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*** New England Patriot Offseason (2007) *** (1 Viewer)

No. 5 need: RBs (full article)

PATS POSITION: Corey Dillon is scheduled to have a $4.4 million salary cap hit, which is a bit high for a player who was used more situationally by the end of the season. So his presence on the roster isn't a certainty. The team has rookie running back Laurence Maroney and third-down back Kevin Faulk under contract for 2007, with Heath Evans and Patrick Pass scheduled for unrestricted free agency.

Free Agents available:

Mike Alstott (Tampa Bay)

B.J. Askew (New York Jets)

Chris Brown (Tennessee)

Correll Buckhalter (Philadelphia)

Najeh Davenport (Pittsburgh)

Stephen Davis (St. Louis)

Ron Dayne (Houston)

T.J. Duckett (Washington)

Heath Evans (New England)

Ahman Green (Green Bay).

Justin Griffith (Atlanta)

Sammy Morris (Miami)

Ovie Mughelli (Baltimore)

Moran Norris (San Francisco)

Patrick Pass (New England)

Dominic Rhodes (Indianapolis)

Damion Shelton (Buffalo)

Marcel Shipp (Arizona)

Musa Smith (Baltimore)

Anthony Thomas (Buffalo)

Personally I like to see them go for Dominic Rhodes.

 
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nerangers said:
No. 5 need: RBs (full article)

PATS POSITION: Corey Dillon is scheduled to have a $4.4 million salary cap hit, which is a bit high for a player who was used more situationally by the end of the season. So his presence on the roster isn't a certainty. The team has rookie running back Laurence Maroney and third-down back Kevin Faulk under contract for 2007, with Heath Evans and Patrick Pass scheduled for unrestricted free agency.

Free Agents available:

Mike Alstott (Tampa Bay)

B.J. Askew (New York Jets)

Chris Brown (Tennessee)

Correll Buckhalter (Philadelphia)

Najeh Davenport (Pittsburgh)

Stephen Davis (St. Louis)

Ron Dayne (Houston)

T.J. Duckett (Washington)

Heath Evans (New England)

Ahman Green (Green Bay).

Justin Griffith (Atlanta)

Sammy Morris (Miami)

Ovie Mughelli (Baltimore)

Moran Norris (San Francisco)

Patrick Pass (New England)

Dominic Rhodes (Indianapolis)

Damion Shelton (Buffalo)

Marcel Shipp (Arizona)

Musa Smith (Baltimore)

Anthony Thomas (Buffalo)

Personally I like to see them go for Dominic Rhodes.
Rhodes would never come to the Pats. After the playoff run that Rhodes had, he will be looking for a clear cut #1 situation. He just left the Colts sharing time with Joseph Addai. He doesnt want to share time with Lawrence Maroney.
 
Rhodes would never come to the Pats. After the playoff run that Rhodes had, he will be looking for a clear cut #1 situation. He just left the Colts sharing time with Joseph Addai. He doesnt want to share time with Lawrence Maroney.
There's more good RBs in the NFL than I can ever recall.Baltimore and Cleveland are the only teams I can think of that need a back.Pats would have to get Rhodes after jobs fill up, if he doesn't get one of the few RB1 openings.
 
I would like to see the Pats load up on Defense with their first 3 picks. Probably a LB, CB and a Safety. First choice (Patrick Willis, Darrelle Revis and Eric Weddle). Second choice (Lawrence Timmons, Marcus McCaule and Michael Johnson)

I think they need a 3rd down back more than a top guy so if Lorenzo Booker would drop to the 3rd round, I would like to see them take him. They need to get Faulks replacement on the team. They already have Dillon's replacement.

That means they would not be getting a WR in the draft so I would like to see them sign Drew Bennett or Ashley Lelie. They need an additional deep threat until Chad Jackson is ready to take over. Ashley Lelie had some good seasons in Denver and his ego wants the chance at a #1 position. I dont see him getting that anywhere after the season he had in Atlanta but in his eyes, where would he have the best chance to be a #1? I think NE would look good to him.

 
I think they need a 3rd down back more than a top guy so if Lorenzo Booker would drop to the 3rd round, I would like to see them take him. They need to get Faulks replacement on the team. They already have Dillon's replacement.
I'm not sure if they need to.Some rookies can fill the 3rd down RB role OK right away.Leon Washington of the Jets I think could be a sweet 3rd down back. Ummm...there's a few each year.There's always less than spectacular RBs in the FA market too.Faulk's job isn't so hard talent wise for a good receiving back. However, it's a relief pitcher or 6th man type mentality that is hard to find. Faulk turns it on and off "like that". He might not play for 4-5 minutes and then is expected to get a key 7 yards for a first. Not many players can do that time and time again. It's a role too and in today's NFL most players aspire to be stars and don't seem to want to be just a role player. I think it's an important role but I could imagine some backs being grumpy they're not used enough.I'm not saying it'd be easy to find his replacement but I do think it could be done in just one offseason.I'd be worried about a congested backfield if the Pats get Faulk's replacement. I don't want them to go all year without a d linemen because they needed the roster spot for a RB that will rarely ever see the field. If Faulk's on the roster, I just can't see a reason to put his backup in.
 
