Need to find some sleepers DL in a deep dynasty league (1 Viewer)

[JoeSteeler]

Team is in my sig. With Coleman out for part of the year and MK going to LB I am short on quality DL. Any suggestions?

TIA

 

[Jene Bramel]

Team is in my sig. With Coleman out for part of the year and MK going to LB I am short on quality DL. Any suggestions?TIA

You gotta do a little work for us in a league this deep. Who've you got in mind so far? Scoring system?In a tackle heavy league, there'll be a few new 3-4 ends that could squeeze out some top 20 value -- i.e. Marcus Spears, Ray McDonald, Robaire Smith. Antwan Odom is getting the first crack at some PT across from KVB in Tennessee. He's been an injury tease for years but fits the deeeep sleeper mold.

 

[JoeSteeler]

- Solo Tackles 2 points

- Assisted Tackles 1 point

- Sacks 4 points

- Half Sacks 2 points

- Pass Defensed 2 points

- Interceptions 5 points

- Touchdowns 6 points

- Forced Fumbles/Fumbles Recovered 3 points

- Safeties 5 points

Matt Roth is a FA and I was thinking of going after him. Thoughts?

I will compile a list of other FA in our league and post. Thanks for the help!

 

[Jene Bramel]

- Solo Tackles 2 points- Assisted Tackles 1 point - Sacks 4 points - Half Sacks 2 points - Pass Defensed 2 points- Interceptions 5 points- Touchdowns 6 points - Forced Fumbles/Fumbles Recovered 3 points- Safeties 5 pointsMatt Roth is a FA and I was thinking of going after him. Thoughts?I will compile a list of other FA in our league and post. Thanks for the help!

The 3-4 ends might work well in that system. Roth (and Justin Tuck was another that I considered as a guy who may no longer be rostered) is interesting as another 3-4 end who could provide some decent pass rush numbers. The Miami scheme won't be quite as favorable this season, though.

 

[WhoDat]

Have you had your rookie draft? The answer to that will help folks answer your question, as there are some sleepers at DE in the rookie class.

 

[JoeSteeler]

No, haven't had the rookie draft but I only have 2 picks. They are #40 and #41 overall.

Some other FA:

T Pryce

S Ellis

KGB

Haynesworth

P Spicer

W Sapp

B McCray

R Brock

One other aspect is that this is salary cap/contract league. I will be bidding for these players and I don't have a lot of cap room. That is why I am looking for players under the radar.

Who are some sleepers at DE in the draft I can target at the picks I have? By the way, Tuck is on a roster.

Thanks for all the help!

 

[Chaos Commish]

How many roster spots can you comfortably commit to DL?

 

[JoeSteeler]

How many roster spots can you comfortably commit to DL?

Six or seven at the most. As you can see from my team I have six right now though that might change if MK gets "classified" as a LB.I would like to cut Gabe Waton but I would take a cap hit for doing so.

 

[Beaumont]

No, haven't had the rookie draft but I only have 2 picks. They are #40 and #41 overall. Some other FA:T Pryce S Ellis KGB HaynesworthP Spicer W Sapp B McCrayR BrockOne other aspect is that this is salary cap/contract league. I will be bidding for these players and I don't have a lot of cap room. That is why I am looking for players under the radar. Who are some sleepers at DE in the draft I can target at the picks I have? By the way, Tuck is on a roster.Thanks for all the help!

I like Pryce out of this bunch ...

 

[Fantasy Football Junkie]

Are Mark Anderson and/or Brett Keisel still available?

 

[WhoDat]

Looks like the middle of your 3rd round

I keep pimping this kid, while being aware he is very much boom and bust, but I like Q. Moses. His price is right. His situation is better. His coach better yet.

 

[JoeSteeler]

Are Mark Anderson and/or Brett Keisel still available?

Both gone.

 

[Chaos Commish]

How many roster spots can you comfortably commit to DL?

Six or seven at the most. As you can see from my team I have six right now though that might change if MK gets "classified" as a LB.I would like to cut Gabe Waton but I would take a cap hit for doing so.

