*** New England Patriot Offseason (2007) *** (1 Viewer)

[rabidfireweasel]

Testaverde gone?I wouldn't mind the Pats nosing into the Trent Green discussions. I like Cassell but they need a vet too.Fins are only offerring a 7th(fine by me), Chiefs want a 2nd(too much, don't have it-Welker). Lions are interested in him too and.....If it's for 5th or later, wouldn't ya want the Pats to inquire?

My guess is it depends on what they think of Cassell. Is he ready to be the unquestioned backup or are there still questions? If they're comfortable with him I could see them bringing in a rookie like Kolb to develop. If they're not totally sold on Cassell than veteran insurance would make a ton of sense (and could even if they are comfortable with Cassell).

Usually I agree with most things that you post re: NE. But I think they are going to have to trade up to get Kolb. I don't think he lasts until the late third. I don't see them trading up to get a first day QB.

 

[Bri]

Is there a spot open for Romeo? Assistant Head coach or some not so typical spot that's usually filled?

His days seem so numberred in Cleveland I was just curious if there was something missing that was there in year's past.

Some teams use weird titles(like Parcells having a run game cooridinator and passing game cooridinator at one time) so it's a little hard to keep track of year to year.

 

[Boston]

Testaverde gone?I wouldn't mind the Pats nosing into the Trent Green discussions. I like Cassell but they need a vet too.Fins are only offerring a 7th(fine by me), Chiefs want a 2nd(too much, don't have it-Welker). Lions are interested in him too and.....If it's for 5th or later, wouldn't ya want the Pats to inquire?

My guess is it depends on what they think of Cassell. Is he ready to be the unquestioned backup or are there still questions? If they're comfortable with him I could see them bringing in a rookie like Kolb to develop. If they're not totally sold on Cassell than veteran insurance would make a ton of sense (and could even if they are comfortable with Cassell).

Usually I agree with most things that you post re: NE. But I think they are going to have to trade up to get Kolb. I don't think he lasts until the late third. I don't see them trading up to get a first day QB.

I was kind of using his name generically because I've read they have talked to him (Stanton is another guy I know they have talked to if that means anything). I see them drafting a QB but like you said I don't see them going balls out and trading up to get one too early. Yet, because I said that and because they are the Pats that probably means that's exactly what they'll do. My guess is they'll use a day two pick and hope they find someone that shows enough in camp that they feel comfortable investing time in like they have with Cassell.

 

[nerangers]

Don't Laugh guys...but is Drew Bledsoe an option for a backup veteran for the Patriots? He would fill the same kind of role as Flutie and Testaverde. Is there too much bad blood there because we traded him to Buffalo? Just curious what others thought.

 

[ROCKET]

A day 1 pick on a qb would be insane. We will have our wagon hitched to Brady for the next 5+ years and if he goes down we're toast. How well do you think the Colts would do if Peyton would go down? We should sign some mediocre qb for a backup and try to find a developmental guy on the second day. The Pats window to win titles is now with Brady and on day 1 they should fill every hole they can outside of backup qb. Like it or not most teams are not SB contenders when their #1 qb goes down. Drafting a 2nd/3rd round rookie won't change that any time soon for the Pats. Unless the Pats see some absolutely amazing value dropping in their laps I can't even imagine them thinking QB early on.

 

[Davej626]

Some thoughts on this.

BB said on Channel 5 the other day with Mike Lynch that their phone is "very active with teams calling to trade down." He went on to explain that they have two first rounders, and no other team does, and that other teams are very interested in moving down. He didn't sound very excited (does he ever?) about moving, he was just answering the question. I could see them moving up to get one of the top LBs or S in the draft. But, as you all mentioned earlier, trying to guess what they do is a funny science.

I also think Bledsoe would be looked at by the club as he knows the offense, and could be a great fit. I doubt that Drew would come back here though. One of those, we would love to have you, but you don't trust us, so I guess there won't be a reunion.

I also see the Pats drafting a QB. However, I think it will be a second day flyer that they hope will make it through camp.

 

[Boston]

Some thoughts on this.BB said on Channel 5 the other day with Mike Lynch that their phone is "very active with teams calling to trade down." He went on to explain that they have two first rounders, and no other team does, and that other teams are very interested in moving down. He didn't sound very excited (does he ever?) about moving, he was just answering the question. I could see them moving up to get one of the top LBs or S in the draft. But, as you all mentioned earlier, trying to guess what they do is a funny science.I also think Bledsoe would be looked at by the club as he knows the offense, and could be a great fit. I doubt that Drew would come back here though. One of those, we would love to have you, but you don't trust us, so I guess there won't be a reunion. I also see the Pats drafting a QB. However, I think it will be a second day flyer that they hope will make it through camp.

