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NFC Championship GB@Seattle (1 Viewer)

Longtucky Lemmings said:
seahawk 17 said:
Hell of a game.
This. I'm a Packers fan and was crushed by the result. But the truth is we got to see one of the most epic games of our lifetime. This one will likely be talked about for a long time....especially if Seattle wins the Super Bowl
I feel bad for Packer fans, that was as tuff a loss as you will ever see; I still can't believe the Packers lost that game after dominating it for 55 minutes.
not sure I would say they dominated for 55 minutes. Packers did very little offensively after the first quarter - 120 or so yards in the 1st, 170 or so yards the remaining 3 quarters with 50 coming in the last minute drive for a FG. Seahawks D really clamped down after the 1st quarter. The Packers pass D was dominant in the 1st half but even with that Seahawks out-gained the Packers in every quarter but the 1st.
16-0 at the half...no defensive points really given up til how much time left?

They dominated until the last 5 minutes.
well whatever, pretty sure I won't convince you of anything. Packers played great and probably deserved to go to the SuperBowl but if they had dominated for 55 minutes it would have been more than 19-7 with 5 minutes left after starting 16-0 in the 1st quarter. The Seahawks didn't just magically appear at the 20 yard line for the fake field goal and the GB offense didn't just punt the ball to be nice.

 
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I still don't understand the "live ball" penalty that was not tacked on. If a defender roughs the QB, its a "live play" if the play is still going on, and they always add on 15 yards.

 
Longtucky Lemmings said:
seahawk 17 said:
Hell of a game.
This. I'm a Packers fan and was crushed by the result. But the truth is we got to see one of the most epic games of our lifetime. This one will likely be talked about for a long time....especially if Seattle wins the Super Bowl
I feel bad for Packer fans, that was as tuff a loss as you will ever see; I still can't believe the Packers lost that game after dominating it for 55 minutes.
not sure I would say they dominated for 55 minutes. Packers did very little offensively after the first quarter - 120 or so yards in the 1st, 170 or so yards the remaining 3 quarters with 50 coming in the last minute drive for a FG. Seahawks D really clamped down after the 1st quarter. The Packers pass D was dominant in the 1st half but even with that Seahawks out-gained the Packers in every quarter but the 1st.
16-0 at the half...no defensive points really given up til how much time left?

They dominated until the last 5 minutes.
:shrug:

Scoreboard.

 
I'm still crushed. It took every lucky bounce for Seattle to pull that off, and Wilson is born with an abundance of luck apparently. Besides the Bostick play, the big one I hated was that third and forever that Capers decided to only rush 2 or 3 then play zone?! That and the no safety coverage on the last play of the game. Make them earn it. Plenty of blame to go around on that team and coaches. ST coach Slocum needs to go.

 
GB and their fans have nothing to hang their heads about. There is no "weaker" or less/more deserving team. It came down to a couple of bounces that happened to go the Seahawks way. It could easily be the Seahawks sitting home and GB going to AZ.

I feel the fans frustration but the hateful fans piling on them are classless IMO.

 
It sounds very simplistic but the Pack lost it on the scoreboard...they totally outplayed Seattle in the first half but only led 16-0...the score needed to be more than that...especially on the road against a quality opponent...by not capitalizing more on their great play and the Seahawk mistakes they kept Seattle in the game...turn two of those FGs in the first-half into TDs and there's no way Seattle comes back...

 
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Anyone else getting sick of all the GB players whining in their interviews? "We kicked their ### up and down the field, we shouldn't have lost". "we played better", "we're the better team", etc.

Yeah it was a tough loss, but quit whining.

 
Anyone else getting sick of all the GB players whining in their interviews? "We kicked their ### up and down the field, we shouldn't have lost". "we played better", "we're the better team", etc.

Yeah it was a tough loss, but quit whining.
They did kick their ### up and down the field for 90% of the game...just didn't close it out when it mattered.