They need an additional deep threat until Chad Jackson is ready to take over.
I don't think this ever happens.I'd guess he either busts or is a 2 or 3 WR in the NFL.Nothing about him gives me the feeling that greatness is coming from him. He'd have to come into camp ripped and I'd have to read that he's been superactive in the offseason for him to change my opinion. Very down on this kid.
 
I think they need a 3rd down back more than a top guy so if Lorenzo Booker would drop to the 3rd round, I would like to see them take him. They need to get Faulks replacement on the team. They already have Dillon's replacement.
I'm not sure if they need to.Some rookies can fill the 3rd down RB role OK right away.

Leon Washington of the Jets I think could be a sweet 3rd down back. Ummm...there's a few each year.

There's always less than spectacular RBs in the FA market too.

Faulk's job isn't so hard talent wise for a good receiving back. However, it's a relief pitcher or 6th man type mentality that is hard to find. Faulk turns it on and off "like that". He might not play for 4-5 minutes and then is expected to get a key 7 yards for a first. Not many players can do that time and time again. It's a role too and in today's NFL most players aspire to be stars and don't seem to want to be just a role player. I think it's an important role but I could imagine some backs being grumpy they're not used enough.

I'm not saying it'd be easy to find his replacement but I do think it could be done in just one offseason.

I'd be worried about a congested backfield if the Pats get Faulk's replacement. I don't want them to go all year without a d linemen because they needed the roster spot for a RB that will rarely ever see the field. If Faulk's on the roster, I just can't see a reason to put his backup in.
I'm confused. Are you advocating drafting a dlineman?Seymour, Warren, Wilfork, Wright, Green, Hill not good enough for you? The Pats top 5 dlinemen are probably the best in the league and all are young. Hill hasnt developed at this stage but still might be better than anything you could get in the 3rd round.

I guess I just like Booker and think a Maroney/Booker backfield in 2008 and beyond would be dynamic. You are right though, if they did draft Booker, he wouldnt play much in 2007 barring injury.

 
They need an additional deep threat until Chad Jackson is ready to take over.
I don't think this ever happens.I'd guess he either busts or is a 2 or 3 WR in the NFL.Nothing about him gives me the feeling that greatness is coming from him. He'd have to come into camp ripped and I'd have to read that he's been superactive in the offseason for him to change my opinion. Very down on this kid.
I'm not expecting Jackson to be a #1 receiver but I am expecting him to develop into Brady's deep threat in 2007. I think Bennett would be a great match for the Pats offense and Lelie would be great insurance against Jackson being a bust.I actually like Caldwell and Gaffney. However, I think it is quite obvious after this past year that we cant rely on Ben Watson to be Brady's deep threat. That just never materialized. Either Jackson needs to become that deep thread to losen up the D or the Pats need to sign someone. I think Lelie would fit the bill.I am in Philly so I have heard that Stallworth is interested in the Pats. However, I am pretty sure the Pats arent interested in spending big bucks on a WR after the Branch fiasco (although supposedly the Pats were in the running for Javon Walker last draft day).
 
I think they need a 3rd down back more than a top guy so if Lorenzo Booker would drop to the 3rd round, I would like to see them take him. They need to get Faulks replacement on the team. They already have Dillon's replacement.
I'm not sure if they need to.Some rookies can fill the 3rd down RB role OK right away.

Leon Washington of the Jets I think could be a sweet 3rd down back. Ummm...there's a few each year.

There's always less than spectacular RBs in the FA market too.

Faulk's job isn't so hard talent wise for a good receiving back. However, it's a relief pitcher or 6th man type mentality that is hard to find. Faulk turns it on and off "like that". He might not play for 4-5 minutes and then is expected to get a key 7 yards for a first. Not many players can do that time and time again. It's a role too and in today's NFL most players aspire to be stars and don't seem to want to be just a role player. I think it's an important role but I could imagine some backs being grumpy they're not used enough.

I'm not saying it'd be easy to find his replacement but I do think it could be done in just one offseason.

I'd be worried about a congested backfield if the Pats get Faulk's replacement. I don't want them to go all year without a d linemen because they needed the roster spot for a RB that will rarely ever see the field. If Faulk's on the roster, I just can't see a reason to put his backup in.
I'm confused. Are you advocating drafting a dlineman?Seymour, Warren, Wilfork, Wright, Green, Hill not good enough for you? The Pats top 5 dlinemen are probably the best in the league and all are young. Hill hasnt developed at this stage but still might be better than anything you could get in the 3rd round.

I guess I just like Booker and think a Maroney/Booker backfield in 2008 and beyond would be dynamic. You are right though, if they did draft Booker, he wouldnt play much in 2007 barring injury.
no, "final" roster spots often go to "extra" d linemen or o linemen and I'd rather that than a back they won't use
 
Rhodes would never come to the Pats. After the playoff run that Rhodes had, he will be looking for a clear cut #1 situation. He just left the Colts sharing time with Joseph Addai. He doesnt want to share time with Lawrence Maroney.
Rhodes has proved to no onethat he can solely carry the load at the RB position.He is a career RBBC RB, imo.Never had a 100 yd rushing game,and averaged 3.4 yards per carrylast season.He did well in the playoffs buthis overall numbers during the regular seasonwill attract minimal interest for those teamslooking for a solid RB1.
 
