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A lot of people who own homes in the West Village aren't home very much.  They have homes in other cities, beach houses, etc. which makes building up a regular clientele at a restaurant difficult. My boss lives in that hood and he is out of town half the year and every weekend in summer. Those that are there all the time are commuting to other neighborhoods during the day, so bye bye lunch crowd. It is also a tough neighborhood for tourists to navigate. Couple all of that with high rents and restaurants are going to struggle.  
considering how busy the spots are in the EVil... I thought the WVil was similar with people coming from all the other neighborhoods for food/drink.

eta: didn't figure the loss of the weekend/summer locals would affect them as badly.

 
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oh- love that. it's like Angels' Share (my old go-to date spot), except replacing the shabu-shabu joint with 5 guys.
Yeah, Angel's Share was cool.  Asian dudes whacking ice up and making cool drinks before pretty much everyone else.  And more fun than Milk and Honey.  

 
Yeah, Angel's Share was cool.  Asian dudes whacking ice up and making cool drinks before pretty much everyone else.  And more fun than Milk and Honey.  
####### loved that spot. everything about it was cool- even their crazy rules about noise or whatever. couldn't sit more than 2 friends together. had to be hushed. no groups larger than 4. etc, etc. but dammit, those little japanese dudes behind the bar- from their full-on dapper outfits (vests, ties, whatever the arm garter is called) to the way they'd make the cocktails- like watching a japanese tea-ceremony for every cocktail... loved it.

 
It's teeny, 15 people in there looks good.  But they'll shove 80 in there.  

You have to go into the 5 Guys to enter it, walk right up to the counter, then bang a left, and go upstairs.  Typical NYC weird spot.  
Tried going to that place maybe a year or so ago. Buddy lives nearby, had been there a few times, and we were both solo without our wives. Got in line which consisted of literally 6 pairs of white couples. Turned around and left.

 
Maybe the West Village is aging, and the neighborhood people don't go out  :shrug:   I mean, how many single people that go out on the regular can afford a West Village place?  Lot of people that used to go out live in that area.

You will see people in the dive bars there, but no place is crushing it. 
It really depends on the bar or restaurant.  I'm friends with the owners of Employees Only and Little Owl and they're still doing well, going on 10+ years in the hood.  Employees Only always has a strong crowd no matter the night. 

 
Yeah, Angel's Share was cool.  Asian dudes whacking ice up and making cool drinks before pretty much everyone else.  And more fun than Milk and Honey.  
Big fan of both spots.  Sad to see Milk & Honey close as it really was the first spot to elevate the cocktail game and start the trend of all these high end cocktail bars.  RIP Sasha.  You should try Little Branch in the west village.  Same concept as Milk & Honey (same owners) but with a much more lively ambience.  

 
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Anyone used a roofer you trust? I've gotten a couple estimates from highly rated outfits, but the estimates are wildly different.

 
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Anyone used a roofer you trust? I've gotten a couple estimates from highly rated outfits, but the estimates are wildly different.
uhhhh... nyc thread. you responsible for putting a new roof on your apartment building?

maybe nick knows? I should, but only work on the inside, not outside of the buildings.

 
uhhhh... nyc thread. you responsible for putting a new roof on your apartment building?

maybe nick knows? I should, but only work on the inside, not outside of the buildings.
I do know a guy.  He'll roof your house and bury a body for you.  Warranty is verbal.  

 
considering how busy the spots are in the EVil... I thought the WVil was similar with people coming from all the other neighborhoods for food/drink.

eta: didn't figure the loss of the weekend/summer locals would affect them as badly.
I lived on 7th Ave S and Bedford (street down from Bleeker) from 2001-8 and even by 2008 the nexus of the neighborhood had been shifting from 7th Ave/Greenwich nexus, so I'm not shocked (shockingly Sushi Samba was hot when it opened in 2002 or whatever year it was) by that article.  I also think Bleeker itself has gotten hit a lot by the HighLine-Whitney-Meatpacking-Chelsea Market development.  For the tourist those all have the same "charm" (or what they think of as Manhattan) in one easy to do day.  I know when we go downtown that's the area we hit and I doubt we are that different.  

