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Capella said:
I’m just saying that we obviously aren’t a basketball school. Syracuse is...and is now completely mediocre at it. 
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Next time you're watching The Express ask yourself how many movies were ever made about FSU football (besides the 30 for 30's about players stealing clothes or food or whatever).

 
Capella said:
Fsu basketball is certainly more competitive than Syracuse football. And fsu football has been way more dominant than Syracuse basketball. :yes: :own3d:  
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Jim Brown, Ernie Davis, Floyd Little. Larry Csonka, the list goes on and on and on and on and on. Nothing but class and grace. Who is FSU's all time best player? This guy? Disgraceful.

 
Moe. said:
What is the committee supposed to do with the 4 8-10 Big 12 teams? Pretty hard to separate them. OU-OSU on Wednesday should be a play-in game. 
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Excellent question.  They're all 18-12 or 18-13, too.  
Oklahoma State had the weakest overall SOS but swept Kansas, beat Tech once, and beat WVU in Morgantown.
Oklahoma had the best OOC run but hasn't had a notable win since late January.  
Texas played a really tough schedule but only won one road game in the Big XII.  
Baylor has a few blowout wins propping up their KenPom rating but has some head-scratcher losses.
 

 
Bruce Dickinson said:
Excellent question.  They're all 18-12 or 18-13, too.  
Oklahoma State had the weakest overall SOS but swept Kansas, beat Tech once, and beat WVU in Morgantown.
Oklahoma had the best OOC run but hasn't had a notable win since late January.  
Texas played a really tough schedule but only won one road game in the Big XII.  
Baylor has a few blowout wins propping up their KenPom rating but has some head-scratcher losses.
 
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I have them all out.

 
Nipsey said:
Give me a break. 4 years of sanctions for Cuse. Got to a final 4 right in the middle of it. Haven't been able to develop guys like other programs. Sanctions now over, next year Cuse back to top NCAA seed. Bazely, Carey, Elijah Hughes coming in. If Battle stays team is potential juggernaut.

You're wrong about Stallings too. Good coach who came into very difficult situation.
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I hope you're more correct about Cuse than you are about Stallings.  He destroyed last year's team that had Sweet 16 potential and his recruits have shown no signs of being able to compete in the ACC. 

Signed, Pitt fan since 1971.

 
Great 1st half performance by FSU today. Awful team. Really hope the committee takes a long look and realizes how bad they are.

 
Don't Noonan said:
FSU has a current RPI of 43, I can't remember the last time a power 5 school had an RPI that low and didn't make the tourney.
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Cuse RPI 37. All we hear is today a must win. FSU looks like a d2 school today, .500 in conference, and they're supposedly in comfortably. This fsu-lou game should be a play-in game.

 
Nipsey said:
Great 1st half performance by FSU today. Awful team. Really hope the committee takes a long look and realizes how bad they are.
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Look man, you guys are literally nothing in this conference. If it wasn’t for FSU saving ACC football you guys would be in the AAC or the MAC or whatever dumping ground you could find. Be thankful you get all that sweet football money that you didn’t earn and take your back seat. 

 
Don't Noonan said:
FSU has a current RPI of 43, I can't remember the last time a power 5 school had an RPI that low and didn't make the tourney.
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The lowest I’ve seen them on a bracket is 9 so I think they are fine but I won’t be upset if they miss it. They’re pretty terrible. Wish they’d move on from Hamilton already. 

 
facook said:
“I asked the legendary Bill Raftery today if he's ever thought about joining Twitter. His outstanding response: “No, and I’ll tell you why -- because at 11:30 at night when I’ve had my 10th drink, I’m liable to say something that will cost me my job.””

God I rove heem. 
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I went to college with one of his daughters and have seen him in action at a NYE party and at a house party down the shore - he certainly knocks them back.

 
Capella said:
Look man, you guys are literally nothing in this conference. If it wasn’t for FSU saving ACC football you guys would be in the AAC or the MAC or whatever dumping ground you could find. Be thankful you get all that sweet football money that you didn’t earn and take your back seat. 
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Ridiculous. We had one bad run in football, the Greg Robinson era. The program was robust before that, national title contender and winning a few. And we were winning the right way, a way that we could be proud of, not the FSU way of taking recruits on shopping sprees and whatever else went on at that hellhole. I'm embarrassed to be in the same conference with that school. If they booted them tomorrow for the University of Phoenix it would be an upgrade in almost every way. Enjoy your crab legs.

