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**SNF Vikings at Lions** (-3, 56) 8:20 (1 Viewer)

Had a chance to finish in the money for my season-long confidence pool, but realized before the game that there was no way I could win if I picked the Lions. Whereas if I switched to Minnesota I could come in third if they won.

Never have I been so happy to lose $130
 
Admittedly, I haven't been the biggest proponent of Aaron Glenn, but this is a master class.
I've never watched an Alt22 game film, but I'd be very interested in this one. Every move, every fake, every stunt seemed perfectly anticipated by the Lions DEF. Robertson on Jefferson will get the press (deservedly so), nobody was open all night
 
Vikings 4 trips inside the red zone and have 3 field goals to show for it
That's the ball game, you can't settle for field goals

Not Sam Darnold's best performance
Kevin O'Connell called 3 pass plays on 3 consecutive plays from the 2 yard line. That's inexcusable.
I agree with you that couldn't keep settling for field goals, and that Darnold looked bad (nervous and bailing on making his reads). KOC was going to pass and the Lions guessed it correctly and that kept pressure on Darnold all night. Running more often would have relieved some of that pressure and, more importantly, gotten a TD or 2.
 
"I'll see you in two weeks."

- Dan Campbell to KOC in the postgame handshake
I am not going to lie. I will be rooting for the Commanders so we don't see you in 2 weeks. Even if we manage to get past the Rams.
Of all the NFC playoff teams, that's probably the opponent I'd fear the least.

Some of you may have seen me mention before that I'm actually an NFL bigamist, and have been a fan of both Detroit and Washington since childhood. But the Lions were my first love (Billy Sims got to town a year before Joe Gibbs), and if they face each other in the playoffs there's no question who I'd be cheering for.
 
Vikings 4 trips inside the red zone and have 3 field goals to show for it
That's the ball game, you can't settle for field goals

Not Sam Darnold's best performance
Kevin O'Connell called 3 pass plays on 3 consecutive plays from the 2 yard line. That's inexcusable.
I agree with you that couldn't keep settling for field goals, and that Darnold looked bad (nervous and bailing on making his reads). KOC was going to pass and the Lions guessed it correctly and that kept pressure on Darnold all night. Running more often would have relieved some of that pressure and, more importantly, gotten a TD or 2.

11 Goal to Go plays

9 passes, 1 completion, 3 yards.

Amik Robertson had 1 PBU, two other times he got hit as he was throwing.

The other 6.....gonna wait for the All 22, had trying to dissect angles from the broadcast, and there is nothing dumber than still photos showing how open someone was....but definitely a lot of high throws. He was under duress. The first goal line stand they blitzed two straight times, FG. The last two they were mostly dropping 7 - have to give the Lions some credit, it wasn't 100% "aw Sam Darnold sucks!"
 
Vikings 4 trips inside the red zone and have 3 field goals to show for it
That's the ball game, you can't settle for field goals

Not Sam Darnold's best performance
Kevin O'Connell called 3 pass plays on 3 consecutive plays from the 2 yard line. That's inexcusable.
I agree with you that couldn't keep settling for field goals, and that Darnold looked bad (nervous and bailing on making his reads). KOC was going to pass and the Lions guessed it correctly and that kept pressure on Darnold all night. Running more often would have relieved some of that pressure and, more importantly, gotten a TD or 2.

11 Goal to Go plays

9 passes, 1 completion, 3 yards.

Amik Robertson had 1 PBU, two other times he got hit as he was throwing.

The other 6.....gonna wait for the All 22, had trying to dissect angles from the broadcast, and there is nothing dumber than still photos showing how open someone was....but definitely a lot of high throws. He was under duress. The first goal line stand they blitzed two straight times, FG. The last two they were mostly dropping 7 - have to give the Lions some credit, it wasn't 100% "aw Sam Darnold sucks!"
Agree completely. The playcalling was horrible on goal to go plays.
 
Holy Toledo.

Can’t wait to watch this one back today ( couldn’t watch live but was walking up in bed repeatedly to check the score through the night )
 
Holy Toledo.

Can’t wait to watch this one back today ( couldn’t watch live but was walking up in bed repeatedly to check the score through the night )

pay attention to 21 - travelled all night covering JJ

ReceivingTARRECYDSTDLG
J. Jefferson9354031

Can’t wait ! As I alluded to in the Lions thread the Vikings box score/player stats certainly makes for strange reading, before I even came on here I inferred from it that either A) Darnold was just awful or B) our D had somehow played a blinder despite being injury ravaged or C) a combination of both.
 
