomas + Suns' owned Lakers pick for Brandon Knight (and having to pay a new contract) does seem a bit extreme (if that's what happens). That Laker pick is only Top 3 protected next year.

I really wonder how Bledsoe and Knight will fit personally.

 

[Spartans Rule]

MCW will at best be an average PG and is fungible in FA.

He's statistically pretty terrible (.444 TS% :X ) but that's certainly at least in part because he plays for a team that's trying to lose. Hard to say exactly what his upside is, but Milwaukee seems like a good situation for him with Kidd coaching and a lot of young talent.

 

[Bobcat10]

So winners and losers?

I think Phoenix and OKC, and the Bucks won.

Biggest winner is Miami...by far

Goran will stay in Miami for sure?

 

[Sammy3469]

looks like Miami got both Dragics...or is that Dragi

 

[rodg12]

So winners and losers?

I think Phoenix and OKC, and the Bucks won.

Biggest winner is Miami...by far

Goran will stay in Miami for sure?

They were on the list when he demanded a trade. Miami, Knicks, Lakers.

 

[Bobcat10]

So winners and losers?

I think Phoenix and OKC, and the Bucks won.

Biggest winner is Miami...by far

Goran will stay in Miami for sure?

They were on the list when he demanded a trade. Miami, Knicks, Lakers.

Ok...couldn't remember the 3rd team. Good for them.

 

[Sammy3469]

So winners and losers?

I think Phoenix and OKC, and the Bucks won.

Biggest winner is Miami...by far

Goran will stay in Miami for sure?

Presumably yes

 

[MikeMan]

So winners and losers?

I think Phoenix and OKC, and the Bucks won.

Short term: Miami! Dragic feeding Wade, Bosh, Whiteside. I say they are a contender in the weak East.

 

[scoobus]

So Phoenix just traded away 3 PGs? Solid roster construction there.

 

[rodg12]

Final count on number of guys that just got traded is going to be epic.

 

[rodg12]

So Phoenix just traded away 3 PGs? Solid roster construction there.

Still have Bledsoe and got Knight back.

 

[rodg12]

Pelicans got in on the Dragic to Miami deal. Getting Norris Cole and Shawne Williams. Unloading Salmons to PHX.

 

[Spartans Rule]

So Phoenix just traded away 3 PGs? Solid roster construction there.

The Isaiah Thomas signing really turned out great for them. Pissed off Dragic so they had to practically give him away, and then they trade Thomas + a pick for a comparable player in Knight.

 

[rodg12]

Suns with the rare double 3-way today.

 

[Capella]

#assets

 

[Eephus]

John Salmons is always the fish of the day at the trade deadline

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Isaiah Thomas + Suns' owned Lakers pick for Brandon Knight (and having to pay a new contract) does seem a bit extreme (if that's what happens). That Laker pick is only Top 3 protected next year.

I really wonder how Bledsoe and Knight will fit personally.

As I understood it from the Suns' perspective, it's:

Thomas

Ennis

Plumlee

Lakers pick

for

Marcus Thornton

Brandon Knight

Cavs 2016 pick

So, a trade down in the first, essentially.

Sounds like there are potentially a lot more moving pieces in the Heat deal, though, too.

 

[Capella]

So winners and losers?

I think Phoenix and OKC, and the Bucks won.

Short term: Miami! Dragic feeding Wade, Bosh, Whiteside. I say they are a contender in the weak East.

literally, no chance in hell

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

So winners and losers?

I think Phoenix and OKC, and the Bucks won.

Biggest winner is Miami...by far

Goran will stay in Miami for sure?

I don't think it's a shoe in.

Assuming no deals: Between Deng/Wade/Bosh/Chris Anderson/Haslem/McBob, I think they've got somewhere around $61 mil tied up for 2015. Going based off reported 4/80 mil or 5/110 mil deal Dragic is looking for in offseason, they'll have to go well over 2015 cap I believe.