I think the big issue with Bledsoe is he's not a fit for their offense. BB was not a fan of him before (Patriot Reign by Michael Holley has some good stuff on this). BB didn't like his decision-making process which has never been Drew's strongpoint, especially in the short passing game.

 

[PMENFAN]

Testaverde gone?I wouldn't mind the Pats nosing into the Trent Green discussions. I like Cassell but they need a vet too.Fins are only offerring a 7th(fine by me), Chiefs want a 2nd(too much, don't have it-Welker). Lions are interested in him too and.....If it's for 5th or later, wouldn't ya want the Pats to inquire?

My guess is it depends on what they think of Cassell. Is he ready to be the unquestioned backup or are there still questions? If they're comfortable with him I could see them bringing in a rookie like Kolb to develop. If they're not totally sold on Cassell than veteran insurance would make a ton of sense (and could even if they are comfortable with Cassell).

I think they're absolutely comfortable w/ Cassell. He was the lone backup for half the season last year. Unfortunately they need to start thinking about bringing in another youngster to develop. I'm thinking they draft sombody again and see how it pans out. No panic mode here though.

 

[Bri]

Cincy's missing Washington now I guess. I really hope this kid is fired up and into the offseason program, he's much more talented than people seem to think. Good attitude, strong coaching, could really be a sweet FA signing.

That said, if he's "eh" about the offseason stuff well then I'm about ready to write him off.

 

[nerangers]

The Patriots’ 2007 schedule:

Sunday, Sept. 9 -- at Jets (CBS, 1 p.m.)

Sunday, Sept. 16 -- vs. Chargers (NBC, 8:15 p.m.)

Sunday, Sept. 23 -- vs. Bills (CBS, 1 p.m.)

Monday, Oct. 1 -- at Bengals (ESPN, 8:30 p.m.)

Sunday, Oct. 7 -- vs. Browns (CBS, 1 p.m.)

Sunday, Oct. 14 -- at Cowboys (CBS, 4:15 p.m.)

Sunday, Oct. 21 -- at Dolphins (CBS, 1 p.m.)

Sunday, Oct. 28 -- vs. Redskins (FOX, 4:15 p.m.)

Sunday, Nov. 4 -- at Colts (CBS, 4:15 p.m.)

Sunday, Nov. 11 -- BYE

Sunday, Nov. 18 -- at Bills (CBS, 1 p.m.)*

Sunday, Nov. 25 -- vs. Eagles (NBC, 8:15 p.m.)*

Monday, Dec. 3 -- at Baltimore (8:30 p.m.)

Sunday, Dec. 9 -- vs. Steelers (CBS, 1 p.m.)*

Sunday, Dec. 16 -- vs. Jets (CBS, 1 p.m.)*

Sunday, Dec. 23 -- vs. Dolphins (CBS, 1 p.m.)*

Saturday, Dec. 29 -- at Giants (NFL Network, 8:30 p.m.)

Good breakdown by Mike Reiss

Some instant analysis on the Patriots’ schedule:

The team’s bye week is well placed, after nine games. That would be right around the midpoint of the team’s entire season, if the team reached its goal of winning the Super Bowl. That is a nice change for the team from last year, when the bye came after five games.

Five night games -- and three on the road -- will challenge the team to stay in its regular routine.

In what would seemingly be an advantage, the Patriots do not face a team that is coming off a bye week.

The Cowboys will have a short week before facing the Patriots Oct. 14, as Dallas visits Buffalo in a Monday night game Oct. 8.

The Patriots visit the Dolphins Oct. 21, the week before the Dolphins travel to London to face the Giants.

In the week before the Patriots visit the Colts, the Patriots will be coming off a home game against the Redskins, while the Colts will be following a road game at the Panthers. Minor advantage to the Patriots. The Patriots’ bye comes after they play the Colts.

Looking at short weeks is always important. Following their Oct. 1 Monday night game in Cincinnati, the Patriots follow up with a home game against the Browns. Following their Dec. 3 Monday night game in Baltimore, the Patriots follow up with a home game against the Steelers. Having home games after road Monday night games is good for the Patriots.

The Steelers come to New England Dec. 9 after a Sunday night home game against arguably their top rival, the Bengals. The Steelers host the Dolphins in a Monday night game the week before facing the Bengals. That would seemingly be a good spot for New England, after the Steelers have two emotional nationally televised games.

The team is home for four of the final six games -- and there are no long road trips after the bye (Buffalo, Baltimore, New York) -- which would seemingly be a benefit.

Seven outside-the-hash-marks facts on the Patriots' opponents and schedule:

1) Only one game -- Oct. 21 in Miami -- will be played on natural grass.

2) The Patriots visit the Bengals Oct. 1. That is the same date the Patriots visited the Bengals last season.

3) The Patriots' trip to Dallas (Oct. 14) is their first since 1996. The team has never won in Dallas (4 games).

