you're misunderstanding where they are getting locked out of.Owners most assuredly will if for no other reason than without a CBA, the players are likely to not be insured on their premises or technically even be workers which is the other point, umm there'd be no one to lock out.Decertifying the union does amount to starting anew in a way, but from the ashes of this NFLPA would be a new NFLPA. The players don't want to be without a union as an end result. It's a real long time from disrupting play. Preseason is a long ways away from the last game of the year. I highly doubt any games are disrupted. Only thing pressing is the draft and it doesn't really matter when it takes place. In some ways, but in the grand scheme of things, the date of the draft is trivial.
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NFL Union Leader Says Lockout Likely Next Season (1 Viewer)
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there's alot of holes in this. Not trying to nitpick, I think this is an important part.Most players never make it to another subsequent contract. They only get 3-4 years in the league and rookie contracts generally cover that. Guys like Ryan Sims will never see as much money as their rookie deal ever again unless they finally get it together. There's more busts than booms in the first round. I also guess guys like Sims or Bey really irk the veterans. Maybe they can handle Bradford making a bunch, but a guy that doesn't produce has to be frustrating.Rant-Most everything that comes out of the owners mouths concerning the draft and/or rookies can be reworded as "we don't want any risk." Like I said earlier, my response to that is, "tough." Then stop taking them on draft day and draft the productive FBs and Cs earlier and stop taking the 50th WR before the 1st FB. They are owners that are tired of bosses hiring bad employees so eventually they fire the bosses(GMs). That's just a normal ugly side of business, but it's good the NFL has that accountability on most every team. They need to raise their expectations level. Right now GMs keep their job if 3 of 7 players make the team. Make that expectation higher and watch the GM transfer that accountability on down to the scouts and asst coaches that feed him the info to make picks. This is an owner prob not an NFLPA prob.If somehow the owners get the NFLPA to offer them less risk, the picks will just get worse and worse. Long time employees might work well on pride and without much accountability, but with the huge NFL turnover....no way. They all have to be accountable."MoveTheSticks" was a former scout that was unemployed and most of us loved him on Twitter this summer. Jeremiah got a new job and recently some buddies told me he's doing well now. Accountability isn't always pretty but there has to be a standard set.
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It's not "risk" that they are trying to avoid. There is inherent risk in every pick and every contract. What they are trying to do is shift the cost of doing business from the unproven college player to the veteran who has earned the money through performance to the organization and league. So is that less risk, sure. But it's still risk. Can you imagine a unionized electrician making less than his newly hired apprentice?Of all the proposals the Owners want, a draft pay scale is probably the one I agree with the most. If you have a that either shorten the length of the 1st contract or get rid of RFA and have a cap floor. That way, it becomes easier for the young guys to get to that second contract.Bri said:
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Thats a rather misleading data set. I don't believe anyone is claiming 3rd round picks are overpaid. Its the very top of the draft where salaries seem to be out of whack in regards to risk vs reward - top 10, top 5 and especially number 1 overall. The problem continues to get worse because each agent requires a better deal than the same slot than the year before to save face, regardless of the talent of the players involved. Peyton Manning's rookie deal was probably close to market as he had a long pedigree and was extremely highly rated, but in part his deal formed the basis for Alex Smith's contract.
The most in-depth study I know of (Massey & Thaler) concluded that second-rounders give more production per dollar than first-rounders, and mid-to-late first-rounders give more production per dollar than top five picks; but all of those groups give more production per dollar than veterans who are no longer in their rookie contracts.
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