I ask because it's too early for our advice to be solid, but you could monopolize a spot that is going mostly ignored. Something like Ray Edwards, Dorrian Scott, and Brian Robison ®. I'm sure one of those three will be serviceable and possibly two. But then your scoring is tackle heavy so a 3-4 DE is probably the safer move. But which one? Tough call.

At 40 and 41 you might luck into a DL guaranteed to start, but it's unlikely. Adams, Anderson and Carriker seem like the locks to both start and be decent IDPs in your scoring. Okoye is interesting but I have stronger reservations than most.

Alama Francis and Moses have very little impeding the way, and both have nice potential. Charles Johnson has to get by Rucker but if he does, and I think he will, then you probably have a long-term solution in him. Crowder and Moss are in a crowded situation, so I personally would avoid them, but one could turn into a star. They are excellent athletes.

The complete FA list or a link to it, might be most helpful. Players like Hatcher and Spears may have increasing value with a new coach. A young beast just learning to lower his horns like Robert Geathers might be sitting there for all we know (that's for you Jene). Geathers is my DE sleeper for this season. It'll be like my Smoot/Edwards love last year. Since you're a Bengal fan, I'll ignore your opinion. Oh, and Ninkovich looked like a find prior to his injury. He has talented players ahead of him, but people get injured.

 

[Jene Bramel]

A young beast just learning to lower his horns like Robert Geathers might be sitting there for all we know (that's for you Jene). Geathers is my DE sleeper for this season. It'll be like my Smoot/Edwards love last year. Since you're a Bengal fan, I'll ignore your opinion.

Thanks, bub, that woke the baby.

 

[Chaos Commish]

A young beast just learning to lower his horns like Robert Geathers might be sitting there for all we know (that's for you Jene). Geathers is my DE sleeper for this season. It'll be like my Smoot/Edwards love last year. Since you're a Bengal fan, I'll ignore your opinion.

Thanks, bub, that woke the baby.

Sorry. Do you agree it's time for Geathers to shine? I sure do. He is a terrific talent. No? I'll probably ignore you, but that doesn't mean I'm not paying attention.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

If he's listed as a DL, Jarret Johnson is worth a flier.

 

[Jene Bramel]

A young beast just learning to lower his horns like Robert Geathers might be sitting there for all we know (that's for you Jene). Geathers is my DE sleeper for this season. It'll be like my Smoot/Edwards love last year. Since you're a Bengal fan, I'll ignore your opinion.

Thanks, bub, that woke the baby.

Sorry. Do you agree it's time for Geathers to shine? I sure do. He is a terrific talent. No? I'll probably ignore you, but that doesn't mean I'm not paying attention.

Okay, I'll play along on this trip. Yes, Geathers is a very good talent. A couple years ago, when I was a rare contributor around here, I was pimping him as the sleeper DE of 2005. He showed a quick burst off the edge, long arms and an ability to finish the play. He looked like a stud in the making at the weak side end.Then the Bengals sign Bryan Robinson, move Justin Smith to the open end and ask Geathers to gain 20 pounds and move inside as a third down pass rusher. The weight did nothing other than slow him down. Realizing their error, they asked him to slim back down and made him a nickel pass rusher/rare every down guy last year. Not only did his speed rush return, he seems to have grown into a smart run defender as well. He looked very good in pursuit and used his wingspan to control blockers. He didn't play much in non-passing situations but still managed 18 tackles in addition to his 10 sacks -- nearly all from the strong side.So, yeah, it's time for him to shine. I don't think he'll get too much more opportunity than he had last year, though, as the current winds suggest he'll be used exactly the same way. But, if Smith isn't signed long-term, Geathers has big upside at RDE and he's proven, to me anyway, that he can hold up reasonably well at LDE when Robinson's contract expires at the end of 2007.He's a very good situational play in all leagues this year but may not be a great every week starter in a league like the one currently in question unless one of the Bengal starters is injured.