4) The Eagles' regular-season visit to Foxborough Nov. 25 is their first in 20 years.

5) The Patriots' three-game homestand in December is their first three-game homestand since 2004.

6) The Oct. 28 home game against the Redskins gives Tom Brady a chance to beat Washington in a regular-season game, which would give him at least one win over every team in the league since 2001. The Redskins are the only team he hasn't beaten.

7) The Patriots haven't beaten the Redskins since 1972. They are the only team the Patriots have not defeated since the Kraft family purchased the team in 1994.

 

[Exile]

and there are no long road trips after the bye

Not just that, but overall this is a VERY low mileage schedule. The farthest they have to travel is Dallas and Miami. The other 6 road games are all in the northeast or at least the east: NY (twice - Jets and Giants), Buffalo, Cinci, Baltimore, Indy. That's nice.

 

[David Yudkin]

Bledsoe retired so he obviously is not a consideration. But Patten is . . . and he was in town recently for a look. For now it doesn't look like things really went anywhere, but he's on the their radar.

 

[Boston]

Bledsoe retired so he obviously is not a consideration. But Patten is . . . and he was in town recently for a look. For now it doesn't look like things really went anywhere, but he's on the their radar.

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/reiss_pieces/April 12, 2007

Patten gets look

The Patriots hosted free agent receiver David Patten on a visit earlier this month. The 32-year-old Patten, who played for the Patriots from 2001-2004, played the last two seasons with the Redskins.

Patten also visited with the Saints earlier in free agency, and New Orleans would seem to be a more likely landing spot for him at this time.

Regarding Patten's visit to the Patriots, his agent, Mark Lepselter, said: "He loves it up there and doesn't forget how good New England was to him. They gave him an opportunity in '01 that no one else did. He won three Super Bowls. It was a great part of his career."

If both Patten and Troy return things are shaping up for a very heated training camp competition. They'd have seven viable candidates (Stallworth, Welker, Patten, Troy, Washington, Gaffney and Caldwell) for probably five spots and that's assuming they don't use a pick on another WR. My guess is Welker and Stallworth are definite locks and I'd be totally shockedif they have Troy come back and than cut him. That leaves two spots open. I don't think it's getting ahead of myself to say this position should be vastly improved over the 2006 unit.

 

[David Yudkin]

I since found another blurb on the Globe site that things Patten will not be coming back . . .

The Patriots hosted free agent David Patten on a visit earlier this month. Patten, who played in 54 games with 44 starts for the Patriots from 2001-04, spent the last two seasons with the Redskins.While the Patriots explored the possibility of re-signing Patten, the receiver will probably land elsewhere, most likely with the Saints. Patten, 32, visited with New Orleans earlier in free agency.Regarding Patten's visit to the Patriots, his agent, Mark Lepselter, said: "He loves it up there and doesn't forget how good New England was to him. They gave him an opportunity in '01 that no one else did. He won three Super Bowls. It was a great part of his career."

 

[nerangers]

I read that Patten was signed by the Saints.

I must have missed Bledsoe retiring...

Still looking good for the Pats going Safety in the first round...

Patriots | Team to look for safety in draft

Wed, 11 Apr 2007 21:00:35 -0700

John Tomase, reporting for the Sporting News, reports the New England Patriots will be taking a close look at safety in the upcoming NFL Draft. Three players that have drawn their interest are Miami S Brandon Meriweather, Texas S Michael Griffin and Florida S Reggie Nelson.

 

[nerangers]

Bledsoe retired so he obviously is not a consideration. But Patten is . . . and he was in town recently for a look. For now it doesn't look like things really went anywhere, but he's on the their radar.

Drew Bledsoe, QB DALNews: Drew Bledsoe retired Wednesday, ending a 14-season career in which he made two Super Bowls. The top overall pick by New England in the 1993 draft out of Washington State, the four-time Pro Bowl quarterback played for the Patriots, Buffalo Bills and Dallas Cowboys. He was a starter for all three teams, but ended up as a backup with the Cowboys. Bledsoe threw for 44,611 yards and 251 touchdown passes in his career. "I feel so fortunate, so honored, to have played this game that I love for so long, with so many great players, and in front of so many wonderful fans," he said. "I fulfilled a childhood dream the first time I stepped on an NFL field, and the league did not let me down one time. I retire with a smile on my face, in good health, and ready to spend autumns at my kids' games instead of my own. I'm excited to start the next chapter of my life."Analysis: The 35-year-old Bledsoe lost his starting job to Tom Brady in New England in 2001 when Bledsoe got hurt in the second game of the season, and to Tony Romo in Dallas after Game 6 of last season. He also asked for his release from the Bills after the 2004 season, when the team informed him it was going with J.P. Losman as the starter the next year. Bledsoe didn't want to be a backup there after he led the Bills to the brink of the playoffs. He then signed with the Cowboys and was their starter for all of 2005 and part of '06. He finishes seventh all-time in yards passing, 13th in touchdown passes and fifth in completions (3,839).

