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Obama's True Legacy: 95 Million Americans NOT in Labor Force. Up 18% since he took office. (1 Viewer)

Dedfin said:
You could probably swing the injury on day 1 if you play your cards right.  Maybe @Loan Sharks could flesh out the details with this plan.  I wanna be rich!
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No dice.  I'm a computer programmer.   I need to know if I can just sneak into a factory and cut my arm off and still get the big pay day. 

 
NutterButter said:
No dice.  I'm a computer programmer.   I need to know if I can just sneak into a factory and cut my arm off and still get the big pay day. 
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I think your best bet may be a nasty case of carpal tunnel :kicksrock:   I'm kinda in the same boat as you, which sucks.  Hopefully LS can give us some get rich/no work ideas though.

 
Higgs said:
"Infectious love and confidence in America"?  Really?  He's been criticized over and over for going out of his way to downplay American exceptionalism.  Michelle was "for the first time proud of America" only after he got elected, and now that he is leaving, she has gone back to "not having any hope".  I don't know, I think of Obama more as a globalist who thinks America was too high and mighty in the world stage, and sought throughout his Presidency to make us more right sized.  I do like the rest of what you posted though.
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I think he was/is right about that.  It baffles me that people who have lived here their whole lives just believe that we are the best and we are always right.  Take a look at our government, the people who run it, and tell me why I would trust/admire/believe in them any more than I would trust some other country and their leaders?

 
Johnnymac said:
I think he was/is right about that.  It baffles me that people who have lived here their whole lives just believe that we are the best and we are always right.  Take a look at our government, the people who run it, and tell me why I would trust/admire/believe in them any more than I would trust some other country and their leaders?
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We have our problems but in the grand scheme of things I feel pretty strongly that we are the greatest country in the world, and it's not even close.  I'm sorry Michelle Obama doesn't feel proud of our country, or hopeful, unless her husband is President.  I think it says a lot about her true feelings, and her husband's.  You can't hide your true feelings.  They come out in the way you speak, the things you elect to say and not say, the way you elect on the 75th anniversary of VJ Day to not mention that in your weekly address but to choose instead to talk about the anniversary of Michael Brown, the way the Democratic Convention didn't have any visible American flags on the stage for the first couple of days...  

 
Higgs said:
"Infectious love and confidence in America"?  Really?  He's been criticized over and over for going out of his way to downplay American exceptionalism.  Michelle was "for the first time proud of America" only after he got elected, and now that he is leaving, she has gone back to "not having any hope".  I don't know, I think of Obama more as a globalist who thinks America was too high and mighty in the world stage, and sought throughout his Presidency to make us more right sized.  I do like the rest of what you posted though.
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I think so.  Sure some have built up defenses and immune to seeing and feeling the spirit of something like his Selma speech but YES, really!

[SIZE=14.5pt]Fellow marchers, so much has changed in fifty years. We’ve endured war, and fashioned peace. We’ve seen technological wonders that touch every aspect of our lives, and take for granted convenience our parents might scarcely imagine. But what has not changed is the imperative of citizenship, that willingness of a 26 year-old deacon, or a Unitarian minister, or a young mother of five, to decide they loved this country so much that they’d risk everything to realize its promise. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=14.5pt]That’s what it means to love America. That’s what it means to believe in America. That’s what it means when we say America is exceptional. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=14.5pt]For we were born of change. We broke the old aristocracies, declaring ourselves entitled not by bloodline, but endowed by our Creator with certain unalienable rights. We secure our rights and responsibilities through a system of self-government, of and by and for the people. That’s why we argue and fight with so much passion and conviction, because we know our efforts matter. We know America is what we make of it. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=14.5pt]We are Lewis and Clark and Sacajawea – pioneers who braved the unfamiliar, followed by a stampede of farmers and miners, entrepreneurs and hucksters. That’s our spirit. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=14.5pt]We are Sojourner Truth and Fannie Lou Hamer, women who could do as much as any man and then some; and we’re Susan B. Anthony, who shook the system until the law reflected that truth. That’s our character. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=14.5pt]We’re the immigrants who stowed away on ships to reach these shores, the huddled masses yearning to breathe free – Holocaust survivors, Soviet defectors, the Lost Boys of Sudan. We are the hopeful strivers who cross the Rio Grande because they want their kids to know a better life. That’s how we came to be. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=14.5pt]We’re the slaves who built the White House and the economy of the South. We’re the ranch hands and cowboys who opened the West, and countless laborers who laid rail, and raised skyscrapers, and organized for workers’ rights. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=14.5pt]We’re the fresh-faced GIs who fought to liberate a continent, and we’re the Tuskeegee Airmen, Navajo code-talkers, and Japanese-Americans who fought for this country even as their own liberty had been denied. We’re the firefighters who rushed into those buildings on 9/11, and the volunteers who signed up to fight in Afghanistan and Iraq. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=14.5pt]We are the gay Americans whose blood ran on the streets of San Francisco and New York, just as blood ran down this bridge. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=14.5pt]We are storytellers, writers, poets, and artists who abhor unfairness, and despise hypocrisy, and give voice to the voiceless, and tell truths that need to be told. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=14.5pt]We are the inventors of gospel and jazz and the blues, bluegrass and country, hip-hop and rock and roll, our very own sounds with all the sweet sorrow and reckless joy of freedom. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=14.5pt]We are Jackie Robinson, enduring scorn and spiked cleats and pitches coming straight to his head, and stealing home in the World Series anyway. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=14.5pt]We are the people Langston Hughes wrote of, who “build our temples for tomorrow, strong as we know how.” [/SIZE]