Rhodes would never come to the Pats. After the playoff run that Rhodes had, he will be looking for a clear cut #1 situation. He just left the Colts sharing time with Joseph Addai. He doesnt want to share time with Lawrence Maroney.
Rhodes has proved to no onethat he can solely carry the load at the RB position.He is a career RBBC RB, imo.Never had a 100 yd rushing game,and averaged 3.4 yards per carrylast season.He did well in the playoffs buthis overall numbers during the regular seasonwill attract minimal interest for those teamslooking for a solid RB1.
I still think Rhodes would look for a better situation than sharing time with Maroney and Faulk.
 
Rhodes would never come to the Pats. After the playoff run that Rhodes had, he will be looking for a clear cut #1 situation. He just left the Colts sharing time with Joseph Addai. He doesnt want to share time with Lawrence Maroney.
Rhodes has proved to no onethat he can solely carry the load at the RB position.He is a career RBBC RB, imo.Never had a 100 yd rushing game,and averaged 3.4 yards per carrylast season.He did well in the playoffs buthis overall numbers during the regular seasonwill attract minimal interest for those teamslooking for a solid RB1.
I still think Rhodes would look for a better situation than sharing time with Maroney and Faulk.
I agree, but I don't think he will necessarily find one,especially if he is looking for a Gore or Rudi Johnson type situation.He simply can't pound the ball 20+ times per game.
 
Rhodes would never come to the Pats. After the playoff run that Rhodes had, he will be looking for a clear cut #1 situation. He just left the Colts sharing time with Joseph Addai. He doesnt want to share time with Lawrence Maroney.
Rhodes has proved to no onethat he can solely carry the load at the RB position.He is a career RBBC RB, imo.Never had a 100 yd rushing game,and averaged 3.4 yards per carrylast season.He did well in the playoffs buthis overall numbers during the regular seasonwill attract minimal interest for those teamslooking for a solid RB1.
I still think Rhodes would look for a better situation than sharing time with Maroney and Faulk.
Rhodes has been a free agent once or twice already and garnered very little interest across the league. His regular season YPC over the 05 and 06 seasons has been a paltry 3.3. His post season play may stimulate a little more interest, but I would be shocked if any team gave him a shot at a bigger workload.
 
I think they need a 3rd down back more than a top guy so if Lorenzo Booker would drop to the 3rd round, I would like to see them take him. They need to get Faulks replacement on the team. They already have Dillon's replacement.
I'm not sure if they need to.Some rookies can fill the 3rd down RB role OK right away.

Leon Washington of the Jets I think could be a sweet 3rd down back. Ummm...there's a few each year.

There's always less than spectacular RBs in the FA market too.

Faulk's job isn't so hard talent wise for a good receiving back. However, it's a relief pitcher or 6th man type mentality that is hard to find. Faulk turns it on and off "like that". He might not play for 4-5 minutes and then is expected to get a key 7 yards for a first. Not many players can do that time and time again. It's a role too and in today's NFL most players aspire to be stars and don't seem to want to be just a role player. I think it's an important role but I could imagine some backs being grumpy they're not used enough.

I'm not saying it'd be easy to find his replacement but I do think it could be done in just one offseason.

I'd be worried about a congested backfield if the Pats get Faulk's replacement. I don't want them to go all year without a d linemen because they needed the roster spot for a RB that will rarely ever see the field. If Faulk's on the roster, I just can't see a reason to put his backup in.
I'm confused. Are you advocating drafting a dlineman?Seymour, Warren, Wilfork, Wright, Green, Hill not good enough for you? The Pats top 5 dlinemen are probably the best in the league and all are young. Hill hasnt developed at this stage but still might be better than anything you could get in the 3rd round.

I guess I just like Booker and think a Maroney/Booker backfield in 2008 and beyond would be dynamic. You are right though, if they did draft Booker, he wouldnt play much in 2007 barring injury.
no, "final" roster spots often go to "extra" d linemen or o linemen and I'd rather that than a back they won't use
...or DBacks who for some reason are destined to go on IR on an annual basis.
 
Here is article #6 by Mike Reiss on the Patriots needs and the FA market.

No. 6 need: Punter

PATS POSITION: With Josh Miller due a roster bonus in March, there is some question as to whether the Patriots will pay it, and that could open a spot on the roster. Miller went on injured reserve with a shoulder injury Nov. 24. He was replaced by Ken Walter for four games, and then Walter went on injured reserve with a knee injury. The Patriots finished up with Todd Sauerbrun.

A look at some of the players who are scheduled for unrestricted free agency:

Todd Sauerbrun (New England) -- Performed admirably in the playoffs for the Patriots, likely earning himself a job somewhere in 2007. The 34-year-old Sauerbrun punted in five games and displayed the type of strong leg that is important in tough Northeast conditions.

Chad Stanley (Houston) -- Finished 21st in the NFL with a 36.7 net average. Entering his eighth NFL season, the 31-year-old Stanley has punted in all 16 games in all but one season.

Matt Turk (St. Louis) -- Punting more than half of the time in a dome, the 38-year-old Turk finished seventh in the NFL with a 38.5 net. Came off a 2005 season in which he didn't punt in one game.

Ken Walter (New England) -- Like Turk, the 34-year-old Walter didn't punt in 2005 before returning to action in 2006. Walter filled in for the Patriots for four games, and added his expertise as a holder.

