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*** OFFICAL 2009 Chargers Off Season Thread *** (1 Viewer)

Acee mentions the possibility of the Chargers trading down in the 1st round, or out of it in his blog. I wonder if they can make that happen. I've been somewhat underwhelmed with their likely pool of choices with their pick given many mock drafts, and I've read some people think they like Donald Brown who could be had in the 2nd (where they currently don't have a pick).
I think AJ would love to move down for a couple picks if it includes a low 2nd. If there's a deal out there where he can slide down and grab Brown, I think he'll do it in a heartbeat. The key will be how the draft starts. I doubt there's anyone clamoring to jump up to the 16 today, but if there's someone sliding down the board on draft day that another team covets, that's when AJ might be able to make a move. I feel pretty confident in management's recent drafts, so I'm cautiously optimistic heading into this one.
 
Rey

Rey

Rey

I hope they get him at 16, I wanna get one of those sweet throwback jerseys with the patch on it. Want it to be a Rey! Jersey

The last time we took a ILB from the islands from USC his name was .................................SEAU!

 
Larry English

Overview

English is a two-time Vern Smith Leadership Award recipient, given to the Mid-American Conference's top player, as voted on by league coaches. He is just the second defensive player to ever receive that honor, as Central Michigan linebacker Ray Bentley captured the inaugural award in 1982. English is also only the fourth player to earn that award twice in a career, joining quarterbacks Brian McClure of Bowling Green (1984-85), Erik White of Bowling Green (1991-92) and Byron Leftwich of Marshall (2001-02).

One of the premier pass rushers in the collegiate game, English ranks second to Phillip Hunt of Houston (33.5 sacks for minus 229 yards) among the NCAA's active players with 31.5 sacks for losses totaling 220 yards. His 31.5 sacks set the school all-time record and rank fifth in Mid-American Conference history. That total also ranks seventh in NCAA annals. His five sacks vs. Idaho in 2007 is topped by just two other players on the NCAA single-game record books.

English wreaked havoc in the opposing backfields throughout his career. His 63.0 tackles behind the line of scrimmage set the school career record and rank fifth on the NCAA all-time record chart (the NCAA began compiling sack and tackle for loss totals beginning in 2000), as he is just the seventh player in major college annals to register 60 or more tackles for loss since those statistics were recognized by the NCAA.

English attended Marmion Military Academy, where the team co-captain and MVP was regarded as one of the most feared players in the Suburban Catholic Conference. The first- team All-SCC, Aurora Beacon-News All-Area, Daily Herald Tri-City All-Area and honorable mention IHSFCA All-State as a senior, he totaled 98 tackles and six sacks from his inside linebacker position and rushed for 312 yards on 38 carries (8.2 avg) as a fullback, despite being hampered early in that season by an ankle sprain that limited him to seven games.

English was named team MVP, first-team All-SCC, Aurora Beacon-News All-Area and Daily Herald Tri-City All-Area as a junior. He led the Tri-City area with 100 tackles, and added two interceptions along with two fumble recoveries. In addition to earning three letters in football, he also threw the discus for the track team as a freshman and added three more letters in basketball. The Honor Roll student was selected team captain in basketball. He received All-SCC and All-Area honors as a junior on the hardwood.

English turned down a scholarship offer from the University of Iowa, enrolling at Northern Illinois in 2004. He made four tackles vs. Maryland in his collegiate debut, but suffered a shoulder injury that would sideline him for the rest of the season, earning a medical hardship. In 2005, English started nine games at right defensive end, moving up from fifth on the depth chart to lead the team's down linemen with 57 tackles (35 solos). The 230-pounder had yet to show his pass rushing prowess, sacking the quarterback just twice, but his eight stops for loss ranked second on the squad.

As a sophomore, English garnered All-Mid American Conference first-team honors. He made 51 tackles (32 solos) in 13 games, leading the team and ranking second in the league with a career-high 12 sacks. That total tied the school single-season record that was first set by Scott Kellar in 1984. He also paced the Huskies with 16.0 tackles for loss and caused four fumbles, the most in the MAC for 2006.

The Vern Smith Leadership Award winner and first-team All-MAC pick led the conference with 10.5 sacks in 2007. His 17.0 stops for loss also led the league and ranked 16th in the nation. He produced 67 tackles (29 solos), fourth on the squad, and also recovered a fumble in the end zone for a touchdown. His banner junior campaign came to a crashing halt in the Poinsettia Bowl, as he suffered a torn anterior cruciate ligament in his knee that would require surgery.

The injury bug continued in 2008, as English suffered a torn pectoral muscle in spring drills. He played nearly all season with pins in his broken thumb, but he still led the team with eight sacks and 16 stops behind the line of scrimmage, ranking fourth and third, respectively, in each category among MAC players. He was again named the recipient of the Verne Smith Award, finishing his final season with a career-low 37 tackles (26 solos).

GENERAL REPORT. GRADE: 6.72

Body Structure: English has good muscle development, but needs further body tone in his lower frame. He has good arm length with muscular definition, adequate hamstrings and thighs. He added bulk to his frame during the 2008 off-season in order to compete better at defensive end, but outside of rush end duties he may be better suited as an outside linebacker - if he can generate enough foot speed.

Athletic Ability: English is an undersized defensive end, despite the recent weight addition. He might have to project to outside linebacker in the pros, but may not have the quickness to play at that position (4.82-second 40-yard clocking at the NFL Combine). He is a good athlete and could make the conversion, as he is quicker than fast and has good lateral agility. He has good straight-line quickness and the ability to plant and change direction fluidly. He does a good job of giving a shoulder and flattening working down the line. While he has good weight room strength, he does not have the bulk to consistently stack and control when working inside. He is best when given the ability to run and pursue down the line of scrimmage. GRADE: 6.7

Football Sense: English has very good field vision and shows maturity and patience letting the plays develop. He knows how to play within the defensive scheme and does a good job of flowing to the ball. He has a good grasp of the playbook and is not the type that is easily fooled by play-action. He has enough ability to stay tight with the short-area receivers, but does struggle some to locate the ball when dropping off in zone coverage. He is smart enough to deal with the mental side of the game. He shows good alertness to plays in front of him, but is best when getting a clear lane off the edge, as he is slow to recognize side blocking schemes. GRADE: 7.0

Character: English is a good program type who goes out of his way to mentor younger teammates. He has no known off-field issues and is a well-mannered athlete that the coaches cite his work ethic. GRADE: 6.8

Competitiveness: English is a good competitor who plays with intensity and aggressiveness. For the possible move to the linebacker position, he has above average playing strength and can be explosive in his hits. He is not the type to take plays off and shows good effort until the whistle. He is a physical take-on type of tackler who consistently fights through the play. GRADE: 6.6

