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[coolnerd]

Mawae is probably retiring leaving the center position up in the air so they either need to keep Kendall at center and acquire a new guard or draft/sign a new center.

Where did you read about Mawae retiring? - I've heard interviews with him talking about the new coaching staff and next year - He's done at least 2 interviews one on Sirius and one on WFAN where he's talked about the future of the Jets and the NFL with no mention of retiring..... He has a journal as well http://www.nflplayers.com/players/player.a...section=journal

You're right about Mawae, I had read a report that said he might retire but it looks like he's coming back. The Jets want him to come back for less money though.

Six-time Pro Bowl C Kevin Mawae, who turns 35 this month, said he'll be 100 percent recovered from his torn left triceps injury by the end of the month and hopes to return next season.

"I have no reason to believe I won't be back," said Mawae, who has a $4.5 million cap number in 2006.

Jets website Jan 2:

There are 78 days until the Jets are scheduled to meet up again in March for mini-camp and when they do many things will have changed, including the health of a few of their key players.  Chad Pennington, Martin, and Mawae all said Monday they expect to be fully recovered by the time the new season roles around and all expect to be at the top of their game.

From PFW:

Dec. 12, 2005

With starting quarterback the top priority for the Jets this offseason, we hear that they are disinclined to groom a rookie at the position in 2006. As a result, look for them to acquire a veteran like Drew Brees, Philip Rivers or Kerry Collins. The team would also like to bring back RB Curtis Martin at a reduced salary as a mentor to a rookie running back, with USC’s Reggie Bush topping the wish list. The team also will need to acquire a starting offensive tackle — either left or right, depending on where they want to play Adrian Jones. Center could also be in question, since we hear that the Jets want to move Pete Kendall back to guard. They are hopeful that Kevin Mawae, who will be 35 in January and coming off a torn triceps injury, will be able to come back at a reduced salary.

If Bush is at the top of the Jets wish list (per article) would they be the team that moves up to number 1 to the Texans??? What would you as a Jets fan be willing to give up if this is the direction that the Jets management wants to go???

 

[CalBear]

Who's the top place kicker in the draft?

 

[brednbuddah]

As far as who the Jets might take.... very tough one to figure at this point, becuase even they don't know which direction they will go in. The Jets staff managed to get the much sought after Cutler to spend Wednesday night at a very long dinner meeting. Read into that what you may, but my take is they are also now looking at Cutler at 4. I see this: Cutler, Ferguson, Hawk, Williams the DE, or a trade down. In other words, all bets are off, and because of that, the Jets make doing any mock very dificult at this point.

There's no way The Jets would take Cutler at 4, but would try to bluff like hell to get a team like detroit(9) or arizona(10) to bite and pick up the extra draft pick(s). The Jets have so many obvious holes (OL, RB, CB, QB), not to mention the questions marks (DE, DT), that I would be surprised if they didn't trade out of #4. From what I've heard, this draft is deep on OL prospects. The extra picks to get a young line together would be the smart move. getting them signed is another issue...

 

[cstu]

DaBrick.

I wouldn't understand any other pick. Unfortunately they still have to deal with Pennington and there's still a slim chance he might make it back all the way. As much as I like Cutler, it's taking a big chance that could set the organization back a couple years if he flops. Getting Ferguson gives them a LT who is going to help the running game and give whomever is QB time to throw the ball. If Pennington does return, the last thing the Jets want is a bad LT allowing DE's to blindside him repeatedly. Ferguson is a rare talent and the safest pick in the draft.

A solid as D'Brick looks, and he has answered all the questions this week, the Jets line is similar to Houston's. It is weak on the interior; it was torn up by injury; they desperately need a right tackle, and they have one very good lineman-- Adrian Jones, Left Tackle. Jones can be moved, but then a rookie is starting at LT. That's troube no matter who the rookie is (unless he's Pace or Ogden and D'Brick isn't). With a solid LT on the team, Mawae coming back, they need a right tackle. It looks like they can get a very very good one with an early second rounder. Adrian Jones is a bad prospect for the right side and so is D'Brick. Why not take DeAngelo then Ryan O'Callaghan or Andrew Whitworth? Or Hawk or Mario Williams and a solid right tackle. O'Callaghan's been playing the right side this week and he hasn't been touched by two DE's who have beaten D'Brick this week.

