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NHL Off-Season thread:Down goes Kane! (1 Viewer)

Yeah. That save percentage really holding his team back. He's not on pace for almost 60 wins or anything.

 
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Vancouver has the most goals per game in the West. I am pretty sure that is the main reason they are winning a lot, not their goalie who's putting up very average numbers (despite two consecutive shutouts). I know you know better. :)

 
Amazing how team scoring is the only reason for Miller's success now but the dog#### offense for the Blues last year wasn't mentioned as a reason for his failures there.

 
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Plenty of us took the Blues offense to task last year for not scoring enough in the playoffs, even while we were ragging on Miller for the many soft goals he let in.

And I said offense was the MAIN reason the canucks are winning, not the only reason.

It helps to read what I wrote. :D

 
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Scandella locked up 5 years 20 mil, another very reasonable deal for a solid top 4 defenseman. :thumbup:

 
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Will the NHL ever ask its refs to punish the play and not the result? Game killing call in St. Paul.
Was the right call even if they missed it at first. :shrug:
Well, I don't want to get into a debate over this since I know how those conversations devolve, but I think if that's 5 and a game then so is Scandella's hit.

Whatever, the Blues were playing poorly enough that I don't think they were going to win regardless. Not that big of a deal this point in the season.

 
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Will the NHL ever ask its refs to punish the play and not the result? Game killing call in St. Paul.
Was the right call even if they missed it at first. :shrug:
Well, I don't want to get into a debate over this since I know how those conversations devolve, but I think if that's 5 and a game then so is Scandella's hit.

Whatever, the Blues were playing poorly enough that I don't think they were going to win regardless. Not that big of a deal this point in the season.
Scandella hit could deserve it too and they probably call it if Oshie is left on the ice. Still got 2 minutes.Not really the point though, Shattenkirk hit was worthy of a major and got one even if the arms didn't go up initially, no?

 
Will the NHL ever ask its refs to punish the play and not the result? Game killing call in St. Paul.
Was the right call even if they missed it at first. :shrug:
Well, I don't want to get into a debate over this since I know how those conversations devolve, but I think if that's 5 and a game then so is Scandella's hit.

Whatever, the Blues were playing poorly enough that I don't think they were going to win regardless. Not that big of a deal this point in the season.
Scandella hit could deserve it too and they probably call it if Oshie is left on the ice. Still got 2 minutes.Not really the point though, Shattenkirk hit was worthy of a major and got one even if the arms didn't go up initially, no?
I don't think it was worthy at all. You think every board is worthy of 5 and a game? Anyway, my last post on the topic. We'll just have to agree to disagree. Your Wild looks very good... must feel good to have all those young players locked up. Should be a good battle this season!

 
Will the NHL ever ask its refs to punish the play and not the result? Game killing call in St. Paul.
Was the right call even if they missed it at first. :shrug:
Well, I don't want to get into a debate over this since I know how those conversations devolve, but I think if that's 5 and a game then so is Scandella's hit.

Whatever, the Blues were playing poorly enough that I don't think they were going to win regardless. Not that big of a deal this point in the season.
Scandella hit could deserve it too and they probably call it if Oshie is left on the ice. Still got 2 minutes.Not really the point though, Shattenkirk hit was worthy of a major and got one even if the arms didn't go up initially, no?
I don't think it was worthy at all. You think every board is worthy of 5 and a game? Anyway, my last post on the topic. We'll just have to agree to disagree. Your Wild looks very good... must feel good to have all those young players locked up. Should be a good battle this season!
Yup, you got me. All boardings should be 5 min majors. How'd you know?
 
Nice win for the Tarasenkos tonight. They might do something this year if they can find 3 more lines.

 
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Plenty of us took the Blues offense to task last year for not scoring enough in the playoffs, even while we were ragging on Miller for the many soft goals he let in.

And I said offense was the MAIN reason the canucks are winning, not the only reason.

