NFL Draft Order / Fantasy Draft order (1 Viewer)

[montanagold]

Okay.... quick question it benefits my FFL... however, I'm now really curious.

How is next years draft order determined for the following scenario in both cases:

1) NFL

2) Fantasy

Scenario: Team A wins its division with a 9-7 record and losses its first round playoff game. Team B earns a wild card with a 12-4 record and losses its first round playoff game.

Thanks.

MG

 

[ELI2TYREE]

Okay.... quick question it benefits my FFL... however, I'm now really curious.How is next years draft order determined for the following scenario in both cases:1) NFL2) FantasyScenario: Team A wins its division with a 9-7 record and losses its first round playoff game. Team B earns a wild card with a 12-4 record and losses its first round playoff game.Thanks.MG

Well, without any other info, (like size of league, number of teams in playoffs , etc) i'd say that the division winner is the higher seeded team in the playoffs and therefore picks later than the Wild Card team that lost in the first round as well.More info would get you a clearer answer though.

 

[montanagold]

I'm thinking standard serpentine redraft league. I guess the question came up because I thought in the NFL (which fantasy doesn't always mimick) that the draft order is as follows:

• The team with the lowest winning percentage at the end of the previous season drafts first in the NFL Draft.

• The rest of the teams are placed in order from lowest winning percentage to the highest.

• The Super Bowl winner drafts last, even if they do not have the highest winning percentage.

• The Super Bowl loser drafts next to last.

• Strength of schedule for the previous season is the first tie-breaker for teams with the same winning percentage.

• Divisional and conference records are the next step in the tie-breaking procedure.

• As a last resort, a coin toss is used to determine the order of selection for teams with the same winning percentage.

• If a playoff and non-playoff team end the season with the same winning percentage, the non-playoff team selects before the playoff team regardless of strength of schedule.

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Oddly enough I'm baffled to the answer?

 

[ELI2TYREE]

I'm thinking standard serpentine redraft league. I guess the question came up because I thought in the NFL (which fantasy doesn't always mimick) that the draft order is as follows:

• The team with the lowest winning percentage at the end of the previous season drafts first in the NFL Draft.

• The rest of the teams are placed in order from lowest winning percentage to the highest.

• The Super Bowl winner drafts last, even if they do not have the highest winning percentage.

• The Super Bowl loser drafts next to last.

• Strength of schedule for the previous season is the first tie-breaker for teams with the same winning percentage.

• Divisional and conference records are the next step in the tie-breaking procedure.

• As a last resort, a coin toss is used to determine the order of selection for teams with the same winning percentage.

• If a playoff and non-playoff team end the season with the same winning percentage, the non-playoff team selects before the playoff team regardless of strength of schedule.

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Oddly enough I'm baffled to the answer?

Ok - in my ten team legue here is what i do:I determine the order of finish for the regular season (and thus the teams that qualify for the playoffs) of my league, using the following tie breakers if necessary.

Each Division Winner will have an automatic berth in the Championship Playoffs. All ties will be decided upon in the following manner:

1st Tie break: Division Record

2nd Tie break: Head to Head match ups by Records

3rd Tie break: Head to Head match up by Points

4th Tie break: Overall Points

5th Tie Break: Overall Points Allowed (team that has less)

In the event of a three way tie (or more), the tie is broken by head to head matchup records, and then head to head points scored. In the unlikely event that this does not work, then total points scored and then overall points allowed will conclude the tie breaking scenario.

The remaining two Wild Card Playoff Positions will be determined by Best Record, regardless of which Division they are in. Tie Break Rules as shown above will apply here as well with the exception being that Division Record is not used as a tie breaker.

Best Record Division Winner plays Worst Record Wild Card. The other two teams will play each other.

