Never bench your studs (1 Viewer)

[Utter Chaos]

I dont care if Drew Brees is playing the 1970's Steel Curtain defense at home. Im starting him in the Dome

I'm benching Brees for the first time this year for Luck

Good LUCK! I benched Brees once this year. In Week 10 against Atlanta (19th vs pass).21-32, 298 yards, 3 TD, 1 INT, 20.9 fantasy points.Instead I started Philip Rivers against Tampa (32nd vs pass).29-37, 337 yards, 3 TD, 2 INT, 23.5 fantasy points.Luckily it worked out for me then. I was considering doing it again this week with Brees going against San Fran (2nd vs pass) and Rivers going against Baltimore (23rd vs the pass). Now that Ed Reed is going to be playing I'm not so sure. I'll probably go back and forth many times before Sunday.

 

[CurlyDumps]

I did not bench a stud on Sunday and lost because of it. (Started Fitzgerald over Alexander and Shorts).

In what multiverse is Fitzgerald still a stud?

According to the scam artists who run this site, he was a top 12 overall pick.

 

[mr roboto]

I did not bench a stud on Sunday and lost because of it. (Started Fitzgerald over Alexander and Shorts).

In what multiverse is Fitzgerald still a stud?

According to the scam artists who run this site, he was a top 12 overall pick.

 

[chickensoup]

I did not bench a stud on Sunday and lost because of it. (Started Fitzgerald over Alexander and Shorts).

In what multiverse is Fitzgerald still a stud?

According to the scam artists who run this site, he was a top 12 overall pick.

Draft position stops mattering after week 1. Every site has bad calls on rankings, doesn't make them scam artists. Boone could realistically predict that one of the most complete WR in football would Bested by the likes of James Jones this year.

 

[clwn_posse]

Never bench your studs is a good rule. The problem is that people do not really know how to accurately define a "stud."So it's not the rule that's the problem .

I agree with this. Seems like there are less "studs" every year.Guys I would never sit this year: Rodgers, Brees, Brady, PManning, Foster, AD, Rice, Lynch, Spiller, AJ Green, Calvin, Roddy White

 

[SSOG]

I did not bench a stud on Sunday and lost because of it. (Started Fitzgerald over Alexander and Shorts).

In what multiverse is Fitzgerald still a stud?

According to the scam artists who run this site, he was a top 12 overall pick.

Draft position stops mattering after week 1. Every site has bad calls on rankings, doesn't make them scam artists. Boone could realistically predict that one of the most complete WR in football would Bested by the likes of James Jones this year.

Man, I don't know who Boone is, but maybe I should start using his rankings.

 

[SSOG]

Never bench your studs is a good rule. The problem is that people do not really know how to accurately define a "stud."So it's not the rule that's the problem .

I agree with this. Seems like there are less "studs" every year.Guys I would never sit this year: Rodgers, Brees, Brady, PManning, Foster, AD, Rice, Lynch, Spiller, AJ Green, Calvin, Roddy White

I'd add Griffin, Doug Martin, Marshall, Harvin, VJax, Demaryius, Gronk, Graham, Gonzo, Daniels, and the Chicago D to the list of players who will never, under any circumstances, be a healthy scratch on my roster. That's 5 QBs, 6 RBs, 7 WRs, 4 TEs, and 1 D/ST.

 

[ImTheScientist]

The whole bench your studs thing is alot like poker.A higher percetnage of the time you do the correct play and you will win. The luck percentage factor is a constant over time. Never bench your studs

 

[Zigg]

I don't know about never bench your studs, but benching Brees at home is silly.

 

[mr roboto]

Never bench your studs is a good rule. The problem is that people do not really know how to accurately define a "stud."So it's not the rule that's the problem .

I agree with this. Seems like there are less "studs" every year.Guys I would never sit this year: Rodgers, Brees, Brady, PManning, Foster, AD, Rice, Lynch, Spiller, AJ Green, Calvin, Roddy White

I'd add Griffin, Doug Martin, Marshall, Harvin, VJax, Demaryius, Gronk, Graham, Gonzo, Daniels, and the Chicago D to the list of players who will never, under any circumstances, be a healthy scratch on my roster. That's 5 QBs, 6 RBs, 7 WRs, 4 TEs, and 1 D/ST.

How do you define those players who are on a tear but weren't 'studs' at the beginning of the year?Martin, Cobb etc.

 

[SSOG]

Never bench your studs is a good rule. The problem is that people do not really know how to accurately define a "stud."So it's not the rule that's the problem .

