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I agree they haven't been relevant lately. But they will be.
As a Vols football fan, I feel your pain. I don't understand how UCLA ever lost their mojo for basketball. Recruiting in LA alone should field a good team. The allure of Hollywood, hot chicks, the beach...how does any kid choose Kansas or Louisville over UCLA...?
Tennessee will be back sooner than you think as well.
Tennessee is going to be really good in 2015. The class from this year has some difference makers that fit the Butch Jones offense really well.

 
The good news is, it seems as though the UK students burned a lot of couches, among other things, saturday night so they may be light on things to burn tonight. The bad news is it seems as though they were just practicing for tonight.

When did burning couches become a thing to do?

It is raining here - so maybe that keeps things a little subdued if UK wins. Otherwise, I have a feeling things will be burning tonight win or lose - I mean when you have everything stacked for a burning, you pretty much have to light it when you are drunk, win or lose, right?
Right
 
I agree they haven't been relevant lately. But they will be.
They are behind all of these programs:

Kentucky

UConn

Louisville

Florida

Duke

Syracuse

UNC

Arizona

Kansas

And are conceivably on the same tier or behind Michigan, OSU, Wisconsin, Texas and a few others.

In other words, they're not really relevant at all or likely will be anytime soon. They can have a breakthrough season or two but I think it's been demonstrated that sustained success isn't happening.

 
I agree they haven't been relevant lately. But they will be.
They are behind all of these programs:

Kentucky

UConn

Louisville

Florida

Duke

Syracuse

UNC

Arizona

Kansas

And are conceivably on the same tier or behind Michigan, OSU, Wisconsin, Texas and a few others.

In other words, they're not really relevant at all or likely will be anytime soon. They can have a breakthrough season or two but I think it's been demonstrated that sustained success isn't happening.
I actually think the Texas comparison is fair. It's easy to look back and say, "How were these guys not better?" I don't know if it's coaching or plain bad luck, but both the Longhorns and the Bruins have had multiple teams in the last decade that bowed out two or three rounds early in the tourney. The 98-99 team featured 5 guys that would end up playing in the NBA and they lost to Detroit in round 1, for example.

 
I agree they haven't been relevant lately. But they will be.
They are behind all of these programs:

Kentucky

UConn

Louisville

Florida

Duke

Syracuse

UNC

Arizona

Kansas

And are conceivably on the same tier or behind Michigan, OSU, Wisconsin, Texas and a few others.

In other words, they're not really relevant at all or likely will be anytime soon. They can have a breakthrough season or two but I think it's been demonstrated that sustained success isn't happening.
I actually think the Texas comparison is fair. It's easy to look back and say, "How were these guys not better?" I don't know if it's coaching or plain bad luck, but both the Longhorns and the Bruins have had multiple teams in the last decade that bowed out two or three rounds early in the tourney. The 98-99 team featured 5 guys that would end up playing in the NBA and they lost to Detroit in round 1, for example.
Add Michigan State to top tier programs.

edit: And Indiana?

 
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Not me. I've never rooted for Kentucky in my life (being a UCLA fan, because Kentucky is #2 in national championships).

But I'm rooting for them Monday night. I can't help but like a team that's an 8 seed and wins every game by a point or so. It's great. This has been one of the most exciting tournaments ever, and Kentuxky is 90% of the reason. They deserve it.
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I agree they haven't been relevant lately. But they will be.
They are behind all of these programs:Kentucky

UConn

Louisville

Florida

Duke

Syracuse

UNC

Arizona

Kansas

And are conceivably on the same tier or behind Michigan, OSU, Wisconsin, Texas and a few others.

In other words, they're not really relevant at all or likely will be anytime soon. They can have a breakthrough season or two but I think it's been demonstrated that sustained success isn't happening.
I actually think the Texas comparison is fair. It's easy to look back and say, "How were these guys not better?" I don't know if it's coaching or plain bad luck, but both the Longhorns and the Bruins have had multiple teams in the last decade that bowed out two or three rounds early in the tourney. The 98-99 team featured 5 guys that would end up playing in the NBA and they lost to Detroit in round 1, for example.
Add Michigan State to top tier programs.

edit: And Indiana?
Yea I knew there were teams I forgot. Def MSU in top tier.

I would put Indiana and UCLA on the same tier right now.

 
I agree they haven't been relevant lately. But they will be.
As a Vols football fan, I feel your pain. I don't understand how UCLA ever lost their mojo for basketball. Recruiting in LA alone should field a good team. The allure of Hollywood, hot chicks, the beach...how does any kid choose Kansas or Louisville over UCLA...?
Tennessee will be back sooner than you think as well.
Tennessee is going to be really good in 2015. The class from this year has some difference makers that fit the Butch Jones offense really well.
Not optimistic.

