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[heckmanm]

IU booted Devin Davis (busted w/ pot) and Hanner Mosquera-Perea (in the room with Davis). Front line just got thin again. Davis was no sure bet coming back from the head injury, but HMP showed flashes of talent last year.

 

[Frostillicus]

IU booted Devin Davis (busted w/ pot) and Hanner Mosquera-Perea (in the room with Davis). Front line just got thin again. Davis was no sure bet coming back from the head injury, but HMP showed flashes of talent last year.

They'll sign Jordan Murphy, a pretty good freshman who originally signed with VCU but pulled out when Shaka left. Was looking good for the Gophers but now Indiana has room and he's going to visit.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Oh no, marijuana!

 

[randall146]

Holy crap they throw these kids off the team for pot? There's got to be more to it

 

[phatdawg]

Holy crap they throw these kids off the team for pot? There's got to be more to it

The pot was sort of the last straw. The two that got booted have had incidents before and they both have served suspensions. With the off-season trouble the team had last year, this is not surprising.

 

[Bruce Dickinson]

Izzo in Memphis to see Draymond and Warriors versus ZBo and the Grizz, visit with other former Spartans Steve Smith (calling the game) and Shawn Respert (Grizz Asst Coach) and to recruit transfer candidate Johnathan Williams III. That's efficient travelling right there.

Happy to see Shawn Respert is still in the game. He was a fantastic college player who had his NBA career derailed by cancer.

 

[Captain Quinoa]

Kentucky @ Kansas 1/30/16

Non-conference schedule on paper isn't quite as crazy as the last two years, but should allow for a top 4 finish in the RPI.

Finals Week

Looks like their biggest challenge right here

 

[Bruce Dickinson]

Kentucky @ Kansas 1/30/16

Non-conference schedule on paper isn't quite as crazy as the last two years, but should allow for a top 4 finish in the RPI.

Finals Week

Looks like their biggest challenge right here

So true. Some of the roster could probably cut it without all the extra help jocks get. But damn, I don't know how some of these guys have survived years of showers without drowning.

 

[BroncoFreak_2K3]

Izzo in Memphis to see Draymond and Warriors versus ZBo and the Grizz, visit with other former Spartans Steve Smith (calling the game) and Shawn Respert (Grizz Asst Coach) and to recruit transfer candidate Johnathan Williams III. That's efficient travelling right there.

Happy to see Shawn Respert is still in the game. He was a fantastic college player who had his NBA career derailed by cancer.

Fantastic individual. Gutty as hell. Great Player Development coach and just recently got the Asst coaching gig with the Grizzlies. Loved watching him play back in the day. Reminded me a lot of Terry Furlow who played way way back at MSU and could shoot the rock from anywhere on the court anytime.

Been tough for me watching this Grizzlie-Warrior series because of the State allegiances on both teams. Been a terrific series though.

 

[Bruce Dickinson]

Rules Committee has met and made their recommended rules changes for next season. Areas of emphasis are speeding up pace of play, and reducing physicality to encourage a more open style of play.

For enforcement purposes, a new classification of technical foul is proposed, a "Class B" that carries just a one-shot penalty. Delay of game technicals would be Class B, and some other technicals would be reclassified as Class B, like hanging on the rim.

Anyway, to speed up the game:

1. Reduce shot clock from 35 to 30

2. Reduce team timeouts from 5 to 4, with maximum of 3 timeouts in second half

3. Timeouts called within 30 seconds of scheduled media timeout become the media timeout

4. Coaches no longer allowed to call timeouts when the ball is in play

5. 10-second backcourt clock will not reset after a timeout

6. Class B technical foul for delay of game violations, like breaking timeout huddles late or taking too long to substitute after a player fouls out

Like a lot of these. The 30-second clock will speed up halfcourt possessions and reduce endgame fouling. No one is going to miss that 5th timeout. Would have preferred a complete removal of timeouts while the ball is in play, but restricting it to players is an improvement and will make the game easier to officiate. Adding the one-shot technical increases the chances of enforcing the delay of game stuff - two shots and the ball might be too steep a penalty for some refs to pull the trigger, but would whistle a one-shot penalty.