Work Habits: English is still a 'tweener type, lacking ideal size to be a down lineman and might not be sudden enough to play linebacker. He could prove to have good value as a rush end or weak-side linebacker in a 3-4 defense. He has the physique that shows a good power base and is very accountable for his actions. From the look at his upper body, he knows how to put the extra hours into his weight training and has developed a violent punch to help him compensate for a lack of bulk when battling bigger blockers in the trenches. GRADE: 6.5

ATHLETIC REPORT: GRADE: 6.36

Key and Diagnostic Skills: English excels at sifting through and avoiding trash to locate the ball. He has good eyes coming from the backside and the lateral range to flow with the ball. He does a nice job of waiting for the action to come to him rather than over-commit, doing a nice job of neutralizing the bootleg. He shows good snap anticipation (no off-side penalties the last two years), knowing when to dip his shoulder and explode past blockers en route to the quarterback. He is not reckless on the field, a rarity for a pass rusher, as he knows he can get success by showing patience. He is alert to the option and is not the type who will be fooled by misdirection or play-action fakes. His problems arise when he has to work in-line, as he spends a lot of time trying to disengage and loses sight of the play. When he finds the ball, there is no hesitation in his moves to pursue the play. He is better coming off the edge than when having to deal with in-line reading responsibilities. GRADE: 7.2

Playing Strength and Explosion: English has a developing frame with good upper body strength but lacks the sand in his pants to hold up to NFL offensive linemen as a defensive end. He is not the type that can anchor well at the line of scrimmage and is generally washed out by double teams when trying to work in-line. He has a quick straight-line burst to disrupt the backfield activity, and does a good job of redirecting on the move, but lacks the foot speed to simply fly to the ball, and while his weight room numbers are good he often struggles to shed once a blocker latches on to his jersey. He does not have the lower body strength to hold his ground at the Xs. He is weight room strong, but because of his size, he does not generate enough force to work across blocks in pursuit and can be overmatched at the line of scrimmage vs. the bigger offensive tackles. He relies mostly on hand placement to gain separation and his burst and arm-over action to slip blocks. While his weight room numbers do not always translate to the football field, he is a take-on type that might struggle vs. the bigger blockers, but will give them a battle until the whistle. GRADE: 6.3

Lateral Pursuit/Range: English does a nice job of flowing to the ball and while he lacks blazing speed, he can run long distances to chase down the play. He shows good balance on the move and should be able to adjust to linebacker at the next level, as he generally played upright, especially on stretches and screens. He needs room to operate, as he is more effective as a pass rusher coming off the edge when standing up than with his hand on the ground. He just lacks the top-end speed you look for in a linebacker. Even though he has lateral agility, he does have upper body stiffness trying to turn and run out of his backpedal and might have trouble mirroring in pass coverage. He does a nice job of planting his foot and redirecting when chasing down screens. He has the backside pursuit ability to slip and work around blocks to get penetration (holds the school records for sacks and tackles for losses). He shows urgency and explosion chasing to the perimeter and above average acceleration working down the line. GRADE: 6.7

Use of Hands: English has enough upper body strength to generate a strong punch to rock an offensive lineman back on his heels. He uses his hands quite effectively to grab, jerk and pull, but he is also quite effective shooting them violently to stun. He is also quite effective at reaching around and using his length to try and dislodge the ball from the carrier (eight forced fumbles during his career). While he can be quick with his hands and uses them well, he lacks the bulk to hold ground at the point of attack when working in-line or in the trenches, especially vs. double teams. He keeps a tight mirror on the tight end and will shock and jolt to reroute, but will give up his body some. When taking on the lead blocker, he does a much better job to control, slap and break free and is best served making plays on the move rather than in tight areas. GRADE: 6.5

Tackling Ability: English is a classic wrap-up tackler who does a good job of keeping his hands inside his frame. He plays at a good pad level and is conscious of attacking the ball carrier's outside leg to impede forward momentum. He uses his hands well to push back the lead blocker and clog the rush lanes, but needs to be more alert to side blocks and not try to get into too many one-on-one battles in the trenches, as he is better served making plays on the move than operating at the line of scrimmage. When he stays low in his pads, English can string plays out, but when he gets high in his stance he leaves his body too exposed. He has the strength to hold ground on the edge, but lacks bulk to maintain position working inside. GRADE: 6.2

Run Defense: English is best when making tackles on the move, but needs to show better angle concept, as there are times he simply runs right into the blocker rather than trying to avoid. He keeps his hands active in attempts to shed and knows how to use his punch to temporarily stun a lineman, but has to rely more on quickness rather than power to defeat double teams, as he does not have the strong anchor to beat them otherwise. He has his best success coming off the snap with a low pad level, as he can be rocked back when he's too tall at the point of attack. He has had decent success using his arm length to play off blocks in order to chase down plays from the backside. Against the run, English is a one-gap player who can be productive to slip blocks, shoot the holes and be disruptive. He is best when using making plays off the backside, as he does show enough hand strength to shed in on-on-one situations. He just lacks the bulk and leg drive to stack and control and can be run at, getting covered up too much to be effective taking on blocks. He has the speed to pursue and cut off the edge, showing adequate redirection agility. He will get caught up in trash, but has the burst to escape. GRADE: 6.3

Pass Defense: English showed adequate ability dropping back in the short area to pick up tight ends and backs. He has good explosion and adequate quickness to penetrate off the edge when given a free lane, but was generally removed in obvious passing situations (made just seven plays vs. the pass in 2008). He shows decent hip snap to turn and run with the tight ends and backs in the short area, but is rarely used in man coverage. Until he can learn to play linebacker, it is not recommended using him much in pass coverage. GRADE: 5.3

Zone Defense: English is still a work in progress dropping back in the zone, as he does not look instinctive in locating the ball with his back turned to the quarterback. He looks too stiff in his backpedal and needs to do a better job of sinking his pads, as he looks too tall and rigid in his stance to turn cleanly out of his breaks. He is better playing in the short area than in long pursuit, as he lacks the foot speed to maintain relation with the receiver. Until he actually lines up in pass coverage, it is anyone's guess on what he will bring to the table here. GRADE: 5.2

Pass Rush and Blitz: There is no question that English had good success coming off the edge, but it was generally vs. lower level type of offensive tackles. Due to bulk issues, he will not be able to play as a down lineman at the next level. While he has a good short-area burst, unless he is in a 3-4 alignment he might not be able to blitz as often from the weak-side linebacker position as he did as a rush end. He is not the type that will have great success shooting the gaps on the blitz, as bigger blockers had good success engulfing him. He uses his rip moves with good success and knows how to get skinny to slip off blocks. When he plays at a low pad level, he can get his hands underneath the blocker to drive his man back into the pocket. The thing you notice on film is his ability to gear down and change speeds to get the offensive lineman off balance. As a pass rusher, he is the type that will explode and burst through traffic. He is more of a finesse-type pass rusher who will not generate great speed, but he uses his hands to gain separation and his extra effort in pursuit allows him to get pressure. He does a good job of dipping his shoulder to slip off blocks and has the quick twitch moves needed to make plays coming from the backside. He seems to get soft when engaging the offensive tackle, as he knows he will get stonewalled in a power battle. As a linebacker, he will be much more productive as a pass rusher, as he can gain acceleration and get a better feel for the ball when he won't have to engage the bigger blockers on in-line battles. GRADE: 7.5