 

[Chaos Commish]

Thanks. I did not realize he posted 10.5 sacks when I called him a sleeper. I guess I wasn't following that closely, but I agree with your report. What I saw while watching Cincy was an almost spectacular talent in the making, and a couple oversized overrateds getting too much PT. Not fishing, just having a little fun. Thanks again.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

I'm assuming D. Tapp (SEA) is gone?

I agree with Bloom on JJohnson.

Is Antwan Peek available (he's moving from DE to LB - depends on classification)?

 

[Chaos Commish]

I'm assuming D. Tapp (SEA) is gone?

I thought about him, but if Gabe Watson is rostered, I figured Tapp and the other 2nd year DEs would be tied up too. I get a crowded feeling with that situation in Seattle though.

 

[Jene Bramel]

My take(s):

I'd cut Watson for a player with better value if you can absorb the cost.

And, looking at what's left on your wire, I think I look at Roth or another 3-4 end before an inconsistent edge rusher. Ellis would fit well, but the Jets may do the rotational thing this year so he's risky. Kevin Carter is listed, but is another guy who may be in a better position this season in TB.

Rookie DL are often a poor use of draft picks, but in a deep league with questionable options on the wire I think I'd look to the rookie draft. Again, you want to target the guys who will provide a good tackle base in this league. Someone with double digit sack upside on top of the 40-45 tackle base is gravy.

All of these guys have risk, but in this draft, that includes...

Jamaal Anderson -- Far and away the best option IMO. Potential double digit sack guy across from John Abraham who could push the 50 tackle mark as he grows against the run. And he plays every down from opening weekend 2007.

Charles Johnson -- Right on Anderson's heels, but may not contribute until 2008.

Both of those guys have Charles Grant, circa 2004, ceilings.

Adam Carriker -- It's worth taking a hard look at this guy as well. He's seeing some time at NT in mini-camps unfortunately, but he'll ultimately play a 3-technique role. Carriker may have the same kind of talent that allowed guys like Rod Coleman, Kevin Williams, Warren Sapp and Vonnie Holliday to put up 45-8 type numbers.

The Adams, Moss, Moses, Alama-Francis, Robison are interesting and one of them will probably become a 45-10 guy but carry a little higher risk for the same upside in your scoring system.

Down the line, you're going to want to watch Turk McBride (KC) and Greg Peterson (TB) as 3-technique DTs with potential.

 

[JoeSteeler]

OK here is everyone!