Not much specifics on the physicality rules changes. Requests to enforce a lot of the freedom of movement rules installed two years ago, like reducing contact on perimeter players and forcing screeners to hold still. The most noticable rule change if adopted would be moving the charge/block arc out to 4 feet from basket to reduce basket collisions.

Also proposed was removing a couple of antiquated rules. Ditch the "five seconds while closely guarded" rule, which is hardly ever called and only existed to give defenses another weapon to counter stalling techniques during the no-shot-clock era. Also suggested is lifting the ban on pregame dunks, allowing players to dunk during pregame warmups.

Expansions of video reviews, like allowing video review on any potential shot clock violation. Also a proposal giving refs more latitude during video review of flagrant fouls, letting refs call Class B technicals on floppers if a flop triggered a video review. (KU superfans are already calling this the "Marcus Smart Rule")

 

[Frostillicus]

IU booted Devin Davis (busted w/ pot) and Hanner Mosquera-Perea (in the room with Davis). Front line just got thin again. Davis was no sure bet coming back from the head injury, but HMP showed flashes of talent last year.

They'll sign Jordan Murphy, a pretty good freshman who originally signed with VCU but pulled out when Shaka left. Was looking good for the Gophers but now Indiana has room and he's going to visit.

WE DID IT!!!

 

[Good Posting Judge]

That "no pregame dunk" rule is some Wooden-esque bull####.

 

[Bruce Dickinson]

That "no pregame dunk" rule is some Wooden-esque bull####.

It was put in for player and equipment safety. It took years for rim/basket technology to catch up to power dunks and power dunkers. Schools didn't want Jerome Lane situations breaking out every week on campuses across the country.

Back in the day, my U14 club team got called for three technical fouls during pregame warmups. A couple of wings claimed they could touch the rim, and others on the team were skeptical. So in the layup line, our center left the ball behind, jumped up and grabbed the rim. The two wings were right behind him and followed his lead, each jumping up and grabbing the rim to prove they could do it.

It was hilarious. Until we realized one of the refs was sitting at the scorers' table and saw the whole thing. He blew his whistle and called three technicals on us. So when the game started, instead of the center jump, our opponent got to choose a player to shoot six free throws, and then they got the ball on the side at midcourt.

There was a little extra running at our next practice.

 

[tdoss]

Coach Roy should love cutting down on timeouts and eliminating coaches from calling timeout while ball is in play.

People can get off the old dude's back now.

 

[Uruk-Hai]

Rules Committee has met and made their recommended rules changes for next season. Areas of emphasis are speeding up pace of play, and reducing physicality to encourage a more open style of play.

For enforcement purposes, a new classification of technical foul is proposed, a "Class B" that carries just a one-shot penalty. Delay of game technicals would be Class B, and some other technicals would be reclassified as Class B, like hanging on the rim.

Anyway, to speed up the game:

1. Reduce shot clock from 35 to 30

2. Reduce team timeouts from 5 to 4, with maximum of 3 timeouts in second half

3. Timeouts called within 30 seconds of scheduled media timeout become the media timeout

4. Coaches no longer allowed to call timeouts when the ball is in play

5. 10-second backcourt clock will not reset after a timeout

6. Class B technical foul for delay of game violations, like breaking timeout huddles late or taking too long to substitute after a player fouls out

Like a lot of these. The 30-second clock will speed up halfcourt possessions and reduce endgame fouling. No one is going to miss that 5th timeout. Would have preferred a complete removal of timeouts while the ball is in play, but restricting it to players is an improvement and will make the game easier to officiate. Adding the one-shot technical increases the chances of enforcing the delay of game stuff - two shots and the ball might be too steep a penalty for some refs to pull the trigger, but would whistle a one-shot penalty.

Not much specifics on the physicality rules changes. Requests to enforce a lot of the freedom of movement rules installed two years ago, like reducing contact on perimeter players and forcing screeners to hold still. The most noticable rule change if adopted would be moving the charge/block arc out to 4 feet from basket to reduce basket collisions.

Also proposed was removing a couple of antiquated rules. Ditch the "five seconds while closely guarded" rule, which is hardly ever called and only existed to give defenses another weapon to counter stalling techniques during the no-shot-clock era. Also suggested is lifting the ban on pregame dunks, allowing players to dunk during pregame warmups.

