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NFL To Make 'Coaches Film' Available To Fans

by Ryan Van Bibber • Jun 15, 2012 1:14 PM EDT

Die hard football fans, the kind of fans that like to dig into the details of the game's Xs and Os may have experienced heart palpitations on Friday morning. The NFL announced, after years of begging and cajoling from fans, that it will make "Coaches Film" available through its Game Rewind feature, which allows fans to watch archived broadcasts of each and every NFL game.

Coaches Film shows the entire field of play, a bird's eye view of all 22 players on the field and what they are doing, or not doing in some cases. Utilizing a number of different camera angles it facilitates a better understanding of what transpires all over field rather than the television broadcast which typically follows possession of the ball.

This is what teams use to breakdown plays, evaluate players and all those other things that get lumped into the term "watching film."

The Coaches Film is included in the premium Game Rewind package, available for a $60 subscription. For many, it will be a small price to pay considered the demand from football fans over the years. It might also prove to be a very lucrative offering from the NFL, as the league wades further and further into the waters of technological innovations to enhance the fan experience.

 
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Matt Waldman will be excited I expect.

It's a great idea and I think it'd generate more revenue than the "Big Hits" videos that they are trying to get away from. I expect there's a huge market of fans that want more X's and O's rather than Tebow updates.

 
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Matt Waldman will be excited I expect.
The guys at Football Outsiders, Pro Football Focus, CHFF and etc are going to be over the moon with this. Will change how fans watch and think about the game IMO. Wouldn't be surprised if having folks get used to seeing plays from this angle eventually leads to the NFL showing this angle on replays too.
 
SEASON PLUS

Watch full replays of every 2012 Regular Season and Playoff game including Super Bowl XLVII, Coaches Film for every play in 2012, and any 2009-2012 games through the entire Offseason.

Access through Jul 31, 2013.

:popcorn:

 
Matt Waldman will be excited I expect.
The guys at Football Outsiders, Pro Football Focus, CHFF and etc are going to be over the moon with this. Will change how fans watch and think about the game IMO. Wouldn't be surprised if having folks get used to seeing plays from this angle eventually leads to the NFL showing this angle on replays too.
this is a great idea. :thumbup: even the casual fan will appreciate this type of replay look at the game.as far as the game film on rewind, im in. sounds like $60 is a great deal.
 
'dehaven123 said:
this is a great idea. :thumbup: even the casual fan will appreciate this type of replay look at the game.as far as the game film on rewind, im in. sounds like $60 is a great deal.
Or $40 if you only want this "coaches tape" on "select plays", and don't care about 2012 playoff games as you'll be watching them live anyway (like me).2012 preseason access also came online today, looks to be another $20. If I recall, I got a discount for the regular season after paying for the preseason, anyone had similar luck this year?
 
I've always disliked the fact that the TV feed zooms in on the ball when the QB drops back to pass ...and you have no idea whats happening down field.

So much better watching it live (or next best, the coaches film) and seeing what the QB is seeing.

 
'dehaven123 said:
this is a great idea. :thumbup: even the casual fan will appreciate this type of replay look at the game.as far as the game film on rewind, im in. sounds like $60 is a great deal.
Or $40 if you only want this "coaches tape" on "select plays", and don't care about 2012 playoff games as you'll be watching them live anyway (like me).2012 preseason access also came online today, looks to be another $20. If I recall, I got a discount for the regular season after paying for the preseason, anyone had similar luck this year?
nice :popcorn:
 
That's a great deal. I expected it to cost a lot more than that. It's basically only $20 if you were going to get Game Rewind anyway. (And only $10 more than Game Rewind cost last year.)

 
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That's a great deal. I expected it to cost a lot more than that. It's basically only $20 if you were going to get Game Rewind anyway. (And only $10 more than Game Rewind cost last year.)
And I'm hoping that one of those packages will have a discount if you also get the preseason package (which I will). As I mentioned, I did get a discount last year, but I think it was a promo code that came up AFTER I purchased the preseason package.
 