Pryce T, BAL

Sapp W, OAK

Ellis S, NYJ

Brock R, IND

Robertson D, NYJ

Spires G, TB

McCray B, JAC

Pickett R, GB

Spicer P, JAC

Hovan C, TB

Walker D, BUF

Carter K, TB

Wilfork V, NE

Gbaja-Biamila K, GB

Thomas H, NO

Williams C, GB

Glover L, STL

Washington T, CLE

Williams P, MIN

Golston K, WAS

Jenkins C, GB

Kennedy J, STL

Cesaire J, SD

Williams K, BUF

Fraser S, CLE

Jenkins K, CAR

Roth M, MIA

Carrington P, ATL

McFarland A, IND

Peko D, CIN

Starks R, TEN

Tapp D, SEA

Brayton T, OAK

Davis C, ATL

Maddox A, HOU

Robinson B, CIN

Coleman K, DAL

Ferguson J, DAL

Thomas J, PHI

Brown T, TEN

Darby C, SEA

McKinley A, DEN

Smith R, CLE

Engelberger J, DEN

Cole C, GB

Reed J, KC

Bell M, NYG

Babineaux J, ATL

Meier R, JAC

Tripplett L, BUF

Hampton C, PIT

Jackson G, ATL

Davis R, SEA

Veal D, DEN

Wyms E, TB

Haynesworth A, TEN

Johnson T, CHI

Warren G, DEN

Clancy K, ARI

Canty C, DAL

Kemoeatu M, CAR

Olshansky I, SD

Smith A, ARI

Bowens D, MIA

Lewis D, CAR

Scott I, PHI

Wallace A, fa

Boone A, CHI

Ratliff J, DAL

Stills G, BAL

Zgonina J, HOU

Cooper C, ARI

Hamilton B, OAK

Sopoaga I, SF

Anderson T, BUF

Stroud M, JAC

Von Oelhoffen K, NYJ

Fields R, SF

Johnson J, BAL

Joseph W, NYG

Mallard J, ATL

Reid D, IND

DeVries J, DET

Kalu N, HOU

Wilkerson J, KC

Eason N, PIT

Edwards R, KC

Fisk J, STL

Evans D, WAS

Adams A, CHI

Thomas J, IND

Idonije I, CHI

Green B, SEA

Terrill C, fa

Hatcher J, DAL

Johnstone L, OAK

Montgomery M, GB

McDaniel T, JAC

Robinson D, SD

Franklin A, SF

Johnson T, HOU

Schobel B, IND

Smith C, DET

Wilkinson D, MIA

Adams S, CIN

McDougle J, PHI

Reagor M, PHI

Salave'a J, WAS

Bannan J, BAL

Kelley E, CLE

Haye J, fa

Huntley K, OAK

Jackson T, DET

Mitchell J, MIN

Payne S, fa

Wynn R, WAS

Leisle R, NO

Wiley M, fa

Bingham R, SD

Johnson S, MIN

Lake A, fa

Moorehead K, CAR

Shropshire D, ATL

Tafoya J, SEA

Whitehead W, NO

Awasom A, fa

Cooper J, NO

Hawkins B, JAC

Mahelona J, TEN

Dalton L, KC

Hawthorne A, OAK

Montgomery A, WAS

Rayburn S, PHI

Hoke C, PIT

Johnson T, HOU

Moore R, fa

Odom A, TEN

Cody S, DET

Mosley C, NYJ

Ramsey L, PHI

Smith S, CLE

Conover S, TEN

Edwards D, BAL

Hunter J, GB

Jenkins J, fa

Stanley M, DAL

Schable A, ARI

Bradley J, fa

Jackson T, ATL

Kirschke T, PIT

Moore E, STL

McCargo J, BUF

Pinkney C, fa

Tubbs M, SEA

Bryant A, ATL

Sims R, TB

Williams S, KC

Bailey R, ARI

Hicks E, KC

Irons G, OAK

Jolly J, GB

Kolodziej R, fa

Scott D, fa

Boschetti R, WAS

Fanene J, CIN

Klecko D, IND

Ninkovich R, NO

Ball D, NYJ

Bowen S, DAL

Duckett D, SF

Garay A, fa

Johnson T, NO

Killings C, HOU

Lewis J, ARI

McMillan D, CLE

McKinney B, SD

Parker J, DAL

Allen K, GB

Carstens J, CAR

Cochran E, HOU

Evans F, MIA

Moore L, ARI

Malone A, HOU

Oshinowo B, CLE

Pollard R, SEA

Riddle R, OAK

Cody D, BAL

Gbaja-Biamila A, SD

Glymph J, DAL

Jefferson J, fa

Peterson K, DEN

Savage J, TEN

Smith L, NE

Seawright J, NYG

Smith K, MIN

Sykes J, WAS

 

[Jene Bramel]

Thanks. I did not realize he posted 10.5 sacks when I called him a sleeper. I guess I wasn't following that closely, but I agree with your report. What I saw while watching Cincy was an almost spectacular talent in the making, and a couple oversized overrateds getting too much PT. Not fishing, just having a little fun. Thanks again.

I know. There should have been an extra smiley in there somewhere to get across my lightheaded tone.Or something like, say,

OMG, Anthony Spencer will be the bestest evah!!

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

I see Tapp.....