One thing is for sure, with Cutler looking better than most expected, DeAngelo looking better than most expected, and D'Brick living up to expectations and shutting up the doubters, the Jets prospects for trading down are getting much better.

Im not sold on Jones as a LT. I am sold on the DaBrick. I think Jones is a much better asset at RT than LT. When you have a chance to take a franchise LT you take him and dont look back. even better, take Brick, and then take Brian Calhoun or Joseph Addai or Maurice Drew, or heck, Maroney might even fall to the top of 2nd. Even better, take Brick, then take Jean-Gilles, or Joseph, and then you have a line that can make adequate backs Houston and Blaylock look pretty good very soon.

This is from a Jets fan in another forum, but I think he has this about right.

Adrian Jones is 6'4 296 and has incredible footwork for a man his size...sound familiar??? Jones is only 24 years old and in his second year at a new position playing at the highest level of competition in the world, with that considerd, he had a great year last year and started all 16 games. D'bricksaw missed time this season due to injuries. The Jets have no neeed at LT, in fact it is one of the few positions where we have our player for the future already in place. Am I saying that it is impossible that we draft D'Brickshaw?...no. He is incredibly talented and we could start him and Adrian together and just ask one of them to put on 10 - 15 extra pounds over the off-season, because really there isn't to big of a difference between LT and RT except that one is protecting the QB's bilind spot (usually LT but with a lefty QB its the RT) so they shold be more athletic and better in pass protection then the RT. Now usually you want the big mauler RT to help out more with the run game because the more athletic LT isnt going to be running people over. I dont think that Adrian can become a mauling, road grader type of tackle because thats just not his game. I dont think he'll be as effective playing at a higher weight then he is at already. I think D'Brikshaw could bulk up to around 315 - 320 and be real good in the passing game and the running game, but I would rather we trade down or go in a different direction with the pick (LenDale, Mario Williams, AJ Hawk, Vince Young would be great if he fell) becase we could draft a great RT in the 2nd (Marcus McNeil, Ryan O'Callaghan, Andrew Whitworth) and then a solid G and C in the 3rd, one of the 4th's, or the 5th and you throw in Brandon Moore and we have a real good looking young O-line.

I like his argument. AJ is not a prospect for RT. He is a converted TE perfectly suited for LT, and he did a nice job last season. I fell in love with D'Brick watching him practice this week, but I think the Jets would be making a very small mistake if they take him. Their best move is moving down and trying for an extra second rounder. Their defense is a huge issue. Trade down and add Greenway, OCallaghan/Whitworth, and Calhoun??

Adrian Jones is developing, but he's not a natural LT like Ferguson. AJ was to be the RT but showed that he was better at LT than Fabini (Herm Edwards said he was going to make the switch of Jones to LT and Fabini to RT permanent - probably so since there's a good chance Fabini will be released because of his $4.5 million cap number in 2006). As well as AJ has played, I still think passing on Ferguson would be a mistake since he can be the elite LT that AJ likely will never be and if Fabini is gone they need a RT. Mawae looks like he may be retire, which would mean moving Kendall from G to C permanently and leaving a hole a G. I think with an OL of Ferguson at LT, Kendall at C, and AJ at RT, the Jets would have the makings of a top OL.

With Kendall and Fabina getting cut, the OL is in for a rough time. Mawae looks like he'll return, but the only other good OL is Adrian Jones.

 

[glock]

DaBrick.

I wouldn't understand any other pick. Unfortunately they still have to deal with Pennington and there's still a slim chance he might make it back all the way. As much as I like Cutler, it's taking a big chance that could set the organization back a couple years if he flops. Getting Ferguson gives them a LT who is going to help the running game and give whomever is QB time to throw the ball. If Pennington does return, the last thing the Jets want is a bad LT allowing DE's to blindside him repeatedly. Ferguson is a rare talent and the safest pick in the draft.

A solid as D'Brick looks, and he has answered all the questions this week, the Jets line is similar to Houston's. It is weak on the interior; it was torn up by injury; they desperately need a right tackle, and they have one very good lineman-- Adrian Jones, Left Tackle. Jones can be moved, but then a rookie is starting at LT. That's troube no matter who the rookie is (unless he's Pace or Ogden and D'Brick isn't). With a solid LT on the team, Mawae coming back, they need a right tackle. It looks like they can get a very very good one with an early second rounder. Adrian Jones is a bad prospect for the right side and so is D'Brick. Why not take DeAngelo then Ryan O'Callaghan or Andrew Whitworth? Or Hawk or Mario Williams and a solid right tackle. O'Callaghan's been playing the right side this week and he hasn't been touched by two DE's who have beaten D'Brick this week.