After reading many of the FA articles, I think John Clayton was right in his Free Agency Article with regards to the Patriots sitting out of the first wave, where many of the Free Agents get top dollar.

Waiting for a better wave: Watch for the top teams to skip free agency's expensive first wave. The Colts, Patriots, Bengals, Chargers, Eagles, Ravens, Panthers and others probably will sit out the big spending. Their money will go into re-signings. Fans might be antsy if their home teams don't go big into free agency, but spending in free agency doesn't necessary translate into victories. The Colts won a Super Bowl by adding only kicker Adam Vinatieri, who signed for $2.4 million a year. The Chargers added only safety Marlon McCree and backup tight end Aaron Shea, and won 14 games. The Patriots went to the AFC Championship Game and their net gain out of free agency was Reche Caldwell, who made $900,000 last year.
 
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Was trolling over at the Boston.com Message Board...There is a thread over there stating that Tom Brady is going to be a father...Couldn't find an actual link, but it was heard as a snippet of it on WEEI 850 AM. Let's hope this will not be a distraction since it seems he is dating two different women right now. (found the link IT'S BRADY BABY FOR 'SIXY' STAR)

 
PATS POSITION: With Josh Miller due a roster bonus in March, there is some question as to whether the Patriots will pay it, and that could open a spot on the roster. Miller went on injured reserve with a shoulder injury Nov. 24. He was replaced by Ken Walter for four games, and then Walter went on injured reserve with a knee injury. The Patriots finished up with Todd Sauerbrun.

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Todd Sauerbrun (New England) -- Performed admirably in the playoffs for the Patriots, likely earning himself a job somewhere in 2007. The 34-year-old Sauerbrun punted in five games and displayed the type of strong leg that is important in tough Northeast conditions.
I thought Sauerbrun kicked the hell out of the ball in the playoffs. I'd love to see him come back in place of Miller.
 
PATS POSITION: With Josh Miller due a roster bonus in March, there is some question as to whether the Patriots will pay it, and that could open a spot on the roster. Miller went on injured reserve with a shoulder injury Nov. 24. He was replaced by Ken Walter for four games, and then Walter went on injured reserve with a knee injury. The Patriots finished up with Todd Sauerbrun.

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Todd Sauerbrun (New England) -- Performed admirably in the playoffs for the Patriots, likely earning himself a job somewhere in 2007. The 34-year-old Sauerbrun punted in five games and displayed the type of strong leg that is important in tough Northeast conditions.
I thought Sauerbrun kicked the hell out of the ball in the playoffs. I'd love to see him come back in place of Miller.
I don't disagree. After he booted right to some excellent PR(can't recall who) he got "a talking to" and was sharp after that. I think he "gets it" now.What's Miller's bonus though? They've had a nice cushion under the cap. (It's not my money) If it's a 100k bonus and they're gonna be 5 mil under the cap...keep him too. Have a camp competition and/or trade one. Todd was suspended not that long ago right? Keep two for now

 
From Mike Reiss on Boston.com

February 21, 2007Tebucky releasedThe Patriots announced the release of defensive back Tebucky Jones tonight. Jones was signed prior to the 2006 season but suffered a season-ending leg injury in the preseason. His contract was through the 2007 season.
 
Can anyone confirm or deny Belichick's contract status? I can only find articles saying that his contract was extended 2 years ago through the 2006 season. But some places seem to think that he was re-signed through 2007.

IIRC, Belichick was given a 5-year deal initially (00-04) and a 2-year extension (05-06). By my math, he'd be unsigned as of March.

The team has repeatedly said it will not discuss his contract.

If anyone has any info, please post a link. TIA . . .

 
Hey Guys...

Been traveling all week and just checking in to see what is going on with the Pats.

My friend in Boston said that WR Chad Jackson is out with a torn ACL...couldn't find a link, but he is pretty reliable for information.

Also, Dillon wants to retire...sounds like the Patriots will release him.

2/23/07

Agent: Patriots agree to release Corey Dillon Tom Casale, Patriots Football Weekly

According to Corey Dillon's agent, Steve Feldman, the Patriots have agreed to release his client on March 2.

Coorey Dillon’s agent, Steve Feldman, appeared on WSKO Providence’s late afternoon show and said the Patriots have agreed to release the veteran running back on March 2.

This comes after The Boston Globe reported Friday morning that Dillon asked the Patriots for his release so he can announce his retirement. Meanwhile, The Boston Herald quoted Feldman as saying Dillon has indeed asked to be released but it’s not definite whether or not he will retire. Either way, it looks like Dillon’s career with the Patriots could come to an end next week.

 
Can anyone confirm or deny Belichick's contract status? I can only find articles saying that his contract was extended 2 years ago through the 2006 season. But some places seem to think that he was re-signed through 2007.

IIRC, Belichick was given a 5-year deal initially (00-04) and a 2-year extension (05-06). By my math, he'd be unsigned as of March.

The team has repeatedly said it will not discuss his contract.

If anyone has any info, please post a link. TIA . . .
Found the same info you posted here. The only thing I saw that was remotely current (January 25th, 2007) was this:The Bill Belichick rumor silliness

And maybe, most interesting, multiple sources around the league believe that Belichick's contract, which does have three years remaining on it , is filled with mutual options that could allow him or the team to nullify the deal as early as next year.

 
It's changed a lot in the last couple of days.