'zed2283 said:
Did they reinstate the feature that allows you to pick a player and see all their plays?
No mention of it, I wouldn't get my hopes up.
Maybe a good thing to send NFL.com an email about? If they have enough interest, maybe they'll bring it back.This feature sounds awesome too:"Condensed Games - Watch every play of an entire game in roughly 30 minutes - no commercials, no huddles, no timeouts, no downtime."
 
i am expecting it to have base of hardcore football fans, but average Joe fans tend to follow the ball and are not that into watching replays of games so they can see safety play. personally, I am glad the NFL is doing it, but i would be surprised if it had any instant impact on how most of the world watchees football.

 
Coaches film available for every play on NFL Rewind

By Gregg Rosenthal

Around The League editor

It is a banner day for people that love football to an unhealthy degree. Word leaked out on Friday that "All-22" coaches film will be available for every play on NFL Game Rewind this year.

Yes, we confirmed this news with the appropriate NFL overlords before posting. You'll have a few options to watch the games. You can watch the games using the broadcast feed with the to option to click on the coaches film on any play. Or you can just go all coaches film, all the time. That's all we ever wanted.

Well, we also asked for Game Rewind to be available on tablets. That wish will come true too for iPads and Android devices. We also heard about another very cool feature that has yet to be revealed as well.

Some reaction on Twitter:

Seth Payne

@PayneNFL

2012 coaches film will be available on NFL Rewind. I know a few guys that had to change their underwear after seeing that.

Adam Caplan

@caplannfl

And the great thing is you can slow each play down and rewind, etc. Great to see play development. Time has finally come for this.

There was coaches film available on Game Rewind last year, but it was only there for a portion of the plays. It was a tease. Getting every play offers fans a chance to see what coaches and players see. It could even lead to better analysis on ATL. We just need to find the time to watch everything.This post may seem like an extended advertisement for an NFL product written on NFL.com. That would be accurate. But I've been a Game Rewind addict for years before I arrived here and will remain one years after they come to their senses and fire me.

And I know a lot of you folks out there are as excited as I am.
What is the feature that "has yet to be revealed"? Could it be the ability to zero in on specific players?

 
This isn't entirely on topic, but could anyone who had Game Rewind last year tell me how soon Monday and Thursday night games were available to watch after the conclusion of the game? Were they made available the night of the game or did you need to wait until the next day to view them on Game Rewind?

 
Until they bring back the ability to search a game and show all plays by that player, I will not be subscribing.

 
This isn't entirely on topic, but could anyone who had Game Rewind last year tell me how soon Monday and Thursday night games were available to watch after the conclusion of the game? Were they made available the night of the game or did you need to wait until the next day to view them on Game Rewind?
Normally you could start them about an hour or two after the games conclusion. Most of the time I'd be watching it live though, so it would be the next day at the earliest that I wanted to see it again. The rule of thumb is that NO GAME is available if ANY NFL game is being played at the time (so you couldn't watch Sunday's games during Monday night football).
 
This isn't entirely on topic, but could anyone who had Game Rewind last year tell me how soon Monday and Thursday night games were available to watch after the conclusion of the game? Were they made available the night of the game or did you need to wait until the next day to view them on Game Rewind?
Normally you could start them about an hour or two after the games conclusion. Most of the time I'd be watching it live though, so it would be the next day at the earliest that I wanted to see it again. The rule of thumb is that NO GAME is available if ANY NFL game is being played at the time (so you couldn't watch Sunday's games during Monday night football).
Thanks for the response! I won't be able to watch the Monday and Thursday night games live this season, so I was hoping to view them each week using Game Rewind without knowing the result beforehand. Obviously that becomes more difficult if there is a long time between the conclusion of the game and when the games are available on Game Rewind, so I'm glad to hear it happens relatively quickly.
 
Thanks for the thread on this, signed up for the full monty. I wish they could put the announcer audio onto the coaches film, but I understand why they don't.

All 22 is going to be awesome as we move to IDP dynasty..

 
'plastik said:
Maybe a good thing to send NFL.com an email about? If they have enough interest, maybe they'll bring it back.This feature sounds awesome too:"Condensed Games - Watch every play of an entire game in roughly 30 minutes - no commercials, no huddles, no timeouts, no downtime."
I love having condensed games. During the pre-lockout season I'd have to press fast forward once or twice for each play (depending on game situation) and hope not miss the snap. That caused the feed to buffer occasionally and it was annoying. Now it streams very well and is a lot less work. If there's a play you want to full commentary on, note the time of game, click on "full" and click to the time. If you want to go back to the condensed feed, it'll remember your spot in the game.I emailed them last year about the player filter, they said that it wasn't available and to find plays on nfl.com instead. I was hoping it was a consequence of the lockout, but it doesn't seem like it's back yet.Having tablet capability is a great step.
 