I'd also say when I lived there, I could count the number of times I shopped or went to a restaurant/bar on the west side of 7th Ave especially after Chumley's burned.  East side sure (Blind Tiger/Murray/Lobster Place before it closed/Johns, etc.), but even in 2001-2 we'd hardly ever go west and were much more likely to go to the places on Carmine/Downing/Bedford (Daddy Os).

In any case, what's happening there is the same thing that's happening on the UWS on an even worse scale.  At least down there the spaces are small.  Up by me there's quite of few large spaces that have been shut for 2-3 years at this point especially since Duane Reade has pulled back on so many locations.  On the UWS it's more a question of finding big box retailers and that just isn't happening these days.  

 
went to playland (rye) yesterday for floppinho's 10th bday part. 

I've only been to the place 3 times- but I've been surprised how few people are there each time. nothing more than 10min wait, and the place is cheap in terms of entry and rides (and also easy to get to by public transport). we'd been going to victorian gardens the last few years, but he decided against this year: he's outgrown the rides, his bday party is always on puerto rico day (which makes going to central park brutal), and the wife wanted nothing to do with supporting a trump branded enterprise. playland was perfect for a bunch of 10yos. and I got to tan fry my face in the scalding temps yesterday.

 
went to playland (rye) yesterday for floppinho's 10th bday part. 

I've only been to the place 3 times- but I've been surprised how few people are there each time. nothing more than 10min wait, and the place is cheap in terms of entry and rides (and also easy to get to by public transport). we'd been going to victorian gardens the last few years, but he decided against this year: he's outgrown the rides, his bday party is always on puerto rico day (which makes going to central park brutal), and the wife wanted nothing to do with supporting a trump branded enterprise. playland was perfect for a bunch of 10yos. and I got to tan fry my face in the scalding temps yesterday.
Did your kids use the Zoltar machine?

 
Did your kids use the Zoltar machine?
I put a buck in that ####### thing and got bupkis, other than the head talking some smack. no freaking fortune card. certainly wasn't going to keep pumping it with money.

eta: and I was actually excited to get each of the kids a fortune to take home with them... thought it would be a fun keepsake of the day, besides slurpee stained clothes and sunburned foreheads.

 
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I put a buck in that ####### thing and got bupkis, other than the head talking some smack. no freaking fortune card. certainly wasn't going to keep pumping it with money.

eta: and I was actually excited to get each of the kids a fortune to take home with them... thought it would be a fun keepsake of the day, besides slurpee stained clothes and sunburned foreheads.
It can take a couple of days to take effect, although if it didn't give a card you guys should be safe.  Keep an eye on everyone for now, though.

 
Thinking about getting sushi for dinner tonight, but it's so hot out that by the time I get home with it, it probably won't be sushi anymore

 
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How's the seared tuna?
It wasn't bad. 

I complain a lot about the heat.  I really hate it.  If I had to choose between the extremes - 25 degrees in the winter or 95 degrees in the summer, I will always take the winter.  What's strange about that is that I love the Caribbean, where it's always hot.  That said, I love Vermont too.

 
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It wasn't bad. 

I complain a lot about the heat.  I really hate it.  If I had to choose between the extremes - 25 degrees in the winter or 95 degrees in the summer, I will always take the winter.  What's strange about that is that I love the Caribbean, where it's always hot.  That said, I love Vermont too.
I'll take the heat - hate super cold. Then again, I'm typing this from Texas, so....

(where they know how to deal with heat mind you. At a bar a few blocks from my apt with a full in backyard picnic tables real freakin grass lawns, adirondack chairs (which have apparently moved beyond the adirondacks to like, everywhere).