 

[Exile]

I read that Patten was signed by the Saints.I must have missed Bledsoe retiring...Still looking good for the Pats going Safety in the first round...Patriots | Team to look for safety in draftWed, 11 Apr 2007 21:00:35 -0700John Tomase, reporting for the Sporting News, reports the New England Patriots will be taking a close look at safety in the upcoming NFL Draft. Three players that have drawn their interest are Miami S Brandon Meriweather, Texas S Michael Griffin and Florida S Reggie Nelson.

What do people here think about Meriweather? I've seen some mocks/lists put him as the #2 S after Landry, but there are apparently character issues.

 

[jgb95]

What do people here think about Meriweather? I've seen some mocks/lists put him as the #2 S after Landry, but there are apparently character issues.

He's from the U of course there are character issues.

 

[nerangers]

What do people here think about Meriweather? I've seen some mocks/lists put him as the #2 S after Landry, but there are apparently character issues.

He's from the U of course there are character issues.

I have seen him ranked around #4 behind Landry, Griffin, and Nelson. I think the Pats would go with Griffin over Meriweather if available.Brandon Meriweather Height: 5-105/8 | Weight: 195 | 40-Time: 4.47 Strengths:Smooth athlete with fluid hips...Has excellent range and excels in coverage...Very instinctive and a playmaker with solid hands and ball skills...He plays fast and has superb timed speed...A physical player who will throw his body around...Reliable tackler who can lay the lumber and will play the run...Very versatile and could play a number of roles in the secondary...Smart and a hard worker who is reportedly a leader...Durable and productive with lots of experience against elite competition. Weaknesses:Lacks the ideal bulk that you look for...Needs to get stronger...His reckless style of play has led to injuries and durability is a big question mark...Has some major character concerns and a number of incidents that will need to be checked into. Notes:Could potentially play either safety spot and maybe even corner in the pros...Was caught on tape stomping and kicking a player who was on the ground during the infamous Miami / Florida International brawl...He returned fire at an assailant who shot his roommate in the offseason prior to his senior year but no charges were filed because he owned the gun legally...A potential first rounder based on talent alone but he will likely fall in the draft due to all of the off-the-field considerations.

 

[ROCKET]

There is zero, absolutely zero chance the Pats take Merriwether. They are'nt stupid enough to waste first round picks on players with his kind of baggage. Some team will take him and hope he behaves but it won't be the Pats. Guns, brawls etc. are enough to move players way down a lot of teams boards especially after seeing Tenn get burned on Pacman. I can't recall Belioli ever spending any draft pick let alone a first rounder on someone with a checkered past. The Pats are unpredictable but you can be assured whoever they take won't have character issues.

ETA: Vince Wilfork was from the U and I don't recall him having baggage?

 

[jgb95]

Vince and Andre Johnson but that's what 2 out of 250!!!!

Come on now.

 

[Bri]

Brief poll of sorts- Do you want the Pats to trade up and get a high pick, stay "pat", or trade down with their 2 1sts?

 

[bostonfred]

Brief poll of sorts- Do you want the Pats to trade up and get a high pick, stay "pat", or trade down with their 2 1sts?

I want the Pats to improve their secondary. If they can work out a deal with Asante, or at least smooth things over, then I'd prefer they stay pat. If not, I'd be in favor of trading Asante and #28 to Washington, pick up the 6th pick and get Landry, then use the 24 on one of the corners that's expected to be there.

 

[Exile]

Brief poll of sorts- Do you want the Pats to trade up and get a high pick, stay "pat", or trade down with their 2 1sts?

I want the Pats to improve their secondary. If they can work out a deal with Asante, or at least smooth things over, then I'd prefer they stay pat. If not, I'd be in favor of trading Asante and #28 to Washington, pick up the 6th pick and get Landry, then use the 24 on one of the corners that's expected to be there.

This is exactly what I want to happen. Landry is the goods and the Pats will have great choices of CB at #24.Barring that, stay pat and/or trade down (depending on who is there at 24/28).

 

[Bri]

I hope the Pats have a meet N greet with Al Wilson to find out more about his injuries and all. If he needs a year off to heal or have surgery...so be it, I'd love to see him healthy on the Pats

 

[Pat Patriot]

Landry is on my wish list. I would trade Asante and #28 to Washington for #6. Then I would trade down with the #24 to the top of the 2nd round and take Brian Leonard and gain another 2 next year or high 3 this year.

 

[Boston]

Landry is on my wish list. I would trade Asante and #28 to Washington for #6. Then I would trade down with the #24 to the top of the 2nd round and take Brian Leonard and gain another 2 next year or high 3 this year.