I agree with this. Seems like there are less "studs" every year.Guys I would never sit this year: Rodgers, Brees, Brady, PManning, Foster, AD, Rice, Lynch, Spiller, AJ Green, Calvin, Roddy White

I'd add Griffin, Doug Martin, Marshall, Harvin, VJax, Demaryius, Gronk, Graham, Gonzo, Daniels, and the Chicago D to the list of players who will never, under any circumstances, be a healthy scratch on my roster. That's 5 QBs, 6 RBs, 7 WRs, 4 TEs, and 1 D/ST.

How do you define those players who are on a tear but weren't 'studs' at the beginning of the year?Martin, Cobb etc.

I don't care about the beginning of the year. I care about today. Martin leads the league in YFS, is a threat as a runner and a receiver, and has topped 100 yards in 7 out of 10 games. He's unbenchable. Cobb is different. He's top 10, but it's not impossible for me to imagine a confluence of circumstances under which I would bench him.

 

[hines]

Never bench your studs is a good rule. The problem is that people do not really know how to accurately define a "stud."So it's not the rule that's the problem .

I agree with this. Seems like there are less "studs" every year.Guys I would never sit this year: Rodgers, Brees, Brady, PManning, Foster, AD, Rice, Lynch, Spiller, AJ Green, Calvin, Roddy White

I'd add Griffin, Doug Martin, Marshall, Harvin, VJax, Demaryius, Gronk, Graham, Gonzo, Daniels, and the Chicago D to the list of players who will never, under any circumstances, be a healthy scratch on my roster. That's 5 QBs, 6 RBs, 7 WRs, 4 TEs, and 1 D/ST.

Owen Daniels? I'd be hard-pressed to add him to the never bench list over Trent Richardson, LeSean McCoy, Reggie Wayne, Victor Cruz, Welker (PPR), and Jamaal Charles. I might buy Witten at TE in a PPR league but not Daniels

 

[SSOG]

Never bench your studs is a good rule. The problem is that people do not really know how to accurately define a "stud."So it's not the rule that's the problem .

I agree with this. Seems like there are less "studs" every year.Guys I would never sit this year: Rodgers, Brees, Brady, PManning, Foster, AD, Rice, Lynch, Spiller, AJ Green, Calvin, Roddy White

I'd add Griffin, Doug Martin, Marshall, Harvin, VJax, Demaryius, Gronk, Graham, Gonzo, Daniels, and the Chicago D to the list of players who will never, under any circumstances, be a healthy scratch on my roster. That's 5 QBs, 6 RBs, 7 WRs, 4 TEs, and 1 D/ST.

Owen Daniels? I'd be hard-pressed to add him to the never bench list over Trent Richardson, LeSean McCoy, Reggie Wayne, Victor Cruz, Welker (PPR), and Jamaal Charles. I might buy Witten at TE in a PPR league but not Daniels

It's not about the talent of Daniels, it's about the position he plays. He averages a full point per game more than the #5 TE, and two ppg more than the #8 TE. He's topped 45 yards in 8 of 9 games, and the week he fell short, he still put up a TD. TE production is also the most matchup proof. Unless I have Gronk, Graham, and Gonzo, there is zero chance I ever sit Daniels.

 

[mr roboto]

Never bench your studs is a good rule. The problem is that people do not really know how to accurately define a "stud."So it's not the rule that's the problem .

I agree with this. Seems like there are less "studs" every year.Guys I would never sit this year: Rodgers, Brees, Brady, PManning, Foster, AD, Rice, Lynch, Spiller, AJ Green, Calvin, Roddy White

I'd add Griffin, Doug Martin, Marshall, Harvin, VJax, Demaryius, Gronk, Graham, Gonzo, Daniels, and the Chicago D to the list of players who will never, under any circumstances, be a healthy scratch on my roster. That's 5 QBs, 6 RBs, 7 WRs, 4 TEs, and 1 D/ST.

Owen Daniels? I'd be hard-pressed to add him to the never bench list over Trent Richardson, LeSean McCoy, Reggie Wayne, Victor Cruz, Welker (PPR), and Jamaal Charles. I might buy Witten at TE in a PPR league but not Daniels

It's not about the talent of Daniels, it's about the position he plays. He averages a full point per game more than the #5 TE, and two ppg more than the #8 TE. He's topped 45 yards in 8 of 9 games, and the week he fell short, he still put up a TD. TE production is also the most matchup proof. Unless I have Gronk, Graham, and Gonzo, there is zero chance I ever sit Daniels.

Hernandez at full strength?

 

[glumpy]

One of these years we will get through a season without this thread.Maybe?

No worries! I've got to take an annual renewal class for my fire system M-1 license too.

 

[SSOG]

Hernandez at full strength?

In theory, but the problem is we can't really tell he's at full strength until after he's already been performing. By the time Hernandez demonstrates enough for me to consider him a must-start, the season will be on the books.

