Why does a player need to miss a significant amount of games to be a comeback player? So you would have been more impressed with AD getting injured in week 3 of last year, missing more games and having more time to recover before coming back this year? Then he would be eligible for the comeback player. Make sense.So the Comeback Player of the Year can now go to players who miss 4 or so games?AP shouldn't even be on the ballot for Comeback Player.
Technically ADP is not really coming back since he played almost all of last season. If ADP miss the last 3 games with an ankle sprain would he be the comeback player of the year?Forget about the comeback award. ADP is going to win the MVP Award.Why does a player need to miss a significant amount of games to be a comeback player? So you would have been more impressed with AD getting injured in week 3 of last year, missing more games and having more time to recover before coming back this year? Then he would be eligible for the comeback player. Make sense.So the Comeback Player of the Year can now go to players who miss 4 or so games?AP shouldn't even be on the ballot for Comeback Player.
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Even if AP breaks the rushing record he will not win the MVP award. I don't think any player from any non-playoff team should ever win the MVP, because clearly whatever they are doing is not good enough to make the team a winner. People may complain about it being the MVQB nowadays but I see good reason for that. The game is so immensely complex and the QB is responsible for so much of it that it really takes someone playing a skill position incredibly well (and for that team to be winning because of it) for them to warrant consideration over even an above average QB. Someone like Rodgers, even this year, with what he does on every single play is just incredible. The amount of information he processes is amazing and then to be able to make an athletic play based on that information is even better. Rodgers or Brady have my vote for MVP, hands-down.Technically ADP is not really coming back since he played almost all of last season. If ADP miss the last 3 games with an ankle sprain would he be the comeback player of the year?Forget about the comeback award. ADP is going to win the MVP Award.Why does a player need to miss a significant amount of games to be a comeback player? So you would have been more impressed with AD getting injured in week 3 of last year, missing more games and having more time to recover before coming back this year? Then he would be eligible for the comeback player. Make sense.So the Comeback Player of the Year can now go to players who miss 4 or so games?AP shouldn't even be on the ballot for Comeback Player.
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can we have a co-comeback player of the year?![]()
The number of games Peterson missed last year irrelevant. Not being in the NFL the prior year is only 1 of 3 possible things to make you eligible. A severe injury, which he had, is one of the potential qualifiers.The player named Comeback Player of the Year shows perseverance in overcoming adversity, in the form of not being in the NFL the previous year, a severe injury, or simply poor performance.
After further thought I'd give Manning the "comeback" award for that reason..Ap Should get MVP regardless if the team makes the playoffs or not.both are amazing, but I give the nod to Peyton since he missed the entire season last year and switched teams in the process.
There has been CO MVPs, dont see why they cant have two come back players.can we have a co-comeback player of the year?![]()
After further thought I'd give Manning the "comeback" award for that reason..Ap Should get MVP regardless if the team makes the playoffs or not.both are amazing, but I give the nod to Peyton since he missed the entire season last year and switched teams in the process.
He is returning for ACL surgery, threatening the 2000 yard mark, all while playing with one of the worst starting QB in the NFL right now.
Vikings would be lucky to have 3 wins without AP.. IMO, THAT is the definition of MVP.
The Broncos won in the playoffs last year with Tim Tebow at QB.So, although Manning is having a great year, the Broncos were already a pretty good team.
There has been CO MVPs, dont see why they cant have two come back players.can we have a co-comeback player of the year?![]()
I think Denver would still be in the playoffs, with or without Manning.. They were there last year with Tebow and their division still stinks.Patriots.. hmmm I could see the argument for Brady as the Patriots wouldn't be very good without him.. Then again, look at their division.Vikings without Peterson, in this division?? 3 wins, if they were lucky.. If he hits the 2,000 yard mark, I'm Not sure what else a player has to do to be worthy of the MVP'Aaron Rudnicki said:I don't think AP wins the MVP award over Peyton or Brady if the Vikings don't even make the playoffs.
how valuable can a player truly be if the team doesn't make the playoffs? They could miss the playoffs without him.I think many voters won't vote for a player on a non-playoff team as a matter of principle.BTW, Percy Harvin was getting MVP consideration only a month or so ago.I think Denver would still be in the playoffs, with or without Manning.. They were there last year with Tebow and their division still stinks.Patriots.. hmmm I could see the argument for Brady as the Patriots wouldn't be very good without him.. Then again, look at their division.Vikings without Peterson, in this division?? 3 wins, if they were lucky.. If he hits the 2,000 yard mark, I'm Not sure what else a player has to do to be worthy of the MVP'Aaron Rudnicki said:I don't think AP wins the MVP award over Peyton or Brady if the Vikings don't even make the playoffs.![]()
Is is relevant to a number of us'FreeBaGeL said:The number of games Peterson missed last year irrelevant. Not being in the NFL the prior year is only 1 of 3 possible things to make you eligible. A severe injury, which he had, is one of the potential qualifiers.The player named Comeback Player of the Year shows perseverance in overcoming adversity, in the form of not being in the NFL the previous year, a severe injury, or simply poor performance.