Holy Toledo.

Can’t wait to watch this one back today ( couldn’t watch live but was walking up in bed repeatedly to check the score through the night )

pay attention to 21 - travelled all night covering JJ

ReceivingTARRECYDSTDLG
J. Jefferson9354031

Can’t wait ! As I alluded to in the Lions thread the Vikings box score/player stats certainly makes for strange reading, before I even came on here I inferred from it that either A) Darnold was just awful or B) our D had somehow played a blinder despite being injury ravaged or C) a combination of both.

Well any game thread is the same thing - teams are doing really complex things to confuse & disrupt the offense, TSP collectively says "boy ___________(offensive player) really sucks"

Pretty great playoff level intensity defensively on both sides

Darnold had some high throws but they had him under duress all night & the coverage schemes were on point

But people will post still photos on Twitter and say Darnold missed so-and-so who was wide open (ignoring the receiver was the 3rd/4th progression & the pocket was collapsing)
 
Forward down the field,
A charging team that will not yield.
And when the Blue and Silver wave,
Stand and cheer the brave.
Rah, Rah, Rah.
Go hard, win the game.
With honor you will keep your fame.
Down the field and gain,
A Lion victory!
 
Holy Toledo.

Can’t wait to watch this one back today ( couldn’t watch live but was walking up in bed repeatedly to check the score through the night )

pay attention to 21 - travelled all night covering JJ

ReceivingTARRECYDSTDLG
J. Jefferson9354031

Can’t wait ! As I alluded to in the Lions thread the Vikings box score/player stats certainly makes for strange reading, before I even came on here I inferred from it that either A) Darnold was just awful or B) our D had somehow played a blinder despite being injury ravaged or C) a combination of both.

Well any game thread is the same thing - teams are doing really complex things to confuse & disrupt the offense, TSP collectively says "boy ___________(offensive player) really sucks"

Pretty great playoff level intensity defensively on both sides

Darnold had some high throws but they had him under duress all night & the coverage schemes were on point

But people will post still photos on Twitter and say Darnold missed so-and-so who was wide open (ignoring the receiver was the 3rd/4th progression & the pocket was collapsing)
Orlovsky on Get Up now showing all the throws Darnold missed. However, attributing it to how many times he got hit.
 
A lot of Lion hate in here it seems. Say what you want, they held the Vikings to zero touchdowns.
They held JJ to 3 catches on 9 targets.
Addison to 1 catch on 6 targets.
Darnold looked like Darnold at times because of the pressure. Kudos to Glenn. He is performing magic right in front of our eyes.

Edit: Not to mention Goff was pretty bad last night and they still won by a good margin.

Those saying things like "these teams have 28 wins?". Yes. Perhaps the reason it didn't appear that way was because they were playing each other.
They are two of the best teams in the NFL.

Winning last night was HUGE. The Lions need a bye. Hopefully Arnold will be ok and we can get a few more pieces back.
If we can get Hutch by the NFC Championship game, it should be a good one IF it ends up Detroit and Philly.
 
It's crazy that the offense sputtered a lot, probably their "C" game at best, and STILL scored 31 points. Jahmyr Gibbs played like the superstar that he has become and carried the offense.

No doubt that the defense is the main reason we won. Very impressive.
 
Has anyone commented on Darnold's injury? The splint or tape on his right pinky finger might have greatly impacted his accuracy.

Could be

To me it seemed he was a little amped up

I saw McCown hyping him up right before that game & immediately wondered “ is that he needs rn?” IDK everyone is different.

Used to always see young Aikman or young Favre throwing high early in big games. Stuff happens physiologically, you’re so wired in big moments, that’s fine if you’re using big muscle groups, but when it’s about fine motor skills, you need to find ways to calm yourself.
 
I hope they lose this game so they aren't tempted to wear these abominations again.
Are we talking about the black Lions jerseys here? Because those are amazing.

wish we would get over monochromatic & go back to classic mix - Honolulu blue with Silver pants

#oldmanyellingatclouds
This came up in the Lions thread the other day and I never got around to responding.

I totally agree with you that blue shirt, silver pants is the best combo. Whenever I play the Lions in Madden, that's my go-to uniform. I particularly loved that '80s look with the metallic silver numbers.