Expansions of video reviews, like allowing video review on any potential shot clock violation. Also a proposal giving refs more latitude during video review of flagrant fouls, letting refs call Class B technicals on floppers if a flop triggered a video review. (KU superfans are already calling this the "Marcus Smart Rule")

Coaches being able to call timeouts when the ball is in play has driven me crazy for decades. Jeebus, I'm dumb as a box of rocks and I knew at 8 years old when we needed one. Maybe the coach screaming at me had something to do with it, but still

I think I like all of these, though I'm not sure on #6 until I see it in practice.

I'm sure every Maryland fan will like #1. My eyelids start drooping watching Melo Trimble dribble for 20 seconds out by half court. Now, it'll only be 15!

 

[Bruce Dickinson]

Re: #6: if passed, I think it will play out a lot like the NBA's delay of game rule, where each bench gets one warning for dilly-dallying, and then teams stop messing around after their warning - the threat of the technical gets the game moving again.

The NBA's delay of game rule also includes stuff like bouncing the ball into the cameras after a made basket and huddling too long before or between free throws. Haven't read if NCAA's proposed delay of game rule is that broad.

Note also that none of these have passed yet. These are the rule changes up for ratification next month with a different group. Straw polls suggest the shot clock one will pass, and the charge/block arc will be phased in dependent of schools' building maintenance schedules. None of the others are locks, but some may qualify for an experimental period - tried out in the NIT/CBI Tournaments or something like that.

 

[randall146]

I like the five second closely guarded rule - sure it's called infrequently, but it rewards bulldog defense and forces the offense to do something with the ball.

I also don't see how the game is better without it.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

3. Timeouts called within 30 seconds of scheduled media timeout become the media timeout

Love this, though I can't imagine that the networks do.

 

[Bruce Dickinson]

3. Timeouts called within 30 seconds of scheduled media timeout become the media timeout

Love this, though I can't imagine that the networks do.

If passed, there will be some sort of TV compromise, like exempting the first timeout each team calls in the second half from this rule.

On paper I like this change a lot, though. Hated seeing a team call timeout at 12:04, go to commercial, then have the ball knocked out of bonds at 11:57 and go back to commercial.

 

[Bruce Dickinson]

Larry Bird called Willie Cauley-Stein a "$100MM player". Adjust your draft boards accordingly.

 

[Uruk-Hai]

Color me shocked, but I never would've thought JJ Redick would be an important enough NBA player that he'd be on the floor at the end of a Game 7.

 

[Prince Myshkin]

Color me shocked, but I never would've thought JJ Redick would be an important enough NBA player that he'd be on the floor at the end of a Game 7.

He's played like a damn dog the entire game though

 

[Uruk-Hai]

Color me shocked, but I never would've thought JJ Redick would be an important enough NBA player that he'd be on the floor at the end of a Game 7.

He's played like a damn dog the entire game though

Yep, but I didn't think he'd even be IN the NBA at this point.

 

[Prince Myshkin]

I like the five second closely guarded rule - sure it's called infrequently, but it rewards bulldog defense and forces the offense to do something with the ball.

I also don't see how the game is better without it.

Agreed. They took it out in the mid-90's and it was terrible. Reinstated after a couple of years. Unsure why they would try to take it out again...

 

[Keerock]

Rules Committee has met and made their recommended rules changes for next season. Areas of emphasis are speeding up pace of play, and reducing physicality to encourage a more open style of play.

For enforcement purposes, a new classification of technical foul is proposed, a "Class B" that carries just a one-shot penalty. Delay of game technicals would be Class B, and some other technicals would be reclassified as Class B, like hanging on the rim.

Anyway, to speed up the game:

1. Reduce shot clock from 35 to 30

2. Reduce team timeouts from 5 to 4, with maximum of 3 timeouts in second half

3. Timeouts called within 30 seconds of scheduled media timeout become the media timeout

4. Coaches no longer allowed to call timeouts when the ball is in play

5. 10-second backcourt clock will not reset after a timeout

6. Class B technical foul for delay of game violations, like breaking timeout huddles late or taking too long to substitute after a player fouls out

Like a lot of these. The 30-second clock will speed up halfcourt possessions and reduce endgame fouling. No one is going to miss that 5th timeout. Would have preferred a complete removal of timeouts while the ball is in play, but restricting it to players is an improvement and will make the game easier to officiate. Adding the one-shot technical increases the chances of enforcing the delay of game stuff - two shots and the ball might be too steep a penalty for some refs to pull the trigger, but would whistle a one-shot penalty.