Agreed about Landry. He intrigues me. If he's the player many say he'll be he would be a huge addition. The Pats D will always be better if there's a hard hitting safety who can play close to the line as well as take care of things in coverage (the Pats D is just that much better when Rodney's playing). In the Pats scheme that is a huge role. Those players do not grow on trees and soldifying that position for the foreseeable future (we all know the clock's ticking on Rodney) will settle down the secondary. I really like Asante a lot but if the Pats think Landry is a special player I think that's a move that makes sense. It gives BB another chess piece and that's when he's at his best. As for the other pick I want that spent on D as well. If you can add two first round picks to go along with Adalius Thomas I think you have the chance to have stifling D, one that's much better than last year's unit (which was very good...Indy game not withstanding). I do like Leonard (and would not be botherd if they pick him) but I really think you'll get more bang for the buck both short and long term by adding a player like Aaron Ross or David Harris to an already formidable defense.The bottomline is this team is very close and a solid draft could really put them over the top.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

Landry is on my wish list. I would trade Asante and #28 to Washington for #6. Then I would trade down with the #24 to the top of the 2nd round and take Brian Leonard and gain another 2 next year or high 3 this year.

 

[jgb95]

Patriots | James signs

Tue, 17 Apr 2007 13:57:05 -0700

ESPNews reports the New England Patriots have signed unrestricted free-agent CB Tory James (Bengals) to a one-year deal. Financial terms were not available.

 

[nerangers]

Patriots | James signs

Tue, 17 Apr 2007 13:57:05 -0700

ESPNews reports the New England Patriots have signed unrestricted free-agent CB Tory James (Bengals) to a one-year deal. Financial terms were not available.

more info:from Boston.com

James agrees

The Patriots have reached an agreement in principle on a one-year contract with free-agent cornerback Tory James.

The agreement was initially reported by ESPN's John Clayton and the NFL Network's Adam Schefter.

Those reports have since been confirmed by a league source.

James, who turns 34 next month, has played for Denver (1996-99), Oakland (2000-2002) and Cincinnati (2003-2006). In his 11 seasons in the NFL, he has played all 16 games in a season in all but two years. He has 39 career interceptions, with 21 coming in the last four years.

At 6-foot-2, 192 pounds, James adds size and depth to the Patriots' cornerback corps.

also from ESPN: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2840980

 

[Boston]

Looks like Ted Ginn was in town today:

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patr..._gets_look.html

 

[Phlash]

Ginn would be GREAT. An ultra fast return guy, with WR skills on top. He's like Bethel Johnson only he can catch the ball and run routes

 

[PMENFAN]

Brief poll of sorts- Do you want the Pats to trade up and get a high pick, stay "pat", or trade down with their 2 1sts?

I want the Pats to improve their secondary. If they can work out a deal with Asante, or at least smooth things over, then I'd prefer they stay pat. If not, I'd be in favor of trading Asante and #28 to Washington, pick up the 6th pick and get Landry, then use the 24 on one of the corners that's expected to be there.

I like Asante, but I don't love him. For cap reasons, I like this approach better. This is a solid secondary draft, and if they can make this deal happen, I like itl it gives more cap room for a few years, more talent overall and a better overall team. I think Asante is good, but made a lot better in the system. My gut is telling me that he's asking for #1 in the league corner money, on par with Clements, or darn close to it. I know he's not worth it. Let somebody else pay the penalty and move on. Is he top 10? Probably. But, it's the system, system, system. To me, riches or rings and still substantial riches? I'd go w/ the package adn lesser riches, but that's me, and I've never cracked a single million in a year.

 

[jgb95]

Ginn would be GREAT. An ultra fast return guy, with WR skills on top. He's like Bethel Johnson only he can catch the ball and run routes

I read that routes were his main weakness.

 

[nerangers]

I found this interested since everyone thought the Patriots 2007 schedule was favorable:

STRENGTH OF SCHEDULE: The Patriots have the third-most difficult schedule in 2007 , although strength of schedule can be a tricky stat at this point of the year. In 2004, for example, the Patriots entered the year with the seventh most difficult schedule. But as it turned out, at the end of that season, the Patriots' strength of schedule was 17th. It was a good example of how things change considerably from year to year.

 

[David Yudkin]

The NFL ruled in favor of the Players' Association and Todd Sauerbrun on Tuesday, declaring the Patriots' right of first refusal null and void.

Basically, you can't have contracts with right of first refusal or matching terms in them. Those are reserved for the various types of free agents as contained in the CBA, but teams can't apply them on their own.

 

[nerangers]

I think I will believe it when he finally files the paperwork!