 
Nipsey said:
Ridiculous. We had one bad run in football, the Greg Robinson era. The program was robust before that, national title contender and winning a few. And we were winning the right way, a way that we could be proud of, not the FSU way of taking recruits on shopping sprees and whatever else went on at that hellhole. I'm embarrassed to be in the same conference with that school. If they booted them tomorrow for the University of Phoenix it would be an upgrade in almost every way. Enjoy your crab legs.
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Your program has been garbage for 20 years. That’s not a bad run, that’s what you are. 

Just know every time your school cashes that’s 20M dollar check it’s because of FSU football. You should send it back and join Conference USA or something where you could occasionally compete for a division title. 

 
Capella said:
Also, while 0-19 can’t be excused, the mediocre or worse performances of Syracuse and Pitt in the ACC kinda make me think the old big east was always just the junior league. 
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Pitt was never a consistently good team in the Big East. They had a few good seasons for a brief period. Syracuse was just in the Final Four a few years back - albeit in a surprising fashion.

 
Capella said:
Your program has been garbage for 20 years. That’s not a bad run, that’s what you are. 

Just know every time your school cashes that’s 20M dollar check it’s because of FSU football. You should send it back and join Conference USA or something where you could occasionally compete for a division title. 
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Absurd. Went to something like 6 bowls in 8 years before Greg Robinson arrived. Doug Marrone rights the ship and then Daryl Gross makes crap hire #2 with Scott Shafer. A step back for a little bit and now Dino Babers has things looking up again. Stick to the facts. 1-0 record vs. CFP teams this year. Only 2 other teams in the country can say that.

 
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I don't know cappy, I'd be nervous if I was a seminole fan after watching this game! I have the Cuse IN baby!

 
Nipsey said:
**** Vitale‏Verified account @DickieV

I don't know cappy, I'd be nervous if I was a seminole fan after watching this game! I have the Cuse IN baby!
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:lmao:  I honestly don’t care if they make it. If they do they’d be an 8/9 who gets run off the court by the 1. Football season is 6 months away (sorry Cuse fans). 

 
JuniorGong said:
Syracuse's all-time leading rusher is from my hometown, Joe Morris.
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Wow! I "ran" track against Jamie Morris when I was in 7th grade and he was a freshman. I think he lapped me in the 100.

#WachusettLeague

 
Nipsey said:
Absurd. Went to something like 6 bowls in 8 years before Greg Robinson arrived. Doug Marrone rights the ship and then Daryl Gross makes crap hire #2 with Scott Shafer. A step back for a little bit and now Dino Babers has things looking up again. Stick to the facts. 1-0 record vs. CFP teams this year. Only 2 other teams in the country can say that.
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:lmao:

Too bad they count games against Middle Tennessee too

 
Don't Noonan said:
FSU has a current RPI of 43, I can't remember the last time a power 5 school had an RPI that low and didn't make the tourney.
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This info from Jerry Palm is from 2016:

Among the Big Six (including Big East): 
•  40 - Cincinnati (2006) 
•  41 - Florida State (2007) 
•  45 - Clemson (2007) 
•  49 - Missouri (2014)

 
Capella said:
You know what Syracuse never has to sweat out? Being competitive in football. 
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Lost 27-24 just this past season vs. your lousy "school" on your field. I guess a 3 point game isn't "being competitive". smh

 
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"The Penn State thing came out and the kid behind this is trying to get money," Boeheim said back in 2011. "He’s tried before. And now he’s trying again. If he gets this, he’s going to sue the university and Bernie. What do you think is going to happen at Penn State? You know how much money is going to be involved in civil suits? I’d say about $50 million. That’s what this is about. Money."
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whaaaaaaaaaaat a bag of #### that guy is. How do you support him? What is wrong with you? Just for some 20-12 seasons? 

