wilked
Footballguy
Let's try and keep the polls a little more PG, shall we?http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...opic=140479&hl=
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NorvilleBarnes
Footballguy
Yes.
diesel7982
Footballguy
Shhh, we don't want to piss of Bojang any further. He might get the board shut down.
diesel7982
Footballguy
Liberals? Liberals like the PTC? Or Liberals like the GOP?
Courtjester
The Town Drunk
What a joke!!You can find twice the suggestive content on many of the FFA posts or if that is the issue that it is posted in the Pool then move it to the FFAIt is a moderated board, but ban everything vaguely suggestive then and not just the posts that get reported.
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Da Good Da Bad an Da Ugly
Footballguy
Bojang, I respectfully submit that if your initial concern was that kids might see this and somehow be jaded by the content that you have no clue what teenagers talk about. If you did you would spend less time complaining about victimless humor and more time paying attention to your children and what they’re doing. Any given conversation they have amongst themselves is far more offensive to prurient interests than any one of Bang’s cartoons.…….Long live Bang !!!!!!* Self Censored*
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Rovers
Footballguy
I would like to lodge an official complaint about the content of Bojang0301's sig line. I find it even more offensive than he is. Or is that, I find him even more offensive than his sig line? No matter. The sexual inendo in his sig line is offensive. Please consider this a formal complaint. Thank you.
Da Good Da Bad an Da Ugly
Footballguy
Indeed Rover. His references to drunkeness, murder, and homo erotic behavior are most offensive to teenagers and those of impressionable mind. "Cunning Linguist's" screen name is also offensive to members of the bible belt and other orthodox religious sects. How ironic that these two championed Bang's demise while covorting and reveling in improper verbiage according to their own standards....
Guppy King Tygeb
Footballguy
alrighty then-
tdoss
Footballguy
You guys really are clueless, eh? I read his post to mean, "He couldn't care less about the content on the board/site/forums...but that there should be some semblance of symmetry." Basically, why should the boards be moderated so harshly...when the cartoon that is supported on the front page flies in the face of the rules set forth on the forums. When something is deleted/modified or someone is timed out/banned...a lot of times the excuse of "kids/teens/children also surf this board" was thrown about when the axe came down...I think bojang was wondering why would the boards be subject to such prurient screening...but the front page not? And to boot...a cartoon...what would appeal to kids more?Then the reason of "the boards are separate from the site" was used to explain why the boards are moderated so sternly.
But cocoa then trumped that with her post about half naked women being constantly promoted on the forums.
It's two trains of thought on bojangs motivations:
1. Have bang cartoons pulled and have us moderated even more harshly
or
2. Question why were so heavily moderated on the boards when bang cartoons are sitting on the front page and are in violation of the board rules
I believe it was his intent to hopefully loosen the noose around the boards...not constrict us even more. But if you disagree...carry on bashing him...Lord knows that's "being excellent to one another"...
Mungo Burrows
Footballguy
I know it's their ball, and they can walk home with it if they want to, but I would really like to see an explanation of the thought process behind this decision, particularly in light of Joe's initial response.
Sweet J
Footballguy
Joe, and Co.,
Sorry that you felt the need to take down the cartoons. Complaining about these cartoons has got to be some of the most toolish behavior these boards get. Rather than stop the cartoons, you could have dismissed the complainers.
In English, slowly, so the even idiots can follow: Joe probably feels the need to be extra watchful regarding profanity on the boards, because, people being who they are, things would spiral out of control quickly. I have been on boards where cuss words were in every sentence, and it is just tiring to slog through filth. If Joe allowed the occassional bad word, depending on the situation, than we'd have tool's complaining about inconsistancy, such as right here. The cartoons, however, are known entitities. Joe need not worry about them "getting out of hand," he can just decline to show a particular cartoon.
Anyway, sorry to see this happen, Joe.
Sorry that you felt the need to take down the cartoons. Complaining about these cartoons has got to be some of the most toolish behavior these boards get. Rather than stop the cartoons, you could have dismissed the complainers.
