NY Giants WR(s) (1 Viewer)

[plyka]

This late into the season, there aren't many opportunities to find a Peyton Hillis on the Waiver Wire. You're not going to get a guy come out of no where and turn into a star, unless something changes in their respective circumstance. This "change" is usually opportunity. For instance, Harry Douglas for the Falcons has been getting plenty of opportunity for the entire year. He hasn't done much with it. The chance that he all of a sudden turns into a stud is close to nil. Why would he? He hasn't yet so what is going to change? So, the idea is to look at a situation where something has changed and an opportunity has been created.

Now an opportunity is not just playing time. It is targets along with playing time. And perhaps the most important aspect of playing time/chances, is situation. If a new guy all of a sudden gets a lot of carries/targets and playing time on the Seahawks, that's ok, but not great. If that same player gets the exact same carries/targets and playing time on the colts, if they are a receiver, or the Jets if they are a RB, then that is worth a lot more. The best example of this is Jacob Tamme. When Clark went down, he got a chance at a bunch of targets and playing time, but his situation was the best you could get, a TE on the Colts. That's why i picked him up on every team, the opportunity was perfect for performance. Now he is a stud TE and may lead my team to a championship since it was my weakest position with that scrub Celek.

Basically, the long winded dialog above is not intended to preach, but to point out that i think another absolutely HUGE opportunity for a WR has been created. Not only will this WR who is probably sitting on the WW right now get a lot more playing time/targets, but they are in one of the best if not the best situation in the league! The Giants passing attack is one of the best in the NFL. They have lost their 2 star WRs in Hicks and Steve Smith for who knows how long, and perhaps the rest of the year.

A stud will be born! Who is that stud going to be?

Manningham is #1 but he is probably gone from the WW. Calhoun, Hagan, Reynaud and now Clayton are next in line. Who are you taking? I'm taking Hagan and have him on all my teams. I think that this is the biggest opportunity right now in fantasy football.

edit: Devin Thomas added, other added --both late, after 30 or so votes.

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

Hicks

I voted for all four, because I could.

 

[finito]

No Devin Thomas?

 

[Crazy8s]

Boss!

 

[plyka]

No Devin Thomas?

Devin Thomas added, but his numbers will be skewed a little to the negative since some votes were already cast...any other WRs that should be in the poll?

 

[Giants4Life]

This late into the season, there aren't many opportunities to find a Peyton Hillis on the Waiver Wire. You're not going to get a guy come out of no where and turn into a star, unless something changes in their respective circumstance. This "change" is usually opportunity. For instance, Harry Douglas for the Falcons has been getting plenty of opportunity for the entire year. He hasn't done much with it. The chance that he all of a sudden turns into a stud is close to nil. Why would he? He hasn't yet so what is going to change? So, the idea is to look at a situation where something has changed and an opportunity has been created. Now an opportunity is not just playing time. It is targets along with playing time. And perhaps the most important aspect of playing time/chances, is situation. If a new guy all of a sudden gets a lot of carries/targets and playing time on the Seahawks, that's ok, but not great. If that same player gets the exact same carries/targets and playing time on the colts, if they are a receiver, or the Jets if they are a RB, then that is worth a lot more. The best example of this is Jacob Tamme. When Clark went down, he got a chance at a bunch of targets and playing time, but his situation was the best you could get, a TE on the Colts. That's why i picked him up on every team, the opportunity was perfect for performance. Now he is a stud TE and may lead my team to a championship since it was my weakest position with that scrub Celek.Basically, the long winded dialog above is not intended to preach, but to point out that i think another absolutely HUGE opportunity for a WR has been created. Not only will this WR who is probably sitting on the WW right now get a lot more playing time/targets, but they are in one of the best if not the best situation in the league! The Giants passing attack is one of the best in the NFL. They have lost their 2 star WRs in Hicks and Steve Smith for who knows how long, and perhaps the rest of the year.A stud will be born! Who is that stud going to be?Manningham is #1 but he is probably gone from the WW. Calhoun, Hagan, Reynaud and now Clayton are next in line. Who are you taking? I'm taking Hagan and have him on all my teams. I think that this is the biggest opportunity right now in fantasy football.edit: Devin Thomas added, other added --both late, after 30 or so votes.

