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fatness
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Schtick aside, I didn't find that to be true. Less than 1% of the time I owned dogs did I ever have to "be in charge" -- usually when connected with vehicular traffic which was beyond their comprehension levels. I'd tell them "stop", they'd later shove me and tell me it was time to go hiking or wading, or time to go to bed. Pretty equal relationship really,
fatness
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Jayrod
Footballguy
Yup standard behavior around here I guess. Make fun of any human condition you want, but don't dare suggest dogs or cats aren't equal to humans or you can be subject to any amount of mocking and name calling and even threats and insults to family members.ETA: and even staff members join in the piling on. Hooray!!
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not trying to pile on, and don't think the name calling is warranted.
but I think you've made your position on pets pretty clear over time, so I'm not sure why you are surprised by the responses you are getting.
but I think you've made your position on pets pretty clear over time, so I'm not sure why you are surprised by the responses you are getting.
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Jayrod
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Yeah, be careful Ned...aligning with me is dangerous around here. I made an off color joke about cats and suggested I might keep dogs outside. I'm public enemy #1.
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Jayrod
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Ummm yes, you were piling on and I guarantee you I am a great pet owner and love dogs.You read a handful of posts and think you know everything about my relationship with pets?
We have had two cats in the last 12 years and have taken great care of them. Cinnamon was a beautiful orange Tabby that we kept exclusively indoors. It came to us declawed but it started bolting out once we had our son and one time never came home. We put up fliers and looked for her for a month. We were upset for a long time over losing her.
A year later my wife wanted another cat, so we adopted a black kitten named Frankie. He was a boy and we had problems with him peeing on things. He was neutered, but we still had issues with him peeing. We became religious about changing his litter daily (fell on me alone during baby#2) and the peeing stopped. Then we moved into a house with three other cats (my grandmas) while we waited for our new house purchase via short sale to go through. A year later, we are still here waiting. Frank had issues peeing around a lot, but seems to have settled in finally. At one point I was the ONLY one who wanted to still keep him.
Now when we finally close on the house, we want to bring in a dog or two. I have learned a lot today and contrary to popular belief want to take great care of the dog or dogs. I didn't know about the whole dogs needing to be with their people thing because I haven't had a dog in about 18 years. Why? Because I knew I couldn't take proper care of it.
Now I know I can and will take good care of the dog. Am I arrogant and stubborn? Hell yes and so are most of you. At least I can admit I was wrong.
And as for the past 2 cat threads. I think feral cats should be euthanized, not neutered/spayed and rereleased. I think the whole idea was asinine but did go too far in that thread. For that I'm sorry. As for the poor guy who was tormented when asking for advice about getting rid of his cats at his wife's request, I still stand behind the idea that marriage is way more valuable than any pet and will argue with anyone who suggests otherwise. I love pets but they are absolutely second class citizens compared to any person. I'm sorry if you disagree, but I think the alternative is a very messed up set of priorities. I maybe could have worded things better, but I stand by the basis of my arguments in there.
I take all living things very seriously and am not entering into dog ownership lightly. Any dog we own will be with us for life I promise that and will be loved and well cared for.
If you have a problem with any of that then so be it. But don't be a jerk Aaron and then act like it's justified and I brought it on myself.
I've seen what you've posted here in the past on several different occasions. I'm not reading something into your posts that isn't there, as clearly many many others here have picked up on the same exact themes.
As I said originally, I think you like to
. I notice you often take rather extreme positions on a topic which are almost certain to generate strong reactions, and then you tend to dig in your heels when people start to question them.
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Yup you've gotten me all figured out Aaron. I'm a longtime fisherman in here. In fact, I don't even believe in Jesus. I think abortion is awesome and that divorcing your wife because she wants to get rid of your cats is a great idea.I've seen what you've posted here in the past on several different occasions. I'm not reading something into your posts that isn't there, as clearly many many others here have picked up on the same exact themes.