NFL | Dillon will retire

Thu, 19 Apr 2007 17:02:44 -0700

Adam Schefter, of the NFL Network, reports free-agent RB Corey Dillon (Patriots) will retire.

Edit for more info:

Corey Dillon, RB NE

News: NFL Network reports that free-agent RB Corey Dillon is planning to retire, according to those close to him. Dillon has been courted by the Titans and Bills, but neither team has been appealing to the 10-year veteran. Dillon has already hinted at retirement once this offseason, speaking about it in January when he asked for his release from the Patriots.

Analysis: In 10 seasons, Dillon has 11,241 yards and 96 touchdowns, averaging 4.3 yards per carry throughout his career. Dillon was expected to garner lots of attention in the free-agent market, but he really hasn't been in big demand. He's pretty much a late-round flier at this moment in time, though that would change if he did come back for his 11th season.

 

[PMENFAN]

I think I will believe it when he finally files the paperwork!NFL | Dillon will retireThu, 19 Apr 2007 17:02:44 -0700Adam Schefter, of the NFL Network, reports free-agent RB Corey Dillon (Patriots) will retire.

How bad do you think he's regretting asking for that release? I'm still bummed the Pats took the cap hit. We could still use him, if he's willing to come back. We're already paying him. If he's willing to play here, we might as well let him.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

How bad do you think he's regretting asking for that release? I'm still bummed the Pats took the cap hit. We could still use him, if he's willing to come back. We're already paying him. If he's willing to play here, we might as well let him.

At this point, I would rather have Sammie Morris.

 

[bostonfred]

Brief poll of sorts- Do you want the Pats to trade up and get a high pick, stay "pat", or trade down with their 2 1sts?

I want the Pats to improve their secondary. If they can work out a deal with Asante, or at least smooth things over, then I'd prefer they stay pat. If not, I'd be in favor of trading Asante and #28 to Washington, pick up the 6th pick and get Landry, then use the 24 on one of the corners that's expected to be there.

I like Asante, but I don't love him. For cap reasons, I like this approach better. This is a solid secondary draft, and if they can make this deal happen, I like itl it gives more cap room for a few years, more talent overall and a better overall team. I think Asante is good, but made a lot better in the system. My gut is telling me that he's asking for #1 in the league corner money, on par with Clements, or darn close to it. I know he's not worth it. Let somebody else pay the penalty and move on. Is he top 10? Probably. But, it's the system, system, system. To me, riches or rings and still substantial riches? I'd go w/ the package adn lesser riches, but that's me, and I've never cracked a single million in a year.

I agree about Asante, but I still hope they come to a deal, even if it's expensive. Finding another system corner isn't easy, and this team is close to another Superbowl. The Tom Brady/Bill Belichick window won't last forever, and I want them to win another championship while they still can.

 

[Boston]

I think I will believe it when he finally files the paperwork!NFL | Dillon will retireThu, 19 Apr 2007 17:02:44 -0700Adam Schefter, of the NFL Network, reports free-agent RB Corey Dillon (Patriots) will retire.

How bad do you think he's regretting asking for that release? I'm still bummed the Pats took the cap hit. We could still use him, if he's willing to come back. We're already paying him. If he's willing to play here, we might as well let him.

Pioli was on WEEI awhile back and basically said it was the Pats decision to let go Dillon and not the other way around. The actual transcript may even be on this thread a few pages back.

 

[Boston]

Looks like Chris Henry was in for a visit. I hope the Pats add a RB at some point during the draft. I'd like to see a little more depth.

April 19, 2007

Henry talks Pats

University of Arizona running back Chris Henry touched on his Wednesday pre-draft visit with the New England Patriots on yardbarker.com.

Henry wrote: "There is definitely a buzz in New England. The people and fans are just really proud and passionate about their team. I'm sure every city has passionate fans, but with all the Super Bowls in the last five or six years, there is just an added sense of pride in New England. That visit was a little more personal."

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/reiss_pieces/

 

[Boston]

Here's the part about Pioli talking about Dillon:

Did the Corey Dillon situation catch you guys by surprise?

“What situation?”

The request to be released.

“Again, urban legend. I think sometimes what happens, I would say this –- I would debate whether Corey or Corey’s representation asked for a release, because Corey certainly did not. Again, we released Corey, and that’s all there is. Sometimes how things get twisted and explained in different ways. We had a good, long conversation with those folks and that’s a decision we made.”

Why did you release him?

“I think it was time for both sides to move in different directions. We loved Corey. Corey Dillon helped get us a championship, he had the single-season rushing record, and he was a huge part of us winning the Super Bowl championship. We just felt, for a number of reasons, after a good lengthy discussion, it was in the best interest of both sides to move in different directions.”

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patr...7/03/index.html

 

[nerangers]

Thought I would just post the link to the whole article: Patriots in the pipeline?