Compares To: ANTHONY SPENCER, Dallas -- Some draft experts claim Larry English is the next Shawn Merriman, but that's a stretch at this point. As a pass rusher, he shows great tenacity, but that seems to be the only consistent aspect of his game. There are too many contests where he lost in too much trash and isn't much of a factor. As an athlete, you have to be impressed with his power, but one look at his clocked speed makes you be concerned that he won't be able to drop back and handle speedy slot receivers outside the short area.

OVERALL GRADE: 6.42

 
Louis Vasquez

Overview

Texas Tech's potent offense would go nowhere without talent in the offensive line. Vasquez, a three-year starter at left guard with great size, is one of QB Graham Harrell's strongest companions. His nimble feet allow him to keep his quarterback's jersey clean and create angles inside for an underrated running game. He was named second team All-Big XII in 2008 after receiving honorable mentions the previous two seasons. Scouts wonder, however, if Tech linemen can transition from a two-point, wide-split offensive line scheme to the NFL.

Analysis

Positives: Tall with large middle, but not overly so, and strong legs. Strong anchor in pass protection, rarely gets beat one-on-one. Has enough foot speed to get to linebackers or safeties at the second or third level. Dominates smaller defenders in space. Good, not great, punch. Willing to stay on his man for a few yards downfield on run plays. Inexperienced as a drive blocker, but looks capable of getting low and maintaining the line of scrimmage in his limited chances.

Negatives: Needs to prove he can transition from Tech's scheme to the NFL. Does not combo block much in wide split scheme. Is not quick to pick up late blitzers. Lacks explosiveness out of his stance and his pads are too high when his hand is down. Plays a bit upright in general, may lose leverage battles against stronger defensive tackles. Will lean forward and lose his balance when pass protecting for more than a couple of seconds.

 
Based on how the Raiders/K.C./Denver drafted it's safe to say the Chargers have a strong hold on their division for the next few years :hot:

 
Vaughn Martin

Overview

One of the most talented athletes in the Canadian collegiate ranks, Martin brought back memories of William "Refrigerator" Perry for his exploits as a short-yardage blocker and fullback during his second season with the Mustangs. Certainly in much better physical shape than Perry, he displays excellent explosion off the snap, utilizing that quickness to terrorize quarterbacks.

Having moved to defensive end for the 2008 campaign, Martin played a major role in the team's success en route to winning the Yates Cup and playing for the Vanier Cup (Canadian national title). His ability to handle multiple blockers and contain the inside running game saw his opponents frustrated, as they managed to gain only seven yards on 36 rushing plays (0.19 ypc) directed toward him. With his timing and leaping ability, he also saw his opponent complete just 3 of 16 passes into his area (18.75%) for a mere 6 yards.

Nicknamed "Vicious" by his teammates, the defensive line has come to rely upon him to serve as the unit's anchor. Former teammate and fellow down lineman Tom Dolezel recently stated, "We've been playing really well, but I think it is really because Vaughn has come in and basically anchored that strong side."

Born on the island of Jamaica, Martin was raised in Toronto and London, Ontario. He attended South Secondary School, playing football for head coach Mike Stenning. He competed as a defensive end, defensive tackle and fullback in high school, recording 90 tackles with five stops behind the line of scrimmage in 2004. The three-time starter was rated one of the top 12 defensive ends in Ontario by All-Star Football and Weir's Magazine. He also received a two-star prospect rating from Rivals.com.

Prior to beginning his collegiate career, Martin competed for two summers with the Forest City Thunderbirds in the Central Ontario Football League. He also was a member of Team Canada, playing in the 2006 NFL Global Junior Championship in Detroit. He was named to the NFL Global Junior Championship X All-Tournament Team after helping Team Canada to a perfect 5-0 record, including five shutouts.

That season, he finished fourth on the squad in tackles with 10 (9 solos) and made four tackles for losses (12 yards) in the tournament, including two sacks for minus 9 yards. He recorded three solo hits, including a 4-yard sack, in Team Canada's 10-0 victory over Team U.S.A. in the championship game. He also registered three solo stops, including one for a loss, in a third-round game vs. Team U.S.A and posted his first sack of the tournament in the opening-round game vs. Team Japan.

Martin's stellar performances drew the attention of several United States major colleges. He turned down scholarship offers from Toledo and Ohio University to enroll at Michigan State in 2006, but failed to qualify due to academic transcript issues. He then enrolled at Milford Academy, a prep school in New York.

Martin later returned home to Ontario, where Western Ontario head coach Mickey Donovan convinced the talented athlete to enroll at the university. After a lunch-time meeting, the coach was able to sway him from choosing other interested schools, including Concordia (CIS) and Akron, for the 2007 season. What also helped Martin in his decision was the fact that Chris Marcus, Western's former special teams coordinator, coached him at South Secondary School.

Martin saw action at defensive tackle and end during his first season at Western Ontario. On the field, he made steady progress each week, finishing the season with 56 tackles (35 solos), three sacks and a fumble recovery. Known both for excellent pass-rushing and run-stopping ability, his versatile defensive skill-set immediately put fear into opposing teams.

In 2008, Martin performed mostly at defensive tackle earlier in the year, but he also had great success filling in for injured teammate Chris Greaves at defensive end, earning GoodLife Fitness Athlete of the Week honors for his performance at that position vs. Queen's. In 12 games, he collected 36 tackles (22 solos) with 3.5 sacks, 7.5 stops behind the line of scrimmage and 13 pressures. He returned an interception for a touchdown, registered a safety, caused a fumble and recovered two others. He provided stellar blocking at the fullback position, where he scored twice on a pair of 3-yard rushing attempts, finishing with 10 yards on four carries.

GENERAL REPORT: GRADE: 6.10

Body Structure: Martin has a well-built frame with long arms, good chest muscle definition, tight waist and decent thickness in his thighs and calves. He actually looks a bit lean with his V-shaped torso and will surprise people when they find out he weighs more than 330 pounds. He might be at maximum growth potential though, as any additional bulk on his frame could impede his explosion off the snap.