The biggest opportunity in fantasy football? Have you ever seen any of these guys on the list play?

 

[tunamelt warrior]

I voted "other." Don't overlook the quality TEs Kevin Boss and Travis Beckum. Half the time Beckum lines up as a WR, and he caught a TD last week. I expect these two to get plenty of work/red zone looks until Nicks returns. Wasn't Hagan sitting on his couch last week?

 

[Bri]

On the list- Clayton if and only if he blocks well, it'll put him on the field most. Otherwise Hagan because he's been there before and has an idea of the offense and because he's shown me a little something every now and then.

 

[plyka]

This late into the season, there aren't many opportunities to find a Peyton Hillis on the Waiver Wire. You're not going to get a guy come out of no where and turn into a star, unless something changes in their respective circumstance. This "change" is usually opportunity. For instance, Harry Douglas for the Falcons has been getting plenty of opportunity for the entire year. He hasn't done much with it. The chance that he all of a sudden turns into a stud is close to nil. Why would he? He hasn't yet so what is going to change? So, the idea is to look at a situation where something has changed and an opportunity has been created. Now an opportunity is not just playing time. It is targets along with playing time. And perhaps the most important aspect of playing time/chances, is situation. If a new guy all of a sudden gets a lot of carries/targets and playing time on the Seahawks, that's ok, but not great. If that same player gets the exact same carries/targets and playing time on the colts, if they are a receiver, or the Jets if they are a RB, then that is worth a lot more. The best example of this is Jacob Tamme. When Clark went down, he got a chance at a bunch of targets and playing time, but his situation was the best you could get, a TE on the Colts. That's why i picked him up on every team, the opportunity was perfect for performance. Now he is a stud TE and may lead my team to a championship since it was my weakest position with that scrub Celek.Basically, the long winded dialog above is not intended to preach, but to point out that i think another absolutely HUGE opportunity for a WR has been created. Not only will this WR who is probably sitting on the WW right now get a lot more playing time/targets, but they are in one of the best if not the best situation in the league! The Giants passing attack is one of the best in the NFL. They have lost their 2 star WRs in Hicks and Steve Smith for who knows how long, and perhaps the rest of the year.A stud will be born! Who is that stud going to be?Manningham is #1 but he is probably gone from the WW. Calhoun, Hagan, Reynaud and now Clayton are next in line. Who are you taking? I'm taking Hagan and have him on all my teams. I think that this is the biggest opportunity right now in fantasy football.edit: Devin Thomas added, other added --both late, after 30 or so votes.

The biggest opportunity in fantasy football? Have you ever seen any of these guys on the list play?

As the original post said, it is all about opportunity. Do you think a healthy Austin Collie is a better WR than Steve Smith from Carolina? Smith was just dropped in my league. Do you think that Ladanian Tomlinson in his advanced age is a better RB than a healthy Jonathan Stewart or Deangleo Williams? The answer to both questions is a resounding NO! Talent sometimes doesn't count as much as circumstance and opportunity, that was the entire point of the original post. These NY GIant WRs have circumstance and opportunity right now. Not to mention to even be rostered on ANY team in the NFL, you are automatically talented, you are a stud. All NFL players with the exception of Maurice Morris are talented.

 

[Bri]

As the original post said, it is all about opportunity. Do you think a healthy Austin Collie is a better WR than Steve Smith from Carolina? Smith was just dropped in my league. Do you think that Ladanian Tomlinson in his advanced age is a better RB than a healthy Jonathan Stewart or Deangleo Williams? The answer to both questions is a resounding NO! Talent sometimes doesn't count as much as circumstance and opportunity, that was the entire point of the original post. These NY GIant WRs have circumstance and opportunity right now. Not to mention to even be rostered on ANY team in the NFL, you are automatically talented, you are a stud. All NFL players with the exception of Maurice Morris are talented.

umm do you want to rethink Tomlinson?