Not much specifics on the physicality rules changes. Requests to enforce a lot of the freedom of movement rules installed two years ago, like reducing contact on perimeter players and forcing screeners to hold still. The most noticable rule change if adopted would be moving the charge/block arc out to 4 feet from basket to reduce basket collisions.

Also proposed was removing a couple of antiquated rules. Ditch the "five seconds while closely guarded" rule, which is hardly ever called and only existed to give defenses another weapon to counter stalling techniques during the no-shot-clock era. Also suggested is lifting the ban on pregame dunks, allowing players to dunk during pregame warmups.

Expansions of video reviews, like allowing video review on any potential shot clock violation. Also a proposal giving refs more latitude during video review of flagrant fouls, letting refs call Class B technicals on floppers if a flop triggered a video review. (KU superfans are already calling this the "Marcus Smart Rule")

How about they stop calling ticky-tack, hand check fouls. That should shave 20 minutes off each game.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Color me shocked, but I never would've thought JJ Redick would be an important enough NBA player that he'd be on the floor at the end of a Game 7.

He's played like a damn dog the entire game though

Yep, but I didn't think he'd even be IN the NBA at this point.

I think he's worked hard on his game and there's probably more demand for a guy like him in the NBA now than there was a decade ago.

 

[whoknew]

Rules Committee has met and made their recommended rules changes for next season. Areas of emphasis are speeding up pace of play, and reducing physicality to encourage a more open style of play.

For enforcement purposes, a new classification of technical foul is proposed, a "Class B" that carries just a one-shot penalty. Delay of game technicals would be Class B, and some other technicals would be reclassified as Class B, like hanging on the rim.

Anyway, to speed up the game:

1. Reduce shot clock from 35 to 30

2. Reduce team timeouts from 5 to 4, with maximum of 3 timeouts in second half

3. Timeouts called within 30 seconds of scheduled media timeout become the media timeout

4. Coaches no longer allowed to call timeouts when the ball is in play

5. 10-second backcourt clock will not reset after a timeout

6. Class B technical foul for delay of game violations, like breaking timeout huddles late or taking too long to substitute after a player fouls out

Like a lot of these. The 30-second clock will speed up halfcourt possessions and reduce endgame fouling. No one is going to miss that 5th timeout. Would have preferred a complete removal of timeouts while the ball is in play, but restricting it to players is an improvement and will make the game easier to officiate. Adding the one-shot technical increases the chances of enforcing the delay of game stuff - two shots and the ball might be too steep a penalty for some refs to pull the trigger, but would whistle a one-shot penalty.

Not much specifics on the physicality rules changes. Requests to enforce a lot of the freedom of movement rules installed two years ago, like reducing contact on perimeter players and forcing screeners to hold still. The most noticable rule change if adopted would be moving the charge/block arc out to 4 feet from basket to reduce basket collisions.

Also proposed was removing a couple of antiquated rules. Ditch the "five seconds while closely guarded" rule, which is hardly ever called and only existed to give defenses another weapon to counter stalling techniques during the no-shot-clock era. Also suggested is lifting the ban on pregame dunks, allowing players to dunk during pregame warmups.

Expansions of video reviews, like allowing video review on any potential shot clock violation. Also a proposal giving refs more latitude during video review of flagrant fouls, letting refs call Class B technicals on floppers if a flop triggered a video review. (KU superfans are already calling this the "Marcus Smart Rule")

How about they stop calling ticky-tack, hand check fouls. That should shave 20 minutes off each game.

NO. They need to call ALL the fouls to open the game up.

And the 6 foul thing is a HORRIBLE idea. Big surprise Izzo is in favor.

 

[Spartans Rule]

NO. They need to call ALL the fouls to open the game up.

That wouldn't open the game up at all.