Among the monochromatic options, I prefer the blueberries the best. Black unis aren't terrible, but they don't do it for me.

Some of it is also probably a subconscious reaction to how they do in those unis. Last year I associated the blueberries with the two playoff victories and the all-whites with the Dallas and SF games, which left a bad taste in my mouth. This year I associate the whites with ... the Dallas and SF games (and 8-0 in general).

One thing I would hope we can all come together on: The all-grays were an abomination, and every one of them should be tossed in an incinerator
 
Amik Robertson was the takeaway for me. I knew he was good but not that good. To be able to put him on an island against Jefferson felt like a game changer for me.
There were a couple of times where on replay you could see Jefferson come of the line with a 3 yard cushion. He goes out, makes his downfield move/fake and Robertson was waiting for him after JJ made his break. Like he knew exactly what JJ was going to do ahead of time. I never saw an isolated camera on Addison, but different replays showed him completely covered.
 
Amik Robertson was the takeaway for me. I knew he was good but not that good. To be able to put him on an island against Jefferson felt like a game changer for me.
There were a couple of times where on replay you could see Jefferson come of the line with a 3 yard cushion. He goes out, makes his downfield move/fake and Robertson was waiting for him after JJ made his break. Like he knew exactly what JJ was going to do ahead of time. I never saw an isolated camera on Addison, but different replays showed him completely covered.

Yeah they told him Monday night after the 49ers game while they were still developing the game plan on the 6-hour plane ride home, it was gonna start with Amik shadowing him. AG hasn’t had his CB1 travel very often & they kept that in the down low.

10+ years he’s been going up against JJ, four levels of ball. Came up huge.

Also, Addison was 0/4 when Terrion had him 1-on-1. They played man on 67% of the time and generated 18 pressures.

Darnold was 4/18 when pressured, Goff 8/11. Sam was 10/19 when blitzed, Jared was 18/24. A lot of that is one guy was in a high pressure situation for maybe the first time in his pro career, the other guy has been in the playoffs a half dozen times.
 
Amik Robertson was the takeaway for me. I knew he was good but not that good. To be able to put him on an island against Jefferson felt like a game changer for me.
There were a couple of times where on replay you could see Jefferson come of the line with a 3 yard cushion. He goes out, makes his downfield move/fake and Robertson was waiting for him after JJ made his break. Like he knew exactly what JJ was going to do ahead of time. I never saw an isolated camera on Addison, but different replays showed him completely covered.

Agreed. It's not how I'm used to seeing Jefferson defended. Impressive.
 
Some of you may have seen me mention before that I'm actually an NFL bigamist, and have been a fan of both Detroit and Washington since childhood. But the Lions were my first love (Billy Sims got to town a year before Joe Gibbs), and if they face each other in the playoffs there's no question who I'd be cheering for.
I'll have to add this into my lexicon. Pulled for the Dolphins as a kid but increasingly a fan of the Panthers since they started but mostly since I moved to the city 15 years ago now. Just hard to avoid when you got to games with friends and are around it. Easier to get away with when they are in different conferences and rarely good :-)
 
Observation: Vikings fans may be the most defeatist I’ve ever seen of a fanbase.

Y’all made the playoffs on a 14-win season, & are crying in your beers over a regular season loss, & an upcoming playoff game against the Rams?

The LA Rams?!
:rolleyes:

Pick yourselves up, dust off, and ruck up, FFS. The Rams are arguably the worst playoff team in the NFC. I could make a pretty good case that after the last 3 weeks they’re the worst playoff team in the entire field of postseason teams.

Y’all got yo a$$ whoop last night by a tough lions team & an even tougher officiating crew.

But your team is still very much in it to win it as far as the playoffs go. It was a bad night. Move on. Y’all crying more than the fans of teams who actually missed the post season!

Get it together Vikings fans. Skol, and all that, remember? You’re better than this. Your team deserves better than this.
 
Is it possible the Vikings just aren’t that good? I mean, what’s their best win this year? On the road vs the Packers? Guess what — the Packers aren’t that good……

Honest question.
 
Observation: Vikings fans may be the most defeatist I’ve ever seen of a fanbase.

Y’all made the playoffs on a 14-win season, & are crying in your beers over a regular season loss, & an upcoming playoff game against the Rams?

The LA Rams?!
:rolleyes:

Pick yourselves up, dust off, and ruck up, FFS. The Rams are arguably the worst playoff team in the NFC. I could make a pretty good case that after the last 3 weeks they’re the worst playoff team in the entire field of postseason teams.