I think yesterday for most of the game they were the better team.

I don't think what they are doing is whining...but what you are doing is definitely whining.

 
Anyone else getting sick of all the GB players whining in their interviews? "We kicked their ### up and down the field, we shouldn't have lost". "we played better", "we're the better team", etc.

Yeah it was a tough loss, but quit whining.
They did kick their ### up and down the field for 90% of the game...just didn't close it out when it mattered.

I think yesterday for most of the game they were the better team.

I don't think what they are doing is whining...but what you are doing is definitely whining.
Not really. First quarter, yes. GB struggled to move the ball, especially in the 2nd half when they needed it most.

 
Anyone else getting sick of all the GB players whining in their interviews? "We kicked their ### up and down the field, we shouldn't have lost". "we played better", "we're the better team", etc.

Yeah it was a tough loss, but quit whining.
They did kick their ### up and down the field for 90% of the game...just didn't close it out when it mattered.

I think yesterday for most of the game they were the better team.

I don't think what they are doing is whining...but what you are doing is definitely whining.
:goodposting:

Guy is whining about others whining.

 
Anyone else getting sick of all the GB players whining in their interviews? "We kicked their ### up and down the field, we shouldn't have lost". "we played better", "we're the better team", etc.

Yeah it was a tough loss, but quit whining.
They did kick their ### up and down the field for 90% of the game...just didn't close it out when it mattered.

I think yesterday for most of the game they were the better team.

I don't think what they are doing is whining...but what you are doing is definitely whining.
Not really. First quarter, yes. GB struggled to move the ball, especially in the 2nd half when they needed it most.
16-0 at half...what was Wilson's rating?

They didn't score an offensive TD until 4 minutes left in the game.

GB moved the ball pretty well...yes, 2nd half...that D stiffened up and took a lot away. No doubt about it.

 
Anyone else getting sick of all the GB players whining in their interviews? "We kicked their ### up and down the field, we shouldn't have lost". "we played better", "we're the better team", etc.

Yeah it was a tough loss, but quit whining.
They did kick their ### up and down the field for 90% of the game...just didn't close it out when it mattered.

I think yesterday for most of the game they were the better team.

I don't think what they are doing is whining...but what you are doing is definitely whining.
:goodposting:

Guy is whining about others whining.
And now you guys are whining about me whining about others whining, but now I'm whining about you whining about me whining about others whining.

 
Anyone else getting sick of all the GB players whining in their interviews? "We kicked their ### up and down the field, we shouldn't have lost". "we played better", "we're the better team", etc.

Yeah it was a tough loss, but quit whining.
They did kick their ### up and down the field for 90% of the game...just didn't close it out when it mattered.

I think yesterday for most of the game they were the better team.

I don't think what they are doing is whining...but what you are doing is definitely whining.
Not really. First quarter, yes. GB struggled to move the ball, especially in the 2nd half when they needed it most.
16-0 at half...what was Wilson's rating?

They didn't score an offensive TD until 4 minutes left in the game.

GB moved the ball pretty well...yes, 2nd half...that D stiffened up and took a lot away. No doubt about it.
They had the lead, yes. Yes, Seattle also struggled to move the ball. Outside of the first quarter GB gained 169 yards total, with drives ending in FG, INT, punt, punt, punt, FG, punt, punt, FG. Lacy's and Rodgers average yards per play plummeted. In that same time period, Seattle gained 374 yards, and scored three TDs. Take away overtime, and the Seahawks still outscored and outgained GB, despite turning the ball over 2 more times than GB.

So, yeah GB totally beat up on Seattle for one quarter of football, and held on to their lead via takeaways for the large majority of the game. But, saying that GB kicked Seattle's butt up and down the field is a complete fabrication.

It was a great try by GB, but unfortunately for Packers' fans they couldn't hold on. Awesome game, one of the best I have ever seen, fortunately I was in the stadium yesterday. Look forward to the day GB and Seattle meet again.

