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"Never Bench Your Studs" Does anyone really live by this? (1 Viewer)

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I'm planning on sitting Edwards at Ravens this week for Santana Moss vs Cardinals.

Hard to believe I'm benching a 2nd round WR for an 8-9th round WR, but why continue to start struggling studs? :eek:

Anyone else benching your early round studs for mid or late round guys this week?

 
Most of the time I agree with this, but you need to make adjustments sometimes.

Great Example: Most any Bengals right now.

 
"Never bench your studs" was better advice 15 years ago when fantasy football production was somewhat less chaotic, and most teams "force-fed" one RB and one WR in their offenses. As we all know, the trend has turned towards spreading the offensive wealth among several offensive cogs -- RBBCs, the golden age of WR2s, etc.

 
While generally an okay notion, there are a good number of problems with that old saw.

First, what is a stud?

Second, what if you've got three, and need to start two?

Third, what about a bum wheel?

I'm benching Tomlinson this week, regardless of whether he plays.

(I am very hopeful San Diego benches him, as well.)

 
"Never bench your studs" was better advice 15 years ago when fantasy football production was somewhat less chaotic, and most teams "force-fed" one RB and one WR in their offenses. As we all know, the trend has turned towards spreading the offensive wealth among several offensive cogs -- RBBCs, the golden age of WR2s, etc.
Well put.
 
While generally an okay notion, there are a good number of problems with that old saw.First, what is a stud?Second, what if you've got three, and need to start two?Third, what about a bum wheel?I'm benching Tomlinson this week, regardless of whether he plays. (I am very hopeful San Diego benches him, as well.)
I'm also benching LT this week whether or not he plays. I'm just put off by all these games where he seemingly is somewhat hurt, but makes little effort to play through it. Chris Johnson getting the go for me.
 
Most of the time I agree with this, but you need to make adjustments sometimes. Great Example: Most any Bengals right now.
:yes: Yup.Drafted Ocho Stinko pretty high (before the shoulder injury) & starting last week, he's been replaced in my lineup by Chambers. It'll stay that way until I see something from him & the Cincy O.Holt is very close as well. That 45 yard wresteling match endzone TD bought him one more week, but he's on the bench bubble. No denying his talent, but jeez is that St Louis offense, offensive or what? :X
 
I'm planning on sitting Edwards at Ravens this week for Santana Moss vs Cardinals. Hard to believe I'm benching a 2nd round WR for an 8-9th round WR, but why continue to start struggling studs? :yes: Anyone else benching your early round studs for mid or late round guys this week?
Hard to tell who is a stud in week 3. Is Eddie Royal a stud? How about Torry Holt? Or Joseph Addai? How about Ladanian? To early to tell who your studs are right now. Start whoever you think will have the best game.
 
Edgerrin James has been on my roster for 6 years. He has rarely sat on my bench (unless injured or not playing due to Indy sitting starters at the end of the year.) He has been one of my 5 keepers for just as long. He has also been just as reliable. Pretty much a stud in my eyes. This year I selected Chris Johnson in round 1 (our round 6) and he is now supplanting James on my starting roster. I have to admit that I'll probably not play James that much this year and he is probably on the way out the door at the end of the year. Not much trade value for him anymore either. I've run the tank empty as it applies to James.

Another interesting development for me is the possibility I might be benching Larry Johnson for Tim Hightower this weekend (and possibly further.) I can't leave Chris Johnson on my bench. LJ has been stinking up the joint and while I do not think it is all his fault (o-line, coaching, etc.) his "running of the mouth" disease is not going to help him in his quest for more carries or touches in KC. I have been struggling with this all week. Some might say, why not start Edge over LJ. Well, the problem with that is that Edge hasn't been getting the goal line looks like I thought he would.......Hightower is getting those looks and he is looking pretty good too.

Oh well, decisions, decisions........what are you going to do? Those are my thoughts.

 
In a 12 team Dynasty IDP league I benched SJax last week in favor of Frank Gore (also started A.Peterson and M.Barber)

also benched Ocho-Stinko for Brandon Marshall (also started T.Holt and Fitz)

This week SJax sits again unless Gore or MB3 are doubtfull...

Ocho-Stinko and T.Holt will sit while starting Fitz, Marshall and Jennings.