I've never purchased this feature before so I was just wondering when should I buy this feature? If I buy it now, does it cover all of the 2013 season or are they only selling last season right now?

 
I've never purchased this feature before so I was just wondering when should I buy this feature? If I buy it now, does it cover all of the 2013 season or are they only selling last season right now?
If you buy it now, it will cover all of the 2012 season, and you'll also have access to 2009-2011.
 
I went ahead and subscribed yesterday, mainly so I could try this out on my Google TV box...all I can say is wow, it is awesome on GTV :thumbup: . It's almost worth the cost of a Logitech Revue all by itself, IMO (got mine as a refurb for $75). Any game replay in full screen HD on my TV, and the fast forward/rewind controls for GTV automatically jump to the next play or back to the previous play. Watched 3 condensed games last night and it worked flawlessly.

 
I went ahead and subscribed yesterday, mainly so I could try this out on my Google TV box...all I can say is wow, it is awesome on GTV :thumbup: . It's almost worth the cost of a Logitech Revue all by itself, IMO (got mine as a refurb for $75). Any game replay in full screen HD on my TV, and the fast forward/rewind controls for GTV automatically jump to the next play or back to the previous play. Watched 3 condensed games last night and it worked flawlessly.
Great to know it's working out for you! Did you subscribe to the full featured plan (for $60 I think) or the next step down? Were you by chance given a discount promo code to also get the preseason live package?
 
I went ahead and subscribed yesterday, mainly so I could try this out on my Google TV box...all I can say is wow, it is awesome on GTV :thumbup: . It's almost worth the cost of a Logitech Revue all by itself, IMO (got mine as a refurb for $75). Any game replay in full screen HD on my TV, and the fast forward/rewind controls for GTV automatically jump to the next play or back to the previous play. Watched 3 condensed games last night and it worked flawlessly.
Great to know it's working out for you! Did you subscribe to the full featured plan (for $60 I think) or the next step down? Were you by chance given a discount promo code to also get the preseason live package?
Thanks...yeah, I went for the full "Season Plus" plan (now $70...oh well). No promo code, is there one out there for preseason live? If so, I might call and see if they'll let me add it since it's only been a day since I subscribed.
 
I went ahead and subscribed yesterday, mainly so I could try this out on my Google TV box...all I can say is wow, it is awesome on GTV :thumbup: . It's almost worth the cost of a Logitech Revue all by itself, IMO (got mine as a refurb for $75). Any game replay in full screen HD on my TV, and the fast forward/rewind controls for GTV automatically jump to the next play or back to the previous play. Watched 3 condensed games last night and it worked flawlessly.
Great to know it's working out for you! Did you subscribe to the full featured plan (for $60 I think) or the next step down? Were you by chance given a discount promo code to also get the preseason live package?
Thanks...yeah, I went for the full "Season Plus" plan (now $70...oh well). No promo code, is there one out there for preseason live? If so, I might call and see if they'll let me add it since it's only been a day since I subscribed.
Well, last year I purchased the preseason live package first. Doing that gave me a promo code for the game rewind. I think I got the pair for $50 last year. As the $40 game rewind package still claims to have some plays with the "coaches film all 22 shot", I think I'll just get that one again.
 
when do the replays become available for viewing? the following day, in a week or at the end of the year?
Sunday's games are available late Sunday night. (IIRC, about 11 pm Pacific, so about 2 am Eastern — something like that).
 
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NFL opens Pandora's Box by offering All-22 tape to public

By Michael Lombardi NFL Network

Front Office View

When I was working for the Cleveland Browns back in the early 1990s, then-owner Art Modell routinely asked me questions after each game. He always prefaced them with a declaration: "Now, kid, you know I am not second-guessing, but rather first-guessing ... " With the NFL allowing fans to view the All-22 film this season, I have a feeling there is going to be plenty of first-guessing in every NFL city after every game all season long.