 
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Can't imagine what that game did to Packer fans yesterday.

All I can say is this is the last season the Seahawks get Wilson for peanuts, and Eddie Lacy is going to be something special, so the future isn't looking so bad for you guys :thumbup:

 
Can't imagine what that game did to Packer fans yesterday.

All I can say is this is the last season the Seahawks get Wilson for peanuts, and Eddie Lacy is going to be something special, so the future isn't looking so bad for you guys
Hawks have the money to lock up Wilson long term, as well as the other big FA this coming offseason (Wagner). Everyone else is already under contract for the most part. We will most likely lose Maxwell this offseason, but I trust Seattle to find a suitable replacement for him.

On a related note, I really hope Dan Quinn doesn't take Kris Richard with him to ATL.

 
I dont know about other Packers fans but personally I am actually not upset or anything about the game yesterday. I look at it as no one gave them a chance to win, they proved they had the ability with the NFL MVP somewhat hobbled to win that game, they blew their chance by having multiple issues to allow Seattle to comeback.
This.

Sure, I'm disappointed that they blew their chances to put the game away.

But today is still a good day.

Of course, that might be the oxycodone and valium talking. :)

 
Believe it or not though, things actually got worse after that. Seattle's chances of winning fell to .10 percent at the 3:07 mark after Wilson threw an incomplete pass to Jermaine Kearse.

At that point, the Seahawks were trailing 19-7 and were facing a second-and-10 from Green Bay's 35-yard line. If Packers fans were confident, it's because there win probability was literally 99.9 percent. [CBSports.com]

 
Anyone else getting sick of all the GB players whining in their interviews? "We kicked their ### up and down the field, we shouldn't have lost". "we played better", "we're the better team", etc.

Yeah it was a tough loss, but quit whining.
They did kick their ### up and down the field for 90% of the game...just didn't close it out when it mattered.

I think yesterday for most of the game they were the better team.

I don't think what they are doing is whining...but what you are doing is definitely whining.
Exactly it wasn't like it was a miracle the Packers were winning. I think the majority of players with 5 mins left figured they were playing in the Super Bowl in 2 weeks. They didn't finish so tough, but what are they going to say RIGHT AFTER THE F-ING GAME?!?!? Its not like the game was even remotely close the Seahawks looked like utter trash for 55 minutes.

Again I am actually in an okay place with the Packers loss yesterday I felt they had what it takes to win it just didn't come out in their favor, it happens and no one can talk trash about the Packers as a team.

If I were to ask you though, in order for your team to win you would have to do the following:

Give the ball away 5 times

Not score in the first half

Fake Field Goal on 4th and 7

Score 13+ points in the last 4 mins of the game with only 1 timeout

Onside kick recovery

2 Point Conversion

Then win in overtime

What do you think your chances of winning would be? 99.9% of the time the other team wins, Seahawks rose to the occasion and snatched the NFC Trophy from the Packers hands.

Now if the Packers players are still whining when they report for training camp or are at the Pro Bowl then you can complain, until then its a game and the Packers players are upset that a game they likely feel 100% they should have won slipped out of their hands.

 
There are about a half dozen Packers fans at work. What is the play tomorrow?
:shrug:

Show up at the usual time?
Not sure where he is going with this? Trying to make the Packers fans feel bad? Like I told someone today as long as I can point to those 13 championships (most in the NFL), no Bears Super Bowl win, and no team 3-peating as a Champion (Packers only team to do it and they did it twice) then I really can care less.

As much as I don't like it other teams will win the Super Bowl, just glad we ate a little more into the all-time wins number of the Bears.

 
Like I told someone today as long as I can point to those 13 championships (most in the NFL), no Bears Super Bowl win, and no team 3-peating as a Champion (Packers only team to do it and they did it twice) then I really can care less.
A quick look at Wikipedia shows 11 championships before we landed on the moon. Four of those before the end of WWII. Nice job.

