**NFL in London - Jaguars at Bears** (-1, 44.5) 9:30/6:30am Kickoff (1 Viewer)

[doeseatplace]

Yea go to Gabe "Hands" Davis not BTJ. Brilliant

So many drops

 

[Insein]

Sigh. And then BTJ proves me wrong.

 

[efactor]

Engram 10/100 or there about and then you don't have a WR over 30-40 yds? It's not a winning formula to funnel it all thru the TE

Well, Engram isn't a traditional TE, more a big slot. I honestly don't think that is the issue. They just suck

Engram is not as good as you seem to think, roll his number last year over targets, catches vs real production, it's not that good
IIRC the Jags missed the Playoffs last year
And he had a big fumble today, if he were a RB he'd be benched

He's not any kind of game changer at TE

I didn't say he was great, but he sure isn't the issue today. Looks really good actually. He did fumble, but shiot happens.

Thomas drops a TD. Guess he should be benched too

 

[crushedspirit]

Thomas with a Davis impression

 

[FairWarning]

Whose ready for NE-Jax in London next week?

 

[HellToupee]

Thomas

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Bears 35 - Jags 10
Let that sink in

-It's not looking good for Pederson but I would caution Khan, how many former Super Bowl winning head coaches are you going to have in the building?
But things have gone really bad since the end of the 2022 season, how long do you continue down this path? You reloaded at WR, that didn't help either.

 

[FairWarning]

What’s up with Tank B? Haven’t seen him in there.

 

[SoBeDad]

Yea go to Gabe "Hands" Davis not BTJ. Brilliant

But great display of vertical and catch radius.

 

[BLOCKED_PUNT]

Shahid Khan stepping out and giving his ringing endorsement for Coach Doug, that's always the kiss of death
The Jags would drop to 1-5 and could Pederson be the 2nd Head Coach fired after the trip to London this season?
Are we looking at him coaching for his life in the 2nd Half today? Do the players feel any responsibility?
Lawrence would potentially be with his 4th Head Coach when you count interims as well.

How we looking?
You're getting blown out in the 4th Q by the Bears

London: Where NFL coaches go to get fired

 

[Ministry of Pain]

What’s up with Tank B? Haven’t seen him in there.

"Didn't you notice on the flight over I started reading the vomit bag?!"

 

[Max Power]

Jags WRs can't catch

 

[Insein]

Ugh. No BTJ and I have Bears D. So that drive sucked all around.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

CHICAGO BEARS 4-2
let that sink in fora minute

 

[TennesseeJed]

He's not any kind of game changer at TE

He's changing my fortunes at TE today...

 

[doeseatplace]

He's not any kind of game changer at TE

He's changing my fortunes at TE today...

He's a PPR slot machine....

 

[oddsbodkins]

BTJ drop was diabolical. Always fun losing your week by noon kickoff.

 

[Dez]

Had Gabe Davis in my lineup and pulled him for Warren
Sigh

 

[FairWarning]

CHICAGO BEARS 4-2
let that sink in fora minute

This should exterminate the last of the Justin Fields truthers in Chicago.

 

[HellToupee]

These draftkings commercials just hit different nowadays

 

[Ministry of Pain]

He's not any kind of game changer at TE

He's changing my fortunes at TE today...

He's a PPR slot machine....

Yes but you would admit doing this in a 35-10 blowout doesn't exactly endure for long term success.
I would sell high immediately
If you think Brian Thomas is going to get 2/20 every week then hunker down w/Engram

 

[efactor]

He's not any kind of game changer at TE

He's changing my fortunes at TE today...

He's a PPR slot machine....

Yes but you would admit doing this in a 35-10 blowout doesn't exactly endure for long term success.
I would sell high immediately
If you think Brian Thomas is going to get 2/20 every week then hunker down w/Engram

In this case, I don't think one has to do with the other. Both can do well. Gabe Davis won't get 8 targets and 2 TDs every week either

 

[Big Blue Wrecking Crew]

Johnson over Tank why?

 

[Ministry of Pain]

He's not any kind of game changer at TE

He's changing my fortunes at TE today...

He's a PPR slot machine....

Yes but you would admit doing this in a 35-10 blowout doesn't exactly endure for long term success.
I would sell high immediately
If you think Brian Thomas is going to get 2/20 every week then hunker down w/Engram

In this case, I don't think one has to do with the other. Both can do well. Gabe Davis won't get 8 targets and 2 TDs every week either

Agree on Davis, he actually was fairly ****ty in the 1st half, (FUMBLE and BIG DROP!) this is all garbage time stats right now

 

[massraider]

In this case, I don't think one has to do with the other. Both can do well. Gabe Davis won't get 8 targets and 2 TDs every week either

oh man, he sure won't.