Y’all got yo a$$ whoop last night by a tough lions team & an even tougher officiating crew.

But your team is still very much in it to win it as far as the playoffs go. It was a bad night. Move on. Y’all crying more than the fans of teams who actually missed the post season!

Get it together Vikings fans. Skol, and all that, remember? You’re better than this. Your team deserves better than this.
Easy to say when you haven’t lived through the heartbreak that we have. Teams like the Browns or the Lions haven’t been good enough to break their fan’s hearts. Teams like the Colts or Giants might be bad now, but they’ve won championships in peoples lifetimes.

Currently, Minnesota is by far on the longest men’s sports championship drought of any fan base with four major men sports teams. The Vikings have like the fifth or six best winning percentage of all time in the NFL and do not have a Super Bowl.

‘98 NFC Championship game - Gary Anderson missed kick.

‘00 NFC Championship game - 41-0 vs Giants

‘09 NFC Championship game - Bountygate and Favre INT

‘17 NFC Championship Game - fresh off the Minneapolis Miracle and with a home SB opportunity on the line we go up 7-0 on the Eagles and lose 38-7 THEN HAVE TO HAVE THAT FAN BASE INVADE OUT CITY 2 WEEKS LATER and win a SB in our house.

The twins make the playoffs and go on mini runs only to lose to the Yankees seemingly every single time. Every 25 years, the Timberwolves wake up from a 35% winning rate to have a team that looks like they might go somewhere only to underperform. We literally lost our men’s hockey team, which is still mind-boggling and then the expansion team that replaced them went on a magical run in the early 2000s only to lose.

We are just conditioned from birth to expect one of our good teams to fall apart in the clutch.

I totally agree with you… If you told any of our fan base that we would be 14 and three with Sam Darnell playing at a top five level for most of the season and all of our free agent signings are significantly out, performing their contracts we would have been thrilled. However, now that we are here and now that we have seen what we saw last night we just have this in pending sense of doom and this regret for being tricked yet again into getting excited about a team.
 
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Observation: Vikings fans may be the most defeatist I’ve ever seen of a fanbase.

Y’all made the playoffs on a 14-win season, & are crying in your beers over a regular season loss, & an upcoming playoff game against the Rams?

The LA Rams?!
:rolleyes:

Pick yourselves up, dust off, and ruck up, FFS. The Rams are arguably the worst playoff team in the NFC. I could make a pretty good case that after the last 3 weeks they’re the worst playoff team in the entire field of postseason teams.

Y’all got yo a$$ whoop last night by a tough lions team & an even tougher officiating crew.

But your team is still very much in it to win it as far as the playoffs go. It was a bad night. Move on. Y’all crying more than the fans of teams who actually missed the post season!

Get it together Vikings fans. Skol, and all that, remember? You’re better than this. Your team deserves better than this.
Easy to say when you haven’t lived through the heartbreak that we have. Teams like the Browns or the Lions haven’t been good enough to break their fan’s hearts. Teams like the Colts or Giants might be bad now, but they’ve won championships in peoples lifetimes.

Currently, Minnesota is by far on the longest men’s sports championship drought of any fan base with four major men sports teams. The Vikings have like the fifth or six best winning percentage of all time in the NFL and do not have a Super Bowl.

‘98 NFC Championship game - Gary Anderson missed kick.

‘00 NFC Championship game - 41-0 vs Giants

‘09 NFC Championship game - Bountygate and Favre INT

‘17 NFC Championship Game - fresh off the Minneapolis Miracle and with a home SB opportunity on the line we go up 7-0 on the Eagles and lose 38-7 THEN HAVE TO HAVE THAT FAN BASE INVADE OUT CITY 2 WEEKS LATER and win a SB in our house.

The twins make the playoffs and go on mini runs only to lose to the Yankees seemingly every single time. Every 25 years, the Timberwolves wake up from a 35% winning rate to have a team that looks like they might go somewhere only to underperform. We literally lost our men’s hockey team, which is still mind-boggling and then the expansion team that replaced them went on a magical run in the early 2000s only to lose.

We are just conditioned from birth to expect one of our good teams to fall apart in the clutch.