 
Like I told someone today as long as I can point to those 13 championships (most in the NFL), no Bears Super Bowl win, and no team 3-peating as a Champion (Packers only team to do it and they did it twice) then I really can care less.
A quick look at Wikipedia shows 11 championships before we landed on the moon. Four of those before the end of WWII. Nice job.
All Championships are in the past by their very nature. Which astronaut were you?

 
Not sure where he is going with this? Trying to make the Packers fans feel bad? Like I told someone today as long as I can point to those 13 championships (most in the NFL), no Bears Super Bowl win, and no team 3-peating as a Champion (Packers only team to do it and they did it twice) then I really can care less.
Anything we can do to get you to where you couldn't care less?
 
Like I told someone today as long as I can point to those 13 championships (most in the NFL), no Bears Super Bowl win, and no team 3-peating as a Champion (Packers only team to do it and they did it twice) then I really can care less.
A quick look at Wikipedia shows 11 championships before we landed on the moon. Four of those before the end of WWII. Nice job.
All Championships are in the past by their very nature. Which astronaut were you?
I was the big one that didn't give a crap about games played in the 30's. Titletown probably needs an infrastructure makeover.

 
Can't imagine what that game did to Packer fans yesterday.

All I can say is this is the last season the Seahawks get Wilson for peanuts, and Eddie Lacy is going to be something special, so the future isn't looking so bad for you guys
Hawks have the money to lock up Wilson long term, as well as the other big FA this coming offseason (Wagner). Everyone else is already under contract for the most part. We will most likely lose Maxwell this offseason, but I trust Seattle to find a suitable replacement for him.

On a related note, I really hope Dan Quinn doesn't take Kris Richard with him to ATL.
I probably don't know the salary cap situation as well as you, and I know trading Harvin away helps, but I'm not sure it's possible to positively spin Wilson's $20+ million pay raise :shrug:

He deserves to be the highest paid player in the league, especially if he wins his 2nd ring.

 
Like I told someone today as long as I can point to those 13 championships (most in the NFL), no Bears Super Bowl win, and no team 3-peating as a Champion (Packers only team to do it and they did it twice) then I really can care less.
A quick look at Wikipedia shows 11 championships before we landed on the moon. Four of those before the end of WWII. Nice job.
All Championships are in the past by their very nature. Which astronaut were you?
I was the big one that didn't give a crap about games played in the 30's. Titletown probably needs an infrastructure makeover.
Nothing wrong with celebrating the history and tradition of a storied franchise. Fans of teams that haven't existed lomg don't really get it I guess. Not knocking you personally, I just don't get why anyone would try to lessen the meaning of championships from before their time. They still matter to the franchises and their fans, and sometimes that fandom goes back generations in families, which is pretty cool, IMO.
 
Its not like the game was even remotely close the Seahawks looked like utter trash for 55 minutes.
The Seattle offense was trash for 55 minutes. The Seattle defense kept them close enough to give them a chance. Lacy had about 70 yards? Rogers had about 170 yards? Was the Seahawk defense trash? I don't think so.

 
Question for a Packer fan: Why isn't Mathews a defensive captain?

It just seemed odd to me. Is there a story here? Is it a non-story? :shrug:

 
This Seahawks defense is unbelievable. It is amazing to me that such a dominant defense even exists in today's NFL. It will be interesting to see how long Seattle can keep the core of this unit together.

 
Also, Seattle homers, I've been wondering lately about the development of Cassius Marsh... Any of you guys care to chime in? That dude, if he ever becomes a legit player, he's going to be scary. He has the meanest mean steak I think I've ever seen.