In English, slowly, so the even idiots can follow: Joe probably feels the need to be extra watchful regarding profanity on the boards, because, people being who they are, things would spiral out of control quickly. I have been on boards where cuss words were in every sentence, and it is just tiring to slog through filth. If Joe allowed the occassional bad word, depending on the situation, than we'd have tool's complaining about inconsistancy, such as right here. The cartoons, however, are known entitities. Joe need not worry about them "getting out of hand," he can just decline to show a particular cartoon.
Anyway, sorry to see this happen, Joe.
ConstruxBoy
Kate's Daddy
Maybe we can start a Ban Bojang thread? Or better yet a Threat? He's so useless he's the only poster I have on Ignore. 
SuperJohn96
RPS World Champion
Exactly...it would be like if an athlete felt he was getting picked on by the officials and then started pointing out all the fouls his own teammates were causing because he didn't feel they were mad enough at the refs too...And thumb down to bringing up the best hooters thread cg... boooo...
It's the last bastion of freedom left on these boards...
Bangahaha
Footballguy
This has happened. I made a cartoon about Onterrio Smith that was deemed too over the top for the board. Frankly, I don't blame them, it was a bit close to the top, but with that subject, it was hard to NOT do something disgusting.While I sincerely appreciate the support, I say that this is Joe's board, and we must play by his rules, I have no problem with that at all. Am I happy with the way things have turned out? ..not exactly, but I understand and respect their decision. It's all a matter of continuity. To be fair to all means that occasionaly it appears unfair to some. I don't feel as if I've been treated unfairly. The staff has been very gracious in handling this, and have been vert forthright about everything.
This site has an image and a purpose it's trying to put forth, and the reason they paid me to host the cartoons is to help promote their site. If my cartoon goes against the grain of what they're trying to do, then I am not providing what they have paid for. And it's not up to me or anyone else to decide for them what their goals are and what kind of image they want to project.
I'll be around, and I'll continue to post links in the message board to new cartoons as long as they'll allow me. In fact, Since all this has happened, I'll post a new thread with a link to the Onterrio cartoon. (I didn't do it before, because that would be competing against my client. But since that isn't the case anymore.. look for it on the main board.)
There's a possibility I may be brought on to do a custom cartoon specific to footballguys.com. I'm excited about that, and the staff is as well. If that sounds good to you, let them know, and I'm sure together we'll come up with something everyone can enjoy.
~Bang
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
There is a double standard.Film at eleven.
You see far more suggestive content on prime time TV. Give me a break.
Marko
Footballguy
:( What a shame. Wow. Two posts in the negative and Bang! -- they're all pulled. I haven't seen such arbitrary actions since my grade 4 field trip was cancelled because one guy belched the alphabet in class...All this does is distract people from the real crime -- no FBG magazine shipments to Canada! 
What a shame. Wow. Two posts in the negative and Bang! -- they're all pulled. I haven't seen such arbitrary actions since my grade 4 field trip was cancelled because one guy belched the alphabet in class...All this does is distract people from the real crime -- no FBG magazine shipments to Canada! 
Good call. A shame how a select few in the minority get to dictate what is to be deemed proper. It is the FBG's boards, my question is was it offensive to them? If not the others can gently remove the board link from their favorites. I come here for entertainment purposes not to be preached morality or what they perceive morality to be.
Dallas Cowboys rule.
Da Good Da Bad an Da Ugly
Footballguy
No sir, I am not clueless nor do I need to buy a vowel. Because you and I chose to interpret Bojang's postings and motives differently does not make either one of us correct. I choose not interpret his postings as a noble crusade against censorship and oppression, but rather I subscribe to the "Sour Grapes/Whiny Tool” theory. Either way, without knowing the individual or interviewing him it would be frivolous for me to presume to know his intent.To suggest that there are only two possible motives for his actions is limited and flawed logic IMHO. The only point I do concur with is that continuing to bash Bojang would not only be pointless and a waste of energy, it would also violate the code of "being excellent to one another".
Couch Potato
Footballguy
I am offended by this. I demand this be removed.Dallas Cowboys rule.