It helps to read what I wrote. :D
Its More Miller and rolling 4 lines that has Van winning. The offense is better because its not just the Sedins who are carrying the mail. Miller is their MVP right now and the entire team knows it.

 
Forget Toronto. It’s time to troll Boston for the Tyler Seguin trade.
The Kessel/Seguin debate is over, as the Seguin/Eriksson trade rendered it irrelevant. And the Seguin/Eriksson debate is over as quickly as it started. Seguin is a cautionary tale. Don’t give up on elite young talents too soon, as they’re far easier to give away than to get. If you do, you end up 24 games into a season without a six-goal scorer. Yep, if you took Boston’s leading goal scorer and tripled his total, he’d have three fewer goals than Seguin.
 
Forget Toronto. Its time to troll Boston for the Tyler Seguin trade.

The Kessel/Seguin debate is over, as the Seguin/Eriksson trade rendered it irrelevant. And the Seguin/Eriksson debate is over as quickly as it started. Seguin is a cautionary tale. Dont give up on elite young talents too soon, as theyre far easier to give away than to get. If you do, you end up 24 games into a season without a six-goal scorer. Yep, if you took Bostons leading goal scorer and tripled his total, hed have three fewer goals than Seguin.
:lmao:
 
Forget Toronto. It’s time to troll Boston for the Tyler Seguin trade.

The Kessel/Seguin debate is over, as the Seguin/Eriksson trade rendered it irrelevant. And the Seguin/Eriksson debate is over as quickly as it started. Seguin is a cautionary tale. Don’t give up on elite young talents too soon, as they’re far easier to give away than to get. If you do, you end up 24 games into a season without a six-goal scorer. Yep, if you took Boston’s leading goal scorer and tripled his total, he’d have three fewer goals than Seguin.
And yet ...

4
BOSTON 25 14 10 1 29 12 63 61 +2 9-5-1 5-5-0 2-0 5-4-1 LOST 1 6
DALLAS 24 9 10 5 23 8 70 84 -14 4-5-5 5-5-0 1-1 5-4-1 LOST 1 Only the Oilers (87) have allowed more goals this season than the Stars (Jackets also have allowed 84).

And other than Seguin and Jamie Benn (8), no one else in Dallas has more than 5 goals either.

But hey, as long as you're scoring goals and completely ignoring the other end of the ice (and being a complete locker room cancer, but we don't need to get into that any more), all is well in the world. :thumbup:

 
Forget Toronto. Its time to troll Boston for the Tyler Seguin trade.

The Kessel/Seguin debate is over, as the Seguin/Eriksson trade rendered it irrelevant. And the Seguin/Eriksson debate is over as quickly as it started. Seguin is a cautionary tale. Dont give up on elite young talents too soon, as theyre far easier to give away than to get. If you do, you end up 24 games into a season without a six-goal scorer. Yep, if you took Bostons leading goal scorer and tripled his total, hed have three fewer goals than Seguin.
And yet ...

4



BOSTON 25 14 10 1 29 12 63 61 +2 9-5-1 5-5-0 2-0 5-4-1 LOST 1 6



DALLAS 24 9 10 5 23 8 70 84 -14 4-5-5 5-5-0 1-1 5-4-1 LOST 1

Only the Oilers (87) have allowed more goals this season than the Stars (Jackets also have allowed 84).

And other than Seguin and Jamie Benn (8), no one else in Dallas has more than 5 goals either.

But hey, as long as you're scoring goals and completely ignoring the other end of the ice (and being a complete locker room cancer, but we don't need to get into that any more), all is well in the world. :thumbup:
hfs :lmao:

 
Forget Toronto. It’s time to troll Boston for the Tyler Seguin trade.

The Kessel/Seguin debate is over, as the Seguin/Eriksson trade rendered it irrelevant. And the Seguin/Eriksson debate is over as quickly as it started. Seguin is a cautionary tale. Don’t give up on elite young talents too soon, as they’re far easier to give away than to get. If you do, you end up 24 games into a season without a six-goal scorer. Yep, if you took Boston’s leading goal scorer and tripled his total, he’d have three fewer goals than Seguin.
And yet ...