Yogi Berra once said, "You can see a lot just by observing." With the All-22 tape -- a staple in coaching circles which quite simply allows the viewer to see all 22 players on the field at the same time, as opposed to just following the ball -- observations will be made across America. But here's the fundamental question: From this influx of observations, will the right conclusions be drawn?

It is one thing to simply watch the All-22 coverage. It is quite another to understand what is really happening on the field. There are people in some personnel departments across the league who will watch the All-22 and not be certain which players deserve blame and which ones deserve praise. This is not a knock on personnel folks, but rather a tribute to the complexities involved in just one football play.

Professional football has become a game of high-level chess. Therefore, if the people critiquing the All-22 tape are not well-versed in the strategy, the potential for misinformation becomes even greater. Bottom line: Mondays in the NFL just got worse for all the coaches who lose on Sundays.

Early in my career, I drove Hall of Fame 49ers coach Bill Walsh around in his car. Oftentimes, our conversations centered on my goals -- how I could reach them, and what I ultimately wanted to become. At that time, I thought I really knew the game of football. But in reality, each time I viewed the All-22, I was just watching film. Not studying, not improving, not learning. Just running the machine. As Coach Walsh would tell me, I did not understand the play, so I couldn't correctly evaluate the player. Each time you watch the All-22, you must be able to simultaneously assess the play and the player to understand both. This is not easy for some in the NFL, let alone fans who want to access the coaches' tape.

And therein lies the problem with All-22 tape becoming available to the general public, particularly when it comes to passing plays. Someone will be open and many fans will assume that the quarterback did not make the right read or was locked onto another receiver. Yet in reality there is a progression on every pass play -- based on the coverage -- that a quarterback must rely on to determine who gets the ball. What might appear to be open on the All-22 might not be on the progression.

Correctly studying the All-22 requires a complete understanding of schemes -- both offensive and defensive -- and what each player is supposed to do on each play. Let's go back to the example mentioned above, where it appears a receiver is open, but the quarterback does not get him the ball. The viewer must know the coverage and understand the principles of the coverage -- what looks like man at times can really be matchup zone -- before determining whether the quarterback really missed a potential target. Computing all of this information is very difficult if you are not in the meetings each day, not around the team and not privy to the playbook.

By allowing everyone to see the All-22 film, the NFL has opened up Pandora's Box -- which is fine, as long as everyone understands that many observations are going to be wrong.

Fans should want to watch football from the coaches' viewpoint, as it will help broaden their knowledge of the game, allowing them to see more than just where the ball is going. But be careful what conclusions are drawn and always preface your observations like my old boss Art Modell did, with a "first guess."
 
i am expecting it to have base of hardcore football fans, but average Joe fans tend to follow the ball and are not that into watching replays of games so they can see safety play. personally, I am glad the NFL is doing it, but i would be surprised if it had any instant impact on how most of the world watchees football.
Maybe not, but I'm pretty sure that 10 years ago no one thought they'd be running fantasy stats along the ticker throughout the entire game, or have a 90-minute fantasy-specific pregrame show on ESPN either. Think this could be more popular than people expect. And to follow up on Lombardi's post above -- I think fans would love to have former NFL coaches breaking down plays from that angle during the game.
 
NFL opens Pandora's Box by offering All-22 tape to public

By Michael Lombardi NFL Network

Front Office View

When I was working for the Cleveland Browns back in the early 1990s, then-owner Art Modell routinely asked me questions after each game. He always prefaced them with a declaration: "Now, kid, you know I am not second-guessing, but rather first-guessing ... " With the NFL allowing fans to view the All-22 film this season, I have a feeling there is going to be plenty of first-guessing in every NFL city after every game all season long.

Yogi Berra once said, "You can see a lot just by observing." With the All-22 tape -- a staple in coaching circles which quite simply allows the viewer to see all 22 players on the field at the same time, as opposed to just following the ball -- observations will be made across America. But here's the fundamental question: From this influx of observations, will the right conclusions be drawn?

It is one thing to simply watch the All-22 coverage. It is quite another to understand what is really happening on the field. There are people in some personnel departments across the league who will watch the All-22 and not be certain which players deserve blame and which ones deserve praise. This is not a knock on personnel folks, but rather a tribute to the complexities involved in just one football play.