 
Its not like the game was even remotely close the Seahawks looked like utter trash for 55 minutes.
The Seattle offense was trash for 55 minutes. The Seattle defense kept them close enough to give them a chance. Lacy had about 70 yards? Rogers had about 170 yards? Was the Seahawk defense trash? I don't think so.
:goodposting:

I've never understood attempting to disqualify a victorious opponent. Aren't you only disqualifying your own team? :shrug:

 
Also, Seattle homers, I've been wondering lately about the development of Cassius Marsh... Any of you guys care to chime in? That dude, if he ever becomes a legit player, he's going to be scary. He has the meanest mean steak I think I've ever seen.
He's been on the IR since mid October.

 
Its not like the game was even remotely close the Seahawks looked like utter trash for 55 minutes.
The Seattle offense was trash for 55 minutes. The Seattle defense kept them close enough to give them a chance. Lacy had about 70 yards? Rogers had about 170 yards? Was the Seahawk defense trash? I don't think so.
And the Packer offense was trash for 45 minutes. I don't get the dominated for 55 minutes narrative. Seattle outgained GB in 3 quarters and outscored them in 2. Yes, they were BEHIND the whole game, thanks to a disastrous start by the offense, but if the Hawks were dominated on offense for 3 quarters, so were the Packers - just the last 3.

 
Can't imagine what that game did to Packer fans yesterday.

All I can say is this is the last season the Seahawks get Wilson for peanuts, and Eddie Lacy is going to be something special, so the future isn't looking so bad for you guys
Hawks have the money to lock up Wilson long term, as well as the other big FA this coming offseason (Wagner). Everyone else is already under contract for the most part. We will most likely lose Maxwell this offseason, but I trust Seattle to find a suitable replacement for him.

On a related note, I really hope Dan Quinn doesn't take Kris Richard with him to ATL.
I probably don't know the salary cap situation as well as you, and I know trading Harvin away helps, but I'm not sure it's possible to positively spin Wilson's $20+ million pay raise :shrug: He deserves to be the highest paid player in the league, especially if he wins his 2nd ring.
The positive way to spin it is that we have a qb deserving of an enormous contract. It's really the best case scenario. The way people talk about his contract it's like he'll be a millstone around the neck of the franchise. He's Russell ####### Wilson. And he's ours. That's the positive way to spin it.

 
The Seahawks are clearly the better team. I am pretty upset about this loss, but have serious doubts about GB's ability to win even 1 out of 10 games in seattle.

Seattle had an absolutely miserable game on offense. Wilson was in a funk and had some terrible luck with I believe two balls bouncing off receivers hands right into GB hands and one pass basically sticking to haha like he was a velcro wall. Yet somehow with all of that going wrong GB was only up two scores. They seemed awfully happy with that. Seattle almost seemed comfortable. When the clock was winding down and they were still running the ball I thought it was pretty brilliant. Seattle is the only team that would have even considered that. Which is kind of funny when you think about it. Look how often NFL teams will throw a two yard pass to a guy with a defender right on him in the two minute drill, but would never in a million years run off the right tackle. If you stop and think about it what's the difference?

Rodgers didnt play well, but what I found most intimidating about the Seahawks defense was that on almost every throw where Rodgers threw to a spot or by timing(rather than seeing the play develop and hitting an open receiver) the Seattle defender was right there. The missed TD to Jordy was the rare exception. That shows Rodgers and company were not only outplayed by the seattle def, but they were also outcoached and outcalled.

Great game I am sure for a neutral fan. Good luck Seattle, you deserve it.

 
The Seahawks are clearly the better team. I am pretty upset about this loss, but have serious doubts about GB's ability to win even 1 out of 10 games in seattle.

Seattle had an absolutely miserable game on offense. Wilson was in a funk and had some terrible luck with I believe two balls bouncing off receivers hands right into GB hands and one pass basically sticking to haha like he was a velcro wall. Yet somehow with all of that going wrong GB was only up two scores. They seemed awfully happy with that. Seattle almost seemed comfortable. When the clock was winding down and they were still running the ball I thought it was pretty brilliant. Seattle is the only team that would have even considered that. Which is kind of funny when you think about it. Look how often NFL teams will throw a two yard pass to a guy with a defender right on him in the two minute drill, but would never in a million years run off the right tackle. If you stop and think about it what's the difference?