The announcement on Chad Jackson is a shocker, since it was a month ago. Does it hurt? He was really a non-factor, but I was looking for him to develop. It surely doesn't help.

Then the release of TBuck. Again, a nonfactor, but depth for next year. Looks like somebody younger, that was more than adequate this year, will be staying on. Or Hawkins? He was fine as a safety.

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patr..._with_torn_acl/

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Kind of the shocker is Dillon. Maroney needs to really step it up next year. In looking at the cap figures, it seems to me to be almost neutral. There's about $4 million left of his signing bonus to pay out,. I'm not a cap expert, but doesn't it all accelerate to this year, if they cut him? Or, does it go to next year? Either way, it's dead money if they cut him. That's why the last thing I expected was a release. Even beside that fact, he's still a pretty solid contributor to the team.

http://www.patriots.com/news/index.cfm?ac=...230&pcid=41

 
thought he was preety happy in NE.

He may have shot himself in the foot

if he actually believes he can carry

the load for a team. The Patriot system

was ideal for him, imo.

 
I found it interesting reading about McCauley and the Patriots, since I saw his name in a few mock drafts going to the Pats as well (the Fresno connection of course). Lately though, it seems he was moving down the charts.

from Boston.com

Cornerback Marcus McCauley was one of the cornerbacks to meet with the media this morning, and he noted the connection between Fresno State and the Patriots.

"I'm definitely aware of it," said McCauley, who is one of the bigger corners in the draft at 6-feet, 203 pounds. "I talk to James Sanders and Logan Mankins and they say it's very similar there. Our coach [Pat Hill] runs the program like an NFL team."

McCauley said Sanders was present at a Fresno State game in 2006, at a time when McCauley had been struggling. He said Sanders gave him motivation to turn things around.

McCauley said he had plans to sit down for an interview with the Patriots today.

Official Bio

Height: 6-1 | Weight: 205 | 40-Time: 4.35

Strengths:

Has prototypical size...Timed speed is outstanding...Athletic and quick with fluid hips and a great burst...Physical and aggressive...A playmaker with pretty good ball skills...Has great body control, leaping ability and timing...Good tackler who will support versus the run...Has superb instincts for the game...A hard worker with good intangibles...Is able to play and excel in either man or zone coverage.

Weaknesses:

His technique and footwork can be inconsistent...Will gamble and take too many risks...Hands are questionable and he will drop some interceptions...Needs to get a little stronger...Was not really thrown at a lot in college...Has trouble locating the ball...Struggled mightily at times in 2006 and didn't have a great senior year.

Notes:

A better prospect than Richard Marshall (a 2nd round pick) was a year ago and he had a great rookie season for the Carolina Panthers...Really has all of the physical tools you look for in a top cornerback and should be able to step in and start very early on...The type of lockdown corner that every team is constantly searching for.

 
Can Rodney stay healthy? I am sure the Pats want him for his leadership.

Patriots | Harrison expected to return for 2007

Tue, 27 Feb 2007 18:16:49 -0800

The NFL Network reports New England Patriots SS Rodney Harrison is expected to return for the 2007 season.

 
Can Rodney stay healthy? I am sure the Pats want him for his leadership.

Patriots | Harrison expected to return for 2007

Tue, 27 Feb 2007 18:16:49 -0800

The NFL Network reports New England Patriots SS Rodney Harrison is expected to return for the 2007 season.
GB Rodney, love having him on the team when he's healthy. But I'm really hoping that they don't go into next season relying on him as much - he's a starter if he's healthy, but we need to have a better backup plan.
 
FWIW WR Tony Simmons is still playing in the CFL, remember him?

 
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I don't know where it came from, but it somehow made the EEI and ESPN Boston sports flash today that the Patriots are interested in acquiring Randy Moss.

FWIW.

 
FWIW WR Tony Simmons is still playing in the CFL, remember him?
Are you serious? That's pretty funny stuff. Outside of Devin Wyman (remember him?) no one looked better in the offseason than Tony Simmons. If he's still in the CFL that means correct route running isn't too important up north.
 
Alright boys...free agency starts tomorrow...any predictions/guesses as to whether the Pats dip their toes in. Adaluis Thomas would be pretty crazy but with the amount of money out there this offseason I'm not sure that's realistic so we'll probably have to aim lower.

My guess is they go after a safety. Micheal Lewis s a guy I have my eye on. He had an off year last year but he's still young, plays a physical game and will probably come very reasonable. A guy like Deon Grant is another guy I could see in Foxboro.

Any other guesses?

 
First of all, Dillon is released by midnight.

Safety is definitely a concern, and Michael Lewis is a pretty good idea to have out there. I think Aldius is going to be beyond what the Patriots want to spend, but then again the last time they signed one of the best FA's out there was Roosevelt Colvin, another LB (obviously). I think the LB group is in dire straits and a move for Thomas would not surprise nor displease me. If you look at Belichick/Pioli drafts since they've been here, they have never taken a LB in the first few rounds - Banta-Cain could perhaps be the highest guy taken at LB and he was, I THINK, a 4th round pick. I mostly attribute this to the fact that the NE system is complicated, and they don't feel comfortable with rookies being able to pick it up fast enough. As such, they're much more likely to address LB via free agency rather than the draft, IMO.