Sweet J
Footballguy
In fairness to Joe and Co., they probably got a slew of PMs. They insinuated as much in the other thread.:(
All this does is distract people from the real crime -- no FBG magazine shipments to Canada!
Bojang0301
Omar4Heisman
I wish I didn't work so much so I could have seen this develop. First off I do not produce a cartoon. My buddy sent that but got a good laugh for someone thinking that. You people don't like my sig turn them off you have the option just like you suggesting I have the option not to watch. I like Bang Cartoons and always get a pretty decent laugh from them. I am allowed to question a staff that says members on this board have to follow their guidlines and then have questionable content on their site (however small the qustionable material is). That's pretty much it because a lot of my words always seem to be twisted or interpreted a different way then I intend.... 
Edit to add: I did not want Bang removed from the site on my questioning. I'm sure I'll be made into a hypocrit if I try to defend that stance so whatever.Oh and also my sig was removed by the staff so goes to show that your complains do matter to them. I suppose this is being excellent to one another though. I did not insult anyone and have continued not to on this thread but the removal of Bang and any actions being held against others because of one person is sad, disgraceful moves by the staff.
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Mungo Burrows
Footballguy
So basically this is all because you got pissy because you were slapped on the wrist for violating the published board rules that you agreed to abide by when you joined? As to your comment that "you can't have it both ways"...yes you can. Or more specifically Joe and David can. They can set whatever rule they want for these boards and they don't have to follow a single one of them - on the boards or the main site. They can let some people break the rules and go unpunished while others are dealt with under a zero-tolerance policy. It's their prerogative as owners of this site. Is that a double standard...yeah, probably. Does that make it wrong? No. It's good to be the King. So be it.
Actually I didn't think you were "allowed to" do that. Haven't the Mods made it clear numerous times that we aren't supposed to question their administrative decisions publicly on the forums?Although, you're doing it again...
But honestly it doesn't take more than a drop of foresight to realize that would be a likely outcome.
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Dreamer
Footballguy
And now your sig makes absolutely no sense."Kind of sad when the actions of one can make an impact on others. That is how the world works though. "
Edit to add: I did not want Bang removed from the site on my questioning. I'm sure I'll be made into a hypocrit if I try to defend that stance so whatever.
Oh and also my sig was removed by the staff so goes to show that your complains do matter to them. I suppose this is being excellent to one another though. I did not insult anyone and have continued not to on this thread but the removal of Bang and any actions being held against others because of one person is sad, disgraceful moves by the staff.
Sad?
CGRdrJoe
Footballguy
Just when I thought the posters here couldn't get any more pathetic, the shark tank comes through again. It's bad enough to have to read through the sheep's postings to find some real verbage, but now this? Thankfully I can add more posters to the ignore feature and get through the garbage quicker.
and was done to prove a point to the whiner, which I am sure was just as lost on him as it was on you.
Kleck
Footballguy
I posted this in the FFA, but I don't think it will get a response there.I can't help but ask myself this question: Would I be surprised to see any of the BANG! cartoons posted at ESPN? TSN? Yahoo Sports? How about on network TV? During halftime of an NFL game?Yeah, I think that would be a surprise.
Sweet J
Footballguy
Joe has been pretty clear for a long time that if it can't fly on ESPN, he doesn't want to allow it here. He has also been clear that he's not going to set up "separate" areas for more risque stuff.Dave, you absolutely have a good point. I think people would have reacted differently if Joe posted the cartoon, and then slept on it, and in the morning though, "nah, this one is probably too much." -- a reasonable conclusion.
I think people are reacting less to the comic coming down, and more to the people complaining about the comic. Two very different things.
houndirish
Footballguy
Any chance Bang's next cartoon could feature Bojang?
Mungo Burrows
Footballguy
I can't wait to see the next edition of the Colonblow diaries on ESPN.com Page3
Philly Sports Dude
Hammer Time!
Where is the Sean Taylor cartoon?
Thanks John,I look forward to seeing what we can do on the custom cartoon. Let's talk about that soon - I'll shoot you something to kick around.
J
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