 

[todisco1]

As the original post said, it is all about opportunity. Do you think a healthy Austin Collie is a better WR than Steve Smith from Carolina? Smith was just dropped in my league. Do you think that Ladanian Tomlinson in his advanced age is a better RB than a healthy Jonathan Stewart or Deangleo Williams? The answer to both questions is a resounding NO! Talent sometimes doesn't count as much as circumstance and opportunity, that was the entire point of the original post. These NY GIant WRs have circumstance and opportunity right now. Not to mention to even be rostered on ANY team in the NFL, you are automatically talented, you are a stud. All NFL players with the exception of Maurice Morris are talented.

umm do you want to rethink Tomlinson?

I don't think Tomlinson is better than DeAngelo or Stewart at this point in his career.

 

[shadyridr]

Hicks?

 

[massraider]

Hicks?

Yeah, Nakeem.

 

[plyka]

As the original post said, it is all about opportunity. Do you think a healthy Austin Collie is a better WR than Steve Smith from Carolina? Smith was just dropped in my league. Do you think that Ladanian Tomlinson in his advanced age is a better RB than a healthy Jonathan Stewart or Deangleo Williams? The answer to both questions is a resounding NO! Talent sometimes doesn't count as much as circumstance and opportunity, that was the entire point of the original post. These NY GIant WRs have circumstance and opportunity right now. Not to mention to even be rostered on ANY team in the NFL, you are automatically talented, you are a stud. All NFL players with the exception of Maurice Morris are talented.

umm do you want to rethink Tomlinson?

Are you serious? You think Tomlinson, as i said, "in his advanced age" (as in, right now), is a better talent that Deangelo or Jonathan Stewart HEALTHY? I don't believe anyone could possibly make this argument with a straight face. Deangelo and Stewart are 2 of the most talented individuals RBs in the NFL, while Tomlinson has lost his burst, power, etc. This isn't to mean that Tomlinson isn't good still, he is, just not as talented as the other two at this point in his career.

 

[JohnnyU]

Beckum.

 

[Bri]

As the original post said, it is all about opportunity. Do you think a healthy Austin Collie is a better WR than Steve Smith from Carolina? Smith was just dropped in my league. Do you think that Ladanian Tomlinson in his advanced age is a better RB than a healthy Jonathan Stewart or Deangleo Williams? The answer to both questions is a resounding NO! Talent sometimes doesn't count as much as circumstance and opportunity, that was the entire point of the original post. These NY GIant WRs have circumstance and opportunity right now. Not to mention to even be rostered on ANY team in the NFL, you are automatically talented, you are a stud. All NFL players with the exception of Maurice Morris are talented.

umm do you want to rethink Tomlinson?

Are you serious? You think Tomlinson, as i said, "in his advanced age" (as in, right now), is a better talent that Deangelo or Jonathan Stewart HEALTHY? I don't believe anyone could possibly make this argument with a straight face. Deangelo and Stewart are 2 of the most talented individuals RBs in the NFL, while Tomlinson has lost his burst, power, etc. This isn't to mean that Tomlinson isn't good still, he is, just not as talented as the other two at this point in his career.

show me on this chart how either is better than Tomlinson pleasehttp://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tab...mp;d-447263-n=1

 

[Bri]

Deangelo and Stewart are 2 of the most talented individuals RBs in the NFL

this is simply too much

 

[damageinc]

Until we see what happens the best bet is Hagan . He is the starter. We saw how bad Calhoun is and Devin and Clayton just got here. Clayton is more a blocker nowaday but I think going forward he could be a red zone target. Manningham and Hagan are starting . they will rotate out calhoun, clayton and Beckum for now as the #3 from what I hear on local radio here in NJ. Manning did target Hagan a bit last week including in the endzone , he did have a TD. For this week hes your best bet. Going forward its undetermined.

 

[Breesisdaman]

I didnt vote because you left out the "None of the above" box. Giants are going to run run run and tank tank tank until Nicks gets back.

 

[GoBirds]

I didnt vote because you left out the "None of the above" box. Giants are going to run run run and tank tank tank until Nicks gets back.

You think Nicks comes back and is effective?

 

[Breesisdaman]

I didnt vote because you left out the "None of the above" box. Giants are going to run run run and tank tank tank until Nicks gets back.

