NFL Owners - Possible collusion......... (1 Viewer)

[CaGamblers]

* I don't know of one player in the NFL that had a tender placed on him this offseason that was signed by another team. Could there be collusion within the NFL owners?

Tell me why the Chargers didn’t sign Pierre Thomas and give New Orleans a 2nd rd pick (40th overall) weeks ago? This just doesn’t make sense to me at all, especially after the trade SD made with Miami last night to move up to grab Matthews at 1.12

A young proven commodity (Thomas) vs. unproven commodity (Matthews)

The San Diego Chargers acquire a first-round pick Ryan Mathews (No. 12 overall), a fourth-round pick (No. 110) and a sixth-round pick (No. 173) in a trade with the Dolphins. Miami gets LB Tim Dobbins, the 28th overall pick, a second-round pick (No. 40) and a fourth-round pick (No. 126) in return

FYI:

The #12 pick in the 2009 draft was Knowshon Moreno and here is his contract:

8/7/2009: Signed a five-year, $16.7 million contract. The deal includes $13.125 million guaranteed. Another $6.3 million is available through incentives. The Broncos can exercise an option year in 2014 by paying Moreno $5.08 million. 2010: Under Contract (+ $3.775 million roster bonus due in March), 2011-2013: Under Contract, 2014: Club Option, 2015: Free Agent

 

[SuperJohn96]

* I don't know of one player in the NFL that had a tender placed on him this offseason that was signed by another team. Could there be collusion within the NFL owners?

Tell me why the Chargers didn’t sign Pierre Thomas and give New Orleans a 2nd rd pick (40th overall) weeks ago? This just doesn’t make sense to me at all, especially after the trade SD made with Miami last night to move up to grab Matthews at 1.12

A young proven commodity (Thomas) vs. unproven commodity (Matthews)

The San Diego Chargers acquire a first-round pick Ryan Mathews (No. 12 overall), a fourth-round pick (No. 110) and a sixth-round pick (No. 173) in a trade with the Dolphins. Miami gets LB Tim Dobbins, the 28th overall pick, a second-round pick (No. 40) and a fourth-round pick (No. 126) in return

FYI:

The #12 pick in the 2009 draft was Knowshon Moreno and here is his contract:

8/7/2009: Signed a five-year, $16.7 million contract. The deal includes $13.125 million guaranteed. Another $6.3 million is available through incentives. The Broncos can exercise an option year in 2014 by paying Moreno $5.08 million. 2010: Under Contract (+ $3.775 million roster bonus due in March), 2011-2013: Under Contract, 2014: Club Option, 2015: Free Agent

How often has the opposite been the case in other years?I don't recall many times where RFA's went to new teams. Isn't that a rarity?

 

[CaGamblers]

* I don't know of one player in the NFL that had a tender placed on him this offseason that was signed by another team. Could there be collusion within the NFL owners?

Tell me why the Chargers didn’t sign Pierre Thomas and give New Orleans a 2nd rd pick (40th overall) weeks ago? This just doesn’t make sense to me at all, especially after the trade SD made with Miami last night to move up to grab Matthews at 1.12

A young proven commodity (Thomas) vs. unproven commodity (Matthews)

The San Diego Chargers acquire a first-round pick Ryan Mathews (No. 12 overall), a fourth-round pick (No. 110) and a sixth-round pick (No. 173) in a trade with the Dolphins. Miami gets LB Tim Dobbins, the 28th overall pick, a second-round pick (No. 40) and a fourth-round pick (No. 126) in return

FYI:

The #12 pick in the 2009 draft was Knowshon Moreno and here is his contract:

8/7/2009: Signed a five-year, $16.7 million contract. The deal includes $13.125 million guaranteed. Another $6.3 million is available through incentives. The Broncos can exercise an option year in 2014 by paying Moreno $5.08 million. 2010: Under Contract (+ $3.775 million roster bonus due in March), 2011-2013: Under Contract, 2014: Club Option, 2015: Free Agent

How often has the opposite been the case in other years?I don't recall many times where RFA's went to new teams. Isn't that a rarity?

How about Steve Hutchinson and Nate Burleson a few years ago?In professional sports, a poison pill is a component of a contract, which one team offers a player, that makes it difficult or impossible for another team (which has the right of first refusal) to match. While it can often refer to a salary structure or clause that would affect all teams equally, it has taken on a new specific meaning of a clause that has unbalanced impact. For example, in March 2006, the Minnesota Vikings offered Steve Hutchinson, an offensive guard with the Seattle Seahawks, a seven-year, $49 million contract of which $16 million was guaranteed. This contract offer had two poison pills in it. One was the salary structure, which would require the team to pay $13 million in the first year of the contract. That salary structure would apply to both teams equally, as the Seahawks would also have to pay $13 million in the first contract year, were they to match the offer. The second was a clause that required Hutchinson to be the highest paid player on the offensive line, or else the entire contract would be guaranteed. Since the Seahawks had another offensive lineman, Walter Jones, with a higher salary and the Vikings did not, this clause would have required the Seahawks to guarantee $49 million, and it effectively eliminated the Seahawks' opportunity to match the contract offer.

In the wake of this contract offer, similar clauses have appeared in other contract offers, including a contract offered to Vikings wide receiver Nate Burleson by the Seahawks, which, with irony fully intended, was structured as a seven year, $49 million deal. The contract given to Burleson had two vengeful poison pill clauses in response to the contract offered to Hutchinson. Firstly, it stipulated that if Burleson were to play five or more games in the state of Minnesota during any single season over the life of the contract, the entire $49 million would become guaranteed. Secondly, if Burleson were to earn more per year on average than all of his team's running backs combined, the $49 million would be guaranteed. Since the Vikings play half of their games at home in Minnesota, and their running backs combined earned less per year than the $7 million in Burleson's contract, Minnesota was unable to match it.

 

[Ted Lange as your Bartender]

Mike Bell was an RFA that changed teams - didn't cost the Eagles a draft pick however since the Saints tender was so low