Professional football has become a game of high-level chess. Therefore, if the people critiquing the All-22 tape are not well-versed in the strategy, the potential for misinformation becomes even greater. Bottom line: Mondays in the NFL just got worse for all the coaches who lose on Sundays.

Early in my career, I drove Hall of Fame 49ers coach Bill Walsh around in his car. Oftentimes, our conversations centered on my goals -- how I could reach them, and what I ultimately wanted to become. At that time, I thought I really knew the game of football. But in reality, each time I viewed the All-22, I was just watching film. Not studying, not improving, not learning. Just running the machine. As Coach Walsh would tell me, I did not understand the play, so I couldn't correctly evaluate the player. Each time you watch the All-22, you must be able to simultaneously assess the play and the player to understand both. This is not easy for some in the NFL, let alone fans who want to access the coaches' tape.

And therein lies the problem with All-22 tape becoming available to the general public, particularly when it comes to passing plays. Someone will be open and many fans will assume that the quarterback did not make the right read or was locked onto another receiver. Yet in reality there is a progression on every pass play -- based on the coverage -- that a quarterback must rely on to determine who gets the ball. What might appear to be open on the All-22 might not be on the progression.

Correctly studying the All-22 requires a complete understanding of schemes -- both offensive and defensive -- and what each player is supposed to do on each play. Let's go back to the example mentioned above, where it appears a receiver is open, but the quarterback does not get him the ball. The viewer must know the coverage and understand the principles of the coverage -- what looks like man at times can really be matchup zone -- before determining whether the quarterback really missed a potential target. Computing all of this information is very difficult if you are not in the meetings each day, not around the team and not privy to the playbook.

By allowing everyone to see the All-22 film, the NFL has opened up Pandora's Box -- which is fine, as long as everyone understands that many observations are going to be wrong.

Fans should want to watch football from the coaches' viewpoint, as it will help broaden their knowledge of the game, allowing them to see more than just where the ball is going. But be careful what conclusions are drawn and always preface your observations like my old boss Art Modell did, with a "first guess."
Yes, you lowly peasants may now have access to the Holy Grail that we've kept hidden in our ivory towers for years, but you mere serfs are too ignorant to know what to do with it. We must now suffer through ridiculously shallow and unintelligent opinions as we try to enlighten the world with the actual truth, which only we can divine.
 
Yes, you lowly peasants may now have access to the Holy Grail that we've kept hidden in our ivory towers for years, but you mere serfs are too ignorant to know what to do with it. We must now suffer through ridiculously shallow and unintelligent opinions as we try to enlighten the world with the actual truth, which only we can divine.
Pretty much how it sounded to me too.
 
Yes, you lowly peasants may now have access to the Holy Grail that we've kept hidden in our ivory towers for years, but you mere serfs are too ignorant to know what to do with it. We must now suffer through ridiculously shallow and unintelligent opinions as we try to enlighten the world with the actual truth, which only we can divine.
Pretty much how it sounded to me too.
:goodposting: :yes:
 
NFL opens Pandora's Box by offering All-22 tape to public

By Michael Lombardi NFL Network

Front Office View

When I was working for the Cleveland Browns back in the early 1990s, then-owner Art Modell routinely asked me questions after each game. He always prefaced them with a declaration: "Now, kid, you know I am not second-guessing, but rather first-guessing ... " With the NFL allowing fans to view the All-22 film this season, I have a feeling there is going to be plenty of first-guessing in every NFL city after every game all season long.

Yogi Berra once said, "You can see a lot just by observing." With the All-22 tape -- a staple in coaching circles which quite simply allows the viewer to see all 22 players on the field at the same time, as opposed to just following the ball -- observations will be made across America. But here's the fundamental question: From this influx of observations, will the right conclusions be drawn?

It is one thing to simply watch the All-22 coverage. It is quite another to understand what is really happening on the field. There are people in some personnel departments across the league who will watch the All-22 and not be certain which players deserve blame and which ones deserve praise. This is not a knock on personnel folks, but rather a tribute to the complexities involved in just one football play.