One thing is for sure, with Cutler looking better than most expected, DeAngelo looking better than most expected, and D'Brick living up to expectations and shutting up the doubters, the Jets prospects for trading down are getting much better.

Im not sold on Jones as a LT. I am sold on the DaBrick. I think Jones is a much better asset at RT than LT. When you have a chance to take a franchise LT you take him and dont look back. even better, take Brick, and then take Brian Calhoun or Joseph Addai or Maurice Drew, or heck, Maroney might even fall to the top of 2nd. Even better, take Brick, then take Jean-Gilles, or Joseph, and then you have a line that can make adequate backs Houston and Blaylock look pretty good very soon.

This is from a Jets fan in another forum, but I think he has this about right.

Adrian Jones is 6'4 296 and has incredible footwork for a man his size...sound familiar??? Jones is only 24 years old and in his second year at a new position playing at the highest level of competition in the world, with that considerd, he had a great year last year and started all 16 games. D'bricksaw missed time this season due to injuries. The Jets have no neeed at LT, in fact it is one of the few positions where we have our player for the future already in place. Am I saying that it is impossible that we draft D'Brickshaw?...no. He is incredibly talented and we could start him and Adrian together and just ask one of them to put on 10 - 15 extra pounds over the off-season, because really there isn't to big of a difference between LT and RT except that one is protecting the QB's bilind spot (usually LT but with a lefty QB its the RT) so they shold be more athletic and better in pass protection then the RT. Now usually you want the big mauler RT to help out more with the run game because the more athletic LT isnt going to be running people over. I dont think that Adrian can become a mauling, road grader type of tackle because thats just not his game.  I dont think he'll be as effective playing at a higher weight then he is at already.  I think D'Brikshaw could bulk up to around 315 - 320 and be real good in the passing game and the running game, but I would rather we trade down or go in a different direction with the pick (LenDale, Mario Williams, AJ Hawk, Vince Young would be great if he fell) becase we could draft a great RT in the 2nd (Marcus McNeil, Ryan O'Callaghan, Andrew Whitworth) and then a solid G and C in the 3rd, one of the 4th's, or the 5th and you throw in Brandon Moore and we have a real good looking young O-line.

I like his argument. AJ is not a prospect for RT. He is a converted TE perfectly suited for LT, and he did a nice job last season. I fell in love with D'Brick watching him practice this week, but I think the Jets would be making a very small mistake if they take him. Their best move is moving down and trying for an extra second rounder. Their defense is a huge issue. Trade down and add Greenway, OCallaghan/Whitworth, and Calhoun??

Adrian Jones is developing, but he's not a natural LT like Ferguson. AJ was to be the RT but showed that he was better at LT than Fabini (Herm Edwards said he was going to make the switch of Jones to LT and Fabini to RT permanent - probably so since there's a good chance Fabini will be released because of his $4.5 million cap number in 2006). As well as AJ has played, I still think passing on Ferguson would be a mistake since he can be the elite LT that AJ likely will never be and if Fabini is gone they need a RT. Mawae looks like he may be retire, which would mean moving Kendall from G to C permanently and leaving a hole a G. I think with an OL of Ferguson at LT, Kendall at C, and AJ at RT, the Jets would have the makings of a top OL.

With Kendall and Fabina getting cut, the OL is in for a rough time. Mawae looks like he'll return, but the only other good OL is Adrian Jones.

Newsday

...Mawae, coming off surgery to repair a torn left triceps, apparently will refuse to take a pay cut and will ask the Jets to release him if they can't handle his projected $4.5-million cap figure.

 

[cstu]

Adrian Jones is developing, but he's not a natural LT like Ferguson. AJ was to be the RT but showed that he was better at LT than Fabini (Herm Edwards said he was going to make the switch of Jones to LT and Fabini to RT permanent - probably so since there's a good chance Fabini will be released because of his $4.5 million cap number in 2006). As well as AJ has played, I still think passing on Ferguson would be a mistake since he can be the elite LT that AJ likely will never be and if Fabini is gone they need a RT. Mawae looks like he may be retire, which would mean moving Kendall from G to C permanently and leaving a hole a G. I think with an OL of Ferguson at LT, Kendall at C, and AJ at RT, the Jets would have the makings of a top OL.