 
The good news is, it seems as though the UK students burned a lot of couches, among other things, saturday night so they may be light on things to burn tonight. The bad news is it seems as though they were just practicing for tonight.

When did burning couches become a thing to do?

It is raining here - so maybe that keeps things a little subdued if UK wins. Otherwise, I have a feeling things will be burning tonight win or lose - I mean when you have everything stacked for a burning, you pretty much have to light it when you are drunk, win or lose, right?
You should comb the "Free Stuff" section of craigslist for couches and sell them to students. There's money to be made here.
inciting a riot

 
Any reports from espn or yahoo if anyone had both UCONN and KY in the finals for their brackets?
There are multiple brackets at ESPN that have both Kentucky and UConn in the final.

ETA: Here are the top 100 brackets, 97 of them had UConn and Kentucky in the finals http://games.espn.go.com/tournament-challenge-bracket/2014/en/leaderboard
This guy is in 4th place on Yahoo's/Buffet's Billion Dollar Bracket Challenge. Top 20 get $100,000. He has UConn-Kentucky, but, he forgot to pick a winner. No matter what happens, at least 20 people who did pick a winner will push him out of the payout.

 
Any reports from espn or yahoo if anyone had both UCONN and KY in the finals for their brackets?
Heard on the radio Saturday night that just over 1000 brackets out of 1 million had UK and Uconn in the final. Not surprisingly, two ladies who don't even watch basketball had both of them in the finals in my office bracket. :hot:
 
I agree they haven't been relevant lately. But they will be.
They are behind all of these programs:

Kentucky

UConn

Louisville

Florida

Duke

Syracuse

UNC

Arizona

Kansas

And are conceivably on the same tier or behind Michigan, OSU, Wisconsin, Texas and a few others.

In other words, they're not really relevant at all or likely will be anytime soon. They can have a breakthrough season or two but I think it's been demonstrated that sustained success isn't happening.
I actually think the Texas comparison is fair. It's easy to look back and say, "How were these guys not better?" I don't know if it's coaching or plain bad luck, but both the Longhorns and the Bruins have had multiple teams in the last decade that bowed out two or three rounds early in the tourney. The 98-99 team featured 5 guys that would end up playing in the NBA and they lost to Detroit in round 1, for example.
It's coaching.

 
Any reports from espn or yahoo if anyone had both UCONN and KY in the finals for their brackets?
There are multiple brackets at ESPN that have both Kentucky and UConn in the final.

ETA: Here are the top 100 brackets, 97 of them had UConn and Kentucky in the finals http://games.espn.go.com/tournament-challenge-bracket/2014/en/leaderboard
This guy is in 4th place on Yahoo's/Buffet's Billion Dollar Bracket Challenge. Top 20 get $100,000. He has UConn-Kentucky, but, he forgot to pick a winner. No matter what happens, at least 20 people who did pick a winner will push him out of the payout.
OOF!

 
I've gotta admit, I'm interested to hear what Calipari's "tweak" is. Apparently he's going to say at some point in the off-season.

I bet Pat Forde feels a bit red-faced.

 
I've gotta admit, I'm interested to hear what Calipari's "tweak" is. Apparently he's going to say at some point in the off-season.

I bet Pat Forde feels a bit red-faced.
He at least responded:

That bed John Calipari made for himself is looking pretty comfortable these days

But he was hardly alone in writing off UK before the tournament started - about the only two national guys I heard who thought UK might be a sleeping Giant were Bilas and Vitale.

 
Well that might be going a bit too far.

Win or loss tonight, this is a pretty big victory for the UConn program. To get the Ollie era off to such a good start is massive in terms of keeping the momentum going, momentum that easily could've been lost if it took a couple of different tries to get the right guy, coupled with being bumped down to a mid-major (?). Those two things alone could've been a fatal blow to the program.

The line of thinking that Calhoun overshadows Ollie at this point is complete poppycock. JC's in the background now, and I'm sure he's willing to offer advice or help when needed, but it's KO's ship.

 
Well that might be going a bit too far.

Win or loss tonight, this is a pretty big victory for the UConn program. To get the Ollie era off to such a good start is massive in terms of keeping the momentum going, momentum that easily could've been lost if it took a couple of different tries to get the right guy, coupled with being bumped down to a mid-major (?). Those two things alone could've been a fatal blow to the program.

The line of thinking that Calhoun overshadows Ollie at this point is complete poppycock. JC's in the background now, and I'm sure he's willing to offer advice or help when needed, but it's KO's ship.
I agree with everything you said here. If UConn whiffed on Calhoun's replacement, the program could easily have dropped into obscurity, and the conference realignment stuff only made the job tougher.