 

[Tornacl]

Never bench your studs is usually a very good philosophy. The problem many owners have is not that they stick to this mentality, it is that they mis-identify who their studs are. In one of the earlier posts (sorry, too lazy to quote it), someone put they lost because they didn't bench their stud (Fitzgerald) for one of their subs (Shorts or Alexander).

Sorry, but the problem isn't that you stuck to the NBYS, it is that you think Fitz is a stud THIS year when he clearly isn't. Don't get me wrong, Fitz is one of my favorite players, and is one of the best WRs over his career BUT this year the horrible QB play, terrible line, and lack of a running game have finally caught up to him. This year he is a WR2 at best, and by definition, if there is a '2' they aren't a stud. In year's past, Fitz has always been a stud, but he's not this year. (As a dynasty owner of Fitz, I'm hoping he returns to being a stud next year.)

(I'm a Fitz owner and he has been very difficult this year, especially if you don't have a consistent alternative.)

 

[ark]

Never bench your studs is usually a very good philosophy. The problem many owners have is not that they stick to this mentality, it is that they mis-identify who their studs are. In one of the earlier posts (sorry, too lazy to quote it), someone put they lost because they didn't bench their stud (Fitzgerald) for one of their subs (Shorts or Alexander). Sorry, but the problem isn't that you stuck to the NBYS, it is that you think Fitz is a stud THIS year when he clearly isn't. Don't get me wrong, Fitz is one of my favorite players, and is one of the best WRs over his career BUT this year the horrible QB play, terrible line, and lack of a running game have finally caught up to him. This year he is a WR2 at best, and by definition, if there is a '2' they aren't a stud. In year's past, Fitz has always been a stud, but he's not this year. (As a dynasty owner of Fitz, I'm hoping he returns to being a stud next year.)(I'm a Fitz owner and he has been very difficult this year, especially if you don't have a consistent alternative.)

Agree, you need to start guys like Cobb and Danario over Fitz. Fitz will hopefully return to STUD status when ARI has a decent QB!Julio Jones has not been a STUD after his injury, so he has been on the bench more recently in another league. So identifying STUDS is half the battle.

 

[need2know]

I dont care if Drew Brees is playing the 1970's Steel Curtain defense at home. Im starting him in the Dome

I'm benching Brees for the first time this year for Luck

Good LUCK! I benched Brees once this year. In Week 10 against Atlanta (19th vs pass).21-32, 298 yards, 3 TD, 1 INT, 20.9 fantasy points.Instead I started Philip Rivers against Tampa (32nd vs pass).29-37, 337 yards, 3 TD, 2 INT, 23.5 fantasy points.Luckily it worked out for me then. I was considering doing it again this week with Brees going against San Fran (2nd vs pass) and Rivers going against Baltimore (23rd vs the pass). Now that Ed Reed is going to be playing I'm not so sure. I'll probably go back and forth many times before Sunday.

only way i bench brees is if he broke his ankle right before the game. def would never sit him for that sob rivers

 

[Sienna2012]

If you drafted Larry Fitz as your stud WR1, ignoring the qb situation then thats the first problem. You compounded the problem by continuing to ignore the multiple problems AZ has as the season progressed.

Get over the name and forget adp. Studs produce, regardless of the name or if you drafted them early or late or if you picked them up off of waivers. Ie.... Cobb, Shorts, Alexander.

 

[packseasontix]

I did not bench a stud on Sunday and lost because of it. (Started Fitzgerald over Alexander and Shorts).

Sorry we are talking about STUDS, not wannabes.....Fitz:2012 - 30th2011- 5th2010 - 16th2009 - 5th2008 - 1st2007 - 5th2006 - 24th2005 - 2nd2004 - 30thAs you can see since his 2007-2009 he never has moved back int the STUD phase (even though in 2011 he was 5th in points)The leagues I had Fitz in I traded at the start of the season because he is not a stud anymore. Good player yes.... Good fantasy player yes... Stud fantasy player no

 

[chickensoup]

I did not bench a stud on Sunday and lost because of it. (Started Fitzgerald over Alexander and Shorts).

In what multiverse is Fitzgerald still a stud?

According to the scam artists who run this site, he was a top 12 overall pick.

Draft position stops mattering after week 1. Every site has bad calls on rankings, doesn't make them scam artists. Boone could realistically predict that one of the most complete WR in football would Bested by the likes of James Jones this year.

Man, I don't know who Boone is, but maybe I should start using his rankings.

Stupid phone......obviously it was No one My point though is that Studs can come from any round in your draft or even waivers (Cruz, in some leagues Newton last year). It has nothing to do with ADP as situations change very quickly in the NFL, especially for WR on teams with bad QB situations.