Was nice today, prob 91-92 not very humid - but in a couple weeks prob 95 plus everyday. But once that sun goes down... 

I sleep. Or maybe watch an episode of the Americans or Top Chef, then sleep)

 
Left Midtown-Hell's Kitchen for Williamsburg (Graham Ave) a few weeks ago. Trees and a private backyard are cathartic. Have already hosted a couple BBQs, summer '17 is gonna be sweet!  :excited:

Commute went from a 12 minute walk to two seats, which has ranged from 26 minute - perfectly timed L & F arrival, will never happen again - to 38 minutes, average is around 34. Wanna guess my profession?  :lmao:  Citibike in front of my building & the subway helps. Literally no Citibikes further east, I think I've found the edge of western civ.

@El Floppo - commuted by bike like my third day here. 41 minutes. Never doing that again, Williamsburg Bridge is a serious climb. Was actually praying "Lord, I'm totally ready. Go ahead, I've lived a good life." Can't believe people do that errryday.

Surprisingly, I love this part of Brooklyn. I lived in Boerum Hill 1999-2008, which obviously is a different kind of vibe. I started spending weekends here a few months back and was kind of shocked to realize how much green space is around me. McCarren is 5 minutes away but there's other smaller parks as well.

Shopping & restaurants - plenty within walking distance for weekly needs, but def looking forward to my Model 3 reservation. Still a lot of gentrification tension around here.

Obviously the looming L train shutdown makes this seem less attractive but daily trips to Manhattan will cease before 2019. I have equity in three companies but my intention is to cut way back as I transition to the non-profit sector.   My partners are on the board of my 501(c)3 and they've been fantastic in supporting my dream.

Negotiated a 20% raise in compensation, lowered my living expenses 30%, and jamming as much as I can into my daughter's 529 (you can carry over the tax deduction 5 years forward.) I'll spend the last third of my life, God willing, trying to ameliorate conditions for the homeless.

Been an amazing year so far, and the best is yet to come.

 
Left Midtown-Hell's Kitchen for Williamsburg (Graham Ave) a few weeks ago. Trees and a private backyard are cathartic. Have already hosted a couple BBQs, summer '17 is gonna be sweet!  :excited:

Commute went from a 12 minute walk to two seats, which has ranged from 26 minute - perfectly timed L & F arrival, will never happen again - to 38 minutes, average is around 34. Wanna guess my profession?  :lmao:  Citibike in front of my building & the subway helps. Literally no Citibikes further east, I think I've found the edge of western civ.

@El Floppo - commuted by bike like my third day here. 41 minutes. Never doing that again, Williamsburg Bridge is a serious climb. Was actually praying "Lord, I'm totally ready. Go ahead, I've lived a good life." Can't believe people do that errryday.

Surprisingly, I love this part of Brooklyn. I lived in Boerum Hill 1999-2008, which obviously is a different kind of vibe. I started spending weekends here a few months back and was kind of shocked to realize how much green space is around me. McCarren is 5 minutes away but there's other smaller parks as well.

Shopping & restaurants - plenty within walking distance for weekly needs, but def looking forward to my Model 3 reservation. Still a lot of gentrification tension around here.

Obviously the looming L train shutdown makes this seem less attractive but daily trips to Manhattan will cease before 2019. I have equity in three companies but my intention is to cut way back as I transition to the non-profit sector.   My partners are on the board of my 501(c)3 and they've been fantastic in supporting my dream.

Negotiated a 20% raise in compensation, lowered my living expenses 30%, and jamming as much as I can into my daughter's 529 (you can carry over the tax deduction 5 years forward.) I'll spend the last third of my life, God willing, trying to ameliorate conditions for the homeless.

Been an amazing year so far, and the best is yet to come.
Lets us know the details of your non-profit as I at least missed it.  Also imagine folks on this board would be willing to help support an organization that does good work and run by faithful poster.  .  