Athletic Ability: Martin lacks sudden explosiveness, but shows the initial quickness, balance and body control to charge hard in his backside pursuit. He keeps his pads down nicely for a player of his size and this allows him to gain position and hold his base well vs. double teams. He has the functional change of direction agility to work his way down the line. His arm strength lets him consistently gain separation, stuff and shed. He also has the feet to adjust on the move. GRADE: 7.0

Football Sense: Martin is still a neophyte on the football field, having just two years of college and one year of prep school experience. He has played mostly on sheer instincts, but is a highly intelligent player who will not have problems retaining plays. All he needs is a patient coach to teach him proper technique and that coach will be rewarded with good value down the road. GRADE: 5.0

Character: Martin is articulate and a true class act. There are no off-field issues and he has been very receptive to whatever the coaches ask from him. He is much more mature than most players his age and is the type that not only shows initiative, but has a genuine good nature off the field. But he lives up to his nickname "Vicious" on the football field. GRADE: 6.0

Competitiveness: Martin plays with good intensity and effort. He is very tough in the trenches, where he certainly lives up to his nickname. You will never see him back down from a challenge and plays with such a nasty temperament, the coaches might need to ask him to tone it down, fearing for the opponent's safety. GRADE: 6.0

Work Habits: Despite his young age, Martin is a leader by example type. The staff says he will not only play with pain, but simply refuses to come off the field when hurt. He has a strong work ethic and is a good program type that does not hesitate to mentor the younger players. When in a crunch last year, the coaches asked him to play on offense as a short-yardage runner, producing three touchdowns on six carries in the process (two by Martin and another when he executed a lateral to a teammate after taking the ball to midfield, only to throw a block to spring his teammate for an eventual score). GRADE: 6.5

ATHLETIC REPORT: GRADE: 5.77

Explosion/Pursuit: Martin has good initial quickness coming off the snap, and for a player of his size that burst can surprise an offensive lineman. He has the ability to gain advantage when he keeps his feet on the move and the thing you notice on film is his ability to use his long reach to get his hands on an offensive lineman. Even when he is late off the snap, he does an efficient job of using his long arm reach and strength to gain advantage out of his stance. He has enough speed to slip off blocks and uses his hands well to keep the opponent off his body. He also shows enough functional quickness to pursue from the backside. GRADE: 6.2

Strength at Point: Martin shows that he has the ability to sit and anchor at the point of attack, but because of his relative inexperience playing football he just lacks consistency. However, when he plants his foot into the ground to anchor at the point of attack, he is quite effective at shooting the gaps when working in-line. He might be a better fit for tackle due to his lack of edge quickness, but he has the strength and size to destroy interior blockers on contact and bull rush with consistency. He has the bulk and raw power to control and separate, but will need some hand technique refinement. GRADE: 7.0

Use of Hands: Martin has yet to grasp the proper hand placement and technique, but just needs more reps and a patient teacher to further his development. Even though he is raw in this department, he demonstrates a punishing hand punch and excellent overall strength to easily handle multiple blockers, stack and control. When blockers do get into his chest (will short arm when he stands up), he still gives a good second effort in attempts to disengage. He has a strong hand punch, but needs to recoil and set quicker when engaging blockers. He also must keep his hands active, as he lacks ideal chop and rip moves when trying to disengage. GRADE: 5.4

Lateral Pursuit/Effort: For a player his size, Martin shows impressive balance and lateral moves. He keeps his feet and uses his long arms to avoid low blocks. With his quickness and hip flip, he is capable of getting an edge on blockers. He shows good desire and effort in his lateral pursuit (more on short area play than going long distances). He also plays with a steady motor, but sometimes his momentum will force him to out-run plays (needs to develop better stop-&-go action). GRADE: 6.4

Tackling Ability: Martin is raw technique wise, but when he plays at a low pad level he is an efficient wrap-up tackler whose strength lets him quickly disengage from blocks. He has the lower body power in his anchor to neutralize the double-team action, consistently stacking while holding ground. He shows the potential of being a solid open-field tackler, but first must grasp the concept for angling better. The thing you see on film is his ability to square up, bring his hips and drive through the ball carrier. GRADE: 5.3

Run Defense: Martin is still learning the nuances of the game, but he shows good urgency chasing the ball carrier, just needing to take better angles in pursuit. He shows the athleticism and body control to stay up and play the game on his feet. With his strength and bulk, he should not have problems vs. double teams, especially with his ability to hold and split through. He does a nice job of neutralizing the outside run and forcing it back inside. His long arms let him engulf ball carriers, showing good strike form to wrap, secure and take down. He will generally play at a good pad level, but will sometimes get high in his stance, resulting in blockers getting underneath his pads to lock him out. GRADE: 6.0

Pass Rush: Martin is really a bull in a china shop when he gets into the backfield, as he does not always take proper angles to seal the deal. He shows very good hip flip and hand usage, but he is just a raw, power-oriented pass rusher than an explosive edge rusher, making him a better candidate to play one-gap as a defensive tackle. He still lacks an array of moves as a pass rusher and is more of a "meat & potatoes" type that prefers to punish the blocker rather than try to avoid. GRADE: 5.0

Closing on the QB: Martin presses the corner well and uses his strength to compensate for adequate awareness and angling in attempts to pressure the pocket. He needs to learn how to gear down, as he will get too reckless and over-pursue the play, but with his raw strength he does have some success when he collides and pushes blockers back into the pocket. GRADE: 5.3

Instincts/Recognition: Martin is still developing valid instincts and great vision to quickly locate and run to the ball. He is making steady progress with his awareness of blocking schemes and does a good job of locking out blockers and locating the ball at the X's. He still needs to learn more technique (angling, more array of moves), but with his relative inexperience just give him a few years to see if he can develop. The potential could be limitless. GRADE: 5.3

Offensive Performance: Martin has additional value on offense, as he does a good job of staying low in his pads and squaring his shoulders to widen and sustain the rushing lanes as a lead blocker. He also uses his powerful leg drive to break tackles and can be a benefit to a team as a short-yardage runner, demonstrating good ball security and the hip snap to break tackles with his inside runs. GRADE: 6.3

Compares To: GRADY JACKSON, Detroit -- Much like when Jackson entered the NFL in 1997, Martin is rawer than sushi when it comes to playing the game of football. He is like a bull in a china shop in the trenches, hitting everything in sight based on sheer instincts rather than knowledge. He will need a patient coach to help him learn the techniques of the game and the team that selects him will have to give him a crash course in how to play American-brand football and help him adjust from the Canadian game, but his athletic ability is awesome and while he is a boom or bust type, with his work ethic and desire don't bet against him.

OVERALL GRADE: 5.83

 
Tyronne Green

Overview

In the Tigers' most trying season in recent memory, Green was one of the team's few bright spots. Having entered the program as a defensive tackle, it took the left offensive guard three years before he would crack the starting lineup, but he would go on to man that demanding position in each of his final 25 games.