 

[BLOCKED_PUNT]

What time is it?!?

GARBAGE TIME!

 

[Ministry of Pain]

You'd think I would be so happy to have the Bears +1 today but the Jags are just making me sick
I thought the game would be mildly competitive

 

[efactor]

Johnson over Tank why?

I always liked Johnson. He's 4.6 YPC for his career, but never really had a chance for steady role. Guess there is a reason, but he's a good runner

 

[Insein]

That get blocked?

 

[Big Blue Wrecking Crew]

Johnson over Tank why?

I always liked Johnson. He's 4.6 YPC for his career, but never really had a chance for steady role. Guess there is a reason, but he's a good runner

I have thought the same, but all trending towards Tank especially with Etienne out. Could help explain their 1-4 (soon 5) record.

 

[efactor]

Man, that 2021 QB class sure ended up sucking

 

[SoBeDad]

Man, that 2021 QB class sure ended up sucking

Mac Jones will get a backup job somewhere in 2025. He's better than the backups in Miami.

 

[efactor]

Punt?

Why not throw a bomb? Bears going to kneel anyway. Did they need the practice?

 

[doeseatplace]

"The Jaguars got problems."--Jags radio network color commentator Jeff Lageman

 

[Hartliner]

I think its more about the Receivers dropping then passes. I saw several endzone drops from Jags.

Not a Tank game and ETN hurt before true garbage time.

But Makes me pause about how much value is in the RB room for this now 1-5 Jags team who should be in shoot outs at best.

Maybe buy ETN low. Won’t be hard.

 

[Buckna]

Yeah, Engram, Caleb, Allen all on my bench

 

[Pip's Invitation]

Shahid Khan stepping out and giving his ringing endorsement for Coach Doug, that's always the kiss of death
The Jags would drop to 1-5 and could Pederson be the 2nd Head Coach fired after the trip to London this season?
Are we looking at him coaching for his life in the 2nd Half today? Do the players feel any responsibility?
Lawrence would potentially be with his 4th Head Coach when you count interims as well.

How we looking?
You're getting blown out in the 4th Q by the Bears

London: Where NFL coaches go to get fired

Weekly reminder that this is the same HC-OC combo that produced the disaster that was Carson Wentz’ 2020 season.

 

[Chaka]

Bears 35 - Jags 10
Let that sink in

-It's not looking good for Pederson but I would caution Khan, how many former Super Bowl winning head coaches are you going to have in the building?
But things have gone really bad since the end of the 2022 season, how long do you continue down this path? You reloaded at WR, that didn't help either.

I doubt Pederson is on the flight back from London.

 

[Donnybrook]

Bears 35 - Jags 10
Let that sink in

-It's not looking good for Pederson but I would caution Khan, how many former Super Bowl winning head coaches are you going to have in the building?
But things have gone really bad since the end of the 2022 season, how long do you continue down this path? You reloaded at WR, that didn't help either.

I doubt Pederson is on the flight back from London.

Who are they going to hand the reigns over to the special teams coach. Only one that deserves it at the moment.

 

[FairWarning]

Bears 35 - Jags 10
Let that sink in

-It's not looking good for Pederson but I would caution Khan, how many former Super Bowl winning head coaches are you going to have in the building?
But things have gone really bad since the end of the 2022 season, how long do you continue down this path? You reloaded at WR, that didn't help either.

I doubt Pederson is on the flight back from London.

If they lose to NE next week, you may be right.

 

[Chaka]

Bears 35 - Jags 10
Let that sink in

-It's not looking good for Pederson but I would caution Khan, how many former Super Bowl winning head coaches are you going to have in the building?
But things have gone really bad since the end of the 2022 season, how long do you continue down this path? You reloaded at WR, that didn't help either.

I doubt Pederson is on the flight back from London.

If they lose to NE next week, you may be right.

He may not last that long but, the odds go to 100% if they lose to NE.