 
Left Midtown-Hell's Kitchen for Williamsburg (Graham Ave) a few weeks ago. Trees and a private backyard are cathartic. Have already hosted a couple BBQs, summer '17 is gonna be sweet!  :excited:

Commute went from a 12 minute walk to two seats, which has ranged from 26 minute - perfectly timed L & F arrival, will never happen again - to 38 minutes, average is around 34. Wanna guess my profession?  :lmao:  Citibike in front of my building & the subway helps. Literally no Citibikes further east, I think I've found the edge of western civ.

@El Floppo - commuted by bike like my third day here. 41 minutes. Never doing that again, Williamsburg Bridge is a serious climb. Was actually praying "Lord, I'm totally ready. Go ahead, I've lived a good life." Can't believe people do that errryday.

Surprisingly, I love this part of Brooklyn. I lived in Boerum Hill 1999-2008, which obviously is a different kind of vibe. I started spending weekends here a few months back and was kind of shocked to realize how much green space is around me. McCarren is 5 minutes away but there's other smaller parks as well.

Shopping & restaurants - plenty within walking distance for weekly needs, but def looking forward to my Model 3 reservation. Still a lot of gentrification tension around here.

Obviously the looming L train shutdown makes this seem less attractive but daily trips to Manhattan will cease before 2019. I have equity in three companies but my intention is to cut way back as I transition to the non-profit sector.   My partners are on the board of my 501(c)3 and they've been fantastic in supporting my dream.

Negotiated a 20% raise in compensation, lowered my living expenses 30%, and jamming as much as I can into my daughter's 529 (you can carry over the tax deduction 5 years forward.) I'll spend the last third of my life, God willing, trying to ameliorate conditions for the homeless.

Been an amazing year so far, and the best is yet to come.
dude!

that's a lot of big news- congrats on the move and the job transition... amazing stuff on all counts. your office still in the same spot for now? need to get lunch soon so I can hear the details. lots of questions... like daughter still at ps3?

I don't know anything about that part of williamsburgh on the other side of the bqe. but considering the construction I've watched go up over the last 15 years over there, and the huge emigration to those parts, I'm not surprised its nice. you in a rowhouse or one of those new buildings? looking forward to hearing more. my pulminoligist (ACA) is on flushing... south of you.... but not quite the same vibe I'm guessing.

re: citibike. c'mon, man! wburgh bridge is a decent hill (the only near me, so I used to use it for hill training for running when I did such things)... but it's not that bad. throw it into the granny gear and get yourself going. but i kinda kid... the citibike hits diminishing returns for convenience past 30 minutes, IMO. after that, it's usually quicker and easier to use the subway... unless you're looking to completely avoid like I am most of the time. I've got a project at 56 Leonard- the lego-ey building downtown and while citibiking there is possible, it ends up being really quick by train so I go that route, instead of showing up there a dripping mess. I still citibike to my projects on the upper east... unless I'm meeting with clients.

 
My wife's family is coming to town from Florida in the summer and we are tasked with organizing a large group dinner for the folks coming to town and for her family that lives in the burbs.  Unfortunately family is suggesting somewhere in mid-town/time square area where folks will be staying.  About 20 or so people and I also know I will get objection on pricing so looking to keep reasonable.  I really don't have any ideas given these limitations so was hoping for some ideas from the group.  

 
My wife's family is coming to town from Florida in the summer and we are tasked with organizing a large group dinner for the folks coming to town and for her family that lives in the burbs.  Unfortunately family is suggesting somewhere in mid-town/time square area where folks will be staying.  About 20 or so people and I also know I will get objection on pricing so looking to keep reasonable.  I really don't have any ideas given these limitations so was hoping for some ideas from the group.  
I shudder to say my least favorite bag of mush and garlic... but... holy hell- I've forgotten the name of the mush/garlic pasta place that's good for big groups. florida people aren't going to know any better, and some people here claim to like it. 

