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NFL Records that will never be broken (1 Viewer)

Reasons why this will never be broken:

1) In the last 20 years, only two kickers have missed fourteen field goals and none have missed fifteen.

2) Since '00, only three kickers have missed twelve or more; Rian Lindell and Seth Marler in their first full NFL seasons and Kris Brown in the year Heinz Field opened.

The odds of anyone missing 20 FG in a season are very remote; the odds of someone breaking the current record are infinitesimal.

 
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I don't have a guess to this one, but I just wanted to add that years ago, Mark Mosely for the Redskins had the record for consecutive kicks in a row, and the kick that he missed, my older brother caught it at RFK, I thought that was pretty neat.

I would have to guess that the kicker who owns the record for misses has to be a straight on kicker, not a soccer style kicker?

 
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Runner up award for lowest FG% goes to Bob Timberlake, who has a fascinating Wikipedia page:

After being a star QB and all around football player at Michigan and hero of the Rose Bowl, he was drafted by the Giants.

The New York Giants drafted Timberlake in the third round of the 1965 NFL Draft. He signed a two-year contract with the Giants for an estimated $85,000 ($12,500 per year base plus $60,000 in bonuses and fringe benefits). Future Pro Football Hall of Famer Y.A. Tittle’s tenure with the Giants was over, and Timberlake was expected to compete in a new system that would emphasize rushing quarterbacks.

Timberlake did not get the quarterback spot with the Giants and was assigned to kickoff and to convert any long field goals for the 1965 NFL season. In a nationally televised game on October 3, 1965, at Pittsburgh, Timberlake hit a 43-yard field goal in a 23–13 win. Timberlake’s kick against the Pittsburgh Steelers was the last field goal by any Giants kicker that season.

Early in an October 24 game against the Cleveland Browns, the Giants' main placekicker twisted an ankle. Timberlake took over as the team’s full-time kicker until the season’s final week. Timberlake went 0-for-14 in field goal attempts for the rest of the season, and three of his shorter attempts were blocked. Though he went 1-for-15 in field goal attempts, Timberlake converted all but one of his extra points. After his one miss, he said: "I’m the guy who put the suspense back in the extra point."

In the 1966 pre-season, Timberlake was third on the Giants' depth chart at quarterback. In the September 1966 issue of the Sporting News, Timberlake lamented: "I’m not doing anything. For four days the other week, I didn’t throw a single pass. Not a single pass." After just one season, the Giants cut Timberlake from the team on August 29, 1966, at their camp in Fairfield, Connecticut.

In an article concluding that Timberlake may have been the worst placekicker in NFL history, the writer concluded: "Timberlake’s 1-for-15 performance makes him look like a laughingstock. He’s better remembered as one of Michigan’s great quarterbacks, a Rose Bowl hero who might have had what it took to be a fine pro quarterback or running back. It’s a shame he was asked to do what he couldn’t."
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On a related note, Boris Shlapak holds the record for most attempts without a field goal made -- he went 0/8 in 1972. He went to Michigan State. He did convert all four of his extra point attempts.
 
My first thought was the '76 Bucs, then of course I realized there was no way they'd have gotten that many attempts, much less misses.

(For the record, they were even ugly in the field goal percentage department as they were 8/17)

not to hijack, but 107.4 passing yards per game (1503 passing yards total), the exact same number as their total rushing yards per game has to be some sort of record in the modern era, no?

-QG

 
Chase Stuart said:
valhallan said:
Chase Stuart said:
valhallan said:
Bruce Gossett, 23 in '67?
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I really don't even want to know how you knew that, but the answer is no. He comes in second, though.
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Ah.. Hornung, 26 in '64
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:confused: I should have added a caveat: my kicker database is not complete, especially from pre-1965 or so. So it's possible that someone missed 27 kicks in 1958 or something. But Hornung was the answer I was looking for.
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Hornung would give you 10-1 odds he has the record
 
Horning's horrible kicking in '64 might well have cost the Packers a shot at yet another championship. In Green Bay's first meeting with the Baltimore Colts that season Horning missed an extra point and the Pack lost 21-20. In the second meeting Horning missed two field goals and his team lost 24-21. Had Green Bay won both games and swept the Colts, the Packers would have won the Western Conference by half a game and played for the NFL title in 1964.