I'm going to take another look at the LB FA list look for some guys who are a bit under the radar over my lunch break.

 
First of all, Dillon is released by midnight.Safety is definitely a concern, and Michael Lewis is a pretty good idea to have out there. I think Aldius is going to be beyond what the Patriots want to spend, but then again the last time they signed one of the best FA's out there was Roosevelt Colvin, another LB (obviously). I think the LB group is in dire straits and a move for Thomas would not surprise nor displease me. If you look at Belichick/Pioli drafts since they've been here, they have never taken a LB in the first few rounds - Banta-Cain could perhaps be the highest guy taken at LB and he was, I THINK, a 4th round pick. I mostly attribute this to the fact that the NE system is complicated, and they don't feel comfortable with rookies being able to pick it up fast enough. As such, they're much more likely to address LB via free agency rather than the draft, IMO.I'm going to take another look at the LB FA list look for some guys who are a bit under the radar over my lunch break.
*Banta-Cain was a #7 and he was also a DE in college.*I share your thoughts on Thomas. The big difference between him and Colvin is the cap. Right now the cap could not be in more favor of the players. Colvin did not break the bank with the Pats and many thought he could have signed for more elsewhere. Thomas is going to get a silly contract and while there's not a player that could give the Pats more bang for the buck my fear is the money will be too silly.*Also agreed on the LB thoughts. Asking a rookie (regardless of how talented) to make a big impact with the Pats as a rookie could be a stretch. They also have never used a day 1 pick on one in the BB/Pioli era. Something has to give with this position so it will be something to really monitor. If they don't upgrade this area they will be swimming upstream in 07.
 
"If you look at Belichick/Pioli drafts since they've been here, they have never taken a LB in the first few rounds - Banta-Cain could perhaps be the highest guy taken at LB and he was, I THINK, a 4th round pick."

Banta-Cain was taken in the 7th round. The highest LB ever drafted in the Belichick era was Ryan Claridge in the 5th round out of UNLV.

 
"If you look at Belichick/Pioli drafts since they've been here, they have never taken a LB in the first few rounds - Banta-Cain could perhaps be the highest guy taken at LB and he was, I THINK, a 4th round pick."Banta-Cain was taken in the 7th round. The highest LB ever drafted in the Belichick era was Ryan Claridge in the 5th round out of UNLV.
Good info. You too Boston. I was too lazy to go look it up. :thumbup: The last big name LB the Patriots drafted, I BELIEVE...Andy KATZENMOYER. Under the previous regime, of course.
 
I'm a big fan of this mock draft from Patriots.com...it's packs a nice punch and really addresses a lot of needs both short term and long term.

http://www.patriots.com/news/index.cfm?ac=...296&pcid=46

Post-Combine Patriots mock draft Tom Casale, Patriots Football Weekly

With the Combine over, we have put together our first mock draft of the season. This is sure to change over the coming months but as of right now, these are some of the players we feel would fit in well with the Patriots.

Back from the Combine, we have put together our first Patriots mock draft of the year. Keep in mind that we haven’t watched a lot of film on these players yet and this is being done just before the start of free agency, so our draft is likely to change quite a bit over the next two months. We’ll update the mock draft in a couple of weeks after we see what New England does in free agency. This draft is based on Patriots needs, players we think would fit well with the team and tidbits we picked up at the Combine.

Round 1A

Jon Beason, LB Miami (6-0, 237) – PFW started the Patrick Willis bandwagon two months ago but unfortunately, too many people are now riding that train. Willis has propelled himself into the top 20, which means the Patriots would have to trade up to get him. If he’s gone, Beason would be a nice consolation prize. Primarily an outside backer at Miami, Beason would move inside for the Patriots. The athletic linebacker has drawn comparisons to Jonathan Vilma, a player Bill Belichick always speaks highly of.

On the surface, Beason looks like a Tampa 2 outside linebacker but that’s not necessarily the case. People at the Combine said Beason has the physical ability to move inside and play the MIKE in a 3-4 scheme. That would give the Patriots the luxury of grooming Beason behind Tedy Bruschi and using him on passing downs as a rookie because of his good coverage abilities. Beason is also a big hitter and solid special teams player. He would add some much needed youth and athleticism to an ageing position.

There isn’t a lot of buzz about Beason yet, but he’s shooting up draft boards and NFL Network’s Mike Mayock believes he’ll be selected in the first round. With his physical skills and instincts on the field, Beason would be a good fit in New England.

Round 1B

Chris Houston, CB Arkansas (5-10, 185) – Houston was the star of the Combine after running a 4.32 40-yard dash and doing 27 reps of 225 pounds. Some may think Houston is just a workout warrior but that’s not the case. Mayock had him highly rated before the Combine based on Houston’s play last year. In 2006, he went up against Dwayne Jarrett, Robert Meachem and Dwayne Bowe – all possible first round receivers – and held them to a combined 14 receptions for 168 yards and one touchdown. That’s pretty impressive considering all the hype surrounding those three receivers.

After franchising Asante Samuel and with Ellis Hobbs emerging, the Patriots are sitting pretty when it comes to starting corners. However, they have very little depth at that position. New England enters the offseason with no clear-cut third corner on the roster. Houston can come in and play the slot as a rookie but he also has the skills to become a shutdown corner down the road. Houston is a great athlete with all the physical talent teams look for in a defensive back. Plus, playing his best against the toughest receivers he faced last year will bode well for Houston on draft day.