Professional football has become a game of high-level chess. Therefore, if the people critiquing the All-22 tape are not well-versed in the strategy, the potential for misinformation becomes even greater. Bottom line: Mondays in the NFL just got worse for all the coaches who lose on Sundays.

Early in my career, I drove Hall of Fame 49ers coach Bill Walsh around in his car. Oftentimes, our conversations centered on my goals -- how I could reach them, and what I ultimately wanted to become. At that time, I thought I really knew the game of football. But in reality, each time I viewed the All-22, I was just watching film. Not studying, not improving, not learning. Just running the machine. As Coach Walsh would tell me, I did not understand the play, so I couldn't correctly evaluate the player. Each time you watch the All-22, you must be able to simultaneously assess the play and the player to understand both. This is not easy for some in the NFL, let alone fans who want to access the coaches' tape.

And therein lies the problem with All-22 tape becoming available to the general public, particularly when it comes to passing plays. Someone will be open and many fans will assume that the quarterback did not make the right read or was locked onto another receiver. Yet in reality there is a progression on every pass play -- based on the coverage -- that a quarterback must rely on to determine who gets the ball. What might appear to be open on the All-22 might not be on the progression.

Correctly studying the All-22 requires a complete understanding of schemes -- both offensive and defensive -- and what each player is supposed to do on each play. Let's go back to the example mentioned above, where it appears a receiver is open, but the quarterback does not get him the ball. The viewer must know the coverage and understand the principles of the coverage -- what looks like man at times can really be matchup zone -- before determining whether the quarterback really missed a potential target. Computing all of this information is very difficult if you are not in the meetings each day, not around the team and not privy to the playbook.

By allowing everyone to see the All-22 film, the NFL has opened up Pandora's Box -- which is fine, as long as everyone understands that many observations are going to be wrong.

Fans should want to watch football from the coaches' viewpoint, as it will help broaden their knowledge of the game, allowing them to see more than just where the ball is going. But be careful what conclusions are drawn and always preface your observations like my old boss Art Modell did, with a "first guess."
Yes, you lowly peasants may now have access to the Holy Grail that we've kept hidden in our ivory towers for years, but you mere serfs are too ignorant to know what to do with it. We must now suffer through ridiculously shallow and unintelligent opinions as we try to enlighten the world with the actual truth, which only we can divine.
So you think he's wrong? I don't. There are a lot of X's and O's ignorant people out there that will draw lots of wrong conclusions, but shout them loudly anywhere they can because they were looking at "coaches tape". The same thing will happen with people who AREN'T X's and O's ignorant. I don't think he's saying we shouldn't have access to it. He's saying criticism will become louder now, coming from what is perceived as a better vantage point. He's also basically saying that when the time comes, don't believe everything you see/hear.

 
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I never said he's wrong. I believe what he says, what is on the tape won't always be as it appears. There will be moments when the closest person gets blamed for giving up a big play yet according to the defensive calls/formation it really wasn't their responsibility. Regardless the 22 man view should help everyone who's interested become a more knowledgeable fan.

Maybe I'm in the minority, but reading his article I got the vibe he was being arrogant and reinforcing the ideology that only the "insiders" will ever know the truth. I laugh when he laments about how he will have to listen to tons of incorrect people who now think they're experts. He's got it rough.

 
No, he showed that he used to be an ignorant fool like the rest of us mortals, but now is one of the elite thanks to his intimate relationships with Art Modell, Bill Walsh, and I'm sure countless others. Look, I get it. He's been around pro football for much of his life and the trophy is even named after him. I have no doubt he's forgotten more about football than I've ever know. He still comes across as a tool in that article.

 
I'd like to know who all of these people are who have refrained from criticizing NFL players and teams in the past due to their lack of access to All-22 tape, because I don't think I have ever met one of them.

"Tim Tebow? Well, he seemed like he had a bit of difficulty in the passing game yesterday, but I don't have access to the coaches' tape so it would be unfair of me to judge him."

 
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I'm sure there will be people that will say things like "You must only be watching the tv feed, but I watch the coaches tape and saw......" Many will be the same people that make statements like "I re-watch games "X" number of times so I know what I'm talking about and ....." Coaches tape snobs if you will. Usually these guys aren't able to provide a strong argument though.

 
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