Need help understanding keeper league (1 Viewer)

[chasyone]

The keeper league I am in allows you to keep 0,1 or 2 players of your choice. All you have to do is give up the draft pick in which the player was drafted in the upcoming draft.

I have Cutler at a 14th rd pick. If I keep him I have to give up my 14th rd pick in next years draft.

The rules say if I keep him and give up the pick and then if I drop him mid season I must still give up that 14th pick in the draft but I already did.

Am I missing something or is that right?

How should it work if that doesn't sound right?

Thanks

 

[FF Wiseguy]

Yeah, your scenario doesn't really make any sense. They may be forcing you to keep players for multiple years? But you're right, otherwise, it shouldn't matter if you drop someone during the season after you've already kept them. Best to go to your LM and get clarification. He may not have thought it all the way through.

 

[Fantasy_Freak]

Do they mean if you trade him the draft value sticks with the player?

 

[Flying Elvis]

You definitely need the rule cleaned up, as it is unclear based on the way you've described it. It could be a penalty the next season because you dropped a keeper. Or it could mean the keeper status sticks with them for that season on the wire, so if somebody adds that guy they could keep him the next year at that price.

 

[FF Wiseguy]

Do they mean if you trade him the draft value sticks with the player?

This seems to be a good interpretation of the OP. However, if this is the case, you need the LM to clarify how long they keep their value for. Otherwise, the implication is that a player keeps their keeper price throughout the life of the league, which would be a very important thing to know in advance.

 

[Agent575]

The rules say if I keep him and give up the pick and then if I drop him mid season I must still give up that 14th pick in the draft but I already did.

Your commissioner needs to clean up that rule.

It could mean that if you drop him in the off-season you still lost the draft pick (if for some reason you would drop him in the offseason like a dynasty league).

If you give up the pick when declaring the keeper, then the pick should be gone and cannot be contested in the event you later drop the player anyway.

You may also want to makes sure there is clear wording about what occurs if you declare Cutler as your keeper and you already don't have that draft pick (in the event it was traded).

 

[chasyone]

The rules say if I keep him and give up the pick

and then if I drop him mid season I must still give up that 14th pick in the draft but I already did.

Your commissioner needs to clean up that rule.

It could mean that if you drop him in the off-

season you still lost the draft pick (if for some reason you would drop him in the offseason like a dynasty league).

If you give up the pick when declaring the

keeper, then the pick should be gone and

cannot be contested in the event you later drop the player anyway.

You may also want to makes sure there is clear

wording about what occurs if you declare Cutler as your keeper and you already don't have that draft pick (in the event it was traded).

I have to declare my keepers 2 weeks before the draft.

 

[Fantasy_Freak]

I am curious of the intention but I wonder if the goal is to have owners really think about who you keep, for example if you keep a first round pick who then gets injurred the first week and is done for the year, if you drop him you would lose your first round pick, but if you keep him on your team for the full year and he takes up the roster space.

As everyone esles stated probably best to get to the source as to the intentions as well as the proper understanding of the rules.

 

[chasyone]

In the beginning I thought that is was to make you think about who you want to keep.

If I keep Cutler next year and the season starts and I cut him cause he gets hurt why would I still have to give up the pick in the following years draft? I already gave up that pick in the previous

draft. Doesn'take sense

I will get my answers at our year end meeting. Thanks for all the responses

 

[GregR]

In the beginning I thought that is was to make you think about who you want to keep.

If I keep Cutler next year and the season starts and I cut him cause he gets hurt why would I still have to give up the pick in the following years draft? I already gave up that pick in the previous

draft. Doesn'take sense

I will get my answers at our year end meeting. Thanks for all the responses

I'd say ignore everything you're thinking above about it costing 2014 picks to have him on your roster in 2013, you're probably completely misreading.

Imagine you are the commish and your rules say: "A player can be kept the following year for a draft pick of the same round he was drafted the year before. A player acquired from waivers can be kept with <your last pick/a 20th pick/whatever your rules say>".

Ok, now imagine that you draft Cutler, drop him, and someone picks him back up. That owner goes to the commish arguing "Yes, Cutler was drafted, but the way he got to my roster was as a waiver pickup, so he should cost a 2014 pick that is the same as any other waiver pickup. Not the round he was drafted."

What your commish has likely tried to do is shut down that argument by clarifying that if the player was drafted in 2013, that round is his cost regardless of whether he hit waivers at some point midseason and was reacquired. It has nothing to do with you paying a 2014 pick for him being on your roster in 2013. It only clarifies his cost to keep him in 2014.

 

[Agent575]

In the beginning I thought that is was to make you think about who you want to keep.

If I keep Cutler next year and the season starts and I cut him cause he gets hurt why would I still have to give up the pick in the following years draft? I already gave up that pick in the previous

draft. Doesn'take sense

I will get my answers at our year end meeting. Thanks for all the responses

I'd say ignore everything you're thinking above about it costing 2014 picks to have him on your roster in 2013, you're probably completely misreading.

Imagine you are the commish and your rules say: "A player can be kept the following year for a draft pick of the same round he was drafted the year before. A player acquired from waivers can be kept with <your last pick/a 20th pick/whatever your rules say>".

Ok, now imagine that you draft Cutler, drop him, and someone picks him back up. That owner goes to the commish arguing "Yes, Cutler was drafted, but the way he got to my roster was as a waiver pickup, so he should cost a 2014 pick that is the same as any other waiver pickup. Not the round he was drafted."

What your commish has likely tried to do is shut down that argument by clarifying that if the player was drafted in 2013, that round is his cost regardless of whether he hit waivers at some point midseason and was reacquired. It has nothing to do with you paying a 2014 pick for him being on your roster in 2013. It only clarifies his cost to keep him in 2014.

Oh...yeah. Tell your commish to clean that up cuz its worded poorly for sure.