With Kendall and Fabina getting cut, the OL is in for a rough time. Mawae looks like he'll return, but the only other good OL is Adrian Jones.

Newsday

...Mawae, coming off surgery to repair a torn left triceps, apparently will refuse to take a pay cut and will ask the Jets to release him if they can't handle his projected $4.5-million cap figure.

If that happens they had better draft D'Brick.

 

[Rovers]

Adrian Jones is developing, but he's not a natural LT like Ferguson.  AJ was to be the RT but showed that he was better at LT than Fabini (Herm Edwards said he was going to make the switch of Jones to LT and Fabini to RT permanent - probably so since there's a good chance Fabini will be released because of his $4.5 million cap number in 2006).  As well as AJ has played, I still think passing on Ferguson would be a mistake since he can be the elite LT that AJ likely will never be and if Fabini is gone they need a RT.  Mawae looks like he may be retire, which would mean moving Kendall from G to C permanently and leaving a hole a G.  I think with an OL of Ferguson at LT, Kendall at C, and AJ at RT, the Jets would have the makings of a top OL.

With Kendall and Fabina getting cut, the OL is in for a rough time. Mawae looks like he'll return, but the only other good OL is Adrian Jones.

Newsday

...Mawae, coming off surgery to repair a torn left triceps, apparently will refuse to take a pay cut and will ask the Jets to release him if they can't handle his projected $4.5-million cap figure.

If that happens they had better draft D'Brick.

Why, is D'Brick a center?

 

[LBH]

I'd love for the Jets to trade up and try and get Bush. I don't see that happening though. If I was to guess, I would say they will wait and see what comes to them, and if any of the top 3 are gone, I think they will try and trade down to aquire picks. I think they will be looking at QB,OL, and RB. In that order

 

[cstu]

Adrian Jones is developing, but he's not a natural LT like Ferguson. AJ was to be the RT but showed that he was better at LT than Fabini (Herm Edwards said he was going to make the switch of Jones to LT and Fabini to RT permanent - probably so since there's a good chance Fabini will be released because of his $4.5 million cap number in 2006). As well as AJ has played, I still think passing on Ferguson would be a mistake since he can be the elite LT that AJ likely will never be and if Fabini is gone they need a RT. Mawae looks like he may be retire, which would mean moving Kendall from G to C permanently and leaving a hole a G. I think with an OL of Ferguson at LT, Kendall at C, and AJ at RT, the Jets would have the makings of a top OL.

With Kendall and Fabina getting cut, the OL is in for a rough time. Mawae looks like he'll return, but the only other good OL is Adrian Jones.

Newsday

...Mawae, coming off surgery to repair a torn left triceps, apparently will refuse to take a pay cut and will ask the Jets to release him if they can't handle his projected $4.5-million cap figure.

If that happens they had better draft D'Brick.

Why, is D'Brick a center?

No, but the OL will be so terrible that it would be a waste to draft any other position.

 

[LBH]

found this on a jet fan message board

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NY DAILY NEWS

By Gary Myers

The Chad Pennington era with the Jets appears to be in its final days and the Jay Cutler era could be two months from opening.

Even before they insulted Pennington with their offer to slice his pay this year from $9 million to $1 million, the Jets needed to find a new quarterback. They can't count on Pennington, not after two surgeries on his throwing shoulder less than one year apart.

Where do the Jets go from here?

"They have to do something dramatic," one GM said.

The most immediate problem for the Jets is they are picking fourth in a three-player draft. Here's how the top three likely will come off the board: USC RB Reggie Bush to Houston, USC QB Matt Leinart to New Orleans and Texas QB Vince Young to Tennessee.

Unless Leinart or Young slip to No. 4, or Mike Tannenbaum finds a way to move up to get one of them - neither scenario is likely - the Jets should take Cutler, the Vanderbilt QB who has been shooting up draft boards after a strong week of practice at the Senior Bowl last month, and sign a veteran to babysit him.

So, in order, here's our list of who is most likely to be the Jets' QB next season:

Jay Cutler, Vanderbilt: "Cutler has got a real strong arm and he's athletic," said one GM, who added that Cutler could turn out better than Young and Leinart.