4
BOSTON 25 14 10 1 29 12 63 61 +2 9-5-1 5-5-0 2-0 5-4-1 LOST 1 6
DALLAS 24 9 10 5 23 8 70 84 -14 4-5-5 5-5-0 1-1 5-4-1 LOST 1Only the Oilers (87) have allowed more goals this season than the Stars (Jackets also have allowed 84).

And other than Seguin and Jamie Benn (8), no one else in Dallas has more than 5 goals either.

But hey, as long as you're scoring goals and completely ignoring the other end of the ice (and being a complete locker room cancer, but we don't need to get into that any more), all is well in the world. :thumbup:
:o

 
did Bruin fan do this with the Joe Thornton trade too? that's too long ago for me to remember.
I don't think they were as happy with the returns but wrote off Thornton as a playoff choker. IIRC, getting rid of his salary helped them sign Chara (and Savard).

Amazing anyone would still try to defend this deal.

 
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But hey, as long as you're scoring goals and completely ignoring the other end of the ice (and being a complete locker room cancer, but we don't need to get into that any more), all is well in the world. :thumbup:
"completely ignoring" the other end?

the fancy stats seem to suggest otherwise.

Even during his down 2012-13 year, after which he was traded, Boston would’ve seen a boom coming if it checked the analytics. Per behindthenet.ca, Seguin’s relative Corsi (Corsi relative to the rest of his team) was the eighth-best mark in the NHL.
His 5v5 Corsi that year was 20.6 while Bergeron's was 19.3

His 5v5 Corsi this year is 12.2, which is by far the best in Dallas. FWIW, Bergeron's is 21.5.

 
Ben Bishop owns the Rangers.
1st game, Rangers only put 16 shots on net and he saved 15 of them. Meanwhile, Bolts put up 5 goals themselves.

2nd game, Rangers only put 19 shots on net and he saved 16 of them. Bolts scored 4.

3rd game, Rangers put 35 shots on net and he saved 32 of them. Bolts scored 6.

Bolts scored 15 goals in 3 games. Not sure how much that has to do with Bishop making 63 saves on 70 shots.(.900 SV%).

 
Ben Bishop owns the Rangers.
1st game, Rangers only put 16 shots on net and he saved 15 of them. Meanwhile, Bolts put up 5 goals themselves.2nd game, Rangers only put 19 shots on net and he saved 16 of them. Bolts scored 4.

3rd game, Rangers put 35 shots on net and he saved 32 of them. Bolts scored 6.

Bolts scored 15 goals in 3 games. Not sure how much that has to do with Bishop making 63 saves on 70 shots.(.900 SV%).
Think he's 9-0 against them.

 
Alex Semin has to be one of the worst contracts going.$7 million per and has 0 goals and 5 assists in 18 games plus a few healthy scratches and his usual -8/12 penalty minutes.

 
Ben Bishop owns the Rangers.
1st game, Rangers only put 16 shots on net and he saved 15 of them. Meanwhile, Bolts put up 5 goals themselves.2nd game, Rangers only put 19 shots on net and he saved 16 of them. Bolts scored 4.

3rd game, Rangers put 35 shots on net and he saved 32 of them. Bolts scored 6.

Bolts scored 15 goals in 3 games. Not sure how much that has to do with Bishop making 63 saves on 70 shots.(.900 SV%).
Think he's 9-0 against them.
that's impressive, and his numbers in previous years look great against them.

But, I'm pretty sure his own team scoring 5 goals/game this year played a bigger role.

 
Ben Bishop owns the Rangers.
1st game, Rangers only put 16 shots on net and he saved 15 of them. Meanwhile, Bolts put up 5 goals themselves.2nd game, Rangers only put 19 shots on net and he saved 16 of them. Bolts scored 4.

3rd game, Rangers put 35 shots on net and he saved 32 of them. Bolts scored 6.