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Adams A, CHI

Adams S, CIN

Allen K, GB

Anderson T, BUF

Awasom A, fa

Babineaux J, ATL

Bailey R, ARI

Ball D, NYJ

Bannan J, BAL

Bell M, NYG

Bingham R, SD

Boone A, CHI

Boschetti R, WAS

Bowen S, DAL

Bowens D, MIA

Bradley J, fa

Brayton T, OAK

Brock R, IND

Brown T, TEN

Bryant A, ATL

Canty C, DAL

Carrington P, ATL

Carstens J, CAR

Carter K, TB

Cesaire J, SD

Clancy K, ARI

Cochran E, HOU

Cody D, BAL

Cody S, DET

Cole C, GB

Coleman K, DAL

Conover S, TEN

Cooper C, ARI

Cooper J, NO

Dalton L, KC

Darby C, SEA

Davis C, ATL

Davis R, SEA

DeVries J, DET

Duckett D, SF

Eason N, PIT

Edwards D, BAL

Edwards R, KC

Ellis S, NYJ

Engelberger J, DEN

Evans D, WAS

Evans F, MIA

Fanene J, CIN

Ferguson J, DAL

Fields R, SF

Fisk J, STL

Franklin A, SF

Fraser S, CLE

Garay A, fa

Gbaja-Biamila A, SD

Gbaja-Biamila K, GB

Glover L, STL

Glymph J, DAL

Golston K, WAS

Green B, SEA

Hamilton B, OAK

Hampton C, PIT

Hatcher J, DAL

Hawkins B, JAC

Hawthorne A, OAK

Haye J, fa

Haynesworth A, TEN

Hicks E, KC

Hoke C, PIT

Hovan C, TB

Hunter J, GB

Huntley K, OAK

Idonije I, CHI

Irons G, OAK

Jackson G, ATL

Jackson T, ATL

Jackson T, DET

Jefferson J, fa

Jenkins C, GB

Jenkins J, fa

Jenkins K, CAR

Johnson J, BAL

Johnson S, MIN

Johnson T, CHI

Johnson T, HOU

Johnson T, HOU

Johnson T, NO

Johnstone L, OAK

Jolly J, GB

Joseph W, NYG

Kalu N, HOU

Kelley E, CLE

Kemoeatu M, CAR

Kennedy J, STL

Killings C, HOU

Kirschke T, PIT

Klecko D, IND

Kolodziej R, fa

Lake A, fa

Leisle R, NO

Lewis D, CAR

Lewis J, ARI

Maddox A, HOU

Mahelona J, TEN

Mallard J, ATL

Malone A, HOU

McCargo J, BUF

McCray B, JAC

McDaniel T, JAC

McDougle J, PHI

McFarland A, IND

McKinley A, DEN

McKinney B, SD

McMillan D, CLE

Meier R, JAC

Mitchell J, MIN

Montgomery A, WAS

Montgomery M, GB

Moore E, STL

Moore L, ARI

Moore R, fa

Moorehead K, CAR

Mosley C, NYJ

Ninkovich R, NO

Odom A, TEN

Olshansky I, SD

Oshinowo B, CLE

Parker J, DAL

Payne S, fa

Peko D, CIN

Peterson K, DEN

Pickett R, GB

Pinkney C, fa

Pollard R, SEA

Pryce T, BAL

Ramsey L, PHI

Ratliff J, DAL

Rayburn S, PHI

Reagor M, PHI

Reed J, KC

Reid D, IND

Riddle R, OAK

Robertson D, NYJ

Robinson B, CIN

Robinson D, SD

Roth M, MIA

Salave'a J, WAS

Sapp W, OAK

Savage J, TEN

Schable A, ARI

Schobel B, IND

Scott D, fa

Scott I, PHI

Seawright J, NYG

Shropshire D, ATL

Sims R, TB

Smith A, ARI

Smith C, DET

Smith K, MIN

Smith L, NE

Smith R, CLE

Smith S, CLE

Sopoaga I, SF

Spicer P, JAC

Spires G, TB

Stanley M, DAL

Starks R, TEN

Stills G, BAL

Stroud M, JAC

Sykes J, WAS

Tafoya J, SEA

Tapp D, SEA

Terrill C, fa

Thomas H, NO

Thomas J, IND

Thomas J, PHI

Tripplett L, BUF

Tubbs M, SEA

Veal D, DEN

Von Oelhoffen K, NYJ

Walker D, BUF

Wallace A, fa

Warren G, DEN

Washington T, CLE

Whitehead W, NO

Wiley M, fa

Wilfork V, NE

Wilkerson J, KC

Wilkinson D, MIA

Williams C, GB

Williams K, BUF

Williams P, MIN

Williams S, KC

Wyms E, TB

Wynn R, WAS

Zgonina J, HOU

Alphabetized.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

OK, did I miss something - what's wrong with KGB?

