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hmmm.. case in point..one of the dopest producers in hip hop....that's allDon't think so.Does West even play an instrument?![]()
so he is NOT a musician... Go away Kayne
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hmmm.. case in point..one of the dopest producers in hip hop....that's allDon't think so.Does West even play an instrument?![]()
so he is NOT a musician... Go away Kayne
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Oh I get it, you're one of those guys that says hip hop isn't music or something like that...awesomehmmm.. case in point..one of the dopest producers in hip hop....that's allDon't think so.Does West even play an instrument?![]()
so he is NOT a musician... Go away Kayne
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so he is NOT a musician... Go away Kayne
Or create their own.Hip hop is one of those forms of music that relys on OTHER music. They cant play anything or even sing so they have to rip off riffs. Sorry
Any other genres you also toss aside as not worthy?
Yeah The Roots are terrible......and I guess Andy Warhol and Roy Lichenstein weren't artists either....silly people hereOr create their own.Hip hop is one of those forms of music that relys on OTHER music. They cant play anything or even sing so they have to rip off riffs. Sorry
Plenty of hip hop artists sing fantastically well, and as many play their own instruments (or at least have the ability to).Hip hop is one of those forms of music that relys on OTHER music. They cant play anything or even sing so they have to rip off riffs. Sorry
They pretty much coat-tail the rock industry except for the constant tough-guy, angry poses.Or create their own.Hip hop is one of those forms of music that relys on OTHER music. They cant play anything or even sing so they have to rip off riffs. Sorry

Country Western, particularly the "pop" kind. Nickelback and anything that sounds like Nickelback.Any other genres you also toss aside as not worthy?
Like poop diddy and biggie puff-pop?Plenty of hip hop artists sing fantastically well, and as many play their own instruments (or at least have the ability to).Hip hop is one of those forms of music that relys on OTHER music. They cant play anything or even sing so they have to rip off riffs. Sorry
Wow. Hilarious.Like poop diddy and biggie puff-pop?Plenty of hip hop artists sing fantastically well, and as many play their own instruments (or at least have the ability to).Hip hop is one of those forms of music that relys on OTHER music. They cant play anything or even sing so they have to rip off riffs. Sorry
nope-- anyting that can be programmed on a computer or drum machine is not music.. I'm a big fan of folk, rock, jazz, reggae, old country, and classical.. hip hop?Any other genres you also toss aside as not worthy?

Im not a big country or nickelsack fan either.Country Western, particularly the "pop" kind. Nickelback and anything that sounds like Nickelback.Any other genres you also toss aside as not worthy?
ThanksWow. Hilarious.Like poop diddy and biggie puff-pop?Plenty of hip hop artists sing fantastically well, and as many play their own instruments (or at least have the ability to).Hip hop is one of those forms of music that relys on OTHER music. They cant play anything or even sing so they have to rip off riffs. Sorry
pretty sure the Roots can play instruments..Yeah The Roots are terrible......and I guess Andy Warhol and Roy Lichenstein weren't artists either....silly people hereOr create their own.Hip hop is one of those forms of music that relys on OTHER music. They cant play anything or even sing so they have to rip off riffs. Sorry
And they are clearly hip hop. Sounds like you are a bit confused in your hip hop stance.pretty sure the Roots can play instruments..Yeah The Roots are terrible......and I guess Andy Warhol and Roy Lichenstein weren't artists either....silly people hereOr create their own.Hip hop is one of those forms of music that relys on OTHER music. They cant play anything or even sing so they have to rip off riffs. Sorry
I'd be willing to bet that Kanye can play instruments (piano and percussion in particular) given his singing and songwriting credits. That said, why does a person have to play an instrument to be a musician?Don't think so.Does West even play an instrument?![]()
so he is NOT a musician... Go away Kayne
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Why is programming a device to make sounds inferior to strumming or hitting a device to make sounds?nope-- anyting that can be programmed on a computer or drum machine is not music.. I'm a big fan of folk, rock, jazz, reggae, old country, and classical.. hip hop?Any other genres you also toss aside as not worthy?![]()
I think the key thing here is to not listen to peens, AE, and apparently now parrothead when it comes to anything music.I'd be willing to bet that Kanye can play instruments (piano and percussion in particular) given his singing and songwriting credits. That said, why does a person have to play an instrument to be a musician?Don't think so.Does West even play an instrument?![]()
so he is NOT a musician... Go away Kayne
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I'd be willing to bet that Kanye can play instruments (piano and percussion in particular) given his singing and songwriting credits.Don't think so.Does West even play an instrument?![]()
so he is NOT a musician... Go away Kayne
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Why is programming a device to make sounds inferior to strumming or hitting a device to make sounds?
Why is programming a device to make sounds inferior to strumming or hitting a device to make sounds?nope-- anyting that can be programmed on a computer or drum machine is not music.. I'm a big fan of folk, rock, jazz, reggae, old country, and classical.. hip hop?Any other genres you also toss aside as not worthy?![]()
seriously?good for them.. they play instruments, West does not (my original point)And they are clearly hip hop. Sounds like you are a bit confused in your hip hop stance.pretty sure the Roots can play instruments..Yeah The Roots are terrible......and I guess Andy Warhol and Roy Lichenstein weren't artists either....silly people hereOr create their own.Hip hop is one of those forms of music that relys on OTHER music. They cant play anything or even sing so they have to rip off riffs. Sorry
I meant to say producing and songwriting credits. In any event, I'm not sure I understand the humor. I'm not a fan of rap or hip hop myself. But I can recognize the creative and musical process underlying the writing of songs of the genre.I'd be willing to bet that Kanye can play instruments (piano and percussion in particular) given his singing and songwriting credits.Don't think so.Does West even play an instrument?![]()
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Seriously.Why is programming a device to make sounds inferior to strumming or hitting a device to make sounds?nope-- anyting that can be programmed on a computer or drum machine is not music.. I'm a big fan of folk, rock, jazz, reggae, old country, and classical.. hip hop?Any other genres you also toss aside as not worthy?![]()
seriously?
It may have been your original point, but it quickly grew to "hip hop is not music."good for them.. they play instruments, West does not (my original point)
I think your original point is erroneous. Just checked his wiki page and it says he plays percussion and keyboards.good for them.. they play instruments, West does not (my original point)
And they are clearly hip hop. Sounds like you are a bit confused in your hip hop stance.pretty sure the Roots can play instruments..Yeah The Roots are terrible......and I guess Andy Warhol and Roy Lichenstein weren't artists either....silly people hereOr create their own.Hip hop is one of those forms of music that relys on OTHER music. They cant play anything or even sing so they have to rip off riffs. Sorry