Here at PFW, we think there’s a good chance the Patriots could trade one of their two first round picks. This is a draft where there doesn’t appear to be much difference in players who are projected to go in the late-first round area from those expected to go in Round 3. This could be a situation where New England trades down to get more value or adds picks for the future. However, if they stay put at 28 and Houston is on the board, he would be a great addition to the Patriots secondary.

Round 2

Aaron Rouse, S Virginia Tech (6-4, 223) – You can see the theme here of adding young, athletic playmakers on the defensive side of the ball. Rouse is a player in the mold of former Cowboy Darren Woodson. He started his college career at linebacker before moving to safety. Rouse has great size and is very physical against he run. What makes him such an appealing prospect is Rouse has the speed and range to defend the deep middle of the field as well.

Another reason we like Rouse as a possible Patriot is he has a little Rodney Harrison in him. He’s an intimidator who plays with a mean streak. There is some question about Rouse being a LB/S tweener but those things don’t concern the Patriots as much as other teams because they like their players to be versatile. With Harrison’s phenomenal career coming to a close, Rouse would be a nice understudy to replace the veteran as the hard-hitting enforcer in New England’s defensive backfield.

Round 3

Jason Hill, WR Washington State (6-0, 204) – I’ve been projecting Hill to the Patriots here for the last month but that dream might have come to an end after be blazed a 4.32 40-yard dash at the Combine. Hill is still considered a third round prospect because this draft is so deep at receiver but that could change as his stock continues to soar.

I’ve been backing Hill because I think he would be a perfect fit for the Patriots system. Hill’s not only explosive, he’s also willing to go over the middle and make tough catches. Hill is known as a great route runner and has the intelligence to pick up an NFL offense quickly. He could come right in and help the Patriots at a position where they really need players to step up. Hill showed a knack for finding the end zone in college. His 32 touchdown receptions are a Washington State record and rank second all-time in Pac 10 history.

Round 4

Brian Robison, DE/OLB Texas (6-3, 259) – Robison is coming off a stellar senior season and great showing at the Combine. He played both defensive end and linebacker for the Longhorns, but projects as a standup OLB in a 3-4 scheme at the pro level. Mayock doesn’t believe there is a sure-fire first round defensive end that can play in the 3-4 like DeMarcus Ware and Kamerion Wimbley who have come out recently. Because of that, the Patriots could look for a mid-round prospect at that position and Robison would be a good choice.

Robison has the burst to rush off the edge along with the ability to drop back and play in space. His stock is rising after a strong Combine but he was a pretty good player throughout his time at Texas as well. Robison isn’t going to come right in and start but he’s a smart kid who can add depth as a pass rusher early on in his career. Robison also blocked six kicks in college, adding to his value as a special teams player.

Round 6A

Dwayne Wright, RB Fresno State (5-11, 227) - Wright is a big guy who can play that RB/FB hybrid position similar to Heath Evans and Patrick Pass.

The former Bulldog is a powerful runner who wears down defenses between the tackles. He doesn’t have great speed but is a versatile player who can do a lot for a team.

Wright came back in 2006 after tearing the patellar tendon in his knee to rush for 1,462 yards and 11 touchdowns as a junior. He also caught 29 passes last season for Fresno State. Because he’s not very fast, Wright will probably never be an every-down back in the NFL. However, his ability to block, play special teams and be a short-yardage back makes him an intriguing prospect late in the draft.

Round 6B

Desmond Bishop, ILB Cal (6-1, 239) - Bishop is one of the better run-stuffing linebackers in the draft. He’s not blazing fast and won’t wow anyone running the 40, but when you see him on the field he just makes plays. Bishop led the Pac-10 with 124 tackles last year, so he’s proven to be a force against the run.

Bishop is that big, physical linebacker the Patriots haven’t had since Ted Johnson retired. He’s very productive playing in the box and Bishop has the size to take on bigger offensive linemen. He played some 3-4 at Cal and Bishop said at the Combine that he liked the scheme because it allows him to mix it up with offensive linemen and be physical. Bishop also felt like he wood be a good fit in New England.

“I like their style of play, their toughness,” Bishop said. “That’s how I play. I think I would be a good fit with the Patriots.”

Bishop will probably fall too far in the draft because of his timed speed but he’s a productive football player and would be a steal in the sixth round.

Round 7

Leonard Peters, S Hawaii (6-1, 218) – This guy is a flat-out maniac. He’ll probably only last four years in the NFL because of his reckless style of play. Peters is very effective against the run and plays faster than his 40-time suggests. However, durability issues will probably make Peters a late-round pick.

The reason Peters would be a good fit in New England is because of his ability to be a one-man wrecking crew on special teams. This guy likes to hit anything that moves. He does have decent range and could develop into a nice backup at safety but Peters will most likely earn his paycheck in the NFL on special teams. The Patriots found a special teams ace in the seventh round last year with Willie Andrews. Peters could be a similar kind of player but instead of running by people, he will run through them. If Peters makes an active NFL roster next season, he’ll be on Sportscenter at least once thanks to a bone-jarring hit.