 

[Snoopy]

Refs taking over the game. Always enjoyable

Same crew that were not allowed in the playoffs for making many bizarre calls.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Bears 35...Jags 16

-Evan Engram investors were doing cartwheels but they shouldn't. It's great that he caught a lot of footballs but they lost by 3 TDs.
If the Jags played a close game or he had a crucial FD or perhaps even a TD cutting the lead to 1-score in the 4th I might say he's more valuable.
But with his 10/100 performance were some woeful numbers from Thomas and Kirk, I would be selling sky high on Engram
He caught 114 balls a year ago n 143 targets and produced...963 yds and 4 TDs from a whopping 143 targets, Engram is not nearly as efficient as you think he is

Jags went 9-8 and won a Playoff game vs the Chargers in '22, that was a good moment. They went 9-8 again last year but missed the Playoffs
The Jags are coming off B2B winning seasons and 2 Playoff games, winning one of them actually in 2022
I don't think Khan is going to fire Pederson, he's not likely to get a coach as good walking thru the doors
Remember 2021, TLaw rookie season? Urban Meyer was a black eye for Khan so he's not likely to make a fast or rash decisions
Even if the Jags go 4-13, they need some more impact players.
I don't see Doug being fired right away this year, could see the DC let go mid season

-Is Caleb Williams really this good? There are Qbs that don't throw 4 TDs their entire career. The bears are beating inferior teams but still, they sport a 4-2 record and will be a tough out in their Division

How would Max Crosby look in a Bears' uniform? Apparently he's available since he shoved his coach yesterday and looks frustrated.
How is Christian Wilkins doing in the middle? Haven't heard much about him since he left Miami

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

Bears 35...Jags 16

-Evan Engram investors were doing cartwheels but they shouldn't. It's great that he caught a lot of footballs but they lost by 3 TDs.
If the Jags played a close game or he had a crucial FD or perhaps even a TD cutting the lead to 1-score in the 4th I might say he's more valuable.
But with his 10/100 performance were some woeful numbers from Thomas and Kirk, I would be selling sky high on Engram
He caught 114 balls a year ago n 143 targets and produced...963 yds and 4 TDs from a whopping 143 targets, Engram is not nearly as efficient as you think he is

Jags went 9-8 and won a Playoff game vs the Chargers in '22, that was a good moment. They went 9-8 again last year but missed the Playoffs
The Jags are coming off B2B winning seasons and 2 Playoff games, winning one of them actually in 2022
I don't think Khan is going to fire Pederson, he's not likely to get a coach as good walking thru the doors
Remember 2021, TLaw rookie season? Urban Meyer was a black eye for Khan so he's not likely to make a fast or rash decisions
Even if the Jags go 4-13, they need some more impact players.
I don't see Doug being fired right away this year, could see the DC let go mid season

-Is Caleb Williams really this good? There are Qbs that don't throw 4 TDs their entire career. The bears are beating inferior teams but still, they sport a 4-2 record and will be a tough out in their Division

How would Max Crosby look in a Bears' uniform? Apparently he's available since he shoved his coach yesterday and looks frustrated.
How is Christian Wilkins doing in the middle? Haven't heard much about him since he left Miami

From a Bears perspective, I don't think Poles will be spending big money and picks on another DE this season. The DEF, while not perfect, is playing well together and the DL rotation is working. I would not be surprised if he takes a gamble on an IOL (preferably C), but I suspect he'll hold tight this season and draft OL heavy in 2025.

 

[Rubi]

Bears 35...Jags 16

-Evan Engram investors were doing cartwheels but they shouldn't. It's great that he caught a lot of footballs but they lost by 3 TDs.
If the Jags played a close game or he had a crucial FD or perhaps even a TD cutting the lead to 1-score in the 4th I might say he's more valuable.
But with his 10/100 performance were some woeful numbers from Thomas and Kirk, I would be selling sky high on Engram
He caught 114 balls a year ago n 143 targets and produced...963 yds and 4 TDs from a whopping 143 targets, Engram is not nearly as efficient as you think he is

Jags went 9-8 and won a Playoff game vs the Chargers in '22, that was a good moment. They went 9-8 again last year but missed the Playoffs
The Jags are coming off B2B winning seasons and 2 Playoff games, winning one of them actually in 2022
I don't think Khan is going to fire Pederson, he's not likely to get a coach as good walking thru the doors
Remember 2021, TLaw rookie season? Urban Meyer was a black eye for Khan so he's not likely to make a fast or rash decisions
Even if the Jags go 4-13, they need some more impact players.
I don't see Doug being fired right away this year, could see the DC let go mid season

-Is Caleb Williams really this good? There are Qbs that don't throw 4 TDs their entire career. The bears are beating inferior teams but still, they sport a 4-2 record and will be a tough out in their Division

How would Max Crosby look in a Bears' uniform? Apparently he's available since he shoved his coach yesterday and looks frustrated.
How is Christian Wilkins doing in the middle? Haven't heard much about him since he left Miami

Max Crosby would look great in any uniform.
Guy is a non stop fun player to watch
He deserves to be on a winning team