[SIZE=14.5pt]We are the people Emerson wrote of, “who for truth and honor’s sake stand fast and suffer long;” who are “never tired, so long as we can see far enough.” [/SIZE]

[SIZE=14.5pt]That’s what America is. Not stock photos or airbrushed history or feeble attempts to define some of us as more American as others. We respect the past, but we don’t pine for it. We don’t fear the future; we grab for it. America is not some fragile thing; we are large, in the words of Whitman, containing multitudes. We are boisterous and diverse and full of energy, perpetually young in spirit. That’s why someone like John Lewis at the ripe age of 25 could lead a mighty march. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=14.5pt]And that’s what the young people here today and listening all across the country must take away from this day. You are America. Unconstrained by habits and convention. Unencumbered by what is, and ready to seize what ought to be. For everywhere in this country, there are first steps to be taken, and new ground to cover, and bridges to be crossed. And it is you, the young and fearless at heart, the most diverse and educated generation in our history, who the nation is waiting to follow.Because Selma shows us that America is not the project of any one person. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=14.5pt]Because the single most powerful word in our democracy is the word “We.” We The People. We Shall Overcome. Yes We Can. It is owned by no one. It belongs to everyone. Oh, what a glorious task we are given, to continually try to improve this great nation of ours[/SIZE]

[SIZE=14.5pt].Fifty years from Bloody Sunday, our march is not yet finished. But we are getting closer. Two hundred and thirty-nine years after this nation’s founding, our union is not yet perfect. But we are getting closer. Our job’s easier because somebody already got us through that first mile. Somebody already got us over that bridge. When it feels the road’s too hard, when the torch we’ve been passed feels too heavy, we will remember these early travelers, and draw strength from their example, and hold firmly the words of the prophet Isaiah: [/SIZE]

[SIZE=14.5pt]“Those who hope in the Lord will renew their strength. They will soar on wings like eagles. They will run and not grow weary. They will walk and not be faint.” [/SIZE]

[SIZE=14.5pt]We honor those who walked so we could run. We must run so our children soar. And we will not grow weary. For we believe in the power of an awesome God, and we believe in this country’s sacred promise. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=14.5pt]May He bless those warriors of justice no longer with us, and bless the United States of America. [/SIZE]

 
Higgs said:
We have our problems but in the grand scheme of things I feel pretty strongly that we are the greatest country in the world, and it's not even close.  I'm sorry Michelle Obama doesn't feel proud of our country, or hopeful, unless her husband is President.  I think it says a lot about her true feelings, and her husband's.  You can't hide your true feelings.  They come out in the way you speak, the things you elect to say and not say, the way you elect on the 75th anniversary of VJ Day to not mention that in your weekly address but to choose instead to talk about the anniversary of Michael Brown, the way the Democratic Convention didn't have any visible American flags on the stage for the first couple of days...  
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We probably are, I really dont know.  I browse reddit daily and see lots of posts from people who live all over the world and like just about everything else, some of the differences you read about and say to yourself, damn I wish we could do that here, or conversely, damn Im glad we dont have to put up with that here.  Its sort of like anything else, positives and negatives.  My point is that I really cant say what is the best place to live when this is the only place that I have lived.  I do understand why people believe it is the best, and it probably is and I'm probably wrong.  I would like to compare for myself.  It would be great if we could just simulate what its like to live anywhere in the world, sort of like test driving a new car for a while.  My guess is somebody is already working on that.

 
Johnnymac said:
We probably are, I really dont know.  I browse reddit daily and see lots of posts from people who live all over the world and like just about everything else, some of the differences you read about and say to yourself, damn I wish we could do that here, or conversely, damn Im glad we dont have to put up with that here.  Its sort of like anything else, positives and negatives.  My point is that I really cant say what is the best place to live when this is the only place that I have lived.  I do understand why people believe it is the best, and it probably is and I'm probably wrong.  I would like to compare for myself.  It would be great if we could just simulate what its like to live anywhere in the world, sort of like test driving a new car for a while.  My guess is somebody is already working on that.
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You should do it.  I lived overseas for a year and it forever changed the way I think about this country.  You can also talk to people who have emigrated here to get their perspective.  Personally I love listening to Dinesh D'Souza talk about America.  Now that is what infectious love for America sounds like.  Give this a listen when you get a chance.  It's really a great piece.  https://youtu.be/qhQYFx3hBVw