Patriots | Wendling a draft possibility

Mike Reiss, of the Boston Globe, reports the New England Patriots may look at drafting University of Wyoming S John Wendling in the 2007 NFL Draft because he fits the team's profile of what they want in a player.

Patriots | J. Wilson a draft possibility

Mike Reiss, of the Boston Globe, reports the New England Patriots may look at drafting University of Maryland CB Josh Wilson in the 2007 NFL Draft because he fits the team's profile of what they want in a player.

Patriots | Hughes a draft possibility

Mike Reiss, of the Boston Globe, reports the New England Patriots may look at drafting University of California CB Daymeion Hughes in the 2007 NFL Draft because he fits the team's profile of what they want in a player.

Patriots | Robison a draft possibility

Mike Reiss, of the Boston Globe, reports the New England Patriots may look at drafting University of Texas DE Brian Robison in the 2007 NFL Draft because he fits the team's profile of what they want in a player.

Patriots | Harris a draft possibility

Mike Reiss, of the Boston Globe, reports the New England Patriots may look at drafting University of Michigan LB David Harris in the 2007 NFL Draft because he fits the team's profile of what they want in a player.

Patriots | Beason a draft possibility

Mike Reiss, of the Boston Globe, reports the New England Patriots may look at drafting University of Miami (Fla.) LB Jon Beason in the 2007 NFL Draft because he fits the team's profile of what they want in a player.

Patriots | Toeaina a draft possibility

Mike Reiss, of the Boston Globe, reports the New England Patriots may look at drafting University of Oregon DL Matt Toeaina in the 2007 NFL Draft because he fits the team's profile of what they want in a player.

Patriots | Denman a draft possibility

Mike Reiss, of the Boston Globe, reports the New England Patriots may look at drafting Fresno State OT Chris Denman in the 2007 NFL Draft because he fits the team's profile of what they want in a player.

Patriots | Coats a draft possibility

Mike Reiss, of the Boston Globe, reports the New England Patriots may look at drafting Brigham Young TE Daniel Coats in the 2007 NFL Draft because he fits the team's profile of what they want in a player.

Patriots | C. Davis a draft possibility

Mike Reiss, of the Boston Globe, reports the New England Patriots may look at drafting Florida State WR Chris Davis in the 2007 NFL Draft because he fits the team's profile of what they want in a player.

Patriots | Gonzalez a draft possibility

Mike Reiss, of the Boston Globe, reports the New England Patriots may look at drafting Ohio State WR Anthony Gonzalez in the 2007 NFL Draft because he fits the team's profile of what they want in a player.

Patriots | Booker a draft possibility

Mike Reiss, of the Boston Globe, reports the New England Patriots may look at drafting Florida State RB Lorenzo Booker in the 2007 NFL Draft because he fits the team's profile of what they want in a player.

Patriots | Gutierrez a draft possibility

Mike Reiss, of the Boston Globe, reports the New England Patriots may look at drafting Idaho State QB Matt Gutierrez in the 2007 NFL Draft because he fits the team's profile of what they want in a player.

Patriots | Palko a late round possibility

Karen Guregian, of the Boston Herald, reports the New England Patriots may look at drafting University of Pittsburgh QB Tyler Palko in the later rounds of the 2007 NFL Draft.

Patriots | Tate a late round possibility

Karen Guregian, of the Boston Herald, reports the New England Patriots may look at drafting University of Iowa QB Drew Tate in the later rounds of the 2007 NFL Draft.

 

[Boston]

Anyone else hearing any rumors (not that it really matters when it comes to the Pats)? I've read in a few places that they have put some extra time looking at LB Stewart Bradley of Nebraska and RB Chris Henry of Arizona. Reading Bradley's write-up in Pro Football Weekly's draft magazine shows a lot of attributes the Pats look for:

Size: 6'3 5/8 256 LBs

Strong at point of attack

Good Motor

Nice instincts

Can matchup with TEs and RBs downfield

Smart

Plays with passion

Played some DE in college

He could be a guy they look at if they deal up or down into the second round.

 

[AB in DC]

Anyone else hearing any rumors (not that it really matters when it comes to the Pats)?

PFT says ILB David Harris to Pats at #28.

 

[Bri]

Patriots | Coats a draft possibilityMike Reiss, of the Boston Globe, reports the New England Patriots may look at drafting Brigham Young TE Daniel Coats in the 2007 NFL Draft because he fits the team's profile of what they want in a player.

yeah right like the Pats would ever draft a TE with the last name Coates

 

[Boston]

Anyone else hearing any rumors (not that it really matters when it comes to the Pats)?

PFT says ILB David Harris to Pats at #28.

Harris is defrinetly a name linked to the Pats. I've seen quite a few mocks where he's projected in that slot.