Scouts compare Green to former Auburn standout Ben Grubbs (Baltimore), as he has great athletic ability and outstanding suddenness coming off the snap. Even though he never started at the position, the coaching staff experimented with Green at center in 2008 fall camp. He showed the quick hands and head-on-the-swivel agility that could see him possibly shift to the pivot position in the National Football League.

"Those were definitely the first snaps I ever took at center," Green said. "You have to make calls and pretty much tell everybody else who they've got and you have to snap the ball and get on your guy. I have a lot more respect for my teammates (centers Jason Bosley and Ryan Pugh) at center."

At Woodham High School, Green was rated a two-star prospect by Rivals.com. He only appeared in five games during his senior year due to injuries. But the defensive tackle was leading the team with 34 tackles, three sacks, nine quarterback pressures, three pass deflections and an interception before getting hurt. He also lettered in basketball.

Green performed on the scout team as a down lineman in 2004, earning redshirt status. The offensive coaches were impressed with his athletic ability and moved the 275-pounder to offensive guard. In 2005, he saw action vs. Ball State, Western Kentucky, South Carolina and Mississippi, playing behind Ben Grubbs at left offensive guard.

As a redshirt sophomore, the now 310-pound Green appeared in all 13 games, lining up behind Grubbs at left guard. He was in on 24 knockdowns, as the squad averaged 320.92 yards in total offense.

Grubb's graduation saw Green replace him in the lineup for the 2007 campaign. He posted 83 knockdowns/key blocks with 11 touchdown-resulting blocks, paving the way as the Tigers averaged 335.15 yards per game. For that performance, he was the recipient of the Ken Rice Award, given to the team's best offensive lineman.

Green earned All-Southeastern Conference accolades as a senior. He registered a team-high 113 knockdowns/key blocks, the most of any guard in the conference. He added nine touchdown-resulting blocks and did not allow any quarterback sacks, helping the team average 302.92 yards per game. He showed tremendous field alertness in 2008, recovering three Auburn fumbles while recording a pair of tackles after Tiger interceptions, causing a fumble on one of those thefts.

Scouting Report

GENERAL REPORT: GRADE: 6.30

Body Structure: Green has a thick frame that will need to add more bulk, but he has room to carry it without affecting his adequate quickness. He has good upper body muscle development, with large, strong hands and good arm length. His lower frame is just adequate, lacking ideal leg length, but he has thick hips and some knot in his calves.

Athletic Ability: Green is a good athlete with just adequate quickness, agility and body control. He lacks ideal size and bulk to play guard, but has room on his frame for more weight. With his hand quickness and a previous 2008 fall experiment, he might be a better fit at center in the pro ranks, where his low center of gravity and kick slide could be more valuable. He shows good aggression and consistency in his play and has functional strength. He also demonstrates good feet and balance playing along the line, but needs to show more explosion getting into the second level. GRADE: 6.3

Football Sense: Green is still relatively a neophyte when it comes to playing offense, as he has just 25 starts at the guard position after being recruited as a defensive lineman. He understands blocking schemes, but will need a patient coach to help him develop. His awareness in pass protection is suspect, as the high amount of QB pressures charged to him indicates he is not always alert to twists and games. He needs only normal reps to retain plays and picks up on things quickly, but still needs more reps on the playing field to continue his development. He plays with good urgency and just needs to recognize changes vs. movement better to be effective. GRADE: 5.1

Character: Green is a good citizen with no off-field issues. He demonstrates very good work habits on and off the field, including in the weight room. He is very polite, well-respected by his teammates and developed into the unit's vocal leader. The coaches love him and cite his work ethic. GRADE: 6.7

Competitiveness: Green is a classic blue-collar type who has very good toughness, both mentally and physically. He will play through pain and shows an even-keeled temperament. He works hard to finish and plays with good enthusiasm. He understands the technical part of the game well. GRADE: 6.8

Work Habits: Green is a self-starter and a very good worker, whether in practices, the weight room or in games. He is a responsible type who does not need any guidance. He could improve his overall strength, but shows good dedication in the weight room. He shows good aggression on the field and plays with good focus (just four penalties in 25 games, despite coming into the program as a defensive player). GRADE: 6.6

ATHLETIC REPORT. GRADE: 6.12

Initial Quickness: Green has adequate quickness, but is better on running plays than in pass protection (late to cut off or make reach tackles on the outside). When he fires low off the snap, he can generate movement, but just lacks ideal suddenness. He has enough foot speed to lead the way on traps and pulls, but must do a better job of reacting to movement in passing situations. He shows the ability to be quick out of his stance and into the defender. He has a good initial step to gain advantage and generates enough hip strike to change direction without having to false step. GRADE: 6.3

Lateral Movement: Green plays with a solid base with good lateral quickness in the short areas. He has the balance and feet to slide and shuffle with effectiveness. He needs to stay lower in his pads making adjustments in space, but has enough burst to get into position working down the line. GRADE: 6.4

Balance/Stays On Feet: Green is very good at walling off and sustaining his blocks when he keeps the action in front of him. He showed some improvement using his hand extension, but for some reason, he still can't grasp the concept of keeping his hands inside his frame, which will result in him being inconsistent trying to ward off a speedy pass rusher. At the point of attack, he plays with good balance and has a strong enough anchor to prevent the bull rushers from walking him back. He does a much better job of positioning and sustaining vs. a stationary target than a quick, moving one (see 2008 Southern Mississippi and Mississippi games), as he will settle for stalemates when he struggles to react quick enough to movement. He does a good job of picking up stunts, but will sometimes overextend, lunge and lose his balance. He plays with good base, balance and body control when working in space. He is effective at changing direction, but needs to do a better job of seeking out secondary targets on the move. GRADE: 6.3

Explosion/Pop: Green generates good pop with his hands, but unless he keeps them inside his frame, they lack explosiveness. He uses his body well to collide with the prodding defender and does a nice job on down blocks, but will revert to pushing and shoving when he tires late in games. When he is focused, he can generate good pop in his explosion off the ball and shows the leg drive needed to work and finish. The thing I like about him is his ability to roll his hips on blocks, as it helps him generate more movement off the snap. GRADE: 6.2

Run Blocking: Green showed a better grasp for taking angles as a senior than he did in the past, but is still a work in progress. He is quick to gain position and anchor, but he gives up his side quite a bit, especially on pass plays (see 2008 Mississippi State and Arkansas games). He seems more comfortable blocking in-line than in space, where he gets better movement on drive blocks. When he blocks with a flat back, he does a better job of locking on his blocks and moving out the level one defenders. He shows improved ability to wall off and screen, thanks to rolling his hips on contact. He does a good job pulling to trap block, as he knows how to stay low to get movement. He can sometimes get a little too high in his stance, which results in him getting pushed back through the holes he tries to develop for the running back. When he keeps his back flat, knees bent and shows flexibility in his ankles, he can do an effective job of mauling defenders at the line. GRADE: 6.5

