TommyKramer
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I realize that most people will be switching back and forth, but which station do you "plan" on watching most?
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Good lord, you would want to listen to Michael Irvin and Chris Berman for NFL draft coverage? As much as I don't like Kiper, he is in his element on draft day so it is the one day where I actually enjoy listening to him.I think I'd rather watch Berman, Kiper, M Irivin, etc over Mayock, Butch Davis, and Rich Eisen.
However a draft without having to hear Berman is very tempting.
Lol....it's more of an anti Mayock, Davis, and Eisen comment moreso than a pro-Irivn & Berman comment!Good lord, you would want to listen to Michael Irvin and Chris Berman for NFL draft coverage? As much as I don't like Kiper, he is in his element on draft day so it is the one day where I actually enjoy listening to him.I think I'd rather watch Berman, Kiper, M Irivin, etc over Mayock, Butch Davis, and Rich Eisen.
Suprised Mayock, Davis (not so suprised) and Eisen have you rubbed you that badly. Fair statement on your part.Lol....it's more of an anti Mayock, Davis, and Eisen comment moreso than a pro-Irivn & Berman comment!Good lord, you would want to listen to Michael Irvin and Chris Berman for NFL draft coverage? As much as I don't like Kiper, he is in his element on draft day so it is the one day where I actually enjoy listening to him.I think I'd rather watch Berman, Kiper, M Irivin, etc over Mayock, Butch Davis, and Rich Eisen.
Kiper is way too over-dramatic and acts like he's in a high school play when talking about prospects.ESPN.....just because of Kiper, and if Mayne is on there....that guy cracks me up.
Overall i'm a bigger NFL Network fan, as soon as that ##### Suzy Kolber opens her yap I'll flip over to NFL.
this can't be ***official*** because you didn't touch the arm of the guy next to you. michael irvin does this...a lot. just watch and laugh - he touches the arm of the guy sitting next to him all the timeon topic - mel kiper jr. keeps me on ESPN this yearHow to do a Michael Irvin impersonation
1) Raise cheeks high enough to force your eyes to squint
2) Raise voice (but not to scream level) and begin every comment with, "WRONG, WRONG, WRONG! The way I see it is...."
3) Proceed to make ridiculous statement
4) After speaking, smile wide to show off your white teeth
5) Laugh at said person, turn and laugh at camera and finally turn and laugh at everyone else in the studio.
6) Proceed laughing if one senses someone else has something to say.
7) If necessary, raise volume of laughter and cycle through laughing at said person, camera and others in the studio.
Another Canuck here voting the NFL Network.TSN has simulcast 3-4 hours of 1st round ESPN coverage for several years, but it's just not enough for a draft-junkie.We only have full coverage of the draft in Canada for those who have THE Network. ESPN's feed on TSN will be only for the FIRST THREE hours as they'll switch to the NHL playoffs at 3 pm.
So for me the answer was easy.... THE network.
Is he still pimp'n Big Mike Williams as the clear cut best player at any position in 2005?I go where Kiper goes...love the guy.
Please...not too many first year WRs blow up. Additionally, no analyst is right on every guy.Is he still pimp'n Big Mike Williams as the clear cut best player at any position in 2005?I go where Kiper goes...love the guy.
If Kiper said Mike Williams would eventually have the best career of all the wide receivers in 2005, I would be a little more understanding. But he said Mike Williams would be the best player regardless of position.I give analyst more leeway (sp??) the further down their list we go. But I don't give much leeway at the very top of their list; BMW = #1 overall.Please...not too many first year WRs blow up. Additionally, no analyst is right on every guy.Is he still pimp'n Big Mike Williams as the clear cut best player at any position in 2005?I go where Kiper goes...love the guy.
Given that BMW is a WR, I think we need to give him at least another year before this statement can be deemed incorrect.If Kiper said Mike Williams would eventually have the best career of all the wide receivers in 2005, I would be a little more understanding. But he said Mike Williams would be the best player regardless of position.I give analyst more leeway (sp??) the further down their list we go. But I don't give much leeway at the very top of their list; BMW = #1 overall.Please...not too many first year WRs blow up. Additionally, no analyst is right on every guy.Is he still pimp'n Big Mike Williams as the clear cut best player at any position in 2005?I go where Kiper goes...love the guy.
I certainly would not be open to changing my mind later provided BMW breaks out and starts marching towards the HOF. But part of Kiper's hyperbole was how finished he was and that BMW could step on an NFL field immediately and contribute.Kiper deserves ridicule for the level of certainity he portrayed in BMW and the hyperbole in which he extolled the immediate greatness of BMW.Given that BMW is a WR, I think we need to give him at least another year before this statement can be deemed incorrect.If Kiper said Mike Williams would eventually have the best career of all the wide receivers in 2005, I would be a little more understanding. But he said Mike Williams would be the best player regardless of position.I give analyst more leeway (sp??) the further down their list we go. But I don't give much leeway at the very top of their list; BMW = #1 overall.Please...not too many first year WRs blow up. Additionally, no analyst is right on every guy.Is he still pimp'n Big Mike Williams as the clear cut best player at any position in 2005?I go where Kiper goes...love the guy.
I agree that the hyperbole was extensive as it relates to BMW, but at the same time the hyperbole is part of what makes Kiper great IMHO. I don't mind hyperbole as long as it is backed by solid arguments.Kiper deserves ridicule for the level of certainity he portrayed in BMW and the hyperbole in which he extolled the immediate greatness of BMW.
Edited - See above.
One other thing, Joey Harrington down? There are several guys in Detroit that might be really good and we won't find out until this year.I certainly would not be open to changing my mind later provided BMW breaks out and starts marching towards the HOF. But part of Kiper's hyperbole was how finished he was and that BMW could step on an NFL field immediately and contribute.Kiper deserves ridicule for the level of certainity he portrayed in BMW and the hyperbole in which he extolled the immediate greatness of BMW.Given that BMW is a WR, I think we need to give him at least another year before this statement can be deemed incorrect.If Kiper said Mike Williams would eventually have the best career of all the wide receivers in 2005, I would be a little more understanding. But he said Mike Williams would be the best player regardless of position.I give analyst more leeway (sp??) the further down their list we go. But I don't give much leeway at the very top of their list; BMW = #1 overall.Please...not too many first year WRs blow up. Additionally, no analyst is right on every guy.Is he still pimp'n Big Mike Williams as the clear cut best player at any position in 2005?I go where Kiper goes...love the guy.
Edited - See above.
I don't know if Harrington had anything to do with Lawerence Vines (sp??) getting ahead of BMW on the depth charts.One other thing, Joey Harrington down? There are several guys in Detroit that might be really good and we won't find out until this year.