Matt Schaub, Falcons: A third-round pick from Virginia, he's started two games in his two seasons in Atlanta. His start last season came against the Patriots - he threw for 298 yards with three TDs with no INTs in a 31-28 loss. If Atlanta would take a No. 2 for him, you make that trade. "He's big, real smart, has an above average arm," the GM said. "He's not a great athlete. He doesn't get rattled."

Matt Leinart, USC/Vince Young, Texas: It would be hard for Tannenbaum, in his first draft, to give up valuable picks to pull off a blockbuster deal to move up to get one of these guys. But it would be a great move if he did. The Saints are a virtual lock to take Leinart and get rid of Aaron Brooks.

Chris Simms, Bucs: The Jets could have had him for a No. 1 pick after Pennington was injured last season. Then Brian Griese was hurt and Simms took over. He's a restricted free agent and the Bucs will certainly tender him at a level requiring first- and third-round picks as compensation. He's got a big-time arm, excellent bloodlines and could handle New York, but it's tough to see Jon Gruden letting him go.

Patrick Ramsey, Redskins: He got beaten out twice by Mark Brunell, which tells you all you need to know about him. Joe Gibbs even drafted Jason Campbell in the first round last year to be Washington's QB of the future. Ramsey has ability and needs a change of scenery. But Gibbs isn't often wrong about QBs. He would be worth a mid-round pick.

Kerry Collins, Raiders: He's 7-26 in his last 33 starts with the Giants and Raiders. If Al Davis cuts him, he could wind up with Jim Fassel in Baltimore.

Drew Brees, Chargers: One problem: Brees tore the labrum in his throwing shoulder in the final game of the year and needed surgery. Just what the Jets need after Pennington, right?

Philip Rivers, Chargers: San Diego already paid his $14.5 million in bonuses and his base salaries are manageable. But Brees' injury makes him untouchable and perhaps the Chargers' starter.

Jon Kitna, Bengals: Carson Palmer's knee injury means it's imperative for Cincy to re-sign Kitna.

Aaron Brooks, Saints: Underachieved all those years with New Orleans.

Daunte Culpepper, Vikings: Could be traded, but his '06 availability is in doubt after tearing three knee ligaments last season.

Brian Griese, Bucs: He lost his job to Simms after suffering a season-ending knee injury and could be a cap casualty. Would be a good short-term fill-in.

Josh McCown, Cardinals: They elected to keep Kurt Warner instead. Is he any better than Brooks Bollinger?

NYDN

 

[Festivus]

Trade up to #1 to take Leinert.

 

[Bonzai]

thought i'd bump this.

with N.O. bringing in brees, it looks like D'Brick will not be available to the jets.

if not, do they grab mario williams here? even after they aquired kimo? he may be the best player available, but they have needs elsewhere.

young seems like he's out of the equation, but cutler is a possability. but with them bringing in ramsey i don't see them going qb. almost every mock i see is either cutler, williams or d'brick. i can absolutely see d'brick if he's there, but the other 2 i'm not sold on.

what about deangelo williams there? they guys has been nothing but impressive this offseason and is one of the most successful backs in college history. cmart is ancient and recently took a paycut, so obviously changes are ahead. houston looked ok, but can he really be the guy? and doesn't he have some thyroid condition? i can absolutely see the jets going with williams at #4.

williams just seems like a game changer and i'm surprised he's not mentioned more often at the top of the draft. anybody disagree?

 

[Reaper]

Today... I'm going with Mario Williams...

Unless they think one of the QB's is the goods....

Then definitely OL with the 29th pick - Maybe Mangold or one of the Tackles.

 

[Kiddnets]

No way Williams at #4 -

if Brick, Bush and Leinart are off the board they will either grab Mario, Cutler or trade down IMO.

I think its a mistake grabbing Mario - why trade a sure fire pass rusher for the #29 and spend the #4 (along with a ton of money) on another pass rusher. I think they go for the QB - franchise QBs are rare - if Cutler grades out he will be picked - or they trade down a few spots to get him

 

[Rovers]

The Jets are still a wild card here. I think the LEAST likely move is an RB though. Leinart, Cutler, Mario Williams, Ngata, Hawk or a trade down are what I see as the most likely things to happen. I just don't buy into the Ferguson hype for the Jets. This draft is DEEEEEP in O linemen. With three picks in the top 35, they could get two... Mangold, McNiell, Gilles, Justice.... the list is long, and still take a playmaker at 4. That would be more in line with the strategy pedigree of Parcells and Beli.