Also, there's been a parade of NBA All-Stars praising Ollie: what a great teammate he was, how helpful he was with young players getting ready for games, and how he was a great leader both by example and with instruction. If anything, UConn's concern might be that Ollie is too successful and gets offered an NBA job.

 
It's definitely a concern, and he's not exactly making Calipari money right now. I think he'll get re-negotiated soon though, and he probably (hopefully) wants to put in a longer stint than the couple years he's been at Connecticut. Who knows. I'm sure that those doors are always going to be open to him, though.

 
I'm starting to get the fear
Same here.

Off to some ####ty bar to watch teh game. Other UConn dudes, I love you. UK dudes, good luck. Everyone else, don't feel sorry for whomever loses b/c both teams are on pretty sick runs.

Tim> GFY.
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Good luck tonight - hope its a good game, and the refs let the players decide the game. Either team will be deserving champs this season.

Near as I can tell, Lexington is going to burn tonight win or lose, so I suppose its better to burn the town down after a win.

 
It's definitely a concern, and he's not exactly making Calipari money right now. I think he'll get re-negotiated soon though, and he probably

(hopefully) wants to put in a longer stint than the couple years he's been at Connecticut. Who knows. I'm sure that those doors are always going to be open to him, though.
He will be coaching Okla City next year if they don't make the Finals

 
alan boston on uconn +3 small

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Kys guards have not played well. Yes Harrison has hit big shots, but overall, neither has played well. Kys guards were able to beat Wiscy 1 on 1, which leads to many rebounds. U Conns gds have been spectacular defensively. Without Ky breaking them down, with very poor halfcourt offense, Ky will struggle to get good looks. So with my head a little and my heart alot, I bet U Conn plus 3 small but will root like its big. Thanks for following me

 
It's definitely a concern, and he's not exactly making Calipari money right now. I think he'll get re-negotiated soon though, and he probably

(hopefully) wants to put in a longer stint than the couple years he's been at Connecticut. Who knows. I'm sure that those doors are always going to be open to him, though.
He will be coaching Okla City next year if they don't make the Finals
I don't think so and I really hope not. Calhoun definitely wanted him there and I'm sure they will pay him more.

Oh well, as a UConn fan who has watched every title game, including in high school when UConn went from obscurity to a contender with the 1988 NIT title, this has been a fun ride. No way would I have predicted getting to the title game this year, so I'm going to sit back and enjoy it win or lose.

By the way, any thoughts on Richard Hamilton being the next Kevin Ollie coaching-wise? Hard to miss the fact that he has been sitting at Calhoun's left at every game in the tourney (or at least the Final Four and MSG).

 
timschochet said:
Just for the record, if Kentucky wins Monday night, they will have 9 National Championships. They will still be behind the Bruins' 11. However, it will reaffirm Kentucky as the second greatest college basketball university.
I appreciate your fandom, but no one under 35 considers ucla a relevant basketball university.
Well, since they continue to do very well recruiting, I'd say that's not correct.
No moving the goalposts here. You made a silly comment about championships so you don't get to revise the argument to use recruiting a barometer of success. UCLA is not a championship contender and hasn't been in some time. The most recent "stacked" team got rolled by Derrick Rose and a bunch of guys who couldn't play for UCLA in the Final 4. Otherwise, there hasn't been a lot of March success out in Westwood for some time.
I agree. I wouldn't classify winning 10 of their 11 titles between 1964 and 1975 as basketball title relevant.

 
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What is the point of the Lawyers, Guns, and Money sign in the background of the pre-game?

Love the crazies :lol:

alan boston on uconn +3 small

alan boston ‏@bostonred88 1h
Kys guards have not played well. Yes Harrison has hit big shots, but overall, neither has played well. Kys guards were able to beat Wiscy 1 on 1, which leads to many rebounds. U Conns gds have been spectacular defensively. Without Ky breaking them down, with very poor halfcourt offense, Ky will struggle to get good looks. So with my head a little and my heart alot, I bet U Conn plus 3 small but will root like its big. Thanks for following me
:runsfromroomscreaming: Noooooooooooo!

 
alan boston on uconn +3 small

alan boston ‏@bostonred88 1h

Kys guards have not played well. Yes Harrison has hit big shots, but overall, neither has played well. Kys guards were able to beat Wiscy 1 on 1, which leads to many rebounds. U Conns gds have been spectacular defensively. Without Ky breaking them down, with very poor halfcourt offense, Ky will struggle to get good looks. So with my head a little and my heart alot, I bet U Conn plus 3 small but will root like its big. Thanks for following me
Never heard of him
 

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