In checking out Hornung's stats I see a leg injury to Hornung forced the Packers to use Jerry Kramer as their kicker for a good chunk of the 1962 season. Kramer was great, making 9 of 11 FG's plus he kicked three in horrible weather conditions in the 1962 NFL Championship Game. His team won 16-7. Thanks to Hornung's gambling suspension the next year (wittily alluded to by Tremendous Upside), Green Bay used Kramer as their full-time kicker in '63 but he returned to earth making only 16 of 34. Of course Hornung was even worse than that in '64 and Lombardi must have had enough, bringing in a legitimate kicker, Don Chandler, for their 1965-1967 championship seasons.

 
I found an interesting piece about the Packers' 1964 season here at JS Online. Reading it ought to convince anybody Hornung's 1964 season was the worst season any kicker's ever had. I was wrong in my previous post when I said Hornung missed two FG's against the Colts in their second meeting of 1964. He actually missed five! Here's a list of Hornung's kicking "accomplishments" of 1964:

Week Two: Hornung misses an extra point against the Colts. Packers lose by one.

Week Four: Packers lose to Vikings 24-23. Hornung has an extra point try blocked allowing Vikings to win with a late FG.

Week Six: The aforementioned five-miss game against the Colts. Up 21-17 late, Hornung missed a 47-yarder that the Colts returned 36 yards. They scored a TD with just over a minute left to beat the Packers 24-21.

Week Seven: Hornung misses two FG's against the Rams. The Rams return the second miss 94 yards for the go-ahead touchdown and beat the Pack 27-17 after trailing 17-0. The loss drops Green Bay to 3-4, three games behind the Colts.

Week Ten: Hornung misses three field goals and has another blocked. The Packers and Rams tie 24-24.

So 26 missed FG's, only two missed extra points but both misses critical ones, and a team good enough to win championships in 1965, 1966, and 1967 finishes 8-5-1, 3.5 games behind the Colts. It's Green Bay's worst season since 1959, Lombardi's first year as coach.

 
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I used to think Johnny Unitas record of 47 straight games throwing a TD would never be broken. A string that stood unchallenged for a half century until Drew Brees broke it. One advantage Brees had was playing a longer regular season schedule and completed the task in one less season than Unitas. Brees' streak ran from 2009-2012 and ended at 54 games. Unitas streak ran from 1956-1960 playing a 12 game regular season schedule. The league didn't expand to 14 games until 1961-1977, then 16 games after that, until another expansion of the schedule later.

Some records that will be hard to break, among many others, are:
D'Brickashaw Ferguson's 160 consecutive regular season starts, and never missing a game in his career.
George Blanda playing 26 seasons
Most consecutive starts Brett Favre - 297
 
Of course, Jerry Rice has about a dozen or more records that may never be broken. Notably receptions, receiving TDs and total Rec Yards

His 22 TDs in a 12 game (shortened) season is also herculean.

He is so far above his contemporaries and other 'greats' before and after that he is arguably the greatest player to ever suit up.
 
TheWinz said:
James Wilder's 492 touches will never be broken. He averaged 30.75 touches for an entire season.
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Terrell Davis holds the record for most touches in a single regular season and post season combined (531). Not sure if that should be considered unbreakable . . . but that's a ton of touches.
 
Evil G said:
Of course, Jerry Rice has about a dozen or more records that may never be broken. Notably receptions, receiving TDs and total Rec Yards

His 22 TDs in a 12 game (shortened) season is also herculean.

He is so far above his contemporaries and other 'greats' before and after that he is arguably the greatest player to ever suit up.
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Rice's stats don't compare to Don Hutson when talking about being far above his contemporaries.
- Hutson was THE WR1 for 10 straight years
- In 1942, he had as many catches and TD's as the next 3 WR's combined

Don't get me wrong. Rice is a phenom, but Hutson had multiple seasons where he doubled, and even tripled, the stats of the other WR's of his time. Rice never even came close to doubling the league in a given year. His closest was obviously the 1987 season where he scored an amazing 22 TD's, but in that year, he had 65/1078/22 = 304.8. The next 2 WR's combined would've been JT Smith and Gary Clark, with 147/2183/15 = 455.3
 
TheWinz said:
Evil G said:
Of course, Jerry Rice has about a dozen or more records that may never be broken. Notably receptions, receiving TDs and total Rec Yards

His 22 TDs in a 12 game (shortened) season is also herculean.