 

[Jene Bramel]

That list isn't very juicy.

Cullen Jenkins, Kevin Carter, Bobby McCray, Matt Roth, Darryl Tapp, Antwan Odom and Domata Peko caught my eye in roughly that order. Might look at adding one of the first three or four, then hoping for some value in the draft.

 

[Jene Bramel]

OK, did I miss something - what's wrong with KGB?

One trick pony who has lost half a step. Almost certainly a situational guy behind Cullen Jenkins in 2007. He has to grab high double digit sacks to have value in this system. Even in his 12-13 sack years, he just squeezed into the top 20 in most tackle balanced leagues. He'd be a starter in a 16 teamer with a 35-12 season, but that's going to be a tough line to get in his current situation.

 

[JoeSteeler]

My take(s):I'd cut Watson for a player with better value if you can absorb the cost.And, looking at what's left on your wire, I think I look at Roth or another 3-4 end before an inconsistent edge rusher. Ellis would fit well, but the Jets may do the rotational thing this year so he's risky. Kevin Carter is listed, but is another guy who may be in a better position this season in TB.Rookie DL are often a poor use of draft picks, but in a deep league with questionable options on the wire I think I'd look to the rookie draft. Again, you want to target the guys who will provide a good tackle base in this league. Someone with double digit sack upside on top of the 40-45 tackle base is gravy.All of these guys have risk, but in this draft, that includes...Jamaal Anderson -- Far and away the best option IMO. Potential double digit sack guy across from John Abraham who could push the 50 tackle mark as he grows against the run. And he plays every down from opening weekend 2007.Charles Johnson -- Right on Anderson's heels, but may not contribute until 2008.Both of those guys have Charles Grant, circa 2004, ceilings.Adam Carriker -- It's worth taking a hard look at this guy as well. He's seeing some time at NT in mini-camps unfortunately, but he'll ultimately play a 3-technique role. Carriker may have the same kind of talent that allowed guys like Rod Coleman, Kevin Williams, Warren Sapp and Vonnie Holliday to put up 45-8 type numbers. The Adams, Moss, Moses, Alama-Francis, Robison are interesting and one of them will probably become a 45-10 guy but carry a little higher risk for the same upside in your scoring system.Down the line, you're going to want to watch Turk McBride (KC) and Greg Peterson (TB) as 3-technique DTs with potential.

Jene, I really appreciate your insight here! I have a chance to compete for the title this year (hopefully) and didn't want a low scoring d-line to slow me down. I was stunned when the story about Kiwanuka broke and when Coleman went down. DL don't score a ton in this league but just enough to make or break me!If Kiwanuka is still listed as a DL I wont have much to worry about but I am trying to make contingency plans assuming he wont be.

 

[JoeSteeler]

I see Tapp.....

I don't know much about Tapp admittedly. Can someone fill me in?I really appreciate everyone's input!

 

[Chaos Commish]

I see Tapp.....

I don't know much about Tapp admittedly. Can someone fill me in?I really appreciate everyone's input!

Tapp is a 6-1 DE in his second year. His claim to fame in college was dominating D'Brick as a senior. He is explosive off the edge and plays similar to the aforementioned Geathers. He is underrated in run support because he is lighter around 265, but he holds up nicely and is a decent playmaker. Fisher and Kerney block the way and a versatile big DE, Atkins, was added in this last draft. Thus, I think it's a little busy for someone with your needs, but Tapp is a nice player. I probably prefer Ray Edwards in his second year though. The path is not as difficult for him. Sapp interests me for a one year stopgap in your situation.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Brock R, IND

Glover L, STL

Haynesworth A, TEN

Jackson G, ATL

Johnson J, BAL

McCray B, JAC

Pryce T, BAL

Stroud M, JAC

Tapp D, SEA

Wilfork V, NE

Just picking some names that stood out to me.I don't know how you can go wrong with Trevor Pryce. That's a no-brainer to me.