 

[brednbuddah]

Today... I'm going with Mario Williams...

Unless they think one of the QB's is the goods....

Then definitely OL with the 29th pick - Maybe Mangold or one of the Tackles.

, and they will also use #35 on OL unless someone slides.

 

[Bonzai]

so why not deangelo?

he's certainly the caliber player of cutler or mario. and its an obvious need for the team. i'm not saying that they definitely take him, i'm just wondering why he's not in the conversation.

 

[Reaper]

so why not deangelo? 

he's certainly the caliber player of cutler or mario.  and its an obvious need for the team.  i'm not saying that they definitely take him, i'm just wondering why he's not in the conversation.

Because they are rebuilding and will have a high draft pick next year to grab a RB. This year they need to build the Lines up - especially the OL - No need to get some rookie RB killed and get the QB killed with his blocking at this point...

I like the picks above Mario Plus 2 OL.....

Also - They can see what they have in Houston plus use Martin and Blaylock.

 

[Bonzai]

so why not deangelo? 

he's certainly the caliber player of cutler or mario.  and its an obvious need for the team.  i'm not saying that they definitely take him, i'm just wondering why he's not in the conversation.

Because they are rebuilding and will have a high draft pick next year to grab a RB. This year they need to build the Lines up - especially the OL - No need to get some rookie RB killed and get the QB killed with his blocking at this point...

I like the picks above Mario Plus 2 OL.....

Also - They can see what they have in Houston plus use Martin and Blaylock.

you could make the same argument and just substitute RB for QB:Because they are rebuilding and will have a high draft pick next year to grab a QB.

This year they need to build the Lines up - especially the OL - No need to get some rookie QB killed

Also - They can see what they have in Ramsey and Penny.

 

[Z-Dog]

The Jets missed out on all the RTs (Ashworth, Runyan, and Hopkins - he'll retire, I think), which may get you thinking that they'll draft Ferguson. I don't think they will though. I think they are happy with Adrian Jones, and will look for a veteran to plug in after the 6/1 cuts to go along with Cavka and another mid-round rookie for the RT slot. I think they prefer that to bringing in Ferguson at 1.04.

I'm convinced that the Jets want a QB at 1.04. I don't know which one, but that's the direction that I think they will go in. When you run a 3-4, you get your pass rush out of the WE/LB, and those guys can usually be found for cheap later in the draft, so I don't think Mario is a fit. I certainly don't see an RB in round 1, not with a deep RB class and the Jets having 1.29 and 2.04 (although I honestly don't think they go RB there either - Blaylock and Houston are cheap, so neither is likely to get cut). AJ Hawke? Maybe, maybe. Still, with Vilma in the middle, it seems unlikely.

 

[AmpLee]

so why not deangelo?

he's certainly the caliber player of cutler or mario. and its an obvious need for the team. i'm not saying that they definitely take him, i'm just wondering why he's not in the conversation.

If the Jets grab DeAngelo at #4, their fans will riot like never before. I think they either go QB or trade the pick up or down....

 

[Rovers]

so why not deangelo? 

he's certainly the caliber player of cutler or mario.  and its an obvious need for the team.  i'm not saying that they definitely take him, i'm just wondering why he's not in the conversation.

Because they are rebuilding and will have a high draft pick next year to grab a RB. This year they need to build the Lines up - especially the OL - No need to get some rookie RB killed and get the QB killed with his blocking at this point...

I like the picks above Mario Plus 2 OL.....

Also - They can see what they have in Houston plus use Martin and Blaylock.

you could make the same argument and just substitute RB for QB:Because they are rebuilding and will have a high draft pick next year to grab a QB.

This year they need to build the Lines up - especially the OL - No need to get some rookie QB killed

Also - They can see what they have in Ramsey and Penny.

Rookie RB's can step in and start..... that is rare for a rookie QB though. That's the difference. It takes a year for a rookie QB to get coached out of his bad mechanics, and learn not only the offensive playbook, but how to read NFL defenses. Then, they usually need a minimum of a year as a starter to play well, and that's being optomistic. The Jets with another high draft pick next year can wait on the RB.... but not the QB. What do we know about Pennington and Ramsey? One is a china doll, the other has been deemed a bust by two NFL HC's that are supposed to have an eye for QB's. If they don't draft a QB, I'll be on suicide watch.