 
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FWIW WR Tony Simmons is still playing in the CFL, remember him?
Are you serious? That's pretty funny stuff. Outside of Devin Wyman (remember him?) no one looked better in the offseason than Tony Simmons. If he's still in the CFL that means correct route running isn't too important up north.
yep. How old would you guess he is? 40?
 
Alright boys...free agency starts tomorrow...any predictions/guesses as to whether the Pats dip their toes in. Adaluis Thomas would be pretty crazy but with the amount of money out there this offseason I'm not sure that's realistic so we'll probably have to aim lower. My guess is they go after a safety. Micheal Lewis s a guy I have my eye on. He had an off year last year but he's still young, plays a physical game and will probably come very reasonable. A guy like Deon Grant is another guy I could see in Foxboro.Any other guesses?
Michael Lewis is a good young player and very good in run support. He has struggled in pass coverage a bit though. I would like to see him back in Philly, but not on andy's good side.
 
That's a nice mock you posted. I agree the picks make a lot of sense. For that reason, it's pretty far off. ;)

 
That's a nice mock you posted. I agree the picks make a lot of sense. For that reason, it's pretty far off. ;)
You have a better chance winning the lottery than predicting what the Pats will do. It's pretty amazing how they continue to surprise. No matter how much you follow them you still can't guess what they'll do.
 
WEEI is reporting that the Pats tendered Randall Gay at 1.3 million/second round compensation. This is pretty interesting. Gay has been MIA for two years due to injury and really has been forgotten. This move could mean they still have hope for him. With the Pats CB depth severly lacking he has an opportunity although I see quite a few moves eventually being made in the secondary this offseason.

 
WEEI is reporting that the Pats tendered Randall Gay at 1.3 million/second round compensation. This is pretty interesting. Gay has been MIA for two years due to injury and really has been forgotten. This move could mean they still have hope for him. With the Pats CB depth severly lacking he has an opportunity although I see quite a few moves eventually being made in the secondary this offseason.
1.3 isn't alot to pay though, if he plays of course.The way the NFL is heading the average guy could make 2 mil and they'd be under the cap.
 
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JetsWillWin said:
Joey Porter could be a nice addition.
Not a Pats type of player. I just dont see it. He didnt do much last year either.
Since we are talking Free Agency, what about Eric Moulds? I'm not talking as the #1 WR, but another target for Brady. I know the Texans cut him. Also, saw a posting somewhere that the Pats were interested in Randy Moss??? When you talk about players that do not seem to fit the Patriots mold, he would come to mind. What is the talk up in Boston? Other FA WRs out there now include Horn and Stokley (torn ACL?). I still think Moulds could be a good fit.Moulds Stats:Year TM | G | Att Yards Y/A TD | Rec Yards Y/R TD |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+| 1996 buf | 16 | 12 44 3.7 0 | 20 279 13.9 2 || 1997 buf | 16 | 4 59 14.8 0 | 29 294 10.1 0 || 1998 buf | 16 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 67 1368 20.4 9 || 1999 buf | 14 | 1 1 1.0 0 | 65 994 15.3 7 || 2000 buf | 16 | 2 24 12.0 0 | 94 1326 14.1 5 || 2001 buf | 16 | 3 3 1.0 0 | 67 904 13.5 5 || 2002 buf | 16 | 1 7 7.0 0 | 100 1287 12.9 10 || 2003 buf | 13 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 64 780 12.2 1 || 2004 buf | 16 | 5 19 3.8 0 | 88 1043 11.9 5 || 2005 buf | 15 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 81 816 10.1 4 || 2006 hou | 16 | 1 6 6.0 0 | 57 557 9.8 1 |With Graham going to FA, who fills his place? I saw that Wiggins was cut by the Vikings...he has been a Pat twice before, maybe third time is a charm. lol
 
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Looks like the Pats might sign Kyle Brady to take Graham's place. Makes a lot of sense. Brady isn't a very good receiving TE but he's a very good blocker and he'll probably sign for a fraction of what Graham will get on the open market.

 
From SI.com:

Where will the biggest of the free-agent names end up? Sources I talked to Thursday said not to discount linebacker Adalius Thomas winding up with New England -- despite an expected price tag that could approach $9 million per season. While many anticipate Thomas being reunited with former Ravens defensive coordinator Mike Nolan in San Francisco, some within the league said the 49ers won't necessarily make a strong push for him.
If the rumor that SF has signed Nate Clements is true, I think that takes the Niners out of the Thomas running (I just don't see John York paying for both of the two most expensive players in FA). That gives the Patriots chances of getting Thomas a BIG boost.
 
Some moves by the Patriots organization as of 3/2/07

Running back Cory Dillon was released by the team.

Fullback Heath Evans was re-signed by the team.

Offensive lineman Billy Yates was re-signed by the team.

The Rams have made outside linebacker/defensive end Tully Banta-Cain an early priority, as they are hosting him on a free-agent visit today in St. Louis. Sims added that Banta-Cain has also received interest from the Steelers, Dolphins and 49ers, among others. He said Banta-Cain hasn't ruled out a return to the Patriots.

In addition to tight end Kyle Brady , the Patriots hosted running back Sammy Morris on a free-agent visit today at Gillette Stadium.

The Patriots have offered cornerback Randall Gay a one-year, $1.3 million contract.

Tight end Daniel Graham has not signed a contract -- or even discussed contract terms -- with the Denver Broncos today

 
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