 
In a 12 team Dynasty IDP league I benched SJax last week in favor of Frank Gore (also started A.Peterson and M.Barber)also benched Ocho-Stinko for Brandon Marshall (also started T.Holt and Fitz)This week SJax sits again unless Gore or MB3 are doubtfull...Ocho-Stinko and T.Holt will sit while starting Fitz, Marshall and Jennings.
Good job stockpiling those top 10 players...... :thumbdown:
 
While generally an okay notion, there are a good number of problems with that old saw.First, what is a stud?Second, what if you've got three, and need to start two?Third, what about a bum wheel?I'm benching Tomlinson this week, regardless of whether he plays. (I am very hopeful San Diego benches him, as well.)
Very :thumbdown:
 
Hard to believe I'm benching a 2nd round WR for an 8-9th round WR, but why continue to start struggling studs? :confused:
Logically, where you drafted a player doesn't mean squat once your draft is over - you have a roster of players to choose from every week & want to play the guys you think will score the most points. In reality, though, that's easier said than done as none of us want to admit that we're not getting the most bang for our buck out of our drafts.
 
Anyone labelled a 'stud' right now is being done so based on 2007 performance. Early on, you have to try to figure out who the new studs are. In about three weeks, we'll have had a big enough sample to determine that.

To be automatically starting Torri Holt, Braylon Edwards-type players is probably losing a lot of owners games right now.

 
I'm starting Rodgers over Palmer the rest of the year.

In one league I'm playing matchups for starting 2 of Lynch, Turner, Chris Johnson. In another league I'm giving LJ one more chance this week due to matchup, if he does poorly then he's riding pine for pierre thomas or chris perry.

 
Thinking real hard about benching Randy Moss for Greg Jennings. I acquired Jennings last year and he's been money almost every week I've had him. I know Moss will have better days than last week with Cassell, but I'm afraid there's going to be too many down weeks.

 
I'm considering benching Santonio Holmes this week for A. Gonzales. I'm only reluctant because Dallas Clark is supposed to be back and will likely cut into Gonzo's production.

This is at the WR3 position, also staring Fitz and Calvin.

 
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In a 12 team Dynasty IDP league I benched SJax last week in favor of Frank Gore (also started A.Peterson and M.Barber)also benched Ocho-Stinko for Brandon Marshall (also started T.Holt and Fitz)This week SJax sits again unless Gore or MB3 are doubtfull...Ocho-Stinko and T.Holt will sit while starting Fitz, Marshall and Jennings.
Good job stockpiling those top 10 players...... :(
No doubt. I would say he is not benching studs, since he is replacing them with other studs. Kinda not the same thing.
 
I'm benching Brees this week for Warner. I'm not doing it because I'm unhappy with Brees but with Colston out and Warner tearing it up pretty much since last year I will play the hot hand.

 
I'm going to continue to start Chris Johnson over Thomas Jones at number two. I'm nervous about Steven Jackson as my number one though and I'm hoping for some 100 yard single TD games here pretty soon.

 
I'm going to continue to start Chris Johnson over Thomas Jones at number two. I'm nervous about Steven Jackson as my number one though and I'm hoping for some 100 yard single TD games here pretty soon.
Both Johnson and Jones should have big days. FWIW.My opinion was solidified on this topic last week.I decided to try to capture lightning in a bottle last week by playing Chris Johnson and Michael Turner and benched MBIII against a tough Eagles defense, with bruised ribs, and a rookie RB waiting to steal his job.I lost by 4 points. Had I played Barber, I would be league leader in points and undefeated.Instead I'm dead smack in the middle of the pack.Always....play your studs.
 
I benched Braylon Edwards last week in my big money PPR league. I started Muhammad instead. If I had started Braylon I would have lost.

 
I'm going to continue to start Chris Johnson over Thomas Jones at number two. I'm nervous about Steven Jackson as my number one though and I'm hoping for some 100 yard single TD games here pretty soon.
Both Johnson and Jones should have big days. FWIW.My opinion was solidified on this topic last week.I decided to try to capture lightning in a bottle last week by playing Chris Johnson and Michael Turner and benched MBIII against a tough Eagles defense, with bruised ribs, and a rookie RB waiting to steal his job.I lost by 4 points. Had I played Barber, I would be league leader in points and undefeated.Instead I'm dead smack in the middle of the pack.Always....play your studs.
You said Johnson and Jones. Do you mean Johnson and Jackson? Jackson is the stud I am afraid to bench and afraid he will end up being like Willie Parker from last year minus the yardage. :no:
 
Often times I play a team like the Falcons DEF at home vs. the Chiefs over say....the Vikes at home vs. Carolina.