It would lead to longer games with more free throws, teams attacking the basket more aggressively to draw cheap fouls rather than moving the ball, and a decline in "Havoc" type defenses that lead to up-tempo games because they're not worth the foul risk. None of that would be more fun to watch.

 

[Bruce Dickinson]

SG LaGerald Vick to Kansas.

Late bloomer, was expected to be a 2016 but the timing of this commitment suggests he's going to try to reclassify to 2015. If he get cleared as a 2015 qualifier, Vick will get to join KU in Korea this summer representing USA at the World University Games.

Great shooter off the dribble, a bit skinny. Not expected to be an impact player as a freshman (final ranking will be in the 50-75 range), but could develop into a really good 2-3 year player.

Probably the most satisfying part of this commitment is Vick cancelled a UK campus visit to make the announcement.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

He is Michael Vick's son. #CaptainHook

 

[BroncoFreak_2K3]

NO. They need to call ALL the fouls to open the game up.

That wouldn't open the game up at all.

It would lead to longer games with more free throws, teams attacking the basket more aggressively to draw cheap fouls rather than moving the ball, and a decline in "Havoc" type defenses that lead to up-tempo games because they're not worth the foul risk. None of that would be more fun to watch.

Rules Committee has met and made their recommended rules changes for next season. Areas of emphasis are speeding up pace of play, and reducing physicality to encourage a more open style of play.

For enforcement purposes, a new classification of technical foul is proposed, a "Class B" that carries just a one-shot penalty. Delay of game technicals would be Class B, and some other technicals would be reclassified as Class B, like hanging on the rim.

Anyway, to speed up the game:

1. Reduce shot clock from 35 to 30

2. Reduce team timeouts from 5 to 4, with maximum of 3 timeouts in second half

3. Timeouts called within 30 seconds of scheduled media timeout become the media timeout

4. Coaches no longer allowed to call timeouts when the ball is in play

5. 10-second backcourt clock will not reset after a timeout

6. Class B technical foul for delay of game violations, like breaking timeout huddles late or taking too long to substitute after a player fouls out

Like a lot of these. The 30-second clock will speed up halfcourt possessions and reduce endgame fouling. No one is going to miss that 5th timeout. Would have preferred a complete removal of timeouts while the ball is in play, but restricting it to players is an improvement and will make the game easier to officiate. Adding the one-shot technical increases the chances of enforcing the delay of game stuff - two shots and the ball might be too steep a penalty for some refs to pull the trigger, but would whistle a one-shot penalty.

Not much specifics on the physicality rules changes. Requests to enforce a lot of the freedom of movement rules installed two years ago, like reducing contact on perimeter players and forcing screeners to hold still. The most noticable rule change if adopted would be moving the charge/block arc out to 4 feet from basket to reduce basket collisions.

Also proposed was removing a couple of antiquated rules. Ditch the "five seconds while closely guarded" rule, which is hardly ever called and only existed to give defenses another weapon to counter stalling techniques during the no-shot-clock era. Also suggested is lifting the ban on pregame dunks, allowing players to dunk during pregame warmups.

Expansions of video reviews, like allowing video review on any potential shot clock violation. Also a proposal giving refs more latitude during video review of flagrant fouls, letting refs call Class B technicals on floppers if a flop triggered a video review. (KU superfans are already calling this the "Marcus Smart Rule")

How about they stop calling ticky-tack, hand check fouls. That should shave 20 minutes off each game.

NO. They need to call ALL the fouls to open the game up.

oooffff

 

[Captain Quinoa]

Early Top 25:

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/25138457/virginia-headlines-ridiculously-early-preseason-top-25-and-one

After Hammons decides to stay and they land Swanigan on Saturday, Purdue will vault into the top 10.

Big Sauce @Biggs_Swanigan · 7m 7 minutes ago

#BoilerUp

 

[Spartans Rule]

Early Top 25:

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/25138457/virginia-headlines-ridiculously-early-preseason-top-25-and-one

After Hammons decides to stay and they land Swanigan on Saturday, Purdue will vault into the top 10.