Consolation matchups are as follows but these results are not included in the determintation of draft order for the next season:

Week 15

1) #5 vs. #6

2) #7 vs. #8

3) #9 vs. #10

Week 16

W1 vs. W2

L1 vs. W3

L2 vs. L3

Ties that occur in Playoff Games will be decided by highest seeding for the playoffs.

Now to determine the draft order for the next season, you simply start from the bottom and go to the top:

10,9,8,7,6,5 is the easy part (picks 1,2,3,4,5,6)

Teams seedec #4-#1 draft slots are determined by where they finish in the playoffs. If the #4 seed wins the Superbowl, he is the #10 pick in the draft. The team that loses in the Superbowl is the #9 pick. The team that wins the "Playoff Consolation Game" is the #8 pcik and the loser is #7.

Hope that helps.

 

[montanagold]

It doesn't help!! Am I just missing it? Standard 12 team league. 6 teams go. So theres 4 division winners and 2 wildcards. I'm saying a division winner with a horrible record took a higher seed than a wild card team with a great record. Both teams bombed out the 1st playoff game.

So does the draft weigh the playoff seeding? Or should it be winning percentage?

MG

 

[nittanylion]

I'm all for prior season's performance being used in as a factor in determining draft position if you're in a Dynasty or Keeper League, however for a 'standard serpentine redraft League', count me in the camp that feels that what happened last year, happened last year.

New year, clean slate, fresh start.

I run a High Stakes local that's going into it's 12th year. Our entry fees have increased yearly to the point that when it crossed the $500 barrier, for the good of the League, of my own volition, I quit playing in said League, and decide to run it as a neutral independant Commissioner in the interests of preserving integrity...

Now, whether you have an 'independant, neutral Commissioner' or not, you can always employ a neutral party to assist in determining draft order to ensure that everyone has a fair and even chance at getting any pick by employing this option:

Prior to the Draft, go to a 'Dollar Store', and find the isle where they have the party favors for childrens birthday parties. You'll find bin after bin of toys - soldiers, dinosaurs, animals, sea creatures, race cars, whatever...most of these will have at least 12 different items you can pick up for far less than a dollar apiece.

When you arrive at wherever you're drafting, pick some random person and ask if they'll assist you. If you're drafting at a Sports Bar, this is a great way to meet that mysterious cutie that caught your attention when you walked in. Just give her a piece of paper, cocktail napkin, whatever, and have them assign a # to each of the items, and have her hold onto it until everyone in your League is in attendance and ready to pick. Give her an envelope to seal the paper or napkin in when she's finished. Collect the items and put them all on a table and have everyone pick one. After everyone has an item, retrieve the envelope from aforementioned cutie and with great flourish and fanfare, open it and reveal what #'s are associated with each item.

This can either be the draft order, or, as I prefer, the order in which each team selects the slot they wish to draft from...

We've been doing this for a while now, to the point where it's absolutely hilarious watching folks gauge the items with great scrutiny, attempting to unlock the mystery as to which might be associated with the #1 slot. The toys are cheap, and of course everyone keeps theirs and either places it in a position of reverance, or maybe burns it or flushes it down the toilet if it yeilded a subpar choice...inevitably through the course of the draft, they morph into projectiles, launched at appropriate moments (elation, derision, boredom, annoyance or just for the hell of it)...

I just finished reading an entertaining book documenting the activities of a Fantasy League from preseason through their Championship Game, and am contemplating copying their method of determining Draft Position this year...

...One of the Owners has a fishtank in his conference room where the Draft is held, and it, of course, contains a couple of piranha, which he puts on a starvation diet a week or so before the 'Selection Ceremony' is held. Each owner gets a unique goldfish, and at the appropriate moment, the goldfish are unceremoniously dumped into the tank, and the ensuing carnage employs Darwinism as a means of determining draft position. Guy who's goldfish gets eaten last gets either the first pick, or first choice of picks, depending on your League's preference.

Bloom and I discussed this earlier, and unanimously felt that anything involving piranha eating something was probably a very worthy idea to consider...