 
I'm going to continue to start Chris Johnson over Thomas Jones at number two. I'm nervous about Steven Jackson as my number one though and I'm hoping for some 100 yard single TD games here pretty soon.
Both Johnson and Jones should have big days. FWIW.My opinion was solidified on this topic last week.I decided to try to capture lightning in a bottle last week by playing Chris Johnson and Michael Turner and benched MBIII against a tough Eagles defense, with bruised ribs, and a rookie RB waiting to steal his job.I lost by 4 points. Had I played Barber, I would be league leader in points and undefeated.Instead I'm dead smack in the middle of the pack.Always....play your studs.
You said Johnson and Jones. Do you mean Johnson and Jackson? Jackson is the stud I am afraid to bench and afraid he will end up being like Willie Parker from last year minus the yardage. :nerd:
No, I meant Johnson and T. Jones.But the issue with this is you KNOW the day you bench your big player, is the day he'll go off and you'll end up kicking yourself for not doing it.I don't think you can go wrong with your 3 RB's. I'd feel pretty good about starting any of them.
 
I haven't played my 2nd round pick ( j lewis) yet. Both weeks it was the right decison (lynch/jacobs) so not a huge step down on the ladder, but matchups are important, but cn be overrated. (see ADP vs SD last year)

 
I haven't played my 2nd round pick ( j lewis) yet. Both weeks it was the right decison (lynch/jacobs) so not a huge step down on the ladder, but matchups are important, but cn be overrated. (see ADP vs SD last year)
I also have Jamal sitting on my bench with SJax! Thankfully, Portis is doing OK, and CJohnson has stepped up. I also was fortunate enough to grab Calvin Johnson, Andre Johnson, and Cutler.
 
I haven't played my 2nd round pick ( j lewis) yet. Both weeks it was the right decison (lynch/jacobs) so not a huge step down on the ladder, but matchups are important, but cn be overrated. (see ADP vs SD last year)
Yep - depends why you are benching them. I have seen too many owners overthink matchups and bench a stud. It's OK to bench a stud if they haven't done anything for a couple of weeks - ie Cin. players. However, I have seen too many people bench somebody like ADP just b/c they have a tough matchup, and that is how you end up overthinking and losing games. If they are hot and producing points, keep them in as they will usually find a way to score points.
 
"Never Bench Your Studs" Does anyone really live by this?

I did to a degree last year and it cost me the championship. I benched Kevin Cutis in favor of Plaxico. The wind howled and Plax had 1 catch for something like 17 yeards. Curtis had a decent enough game with a TD. I lost by 10 pts. I won't make the same mistake again.

 
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forbidden doughnut said:
"Never Bench Your Studs" Does anyone really live by this?

I did to a degree last year and it cost me the championship. I benched Kevin Cutis in favor of Plaxico. The wind howled and Plax had 1 catch for something like 17 yeards. Curtis had a decent enough game with a TD. I lost by 10 pts. I won't make the same mistake again.
No you have it backwards, benching your studs means you would have benched Plax and started Curtis. You started your stud and lost.You can't seriously be saying that Curtis is a stud? Outside of 2 fluke games last year what has he done? He is a great fill-in for good matchups, he is the guy you start over your stud if the matchup is right.

 
forbidden doughnut said:
"Never Bench Your Studs" Does anyone really live by this?

I did to a degree last year and it cost me the championship. I benched Kevin Cutis in favor of Plaxico. The wind howled and Plax had 1 catch for something like 17 yeards. Curtis had a decent enough game with a TD. I lost by 10 pts. I won't make the same mistake again.
No you have it backwards, benching your studs means you would have benched Plax and started Curtis. You started your stud and lost.You can't seriously be saying that Curtis is a stud? Outside of 2 fluke games last year what has he done? He is a great fill-in for good matchups, he is the guy you start over your stud if the matchup is right.
You're right I mistyped my post. I didn't bench Plax and it cost me the championship. I should have started Curtis. Thanks for helping me clarify this.
 
It depends.

Injury concern? I'd probably bench a stud. See LT2 and AD this week.

Weather concern? I'd consider benching a stud. See Roethlisberger last week.

Surrounding cast a concern? As has been said repeatedly in this thread, all Bengals are riding the pine until further notice.

Tough opponent? Never.

 

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