I totally agree with you… If you told any of our fan base that we would be 14 and three with Sam Darnell playing at a top five level for most of the season and all of our free agent signings are significantly out, performing their contracts we would have been thrilled. However, now that we are here and now that we have seen what we saw last night we just have this in pending sense of doom and this regret for being tricked yet again into getting excited about a team.
It’s so sad when you put it that way. Like a Dickens novel. As for heartache, as a 49er fan I’ve now watched my team lose the last couple Super Bowls they were in, including just last season. And in the last 5 years they’ve lose 2 super bowls & 2 conf championships. I know a lot about heartache.

Buck up little camper. Y’all lost a regular season game. Better to get your butts whooped now than next weekend, right?

If anything it’ll serve as a wake up call. Good coaches on that team. I can’t imagine they won’t use this as motivation. Everyone’s calling them frauds, piling on Darnold. Saying their defense was playing over their skis all year.

Watch the beat-down they lay on the Rams.
 
Observation: Vikings fans may be the most defeatist I’ve ever seen of a fanbase.

Y’all made the playoffs on a 14-win season, & are crying in your beers over a regular season loss, & an upcoming playoff game against the Rams?

The LA Rams?!
:rolleyes:

Pick yourselves up, dust off, and ruck up, FFS. The Rams are arguably the worst playoff team in the NFC. I could make a pretty good case that after the last 3 weeks they’re the worst playoff team in the entire field of postseason teams.

Y’all got yo a$$ whoop last night by a tough lions team & an even tougher officiating crew.

But your team is still very much in it to win it as far as the playoffs go. It was a bad night. Move on. Y’all crying more than the fans of teams who actually missed the post season!

Get it together Vikings fans. Skol, and all that, remember? You’re better than this. Your team deserves better than this.
Easy to say when you haven’t lived through the heartbreak that we have. Teams like the Browns or the Lions haven’t been good enough to break their fan’s hearts. Teams like the Colts or Giants might be bad now, but they’ve won championships in peoples lifetimes.

Currently, Minnesota is by far on the longest men’s sports championship drought of any fan base with four major men sports teams. The Vikings have like the fifth or six best winning percentage of all time in the NFL and do not have a Super Bowl.

‘98 NFC Championship game - Gary Anderson missed kick.

‘00 NFC Championship game - 41-0 vs Giants

‘09 NFC Championship game - Bountygate and Favre INT

‘17 NFC Championship Game - fresh off the Minneapolis Miracle and with a home SB opportunity on the line we go up 7-0 on the Eagles and lose 38-7 THEN HAVE TO HAVE THAT FAN BASE INVADE OUT CITY 2 WEEKS LATER and win a SB in our house.

The twins make the playoffs and go on mini runs only to lose to the Yankees seemingly every single time. Every 25 years, the Timberwolves wake up from a 35% winning rate to have a team that looks like they might go somewhere only to underperform. We literally lost our men’s hockey team, which is still mind-boggling and then the expansion team that replaced them went on a magical run in the early 2000s only to lose.

We are just conditioned from birth to expect one of our good teams to fall apart in the clutch.

I totally agree with you… If you told any of our fan base that we would be 14 and three with Sam Darnell playing at a top five level for most of the season and all of our free agent signings are significantly out, performing their contracts we would have been thrilled. However, now that we are here and now that we have seen what we saw last night we just have this in pending sense of doom and this regret for being tricked yet again into getting excited about a team.
It’s so sad when you put it that way. Like a Dickens novel. As for heartache, as a 49er fan I’ve now watched my team lose the last couple Super Bowls they were in, including just last season. And in the last 5 years they’ve lose 2 super bowls & 2 conf championships. I know a lot about heartache.

Buck up little camper. Y’all lost a regular season game. Better to get your butts whooped now than next weekend, right?

If anything it’ll serve as a wake up call. Good coaches on that team. I can’t imagine they won’t use this as motivation. Everyone’s calling them frauds, piling on Darnold. Saying their defense was playing over their skis all year.

Watch the beat-down they lay on the Rams.
I see it as entertainment and drama. I bounce back from losses. Get excited when they win for a day, mad when they lose for 30 minutes. I’ve made my peace with the roller coaster.

I want them to bounce back, Darnold to play well, make a deep run, let Sam get paid elsewhere and build a 5-10 year SB window with JJ McCarthy.

All of our great teams were with backup or rental QBs. Culpepper and Teddy are the closest things to franchise QBs we’ve drafted and Cousins the closest we’ve signed.

I want a Burrow/Allen/Lamar/Hurts/Herbert style QB that we can lean on for a
Decade.
 

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