 

[PMENFAN]

Here's the part about Pioli talking about Dillon:

Did the Corey Dillon situation catch you guys by surprise?

“What situation?”

The request to be released.

“Again, urban legend. I think sometimes what happens, I would say this –- I would debate whether Corey or Corey’s representation asked for a release, because Corey certainly did not. Again, we released Corey, and that’s all there is. Sometimes how things get twisted and explained in different ways. We had a good, long conversation with those folks and that’s a decision we made.”

Why did you release him?

“I think it was time for both sides to move in different directions. We loved Corey. Corey Dillon helped get us a championship, he had the single-season rushing record, and he was a huge part of us winning the Super Bowl championship. We just felt, for a number of reasons, after a good lengthy discussion, it was in the best interest of both sides to move in different directions.”

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patr...7/03/index.html

Thanks. I missed that. It just surprised me to see tham take the cap hit. But, if they say he's done, I agree.

 

[Boston]

Thought this might be of interest as draft day approaches. By the way...has anyone else noticed that Mike Reiss has really risen his game since Borges got caught cheating. I'd love to see him take over the numero uno role for the Globe as he is far more informative and less biased than Borges (who I can't stand if you haven't noticed).

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/reiss_pieces/

April 24, 2007

Scout's time

With the NFL draft set for April 28-29, this is the time of year when all the hard work by scouts comes to the forefront.

A snapshot look at the Patriots' scouts (information from team's media guide), all of whom report to vice president of player personnel Scott Pioli:

Marvin Allen, area scout -- A native of Wichita Falls, Texas, he just concluded his 14th season with the Patriots, and 10th in the player personnel department. Allen was originally drafted by the Patriots in the 11th round of the 1988 draft after playing running back at Tulane.

Larry Cook, scouting consultant -- Originally joined the Patriots' scouting department Feb. 1, 1985 as a personnel scout on **** Steinberg's staff. Has been with the organization since, and has spent 44 years in football.

Thomas Dimitroff, director of college scouting -- Joined the Patriots in 2002 as a national scout before earning a bump up to director. Just concluded his 17th season in player personnel and is a promising future candidate to become a vice president of player personnel in the NFL.

Brian Flores, pro scout -- Former Boston College linebacker joined the Patriots (2004) upon his graduation and was a scouting assistant before moving to the pro side.

Tim Heffelfinger, area scout -- Former Northwestern defensive tackle just concluded his ninth season as a scout and second season with the Patriots.

Frantzy Jourdain, area scout -- Former University of Rhode Island running back (1993-97) has spent the last four years with the Patriots' personnel department and second year as an area scout.

Bucko Kilroy, scouting consultant -- The 2006 season marked Kilroy's 64th in the NFL, and he has been a part of all five Patriots Super Bowl teams. He was originally hired by the Patriots in 1971 as player personnel director.

Nancy Meier, director of scouting administration -- Having concluded her 32nd season with the Patriots, Meier is the longest tenured full-time employee on staff.

Jay Muraco, college scouting coordinator -- A Kent State graduate, he has worked the last 11 seasons in the NFL and the last seven with the Patriots. Volunteered to work with the Browns personnel department from 1992-95 when Bill Belichick was coach.

Jim Nagy, area scout -- A sports management major at the University of Michigan, he concluded his fifth season with the Patriots this year. Initially spent three years (1998-2001) as the director of NFL scouting for War Room Scouting Inc.

Kyle O'Brien, area scout -- Harvard and Phillips Andover Academy graduate, he joined the Patriots full-time in 2002 as a scouting assistant. His first job with the team came as a player personnel intern in 2000.

Monti Ossenfort, area scout -- A four-year letterman and two-year starter at quarterback for the University of Minnesota, he has five years of NFL scouting experience, the last two coming with the Patriots.

Adam Peters, area scout -- A native of Cupertino, Calif., he has worked for the Patriots the last four seasons. Before joining the Patriots, he served as a football operations graduate assisant at UCLA, where he played defensive end from 1999-2001.

Bob Quinn, regional scout -- A native of Norwood, Mass., he concluded his seventh season in the Patriots' personnel department and third season as a regional scout. Completed his undergraduate and post-graduate studies at UConn.

Jonathan Robinson, regional scout -- Joined the Patriots in 2002 as an area scout after three seasons coaching at Nicholls (La.) State. A native of Union City, Tenn., he played three seasons for Southeast Missouri State as a defensive lineman.

Brian Smith, special assignments -- A native of Marathon, Fla., he joined the Patriots in 2000 and has served a variety of roles. Played football at Davidson (N.C.) College and graduated from Providence College. Last year marked his first season handling special assignments.

Scouting assistants DuJuan Daniels and Tim Pichette also are part of the Patriots' scouting team. Frank Leonard was a special assignment scout who left the team in January to join the Kansas State football staff as an assistant.