Bolts scored 15 goals in 3 games. Not sure how much that has to do with Bishop making 63 saves on 70 shots.(.900 SV%).
Think he's 9-0 against them.
that's impressive, and his numbers in previous years look great against them.But, I'm pretty sure his own team scoring 5 goals/game this year played a bigger role.
It's possible, yes.

 
Ben Bishop owns the Rangers.
1st game, Rangers only put 16 shots on net and he saved 15 of them. Meanwhile, Bolts put up 5 goals themselves.2nd game, Rangers only put 19 shots on net and he saved 16 of them. Bolts scored 4.

3rd game, Rangers put 35 shots on net and he saved 32 of them. Bolts scored 6.

Bolts scored 15 goals in 3 games. Not sure how much that has to do with Bishop making 63 saves on 70 shots.(.900 SV%).
Think he's 9-0 against them.
that's impressive, and his numbers in previous years look great against them.

But, I'm pretty sure his own team scoring 5 goals/game this year played a bigger role.
Yeah, I was referring more to his lifetime numbers against them.

Bolts fans probably not too upset with the Marty trade at this point.

Callahan has 11 goals and 21 points in 20 games.

St Louis has 10 goals and 20 points in 24 games.

Thank Marty St. Louis for demanding a trade
When you throw in the picks it's pretty lopsided.

 
Ben Bishop owns the Rangers.
1st game, Rangers only put 16 shots on net and he saved 15 of them. Meanwhile, Bolts put up 5 goals themselves.2nd game, Rangers only put 19 shots on net and he saved 16 of them. Bolts scored 4.

3rd game, Rangers put 35 shots on net and he saved 32 of them. Bolts scored 6.

Bolts scored 15 goals in 3 games. Not sure how much that has to do with Bishop making 63 saves on 70 shots.(.900 SV%).
Think he's 9-0 against them.
that's impressive, and his numbers in previous years look great against them.But, I'm pretty sure his own team scoring 5 goals/game this year played a bigger role.
Yeah, I was referring more to his lifetime numbers against them.

Bolts fans probably not too upset with the Marty trade at this point.

Callahan has 11 goals and 21 points in 20 games.

St Louis has 10 goals and 20 points in 24 games.

Thank Marty St. Louis for demanding a trade
When you throw in the picks it's pretty lopsided.
The picks really make it a sweet deal.

Worked out really well, especially with Bishop dying last year anyways. Still sucks how the captain quit on the team.

 
The gave some stat the other day in the NBC game about teams not moving much in the standings after Thanksgiving. Anyone know what that stat is

It was high and almost upsetting

 
Blues are signing Martin Brodeur today to be Jake Allen's backup while Brian Elliott is on the mend.

The benefit will not be in the games he plays, but the mentoring he'll give Allen while he's here, IMO.

Edit: I guess it's done. 1 year, 700k including bonuses, per Blues beat writer Jeremy Rutherford

 
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Blues are signing Martin Brodeur today to be Jake Allen's backup while Brian Elliott is on the mend.

The benefit will not be in the games he plays, but the mentoring he'll give Allen while he's here, IMO.

Edit: I guess it's done. 1 year, 700k including bonuses, per Blues beat writer Jeremy Rutherford
Has Brodeur really been known for his mentoring? I never got the impression that he was a great mentor.

 
Blues are signing Martin Brodeur today to be Jake Allen's backup while Brian Elliott is on the mend.

The benefit will not be in the games he plays, but the mentoring he'll give Allen while he's here, IMO.

Edit: I guess it's done. 1 year, 700k including bonuses, per Blues beat writer Jeremy Rutherford
Has Brodeur really been known for his mentoring? I never got the impression that he was a great mentor.
no.

from all reports I've read, he's been all about Marty during his time with the Devils. Maybe that will change now that he's with a new organization and obviously nearing the end. But, I still bet he will be competitive and want to play as much as possible rather than be happy with the backup role.

 

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