Jarrett Johnson is next (as long as he holds the DE designation).



Raheem Brock is next for me. Stroud is good, and McCray just needs to stop pouting and sign.

The rest have upside.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Brock R, IND

Glover L, STL

Haynesworth A, TEN

Jackson G, ATL

Johnson J, BAL

McCray B, JAC

Pryce T, BAL

Stroud M, JAC

Tapp D, SEA

Wilfork V, NE

Just picking some names that stood out to me.I don't know how you can go wrong with Trevor Pryce. That's a no-brainer to me.



Jarrett Johnson is next (as long as he holds the DE designation).



Raheem Brock is next for me. Stroud is good, and McCray just needs to stop pouting and sign.

The rest have upside.

I wouldnt say Jackson has upside. He's embroiled in a dispute with his team including a lawsuit, rehabbing a surgically repaired knee, and even allegedly considering retirement. He also is a space eating NT who doesnt really generate stats.Stroud once was good, but seems to be wearing down.

Glover once was good, but is just old.

Haynesworth has never been a factor.

Wilfork is an ok desperation play I guess, but has very limited upside as an NT.

Pryce, Johnson, and Brock are indeed the best names on the list.

Tapp and McCray are the only other ones worth considering imo.

 

[Jene Bramel]

Can't articulate it well, but something rubs me the wrong way with Pryce this season. Overall age of the defense making it less likely that QBs will get pushed his way maybe, I don't know. I think I'd be selling high with him, but could be off.

Glover could be cut. Kennedy, Carriker, Wroten, and Clifton Ryan are probably the four tackles. Glover could make it if they roster Carriker as an end/tackle guy and make him the 4th DE per se. In any case, Carriker gets all the meaningful DT snaps next to Kennedy I'd think.

Haynesworth is interesting. He ripped off a pretty good stretch during the middle of 2005 but has just been too inconsistent otherwise. He's playing for his NFL life in a contract year this season, though, so there may be some value this year.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Brock R, IND

Glover L, STL

Haynesworth A, TEN

Jackson G, ATL

Johnson J, BAL

McCray B, JAC

Pryce T, BAL

Stroud M, JAC

Tapp D, SEA

Wilfork V, NE

Just picking some names that stood out to me.I don't know how you can go wrong with Trevor Pryce. That's a no-brainer to me.



Jarrett Johnson is next (as long as he holds the DE designation).



Raheem Brock is next for me. Stroud is good, and McCray just needs to stop pouting and sign.

The rest have upside.

I wouldnt say Jackson has upside. He's embroiled in a dispute with his team including a lawsuit, rehabbing a surgically repaired knee, and even allegedly considering retirement. He also is a space eating NT who doesnt really generate stats.Stroud once was good, but seems to be wearing down.

Glover once was good, but is just old.

Haynesworth has never been a factor.

Wilfork is an ok desperation play I guess, but has very limited upside as an NT.

Pryce, Johnson, and Brock are indeed the best names on the list.

Tapp and McCray are the only other ones worth considering imo.

OK - lumping everyone else as "they have upside" - not a good call.Really this should begin and end with the 3 guys I highlighted.

He's also, IIRC, looking for a 1 year stopgap guy to sure up his DL and go for the title.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Can't articulate it well, but something rubs me the wrong way with Pryce this season. Overall age of the defense making it less likely that QBs will get pushed his way maybe, I don't know. I think I'd be selling high with him, but could be off.Glover could be cut. Kennedy, Carriker, Wroten, and Clifton Ryan are probably the four tackles. Glover could make it if they roster Carriker as an end/tackle guy and make him the 4th DE per se. In any case, Carriker gets all the meaningful DT snaps next to Kennedy I'd think.Haynesworth is interesting. He ripped off a pretty good stretch during the middle of 2005 but has just been too inconsistent otherwise. He's playing for his NFL life in a contract year this season, though, so there may be some value this year.