I think most everyone is in agreement with these points, which is why we've moved on to debate other topics.How did this become country music is just country music and rappers/hip hop artists aren't talented unless they play an instrument? If you make millions of dollars entertaining people, then you are doing well for yourself and have a degree of talent regardless of opinion. The facts that are not in qusetion:1) Mr. West embarrassed a young lady who did absolutely nothing wrong, but try to accept an honor while trying to be a crossover star (pop/country).2) Taylor Swift performed a song less than 10 minutes after the embarrassment, showed a lot of composure and class by not lashing back at Mr. West.3) Beyonce who Mr. West was trying to defend (or use as a scapegoat) showed a lot of class when she won invited Taylor up on the stage to complete her speech.
yeah.. that part was just an opinion..It may have been your original point, but it quickly grew to "hip hop is not music."good for them.. they play instruments, West does not (my original point)
I stand by my point on West though..Even though he does in fact play instruments, on top of singing and producing?yeah.. that part was just an opinion..It may have been your original point, but it quickly grew to "hip hop is not music."good for them.. they play instruments, West does not (my original point)I stand by my point on West though..
oh.. well, I stand corrected..I think your original point is erroneous. Just checked his wiki page and it says he plays percussion and keyboards.good for them.. they play instruments, West does not (my original point)
Parrothead, please quit while you're behind and go have a cheeseburger in paradise or somethingEven though he does in fact play instruments, on top of singing and producing?yeah.. that part was just an opinion..It may have been your original point, but it quickly grew to "hip hop is not music."good for them.. they play instruments, West does not (my original point)I stand by my point on West though..
Is it your belief that classically trained opera singers aren't musicians (since I see that you're a fan of classical music)?yeah.. that part was just an opinion..It may have been your original point, but it quickly grew to "hip hop is not music."good for them.. they play instruments, West does not (my original point)I stand by my point on West though..
oh.. well, I stand corrected..I think your original point is erroneous. Just checked his wiki page and it says he plays percussion and keyboards.good for them.. they play instruments, West does not (my original point)good for him.. not a fan, but at least he plays an instrument.. thanks for the research!
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hey, I didn't know.. as I said, good for him.. he's still a toolbag..Parrothead, please quit while you're behind and go have a cheeseburger in paradise or somethingEven though he does in fact play instruments, on top of singing and producing?yeah.. that part was just an opinion..It may have been your original point, but it quickly grew to "hip hop is not music."good for them.. they play instruments, West does not (my original point)I stand by my point on West though..
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Can't argue with you there.he's still a toolbag..
you think Kayne can read that level of music?bigbottom said:Is it your belief that classically trained opera singers aren't musicians (since I see that you're a fan of classical music)?Parrothead said:yeah.. that part was just an opinion..the moops said:It may have been your original point, but it quickly grew to "hip hop is not music."Parrothead said:good for them.. they play instruments, West does not (my original point)I stand by my point on West though..
Now we are including reading music as a requisite?you think Kayne can read that level of music?bigbottom said:Is it your belief that classically trained opera singers aren't musicians (since I see that you're a fan of classical music)?Parrothead said:yeah.. that part was just an opinion..the moops said:It may have been your original point, but it quickly grew to "hip hop is not music."Parrothead said:good for them.. they play instruments, West does not (my original point)I stand by my point on West though..
How does Swift NOT ask Kayne is he likes fish sticks?
my only thought other than "oh man, south park already made fun of this guy"Back in Black, Shook You All Night -AC/DCRock You Like a Hurricane -ScorpsMamma Said Kncok You Out -LL Cool JI would love to see the diversified music collection of AE and Peens.Can either, or both of you, post your top played songs?
sounds like a wedding reception :XBack in Black, Shook You All Night -AC/DCRock You Like a Hurricane -ScorpsMamma Said Kncok You Out -LL Cool JI would love to see the diversified music collection of AE and Peens.Can either, or both of you, post your top played songs?
The comparison was about people who don't play musical instruments. It wasn't comparing their skill or ability to read music or anything like that.:X when you are comparing a hip hop producer to a classically trained opera singer..
I would seem to think it would be a requirement to being a musician. :XNow we are including reading music as a requisite?