Pass Blocking: Green has a bit of a methodical pass set up and needs to use his hands better to control the action in his area (not quick to reset, especially vs. double moves). He plays with decent pop and punch and will be aggressive. He has a solid base in pass protection and the feet to anchor and hold ground at the point of attack, but will sometimes stop moving his feet on contact in his pass set, resulting in him giving up more than a fair share of pressures. He will get into trouble when he plays on his toes, as he tends to drop his head a bit on the move, losing sight of secondary targets. However, he does a nice job of sinking his hips to mirror and has a good kick step, but must improve his hand extension. GRADE: 6.2

Pulling/Trapping: Green is still learning how to locate second-level targets, but he can pull and trap with adequate speed when he keeps his pads down. He just needs to show better consistency when kicking out. He is sometimes late locating a target and you would like to see him put down more defenders in space than he does, but he has decent body quickness to get out of the gate and be effective on the move. Green could be a good contact seeker, once he gains experience, as he will land on his target with good violence. GRADE: 6.3

Adjust on Linebacker Downfield: Green has good hip snap, along with adequate change of direction agility to track and land on his target in the second level when he plays on his feet. He needs to do a better job of taking good angles in the second level, but when he lands on a target, he will attack the linebacker until the whistle. He is sometimes late to get position, especially when he bends at the waist (better working in-line). GRADE: 5.4

Use of Hands/Punch: Green is still inconsistent with his hands, but as he gained more starting experience, he developed an effective punch that will jolt the defender on contact. He has to improve his recoil and recovery quickness, but when he keeps his hands inside, he can deliver a powerful short punch. When he keeps his hands inside the framework of the defensive tackle, he is better in attempts at locking out on blocks. GRADE: 6.0

Reactions/Awareness: Green really improved his overall play in 2008, but still has problems locating targets that take a side in pass protection. He now plays with good knee bend, but his foot quickness is inconsistent in attempts to gain leverage. He can shift his weight effortlessly and his hips allow him to explode into defenders on contact, but he is prone to over-extending in pass protection on the move. As his final year progressed, he showed better vision combating twists, as he did a nice job of pivoting and recovering after missing a block. He just seems to labor catching up with outside speed rushers and because of his lack of experience, he has still not developed a good feel for hand placement needed to handle counter moves. GRADE: 5.6

Compares To: BEN GRUBBS, Baltimore -- Like his former mentor, Green is a late bloomer who will need a patient coach to help him gain knowledge to match up to his athletic ability. He is a work in progress when it comes to recognizing speedy outside pass rushers, but he has very good knee bend and good burst off the snap to gain movement for the ground game. He spent some time at center in 2008 fall camp and with his hand quickness, he could eventually move to that position. But first, he needs to get more reps on the field and while he is a work in progress, he could bring nice value during the second day of the draft.

OVERALL GRADE: 6.15

 
Vaughn Martin, DL, Western Ontario

This is the out-of-nowhere mystery prospect. At 6-3, 331 pounds, Martin has all the measurables and much of the athleticism to get recognized, but he didn't win multiple accolades or get invited to some of the postseason showcase games or events. The one-time Michigan State recruit, who never set foot on campus and played in Canada, is so confident in his ability to land in the NFL that he left Western Ontario with eligibility remaining to declare for the draft.

"I'm raw but I am extremely athletic" Martin said. "I am bigger than most of the guys already playing those positions (along the defensive line) and I'm tough. With me, you get a blank canvas to mold into whatever you want to mold me into."

Martin recently held a workout in Windsor, Ontario, across the border from Detroit. A handful of teams attended. One scout who watched his film said Martin is athletic but doesn't dominate consistently. Still, he is an intriguing prospect. If he doesn't get drafted, Canadian rules allow prospects who declare early for the NFL draft to return.

"I have no intention of doing that," Martin said.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000d5d...mp;confirm=true

 
Gartrell Johnson

Overview

Talented backs like Johnson don't typically get out of the state of Florida, especially considering he led Dade County in rushing as a senior. His physique and lack of elite speed scream fullback, but his production for the Rams tells a different story.

The 2008 first-team All-Mountain West pick appeared to come from nowhere with his 285-yard, two-touchdown effort against Fresno State in the New Mexico Bowl last December, but he had already approached 1,200 yards during the regular season and ran for 957 yards as a part-time starter in 2007. He also caught 32 for 295 yards out of the backfield as a senior, mostly on swing passes, which gives him a bit more versatility than most expect.

Analysis

Positives: Powerful build. Runs with a low pad level, giving defenders little room to hit him. Has a low-center of gravity and a good first step to accelerate. Hits the hole with authority. Some lateral quickness to elude in tight quarters and can make defenders miss in the open field. Good vision for the cutback. Finishes his runs by falling forward. Secure ball-handler with only one fumble in 310 touches in 2008. Experienced hands out of the backfield. Good strength and effort as a pass-blocker. Relatively fresh legs, considering he didn't establish himself as a full-time starter until his senior year. Strong performance in the East-West Shrine Game alleviated concerns about his level of competition.

Negatives: Lacks the speed to beat linebackers to the edge or the top-end speed to pull away when gets to the second level. Lacks the agility to make defenders miss if met in the hole. Relies on his initial pop and aggression, rather than true power, in taking on defenders. Can be taken down too easily at the line of scrimmage, as he needs a step or two to build his momentum. May struggle with a complicated playbook.

 
Brandon Hughes

Overview

A two-time second-team All-Pac-10 selection, Hughes paired with Keenan Lewis to give the Beavers arguably the top cornerback duo in the conference. Hughes signed with Oregon State as a receiver but moved to cornerback and started 40 games for the Beavers over his career. Confrontational at the line of scrimmage, Hughes relies on his initial pop with the receiver to hold up. He lacks the foot speed and quickness to turn and run with receivers with rare speed. Scouts noted how he struggled at the East-West Shrine Game in off-man coverage, but for bump-and-run teams looking for help on the second day, Hughes' consistency makes sense.

 
Kevin Ellison

Overview

Steady, no-nonsense strong safety ended his career with 34 starts and earning first-team All-Pac-10 honors after each of the past two seasons. An instinctive defender, Ellison has morphed into a coach on the field for the Trojans. While every other member of the USC defensive backfield is superior as an all-around athlete, Ellison, who was lightly recruited out of high school, makes up for a lack of eye-popping measureables with intelligence, physicality and a penchant for making the big play. Of concern to scouts, is whether Ellison has the straight-line speed to handle the transition to the NFL, especially considering the three knee operations he's undergone while at USC.