 
Capella said:
Can’t beleive you’d bring up another school’s issues while you are basically Penn State Jr. 
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On April 13, 2012, one of Fine's accusers said he "fabricated everything" and had never even met Fine.[12]

Ultimately, two of his accusers, Zach Tomaselli (who was serving a 39-month prison sentence for molesting a teenage boy, and who admitted he lied about Fine partly as payback for SU beating Tomaselli’s favorite team, Kansas, for the national title in 2003) and Floyd Van Hooser (who was serving 17 years to life in state prison for repeated robberies), admitted that they lied when they made child-molesting claims against Fine.[5][13]

On November 9, 2012, federal prosecutors announced Fine would not be charged regarding the criminal investigation of child molesting accusations.[14] Nevertheless, the case cost Fine his job, turned him into a recluse, and forced him to put his house up for sale.[5]

 
Nipsey said:
On April 13, 2012, one of Fine's accusers said he "fabricated everything" and had never even met Fine.[12]

Ultimately, two of his accusers, Zach Tomaselli (who was serving a 39-month prison sentence for molesting a teenage boy, and who admitted he lied about Fine partly as payback for SU beating Tomaselli’s favorite team, Kansas, for the national title in 2003) and Floyd Van Hooser (who was serving 17 years to life in state prison for repeated robberies), admitted that they lied when they made child-molesting claims against Fine.[5][13]

On November 9, 2012, federal prosecutors announced Fine would not be charged regarding the criminal investigation of child molesting accusations.[14] Nevertheless, the case cost Fine his job, turned him into a recluse, and forced him to put his house up for sale.[5]
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You skimmed over a lot there. 

n November 2011 two step-brothers who were former Syracuse University ball boys alleged on ESPN's Outside the Lines program that they had been molested by Fine from the late 1970s to the 1990s.[5] Fine and head men's basketball coach Boeheim denied the charges. Because the incidents occurred over 10 years prior, District Attorney William Fitzpatrick indicated that the statute of limitationswould probably bar any prosecution.[6] Syracuse University placed Fine on administrative leave and said it would cooperate fully with the investigation.[7][8]

Subsequently, a third and then a fourth person claimed to have been molested by Fine in 2002 in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. The United States Secret Service searched Fine's house and seized file cabinets, computers, and other potential evidence.[9]The investigation included more than 150 interviews with 130 witnesses, and a review of more than 100,000 pages of documents that included emails, travel records, financial records, computer records, and phone records.[5]

On November 27, 2011, Syracuse University Chancellor Nancy Cantor fired Fine in response to the allegations.[10] Cantor said she made her decision after ESPN released a tape of a 2002 phone conversation between one of the former ballboys, Bobby Davis, and Fine's wife Laurie. In the tape, Laurie claimed she knew about her husband's behavior, but felt powerless to stop it.

oof. 

 
Capella said:
You skimmed over a lot there. 

In the tape, Laurie claimed she knew about her husband's behavior, but felt powerless to stop it.
 
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She's a nut, no doubt about it. She sued ESPN over this though.

Anyway, there's no comparison to this and Penn State. Nobody was charged with a crime. Two guys who came forward admitted they made it up. The guys who accused Fine then sued Boeheim for saying they were out for money. Kind of ironic if you ask me. Finally, shame on you.

 
Capella said:
You skimmed over a lot there. 

n November 2011 two step-brothers who were former Syracuse University ball boys alleged on ESPN's Outside the Lines program that they had been molested by Fine from the late 1970s to the 1990s.[5] Fine and head men's basketball coach Boeheim denied the charges. Because the incidents occurred over 10 years prior, District Attorney William Fitzpatrick indicated that the statute of limitationswould probably bar any prosecution.[6] Syracuse University placed Fine on administrative leave and said it would cooperate fully with the investigation.[7][8]

Subsequently, a third and then a fourth person claimed to have been molested by Fine in 2002 in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. The United States Secret Service searched Fine's house and seized file cabinets, computers, and other potential evidence.[9]The investigation included more than 150 interviews with 130 witnesses, and a review of more than 100,000 pages of documents that included emails, travel records, financial records, computer records, and phone records.[5]

On November 27, 2011, Syracuse University Chancellor Nancy Cantor fired Fine in response to the allegations.[10] Cantor said she made her decision after ESPN released a tape of a 2002 phone conversation between one of the former ballboys, Bobby Davis, and Fine's wife Laurie. In the tape, Laurie claimed she knew about her husband's behavior, but felt powerless to stop it.

oof. 
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Would you stop for a second and just ####### GO in Cake Draft.  Jesus....

 
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