Big Sauce @Biggs_Swanigan · 7m 7 minutes ago

#BoilerUp

Has he actually signed his letter? His tweets mean nothing <_<

 

[Sammy3469]

Early Top 25:

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/25138457/virginia-headlines-ridiculously-early-preseason-top-25-and-one

After Hammons decides to stay and they land Swanigan on Saturday, Purdue will vault into the top 10.

Big Sauce @Biggs_Swanigan · 7m 7 minutes ago

#BoilerUp

Has he actually signed his letter? His tweets mean nothing <_<

The big man has to eat!

 

[BroncoFreak_2K3]

Early Top 25:

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/25138457/virginia-headlines-ridiculously-early-preseason-top-25-and-one

After Hammons decides to stay and they land Swanigan on Saturday, Purdue will vault into the top 10.

Big Sauce @Biggs_Swanigan · 7m 7 minutes ago

#BoilerUp

If true, enjoy him for the only year you'll have him. This kid Roosevelt Barnes, his "handler",wants to fast track it to the NBA.

 

[Raider Nation]

Given the opportunity to reunite with star forward Anthony Davis, Kentucky coach John Calipari has made it known to New Orleans Pelicans officials that he's interested in the team's vacant head-coaching job, a source close to Calipari said Tuesday.

 

[Captain Quinoa]

Early Top 25:

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/25138457/virginia-headlines-ridiculously-early-preseason-top-25-and-one

After Hammons decides to stay and they land Swanigan on Saturday, Purdue will vault into the top 10.

Big Sauce @Biggs_Swanigan · 7m 7 minutes ago

#BoilerUp

If true, enjoy him for the only year you'll have him. This kid Roosevelt Barnes, his "handler",wants to fast track it to the NBA.

I will enjoy every second of it! His trolling Sparty along the way makes me like him even more.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Given the opportunity to reunite with star forward Anthony Davis, Kentucky coach John Calipari has made it known to New Orleans Pelicans officials that he's interested in the team's vacant head-coaching job, a source close to Calipari said Tuesday.

Sounds like a perfect NBA candidate.

 

[yellowdog]

Given the opportunity to reunite with star forward Anthony Davis, Kentucky coach John Calipari has made it known to New Orleans Pelicans officials that he's interested in the team's vacant head-coaching job, a source close to Calipari said Tuesday.

How long before all of Calipari's wins at Kentucky are vacated?

 

[Good Posting Judge]

It's possible. But at the same time, you have to figure that he's gotten pretty good at this.

 

[Sammy3469]

It's possible. But at the same time, you have to figure that he's gotten pretty good at this.

The cynic in me thinks Cal knows the one and done gig may be close to being done in Kentucky. I know he has Skal and Briscoe from this class, but he whiffed on a lot of kids (or more than in the past) and at least at this point the top of next year's class doesn't seem to be leaning to UK that much.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

It's possible. But at the same time, you have to figure that he's gotten pretty good at this.

The cynic in me thinks Cal knows the one and done gig may be close to being done in Kentucky. I know he has Skal and Briscoe from this class, but he whiffed on a lot of kids (or more than in the past) and at least at this point the top of next year's class doesn't seem to be leaning to UK that much.

It seems like there's a lot of variance to his strategy, but at worst he's still going to be pretty good. But maybe you're right. It's a little shocking that he lost a straight-up recruiting battle to the Cal Bears.

 

[Spartans Rule]

FWIW...

John Calipari @UKCoachCalipari · 48m 48 minutes ago

Even though Anthony and Tyreke are in NOLA, I have no interest in the Pelicans or any other job. I have a great job and I'm happy at UK.

 

[Sammy3469]

It's possible. But at the same time, you have to figure that he's gotten pretty good at this.

The cynic in me thinks Cal knows the one and done gig may be close to being done in Kentucky. I know he has Skal and Briscoe from this class, but he whiffed on a lot of kids (or more than in the past) and at least at this point the top of next year's class doesn't seem to be leaning to UK that much.

It seems like there's a lot of variance to his strategy, but at worst he's still going to be pretty good. But maybe you're right. It's a little shocking that he lost a straight-up recruiting battle to the Cal Bears.

And the "package" in the '16 class (Tatum/Giles/Smith...if they do decide to go to the same place) seems more in line with Duke than UK at this point. Granted he's got 3 or 4 guys in the 8-15 range he seems to be leading for, but you really need the top of the class guys for the strategy to work especially this year as he'll be losing Poythress and Skal at a minimum and probably Lee as well.