Analysis

Positives: Chiseled athlete who certainly looks the part. … Steady, dependable player who graduated a semester early from high school to enroll at Southern Cal. … Signed with USC as a running back and was so physical and instinctive that the staff considered him at linebacker before moving him to strong safety. … Quick to attack the line of scrimmage in run support. … Effective open-field tackler who can break down and make the stop in space. … Flashes explosiveness as a hitter and can intimidate receivers crossing the middle. … An accomplished blitzer from his safety position. … Can avoid blocks on his way to the quarterback and has good closing speed. … Good bloodlines. Brother, Keith Ellison, is a linebacker for the Buffalo Bills.

Negatives: Lacks the preferred straight-line speed for the position. … Not the same player in coverage that he is in run support or as a hitter over the middle. … Too often plays the man and not the ball. … Willing to give up the reception to make a big hit and play it safe. … Repeated knee injuries. … Missed most of the 2005 season due to a torn ACL and fractured left leg. Underwent surgery on his left knee again prior to the 2007 season. … Missed five games in 2008 with a torn meniscus in his right knee that also required surgery.

 
love the Ellison pick.

Other than the Vaughn Martin pick, most everyone selected started a ton of college games. We know that games started is a particularly good indicator for future success at the QB position; I wonder if AJ and Co. aren't subscribing to that line of thinking at other positions as well.

 
Well, I guess we now know what USC’s Kevin Ellison was doing while he couldn’t practice or play on his injured knee.Ellison bench-pressed 225 pounds 32 times at the NFL scouting combine, a number that’s astounding in several ways: * It’s two more than any linebacker could do, including Ellison’s ex-teammate, Brian Cushing. Would you have guessed that? I wouldn’t. * It would have tied for sixth among defensive linemen — you know, the guys who outweigh Ellison by anywhere from 20 to 70 pounds. * It would have ranked eighth among offensive linemen — the guys who outweigh Ellison by 70 to 100 pounds.None of this means Ellison will be drafted as high as he should be. But he’ll become a nice bargain for someone in the middle rounds.
 
Sonny, what's the scoop on Gartrell Johnson?
Like him. The writeup above is accurate. Other stuff:Hard worker and well-liked. He'll remind you of Steven Jackson or Barber -- the looks and strength, how he finishes. Obviously, nowhere near as good as those beasts, but he'll play in time. Could play a lot, actually. He'll compliment LDT, and particularly Sproles (when LDT is gone), quite well I think. Doesn't have a lot of mileage because he was kind of a late bloomer, so that's good too. Perfect system for him to watch and learn for awhile. Good pick for you guys.
 
Well, I guess we now know what USC’s Kevin Ellison was doing while he couldn’t practice or play on his injured knee.Ellison bench-pressed 225 pounds 32 times at the NFL scouting combine, a number that’s astounding in several ways: * It’s two more than any linebacker could do, including Ellison’s ex-teammate, Brian Cushing. Would you have guessed that? I wouldn’t. * It would have tied for sixth among defensive linemen — you know, the guys who outweigh Ellison by anywhere from 20 to 70 pounds. * It would have ranked eighth among offensive linemen — the guys who outweigh Ellison by 70 to 100 pounds.None of this means Ellison will be drafted as high as he should be. But he’ll become a nice bargain for someone in the middle rounds.
That's good because he's too slow to play safety. They will probably put him in as an ILB.
 
Demetrius Byrd

Overview

Byrd signed with LSU as one of the elite JUCO prospects in the country. He led the team with seven touchdown receptions in his first season, six of which came against elite SEC competition. But Byrd's senior season was a bit disappointing, as he failed to step up in the primary receiver role (37 receptions for 499 yards and four touchdowns). His value appears to be as a complementary receiver at the next level.

 
Charger fans:

You will love Martin (if he gets a chance to play). He played at my alma mater and he is a beast. Tough as hell. Scored a 38 on the Wonderlic and put up 31 bench presses.

 
wow nice despyzer

here is the short list from NFL.com:

Pick Player Pos Ht Wt College

Round 1, Pick 16 (16) Larry English DE 6'2" 274 Northern Illinois

Pick Analysis:After watching their sack output drop significantly with Shawne Merriman injured, the Chargers add another pass rusher with English. The hard worker gives Ron Rivera a possible replacement for Merriman in the event of a rehab setback, and he gives the team three capable rushers in its 3-4 (Shaun Phillips, Merriman and English). With pass rushers at a premium, the Chargers made a wise choice.

Round 3, Pick 14 (78) Louis Vasquez OG 6'5" 333 Texas Tech

Pick Analysis:The Chargers find a potential replacement for Mike Goff with the selection of Vasquez. The former Red Raider lacks great athleticism, but he's a tough, physical blocker with the strength to move defenders off the ball.

Round 4, Pick 13 (113) Vaughn Martin DT 6'3" 331 Western Ontario (Canada)

Pick Analysis:Martin grew up in Canada and attended college north of the border. Nobody really knows the quality of his competition in college, but he had a great workout at Michigan's pro day. It's ironic that he wound up getting drafted before any Michigan player. He ran a 4.96 40 at 330 pounds and had 44 bench press reps. He gives the Chargers a 5-technique DE and has the bulk to be a nose tackle.

Round 4, Pick 33 (133) (Compensatory selection) Tyronne Green OG 6'2" 309 Auburn

Pick Analysis:Green is a tough guy who was a two-year starter in college. He's a former defensive tackle. He will need to push himself a little harder in the pros and ramp up his work ethic. He'll provide guard depth for the Chargers.

Round 4, Pick 34 (134) (Compensatory selection) Gartrell Johnson RB 5'10" 219 Colorado State

Pick Analysis:Johnson is a strong inside runner. He's a junior-college transfer who came to Colorado State as a tough runner inside the tackles. He had an outstanding bowl game against New Mexico. He's a short-yardage, goal-line rusher who will complement Darren Sproles and LaDainian Tomlinson in San Diego.

Round 5, Pick 12 (148) Brandon Hughes CB 5'10" 182 Oregon State

Pick Analysis:The Chargers add a hard-nosed corner with Hughes. The former Beaver is an aggressive corner with the skills to excel as a nickel corner for the team.

Round 6, Pick 16 (189) Kevin Ellison S 6'1" 227 Southern Cal

Pick Analysis:Ellison is a good, solid player who didn't run fast, and that hurt him. But he's still a really smart and instinctive player. Sometimes intelligent players who lack speed are able to read things better, and Ellison is one of those types of players. He works hard and loves the weight room and the film room.

Round 7, Pick 15 (224) Demetrius Byrd WR 6'0" 199 LSU

Pick Analysis:Byrd slid in the draft after being involved in an automobile accident just a week ago. He probably would've been drafted three rounds ago if he was healthy. He could be a developmental project for the future after he recovers from his injuries.