He is so far above his contemporaries and other 'greats' before and after that he is arguably the greatest player to ever suit up.
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Rice's stats don't compare to Don Hutson when talking about being far above his contemporaries.
- Hutson was THE WR1 for 10 straight years
- In 1942, he had as many catches and TD's as the next 3 WR's combined

Don't get me wrong. Rice is a phenom, but Hutson had multiple seasons where he doubled, and even tripled, the stats of the other WR's of his time. Rice never even came close to doubling the league in a given year. His closest was obviously the 1987 season where he scored an amazing 22 TD's, but in that year, he had 65/1078/22 = 304.8. The next 2 WR's combined would've been JT Smith and Gary Clark, with 147/2183/15 = 455.3
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I like Hudson as much as the next guy, but it's harder to get behind a player that was an innovator and the first of a kind. Back in 1942, only 5 QB in the league averaged more than 5 completions in a game. Hudson averaged almost 7 receptions per game that season. By comparison, that's the equivalent of a WR hauling in 400 receptions in a season in today's game. Defenses weren't astute enough to come up with a game plan to defend the pass . . . and the majority of teams in the league hadn't really integrated the pass much yet. Hudson's receiving yardage total on his own was more than 4 teams. His TD total was more than every franchise but one (and he was only 2 behind). Hudson's numbers were great for his time, but if you transported him to 2024, he would not be lapping the field in receiving categories.

Sort of like Babe Ruth when he outhomered the next 3 or 4 guys on the home run list early in his career. Players weren't hitting many home runs, and pitchers weren't equipped to prevent home runs. Put Ruth in today's game, and he wouldn't be hitting 150 HR in a season (which was the order of magnitude that he was hitting home runs compared to others). With the modernization of pitching, conditioning, etc., he might not come close to the numbers he put up then. He was great in the day, though.

I get it, it's not a player's fault for doing well at the time he played. IMO, what Rice did was more impressive than what Hudson did. Rice was the top receiver for years (and one of the best for an extended stretch on top of it) in a time when there were a ton of other talented receivers. There's way more competition and more talent in the league now. In 1942, there was only one other player that averaged 40 receiving yards per game. Last year there were 69. Hudson was great, no doubt about it, but it's not like there were many other guys that were around to challenge him.
 
Anarchy99 said:
I like Hudson as much as the next guy, but it's harder to get behind a player that was an innovator and the first of a kind. Back in 1942, only 5 QB in the league averaged more than 5 completions in a game. Hudson averaged almost 7 receptions per game that season. By comparison, that's the equivalent of a WR hauling in 400 receptions in a season in today's game. Defenses weren't astute enough to come up with a game plan to defend the pass . . . and the majority of teams in the league hadn't really integrated the pass much yet. Hudson's receiving yardage total on his own was more than 4 teams. His TD total was more than every franchise but one (and he was only 2 behind). Hudson's numbers were great for his time, but if you transported him to 2024, he would not be lapping the field in receiving categories.

Sort of like Babe Ruth when he outhomered the next 3 or 4 guys on the home run list early in his career. Players weren't hitting many home runs, and pitchers weren't equipped to prevent home runs. Put Ruth in today's game, and he wouldn't be hitting 150 HR in a season (which was the order of magnitude that he was hitting home runs compared to others). With the modernization of pitching, conditioning, etc., he might not come close to the numbers he put up then. He was great in the day, though.

I get it, it's not a player's fault for doing well at the time he played. IMO, what Rice did was more impressive than what Hudson did. Rice was the top receiver for years (and one of the best for an extended stretch on top of it) in a time when there were a ton of other talented receivers. There's way more competition and more talent in the league now. In 1942, there was only one other player that averaged 40 receiving yards per game. Last year there were 69. Hudson was great, no doubt about it, but it's not like there were many other guys that were around to challenge him.
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I only mentioned Hutson because "He was so far above his contemporaries". But if you look at his stats, only a few really stand out.
- 99 TD's in only 488 receptions. He is still #11 all-time in TD's while being 187th in receptions.
- TD per game ratio. 99 TD's in only 116 games. At that rate, Rice would need 61 more TD's to keep pace.
- His 1942 season easily compares with Rice's 1987 season. In fact, Hutson played 1 less game, but had 9 more catches and 133 more yards.

Once again, Rice is a phenom, and is widely known as the best WR of all time. But to dismiss Hutson because he didn't have as much competition is unfair. His 99 receiving TD's stood as the record until Steve Largent caught his 100th 44 years later. Comparing players from different eras has always been an exercise in futility.
 
TheWinz said:
Evil G said:
Of course, Jerry Rice has about a dozen or more records that may never be broken. Notably receptions, receiving TDs and total Rec Yards

His 22 TDs in a 12 game (shortened) season is also herculean.