 
Higgs said:
You should do it.  I lived overseas for a year and it forever changed the way I think about this country.  You can also talk to people who have emigrated here to get their perspective.  Personally I love listening to Dinesh D'Souza talk about America.  Now that is what infectious love for America sounds like.  Give this a listen when you get a chance.  It's really a great piece.  https://youtu.be/qhQYFx3hBVw
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I listened to some of the debate back and forth and I agree with some of what D'Souza says and some of what Ayers says.  Overall, I lean on Ayers side.  The problem is I strongly disagree with much of what D'Souza says and not so much with Ayers.  I think some of the things D'Souza believes are crazy.  I do agree with him on freedom though, something we seem to have less and less of as time goes by. 

 
HellToupee said:
I don't consider no college uneducated. How does going to a college make you "educated ". 

I graduated from Dartmouth , should I look at someone that graduated from a CC or low level state school as educated or uneducated? 
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He defined uneducated as no college and/or no trade skills and your inference was that he thinks people with a degree from a low-level state school should be considered uneducated?

 
Ministry of Pain said:
I will say this. If a certain % are due to age or retirement,
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This is a perfect example of why you are consistantly bashed I political threads MOP.  You start a thread with an extremely strong title and opinion, only to make it perfectly clear with the sentence above that you haven't spent 5 minutes googling and reading why the problem you're so outraged about exists.  

 
tommyGunZ said:
This is a perfect example of why you are consistantly bashed I political threads MOP.  You start a thread with an extremely strong title and opinion, only to make it perfectly clear with the sentence above that you haven't spent 5 minutes googling and reading why the problem you're so outraged about exists.  
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But he's so impervious to facts, that no matter what anyone shows him or he looks up himself, his original opinion remains intact.

 
Dedfin said:
He wanted to remind people he has a degree from Dartmouth (spurious)
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So Dedfin - you going to man up and come out of the closet?  Or are you going to hide behind the mask?  Is is cstu or dparker713?  I won't tell.

 
Higgs said:
It's a joke isn't it?  I went to an Ivy League school as well and I say all the time that the best educational experience I ever had, the learnings that were most influential in my life and my ability to think critically came at Hartford Public High School.  And that's the absolute truth.  College is over-rated.
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Yep I'm pretty sure I came out of college with less brain cells than when I arrived. 

 
Higgs said:
So Dedfin - you going to man up and come out of the closet?  Or are you going to hide behind the mask?  Is is cstu or dparker713?  I won't tell.
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That's ok.  I understand.  You're shy.  I'll figure it out.  I love a good mystery.  Right now I'm leaning towards matuski.

 
Dedfin said:
You could probably swing the injury on day 1 if you play your cards right.  Maybe @Loan Sharks could flesh out the details with this plan.  I wanna be rich!
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It is not so much a plan as a documentary of a hillbilly I know. He got booted out of the army on after he "accidentally" hurt himself. Then he got a job at a factory and "accidentally" got his arm stuck in a box making machine. So he loves to make fun of suckers who have to work for a living. It happens. 

 
Loan Sharks said:
It is not so much a plan as a documentary of a hillbilly I know. He got booted out of the army on after he "accidentally" hurt himself. Then he got a job at a factory and "accidentally" got his arm stuck in a box making machine. So he loves to make fun of suckers who have to work for a living. It happens. 
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Dominant or non-dominant arm? What state? Did he settle the claim?

 
No outrage from the Left on Obama eliminating 'Wet foot,  dry foot' two weeks before leaving office?  I guess that's not discrimination or hatred. Always interesting the hypocrisy from the other side.  Supports everything that enforces their point of view.  Don't care about the rest. 

 
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flapgreen said:
No outrage from the Left on Obama eliminating 'Wet foot,  dry foot' two weeks before leaving office?  I guess that's not discrimination or hatred. Always interesting the hypocrisy from the other side.  Supports everything that enforces their point of view.  Don't care about the rest. 
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Can you unpack the hypocrisy for me?

 
flapgreen said:
No outrage from the Left on Obama eliminating 'Wet foot,  dry foot' two weeks before leaving office?  I guess that's not discrimination or hatred. Always interesting the hypocrisy from the other side.  Supports everything that enforces their point of view.  Don't care about the rest. 
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Digging deep here I see.  Hatred and discrimination?  lol

 
flapgreen said:
No outrage from the Left on Obama eliminating 'Wet foot,  dry foot' two weeks before leaving office?  I guess that's not discrimination or hatred. Always interesting the hypocrisy from the other side.  Supports everything that enforces their point of view.  Don't care about the rest. 
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It's an interesting and somewhat complex issue. This article provides a good summary. 

http://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2017/01/15/509895837/end-of-wet-foot-dry-foot-means-cubans-can-join-ranks-of-the-undocumented

 
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