 
I shudder to say my least favorite bag of mush and garlic... but... holy hell- I've forgotten the name of the mush/garlic pasta place that's good for big groups. florida people aren't going to know any better, and some people here claim to like it. 
I am guessing you are thinking of Carmine's which I would like to avoid as your description is perfect.  

 
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I am guessing you are thinking of Carmine's which I would like to avoid as your description is perfect.  
what, you don't like mush and garlic? 

####### pasta snobs are the worst.

eta: yeah- carmines. ugh. but good for big groups... and florida.

 
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My wife's family is coming to town from Florida in the summer and we are tasked with organizing a large group dinner for the folks coming to town and for her family that lives in the burbs.  Unfortunately family is suggesting somewhere in mid-town/time square area where folks will be staying.  About 20 or so people and I also know I will get objection on pricing so looking to keep reasonable.  I really don't have any ideas given these limitations so was hoping for some ideas from the group.  
Churrascaria Plataforma is great for large groups.  Brazilian steakhouse with excellent food and in the Times Square area. http://plataformaonline.com/

 
Churrascaria Plataforma is great for large groups.  Brazilian steakhouse with excellent food and in the Times Square area. http://plataformaonline.com/
this may have been what I was trying to remember.

how is this, price-wise? feel like when I've gone to brazilian steakhouses, it ends up being a dinger... but it's been since I gave up red meat and had kids- so more than 10 years ago. back when this kind of thing was accompanied by lots of smoke and drink- which inevitably runs up the tab.

 
this may have been what I was trying to remember.

how is this, price-wise? feel like when I've gone to brazilian steakhouses, it ends up being a dinger... but it's been since I gave up red meat and had kids- so more than 10 years ago. back when this kind of thing was accompanied by lots of smoke and drink- which inevitably runs up the tab.
yeah, that is probably the issue with that place.  I am probably willing to subsidize the tab a bit.  Still working on trying to get out of mid-town for this thing. 

 
this may have been what I was trying to remember.

how is this, price-wise? feel like when I've gone to brazilian steakhouses, it ends up being a dinger... but it's been since I gave up red meat and had kids- so more than 10 years ago. back when this kind of thing was accompanied by lots of smoke and drink- which inevitably runs up the tab.
It's price fix for $65 per person which isn't bad for NYC.  Not cheap, but you can probably spend a similar amount at Carmines and other places that aren't as good or as fun.  Price fix doesn't include dessert or drinks.

 
it's also not cheap, but an old standby of mine for bigger groups... ruby-fu's. also used to know the owner, so could get tables without a problem.

 
Another way to think about it - how often are you all going to get together like this?  It sounds like a fairly one time thing so maybe it's worth it to spend the money on an experience like that.  For NYC it's really not that expensive.  Of course you can find cheaper, but IMO this place is worth it for large groups.

 
Another way to think about it - how often are you all going to get together like this?  It sounds like a fairly one time thing so maybe it's worth it to spend the money on an experience like that.  For NYC it's really not that expensive.  Of course you can find cheaper, but IMO this place is worth it for large groups.
Agree with your thinking and doesn't look too bad on price (I can subsidize it a bit as well).  This trip has been a long time in the works with my wife planing it for what seems like years (including buying tickets through the box office to Hamilton about a year ago for this trip).   

 
Tony's Di Napoli is the same style as Carmine's but significantly better food. I've only been to the UES ones but they have a location on 43rd between 6th and Broadway. 

www.tonysnyc.com 

 
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Has anyone been to Patrizia's? There are a couple in Brooklyn and looks like one in Manhattan, Staten Island, Jersey and LI.

I just heard that one is opening right near me. Very psyched if true because that part of the neighborhood (Grand Ave) could use a boost. Mostly just 99 cent stores, nail salons and banks opening recently. Quite a few shuttered storefronts. Sounds like it would be a great addition to the neighborhood and hopefully the start of good things to come.

 

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