He is so far above his contemporaries and other 'greats' before and after that he is arguably the greatest player to ever suit up.
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Rice's stats don't compare to Don Hutson when talking about being far above his contemporaries.
- Hutson was THE WR1 for 10 straight years
- In 1942, he had as many catches and TD's as the next 3 WR's combined

Don't get me wrong. Rice is a phenom, but Hutson had multiple seasons where he doubled, and even tripled, the stats of the other WR's of his time. Rice never even came close to doubling the league in a given year. His closest was obviously the 1987 season where he scored an amazing 22 TD's, but in that year, he had 65/1078/22 = 304.8. The next 2 WR's combined would've been JT Smith and Gary Clark, with 147/2183/15 = 455.3
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Our league trophy is named after him.
 
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I found an interesting piece about the Packers' 1964 season here at JS Online. Reading it ought to convince anybody Hornung's 1964 season was the worst season any kicker's ever had. I was wrong in my previous post when I said Hornung missed two FG's against the Colts in their second meeting of 1964. He actually missed five! Here's a list of Hornung's kicking "accomplishments" of 1964:

Week Two: Hornung misses an extra point against the Colts. Packers lose by one.

Week Four: Packers lose to Vikings 24-23. Hornung has an extra point try blocked allowing Vikings to win with a late FG.

Week Six: The aforementioned five-miss game against the Colts. Up 21-17 late, Hornung missed a 47-yarder that the Colts returned 36 yards. They scored a TD with just over a minute left to beat the Packers 24-21.

Week Seven: Hornung misses two FG's against the Rams. The Rams return the second miss 94 yards for the go-ahead touchdown and beat the Pack 27-17 after trailing 17-0. The loss drops Green Bay to 3-4, three games behind the Colts.

Week Ten: Hornung misses three field goals and has another blocked. The Packers and Rams tie 24-24.

So 26 missed FG's, only two missed extra points but both misses critical ones, and a team good enough to win championships in 1965, 1966, and 1967 finishes 8-5-1, 3.5 games behind the Colts. It's Green Bay's worst season since 1959, Lombardi's first year as coach.
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Was he ever accused of point shaving?
 
In the final eight games of the 1976 regular season, the Steelers defense gave up a total of 22 points. They pitched five shutouts and in two other games they gave up only 3 points. Somehow the Oilers hung up 16 points in a valiant loss midway through this incredible defensive run.
 
After seeing what Carolina did this week I'll say The Bucs record of 26 consecutive losses will never be broken.
And I'll throw in The Buffalo Bills record of losing four consecutive Super Bowls will never be broken,just GETTING to four straight Super Bowls will be tough.
 
pecorino said:
In the final eight games of the 1976 regular season, the Steelers defense gave up a total of 22 points. They pitched five shutouts and in two other games they gave up only 3 points. Somehow the Oilers hung up 16 points in a valiant loss midway through this incredible defensive run.
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The Buccaneers were part of that streak (42-0) in their inaugural season. Just one of many records in an astounding display of ineptitude that caused the league to overcompensate so much that both expansion teams in the 90s (Panthers and Jaguars) reached the conference championship games in their second seasons.

I know this was about the Steelers, but the Buccaneers were so bad in 1976 that they impacted franchises in the 90s.
 
I don't think I ever put it in this thread but definitely would regard the Rams scoring 3 safeties against the Giants in ONE QUARTER is surely unbreakable. (It is also the record for number of safeties scored by one team in a game)

-QG
 
QuizGuy66 said:
I don't think I ever put it in this thread but definitely would regard the Rams scoring 3 safeties against the Giants in ONE QUARTER is surely unbreakable. (It is also the record for number of safeties scored by one team in a game)

-QG
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Neil Beaufort Zod said:
pecorino said:
In the final eight games of the 1976 regular season, the Steelers defense gave up a total of 22 points. They pitched five shutouts and in two other games they gave up only 3 points. Somehow the Oilers hung up 16 points in a valiant loss midway through this incredible defensive run.
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The Buccaneers were part of that streak (42-0) in their inaugural season. Just one of many records in an astounding display of ineptitude that caused the league to overcompensate so much that both expansion teams in the 90s (Panthers and Jaguars) reached the conference championship games in their second seasons.

I know this was about the Steelers, but the Buccaneers were so bad in 1976 that they impacted franchises in the 90s.
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There were 4 expansion teams in the 90's and not all of them did good right away.
 
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