Rodgers didnt play well, but what I found most intimidating about the Seahawks defense was that on almost every throw where Rodgers threw to a spot or by timing(rather than seeing the play develop and hitting an open receiver) the Seattle defender was right there. The missed TD to Jordy was the rare exception. That shows Rodgers and company were not only outplayed by the seattle def, but they were also outcoached and outcalled.

Great game I am sure for a neutral fan. Good luck Seattle, you deserve it.
No, Seattle isn't clearly better. The game went to OT and Rodger's calf injury was a factor as he was much less mobile. Game game down to some big plays and maybe a little luck (2 point conversion?) down the stretch - Give Seattle credit for that. And maybe GB stopped playing to soon... but these teams were well matched.

 
Also, Seattle homers, I've been wondering lately about the development of Cassius Marsh... Any of you guys care to chime in? That dude, if he ever becomes a legit player, he's going to be scary. He has the meanest mean steak I think I've ever seen.
He was getting playing time before he got hurt and headed to IR. I'm hopeful that he and Jordan Hill will be the next men up next season. Hill really started to shine before he got hurt. Marsh didn't really get the opportunity to shine yet. Pretty sure he was out by week 4 or 5.

 
Like I told someone today as long as I can point to those 13 championships (most in the NFL), no Bears Super Bowl win, and no team 3-peating as a Champion (Packers only team to do it and they did it twice) then I really can care less.
A quick look at Wikipedia shows 11 championships before we landed on the moon. Four of those before the end of WWII. Nice job.
All Championships are in the past by their very nature. Which astronaut were you?
I was the big one that didn't give a crap about games played in the 30's. Titletown probably needs an infrastructure makeover.
http://www.jsonline.com/news/traffic/no-new-sagging-on-leo-frigo-bridge-on-i-43-in-green-bay-dot-says-b99112046z1-226307681.html

Here you go but the bridge is fixed now. Not sure what other roads might need repairing as I have not been up there in a few years.

 
The Seahawks are clearly the better team. I am pretty upset about this loss, but have serious doubts about GB's ability to win even 1 out of 10 games in seattle.

Seattle had an absolutely miserable game on offense. Wilson was in a funk and had some terrible luck with I believe two balls bouncing off receivers hands right into GB hands and one pass basically sticking to haha like he was a velcro wall. Yet somehow with all of that going wrong GB was only up two scores. They seemed awfully happy with that. Seattle almost seemed comfortable. When the clock was winding down and they were still running the ball I thought it was pretty brilliant. Seattle is the only team that would have even considered that. Which is kind of funny when you think about it. Look how often NFL teams will throw a two yard pass to a guy with a defender right on him in the two minute drill, but would never in a million years run off the right tackle. If you stop and think about it what's the difference?

Rodgers didnt play well, but what I found most intimidating about the Seahawks defense was that on almost every throw where Rodgers threw to a spot or by timing(rather than seeing the play develop and hitting an open receiver) the Seattle defender was right there. The missed TD to Jordy was the rare exception. That shows Rodgers and company were not only outplayed by the seattle def, but they were also outcoached and outcalled.

Great game I am sure for a neutral fan. Good luck Seattle, you deserve it.
No, Seattle isn't clearly better. The game went to OT and Rodger's calf injury was a factor as he was much less mobile. Game game down to some big plays and maybe a little luck (2 point conversion?) down the stretch - Give Seattle credit for that. And maybe GB stopped playing to soon... but these teams were well matched.
Seattle was 2-0 against GB this year. Crushed them the first time. They had 5 turnovers and still pulled out the win the second time. Clearly Seattle's defense has Green Bay's number. Does anybody really think that the GB defense has a chance to do that again to the Seattle offense?

More than likely subsequent games would look more like the last 3 minutes and OT than the first 57 minutes.

 

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