You think Nicks comes back and is effective?

dont know really, but I dont see anyone on this list that screams break out. I think Manning is in trouble.

 

[plyka]

As the original post said, it is all about opportunity. Do you think a healthy Austin Collie is a better WR than Steve Smith from Carolina? Smith was just dropped in my league. Do you think that Ladanian Tomlinson in his advanced age is a better RB than a healthy Jonathan Stewart or Deangleo Williams? The answer to both questions is a resounding NO! Talent sometimes doesn't count as much as circumstance and opportunity, that was the entire point of the original post. These NY GIant WRs have circumstance and opportunity right now. Not to mention to even be rostered on ANY team in the NFL, you are automatically talented, you are a stud. All NFL players with the exception of Maurice Morris are talented.

umm do you want to rethink Tomlinson?

Are you serious? You think Tomlinson, as i said, "in his advanced age" (as in, right now), is a better talent that Deangelo or Jonathan Stewart HEALTHY? I don't believe anyone could possibly make this argument with a straight face. Deangelo and Stewart are 2 of the most talented individuals RBs in the NFL, while Tomlinson has lost his burst, power, etc. This isn't to mean that Tomlinson isn't good still, he is, just not as talented as the other two at this point in his career.

show me on this chart how either is better than Tomlinson pleasehttp://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tab...mp;d-447263-n=1

Are you serious right now? The whole point i am attempting to get accross is the difference between TALENT, that is individual god given talent and circumstance and opportunity. And you bring up STATS? I'm seriously confused on whether you're just kidding around or serious with your posts.

 

[KellysHeroes]

I voted Hagan, but wouldn't be surprised if its Thomas or Clayton as Hagan isn't really that guy and the other 2 are more talented

 

[shadyridr]

What does everyone think of Manningham this week? I know hes considered a good play but I can see the Giants going conservative and running the heck out of the ball.

 

[Cheesedawg]

Beckum.

The best bet might be Hagan but Beckum is a very close second.

 

[Bri]

As the original post said, it is all about opportunity. Do you think a healthy Austin Collie is a better WR than Steve Smith from Carolina? Smith was just dropped in my league. Do you think that Ladanian Tomlinson in his advanced age is a better RB than a healthy Jonathan Stewart or Deangleo Williams? The answer to both questions is a resounding NO! Talent sometimes doesn't count as much as circumstance and opportunity, that was the entire point of the original post. These NY GIant WRs have circumstance and opportunity right now. Not to mention to even be rostered on ANY team in the NFL, you are automatically talented, you are a stud. All NFL players with the exception of Maurice Morris are talented.

umm do you want to rethink Tomlinson?

Are you serious? You think Tomlinson, as i said, "in his advanced age" (as in, right now), is a better talent that Deangelo or Jonathan Stewart HEALTHY? I don't believe anyone could possibly make this argument with a straight face. Deangelo and Stewart are 2 of the most talented individuals RBs in the NFL, while Tomlinson has lost his burst, power, etc. This isn't to mean that Tomlinson isn't good still, he is, just not as talented as the other two at this point in his career.

show me on this chart how either is better than Tomlinson pleasehttp://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tab...mp;d-447263-n=1

Are you serious right now? The whole point i am attempting to get accross is the difference between TALENT, that is individual god given talent and circumstance and opportunity. And you bring up STATS? I'm seriously confused on whether you're just kidding around or serious with your posts.

You've been confusing them since the beginning. The opportunity isn't any better for either Carolina RB than LT2 has in NY. The talent- he's going to the HOF as one of the best ever due to his speed, incredible vision, etc and everyone incorrectly thought his skills had eroded. Stewart and Williams are nowhere near HOF players and as long as Tomlinson is playing well, he's better. You can't suddenly say a guy stinks because of his age if stats don't back it up. I'm not saying I didn't expect him to struggle some or hit a point etc but, he hasn't. There's nothing to show that if he had Greene's carries he wouldn't be rockin this year. Tomlinson's vision and hands will make him better than most NFL backs so long as he's still got some speed and moves.Physical measurables doesn't make you talented. If you don't think so watch Best today.