As I said originally, I think you like to
I take stances on things that I think matter. Outside of going to far in the feral cat thread and making outlandish claims about LeBron's jumpshot because I think Cliff is a blowhard, what other extreme positions have I taken?
It seems like you are remembering a couple of recent instances and equating that to my entire personality. I've got like 8 years of posting history in here. I've very rarely fished people and can't even think of anything outside of the LeBron jump shot stuff that was blatently fishing. The rest of it could maybe be just some escalations on some point in a debate, but that would even be few and far between.
I do think differently than the majority of people in here because I think the Bible is legit and believe in Jesus. Pretty much all of my major disagreements with people stem from that. That and my hoops skills. But rest assured, those aren't fishing trips. I think marriage and children and people in general are absolutely the most valuable things on this planet and I hate anything that threatens those things.
McGarnicle
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Makes sense. Jesus was known to call people Captain Jackass.
fatness
Footballguy
I get it now. Pets threaten your family.
Instead of getting 2 dogs I suggest you go to a bait and tackle shop, get 3 dozen crappie minnows for $5, and slap the #### out of them. Show them who's boss. That's the only way to keep them from threatening you.
Jayrod
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fatness
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well, those are the two instances that came to mind immediately and probably what I associate with you the most, right or wrong. I never had an issue with you really apart from thinking you were twisted in that feral cat thread, and I obviously don't see everything you post.
not saying I had you figured out by any stretch, but my impression of you was certainly informed by your posting in those specific threads along with some others that were probably related to some extent.
I wouldn't have even said anything or gotten involved today, but you reported some stuff and that got me to take a look. When I started reading the thread(s), it seemed like you were again taking a very strong stance and generating a lot of strong reactions. Some were pretty mild (IMO) by saying you shouldn't get a dog, but you responded by calling them jackasses. I understand why you felt defensive, but I do think you brought some of it on yourself given your previous posts on cats/pets/dogs, whatever.
I never came out and said what you were thinking of doing was inhumane, even though I do find some of your takes on pets to be rather bizarre. I didn't mean to pile on either. I just didn't think you were being sincere. Seems like you were so I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt. Anyway, no hard feelings and good luck with whatever your family decides to do here.
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Buddy Ball 2K3
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Look, anyone that thinks a family dog should stay outside at all times shouldn't own dogs. They do not understand the mentality of dogs, the needs of dogs nor what goes into taking care of a dog physically and mentally. Advice was given and it wasn't received well, it then got ugly because it appears some people only want others to agree with them.
3C's
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Dogs need rules and boundaries like we all do but the need to be an "alpha dog" is based on flawed research.
http://www.whole-dog-journal.com/issues/14_12/features/Alpha-Dogs_20416-1.html
http://www.vcahospitals.com/main/pet-health-information/article/animal-health/dog-behavior-and-training-dominance-alpha-and-pack-leadership-what-does-it-really-mean/4947
3C's
Footballguy
Just another opinion. Not that you need another one. http://www.paw-rescue.org/PAW/PETTIPS/DogTip_BackyardDogs.php
AcerFC
Footballguy
holy ####
Amused to Death
Footballguy
Yeah no kidding. I was scared and I was just watching the video. They put a baby in front of one of them to help socialize it?? SMH.
Amused to Death
Footballguy
Some great info in there, but I really don't think Jayrod is interested in it. I've posted a few links and some advice based on personal experience but he hasn't posted any evidence he's actually taken the time to read it or even reply to my posts.
I posted earlier, even though he's going to discus this situation with his wife to persuade her to let the dogs indoors, that has red flags all over it. I predict there will be 2 new shelter dogs within a couple years. If you're persuading your wife to let the pets come inside, how dedicated will she be when weekend plans need to be cancelled because an issue came up with a dog? Or clean out an ear for a month and put drops in it because they got an ear infection? Or even do the necessary research to find a good breeder in the first place?
johnnycakes
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Paulymaggs
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You've got a big heart man, being the ONLY one who wanted to keep such a troublesome cat instead of killing it.
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