Glover's name caught my eye, but I'll defer to Jene here - he has little dynasty value in any case.I think Hanynesworth is pretty interesting. He seems to be getting overlooked - maybe because he was a moron and stepped on a guy's head - but he does have talent.Not sure I'm with you on Pryce. I think that is his best option, and the old "all players have value" applies here - we're talking about his 40th-43rd roster spot.

 

[JoeSteeler]

Can't articulate it well, but something rubs me the wrong way with Pryce this season. Overall age of the defense making it less likely that QBs will get pushed his way maybe, I don't know. I think I'd be selling high with him, but could be off.Glover could be cut. Kennedy, Carriker, Wroten, and Clifton Ryan are probably the four tackles. Glover could make it if they roster Carriker as an end/tackle guy and make him the 4th DE per se. In any case, Carriker gets all the meaningful DT snaps next to Kennedy I'd think.Haynesworth is interesting. He ripped off a pretty good stretch during the middle of 2005 but has just been too inconsistent otherwise. He's playing for his NFL life in a contract year this season, though, so there may be some value this year.

Glover's name caught my eye, but I'll defer to Jene here - he has little dynasty value in any case.I think Hanynesworth is pretty interesting. He seems to be getting overlooked - maybe because he was a moron and stepped on a guy's head - but he does have talent.Not sure I'm with you on Pryce. I think that is his best option, and the old "all players have value" applies here - we're talking about his 40th-43rd roster spot.

Thanks a lot for the opinion Jeff! I just read how your other thread was hijacked and I think that is BS! You guys are here trying to give helpful advice/opinions and people want to insult you?? I just don't get it!

 

[TecmoBeast]

I think you'll Stroud, Pat Williams, and Shaun Ellis serviceable among that bunch with the 2-pt tackles. Get some steady tackle guys for the time being, then grab some young guys and hope they bust out. Nickovich and Tapp were already mentioned and you still got the draft

 

[BLOX]

Cullen Jenkins is definitely a guy you should consider in my opinion. He'll play end on 1st and 2nd downs and move inside on 3rd downs as KGB will come in on passing downs. He's a good run stopper and pass rusher and is also a good pass rusher at DT. He's not an every week starter, but against the Minnesota's and Detroit's of the NFL he would be a solid play imo.

In his first start in this format, he had a 3 sack game (vs Detroit) last year and was only used in the way described for the last three games of the season.

His stats for an entire season based on his performance the last three weeks:

48 Tackles, 32 Assists, 16 Sacks

Obviously the total sack number is higher than his ceiling which I'd put between 8-10, but the total tackle numbers should be accurate.

I'm not sure where this would place him, but it looks like at worst he'd be a very good DL#3.

 

[BearsFan]

That list isn't very juicy.Cullen Jenkins, Kevin Carter, Bobby McCray, Matt Roth, Darryl Tapp, Antwan Odom and Domata Peko caught my eye in roughly that order. Might look at adding one of the first three or four, then hoping for some value in the draft.

What's the take on Math Roth in Miami's hybrid 3-4? Should we expect 3-4, or 4-3, DE-type numbers, given the presence of Taylor and Porter?

 

[Toads]

Using the sort resources:

1.) Last 10 weeks sort shows Andre Carter DE-WAS knocked um dead, as in #2-#3 rated DE/DT.

2.) For some reason, Greg Spires DE-TBB lit it up for the last three weeks of the season. He's lsted as the starter for this year and he's got Gaines Adams playing opposite and a reasonable DL to absorb the double teams. He's way under the radar and comes cheap.

Two good ones.

 

[bcr8f]

Using the sort resources:

1.) Last 10 weeks sort shows Andre Carter DE-WAS knocked um dead, as in #2-#3 rated DE/DT.

Two good ones.

Carter turned it up down the stretch in my league.