I like the co-MVP/CPOY idea.Give one of them MVP, and the other Comeback Player. Or make them co-MVPs/co-Comeback Player.
lol...no.Matt freakin Cassel won 11 games with the Pats. Did you forget that?I think Denver would still be in the playoffs, with or without Manning.. They were there last year with Tebow and their division still stinks.Patriots.. hmmm I could see the argument for Brady as the Patriots wouldn't be very good without him.. Then again, look at their division.'Aaron Rudnicki said:I don't think AP wins the MVP award over Peyton or Brady if the Vikings don't even make the playoffs.
Vikings without Peterson, in this division??
3 wins, if they were lucky.. If he hits the 2,000 yard mark, I'm Not sure what else a player has to do to be worthy of the MVP![]()
Too bad Harvin got hurt...it would be funny seeing people trying to argue for co-MVPs on the same team which didn't make the playoffshow valuable can a player truly be if the team doesn't make the playoffs? They could miss the playoffs without him.I think many voters won't vote for a player on a non-playoff team as a matter of principle.BTW, Percy Harvin was getting MVP consideration only a month or so ago.I think Denver would still be in the playoffs, with or without Manning.. They were there last year with Tebow and their division still stinks.Patriots.. hmmm I could see the argument for Brady as the Patriots wouldn't be very good without him.. Then again, look at their division.Vikings without Peterson, in this division?? 3 wins, if they were lucky.. If he hits the 2,000 yard mark, I'm Not sure what else a player has to do to be worthy of the MVP'Aaron Rudnicki said:I don't think AP wins the MVP award over Peyton or Brady if the Vikings don't even make the playoffs.![]()
Who thought he would never play again? http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/11178865-419/doctors-peyton-mannings-neck-may-be-stronger.htmlIMO, it's Manning. A lot of people thought he would never play again. We knew ADP would be back this year, he just exceeded our expectations. Add in that Peyton went through four surgeries, while ADP had what has become a pretty commonplace ACL repair.
I don't think people really knew what was wrong with Peyton and that is what scares them. Sure, it wasn't a given he'd return but many doctors said it was more about arm strength and regaining nerves. The nerves didn't appear to have anything to do with Peyton while he does get credit for getting his arm strength back. But I look at Comeback POY as someone who works his butt off to come back from an injury and that would be AP. Sure, people come back from ACL's all the time but how many come back as strong or even stronger? How many come back 8.5 months later and can come back looking like the old AP? That is just a testament to how hard he works.Fans hear the words “neck fusion” and wonder why Peyton Manning is even considering playing again, fearful he’ll risk a career-ending injury — or worse — the next time he takes a hit.But safety isn’t Manning’s issue, several spine specialists said. Arm strength is.
With Harvin they make the playoffs.Too bad Harvin got hurt...it would be funny seeing people trying to argue for co-MVPs on the same team which didn't make the playoffshow valuable can a player truly be if the team doesn't make the playoffs? They could miss the playoffs without him.I think many voters won't vote for a player on a non-playoff team as a matter of principle.BTW, Percy Harvin was getting MVP consideration only a month or so ago.I think Denver would still be in the playoffs, with or without Manning.. They were there last year with Tebow and their division still stinks.Patriots.. hmmm I could see the argument for Brady as the Patriots wouldn't be very good without him.. Then again, look at their division.Vikings without Peterson, in this division?? 3 wins, if they were lucky.. If he hits the 2,000 yard mark, I'm Not sure what else a player has to do to be worthy of the MVP'Aaron Rudnicki said:I don't think AP wins the MVP award over Peyton or Brady if the Vikings don't even make the playoffs.![]()
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So the Comeback Player of the Year can now go to players who miss 4 or so games?AP shouldn't even be on the ballot for Comeback Player.
Didn't Pennington win the Comeback POY and didn't miss a single game the year earlier?So the Comeback Player of the Year can now go to players who miss 4 or so games?AP shouldn't even be on the ballot for Comeback Player.
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