I just think he's sort of in this weird position where there's a shot that '16/'17 could be a pretty down year and the Pellies are a great escape while he's still on top.

 

[Sinn Fein]

I think he has been getting hammered on the recruiting trail about leaving, hence the tweet - but he just signed another extension - paying him $8M per, so I think he will be staying for the foreseeable future. I think he might have wanted to got to Cleveland, but Blatt seems safe for now.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

It's possible. But at the same time, you have to figure that he's gotten pretty good at this.

The cynic in me thinks Cal knows the one and done gig may be close to being done in Kentucky. I know he has Skal and Briscoe from this class, but he whiffed on a lot of kids (or more than in the past) and at least at this point the top of next year's class doesn't seem to be leaning to UK that much.

It seems like there's a lot of variance to his strategy, but at worst he's still going to be pretty good. But maybe you're right. It's a little shocking that he lost a straight-up recruiting battle to the Cal Bears.

And the "package" in the '16 class (Tatum/Giles/Smith...if they do decide to go to the same place) seems more in line with Duke than UK at this point. Granted he's got 3 or 4 guys in the 8-15 range he seems to be leading for, but you really need the top of the class guys for the strategy to work especially this year as he'll be losing Poythress and Skal at a minimum and probably Lee as well.

I just think he's sort of in this weird position where there's a shot that '16/'17 could be a pretty down year and the Pellies are a great escape while he's still on top.

But, if the NBA doesn't work out again, there's a very slim chance he has a landing spot that's anywhere near as good as Kentucky is now. And this may be a low ebb for his system, but his chances at success are still far, far, far better in college than the NBA.

Cal's also making more ($8mm) than all NBA coaches except Saunders (9mm), Rivers (10mm), and Pop (11mm). As a reference point, Donovan just got 6mm from OKC.

 

[Sammy3469]

It's possible. But at the same time, you have to figure that he's gotten pretty good at this.

The cynic in me thinks Cal knows the one and done gig may be close to being done in Kentucky. I know he has Skal and Briscoe from this class, but he whiffed on a lot of kids (or more than in the past) and at least at this point the top of next year's class doesn't seem to be leaning to UK that much.

It seems like there's a lot of variance to his strategy, but at worst he's still going to be pretty good. But maybe you're right. It's a little shocking that he lost a straight-up recruiting battle to the Cal Bears.

And the "package" in the '16 class (Tatum/Giles/Smith...if they do decide to go to the same place) seems more in line with Duke than UK at this point. Granted he's got 3 or 4 guys in the 8-15 range he seems to be leading for, but you really need the top of the class guys for the strategy to work especially this year as he'll be losing Poythress and Skal at a minimum and probably Lee as well.

I just think he's sort of in this weird position where there's a shot that '16/'17 could be a pretty down year and the Pellies are a great escape while he's still on top.

But, if the NBA doesn't work out again, there's a very slim chance he has a landing spot that's anywhere near as good as Kentucky is now. And this may be a low ebb for his system, but his chances at success are still far, far, far better in college than the NBA.

Cal's also making more ($8mm) than all NBA coaches except Saunders (9mm), Rivers (10mm), and Pop (11mm). As a reference point, Donovan just got 6mm from OKC.

I didn't realize he was making 8 million. JFC.

I do think the right situation (the Pellies with Davis being one of them) in the NBA better than UK. If he truly likes to coach more than being seen as a coach, then coaching the guy who should be the best basketball player on the planet in 2 years is sort of hard to pass up. Once you have that piece, it's sort of hard to not be successful in the NBA.

 

[Captain Quinoa]

As in Flip? 9 mil?

 

[Bruce Dickinson]

As in Flip? 9 mil?

Yep. Salary covers multiple job titles with the team. Originally brought back to be the GM, couldn't find anybody to take the head coaching job so he named himself coach, too.

 

[QuizGuy66]

NJIT HAS A HOME!



http://www.sbnation.com/2015/6/11/8768315/njit-division-is-last-independent-reportedly-joins-atlantic-sun

-QG