 
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Good work in here, Despyzer!
:goodposting: Nice details all around. I like the focus of the picks and I agree with BSS that you can never have enough secondary. However, as last year proved, without some pass rush all the secondary in the world won't help you. I'm glad they didn't go that route with the first few picks.
 
Does anyone know the details about Demetrius Byrd and his auto accident? How is his current state of health? I heard that he was still in the hospital.

 
Does anyone know the details about Demetrius Byrd and his auto accident? How is his current state of health? I heard that he was still in the hospital.
From the Shrevport Times:
Byrd was moved from the intensive care unit to a private room at Jackson Memorial Hospital in Miami on Friday and was listed in good condition, according to hospital spokesperson Lorraine Nelson. He was in intensive care prior to that, mainly for observation, the family had said. Byrd was in a one-car accident in the Miami area on April 19.
Not sure what that means for recovery, but even still in the hospital he is better than 9 out of 10 Raider draft picks.
 
I have no clue what to make of this draft. In the short term all I see is a bunch of depth and a bunch of projects. Maybe Ellison challenges for a starting safety spot, but I think we're in for another year of Hart and Weddle. I guess Martin and English will be in the rotation. I doubt any of the others sees the field much (barring injuries) if they even make the squad. There are several A.J. type of guys (like Dielman was - needing some polish but possessing "nastiness"). Seems like a bag full of magic beans hoping a couple sprout in two or three years. I guess the best news is he didn't give away any more future picks.

 
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Gr00vus said:
I have no clue what to make of this draft. In the short term all I see is a bunch of depth and a bunch of projects. Maybe Ellison challenges for a starting safety spot, but I think we're in for another year of Hart and Weddle. I guess Martin and English will be in the rotation. I doubt any of the others sees the field much (barring injuries) if they even make the squad. There are several A.J. type of guys (like Dielman was - needing some polish but possessing "nastiness"). Seems like a bag full of magic beans hoping a couple sprout in two or three years.
I agree. I understand folks who are critical of the areas addressed, but I don't think criticism of the actual players drafted is warranted at this point. How many people can actually claim to have spent any time watching English, Martin, Vasquez, Green, or Johnson?
I guess the best news is he didn't give away any more future picks.
I'll disagree with this, since next years picks will all be the last pick in each round anyway....
 
tommyGunZ said:
Gr00vus said:
I guess the best news is he didn't give away any more future picks.
I'll disagree with this, since next years picks will all be the last pick in each round anyway....
Right, I forgot they've already gone undefeated and won the title this upcoming season. It'd have been better to sell those out for another Hester or Weddle. :tumbleweed:
 
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tommyGunZ said:
Gr00vus said:
I guess the best news is he didn't give away any more future picks.
I'll disagree with this, since next years picks will all be the last pick in each round anyway....
Right, I forgot they've already gone undefeated and won the title this upcoming season. It'd have been better to sell those out for another Hester or Weddle. :unsure:
Oh crap. Groovus is in a bad mood again.
 
tommyGunZ said:
Gr00vus said:
I guess the best news is he didn't give away any more future picks.
I'll disagree with this, since next years picks will all be the last pick in each round anyway....
Right, I forgot they've already gone undefeated and won the title this upcoming season. It'd have been better to sell those out for another Hester or Weddle. :goodposting:
Oh crap. Groovus is in a bad mood again.
:wall:No no, just trying to offset some rampant Gunzing.
 
Having televised several games from Northern Illinois over the part couple years, English was a dominating over any person he faced. Even double teams. Competition was lower grade, but this conference seems to sprout regular NFL players like Turner as you all know, so be happy with this pick.

 
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LT looking healthy

By Kevin Acee

May 20, 2009, 2:11 p.m.

Observations from the third of this week's four coaching sessions:

-- Defenders are picking up every loose ball -- whether a fumble or incomplete pass and returning it to the opposite end zone. It's part of Ron Rivera's emphasis on being aggressive and defensive scoring.

-- LaDainian Tomlinson attended his first OTA after a couple days tending to a family issue. Tomlinson looked as healthy as ever. In one drill where he leaped over a series of bags, it appeared he might be as spry as he's been in a few years.

-- Vincent Jackson made a brilliant catch of a deep ball over Quentin Jammer. On the next play, Chris Chambers stole a ball from the defender on him. That's a nice 1-2 option for Philip Rivers. And that doesn't count real No. 1 receiver Antonio Gates, who is running well and made two outstanding catches a short while later.

-- Jackson also made a leaping grab between two defenders in the end zone. He's become so good it's more likely he makes the spectacular catch than doesn't.

-- Antwan Applewhite is working with the first team in Shawne Merriman's absence.

-- Antoine Cason worked with the ones as well, with Antonio Cromartie absent.

-- I saw a little of the package where three "outside" linebackers are on the field at the same time. It worked about as well as it did last season. But Shawne Merriman isn't working right now.

 
SAN DIEGO -- After watching the AFC West welcome two new head coaches -- Denver's Josh McDaniels and Kansas City's Todd Haley -- Chargers defensive coordinator Ron Rivera went on a mission this offseason to transform a pass defense that was porous in 2008.

The prospect of facing two teams favoring spread passing games out of an assortment of three- and four-receiver sets has placed the onus squarely on the shoulders of the Chargers' pass defense to lead the team to a fourth straight division crown. And Rivera has completely revamped the team's defensive playbook and juggled the Chargers' lineup in anticipation of the matchups with his division foes.

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When pass-rushing specialist Shawne Merriman went down with an injury, the Chargers' defense suffered. Here is a look at how the team ranked in key defensive categories in 2008:

Rivera, who served as the architect of a Chicago Bears defense that ranked second in total defense in 2005 and led the league in takeaways in 2006, is tasked with retooling a unit that finished 31st last season in passing yards allowed and surrendered the third most passing touchdowns (25).

Blending in elements of his Bears' defensive scheme with the 3-4 established by Wade Phillips while the current Cowboys coach was in San Diego, Rivera is hoping to capitalize on the best of both worlds in creating a defense that befuddles offenses with a multi-faceted look.

Under Rivera's predecessor, Ted Cottrell, the Chargers used a straight-forward approach that was overly reliant on Shawne Merriman and Shaun Phillips to overwhelm opponents. They used a steady diet of pressure packages that featured Merriman and Phillips crashing hard off the edges. The simple yet effective approach led to the team recording 42 sacks in 2007 (fifth most in the league), and the persistent pressure led to a league-high 30 interceptions.

Last season, however, the tactic failed miserably as Merriman missed 15 games with a knee injury. With the three-time Pro Bowl linebacker on the shelf, offenses loaded up on Phillips and the Chargers failed to discover an effective counter to the approach despite ramping up the pressure from all angles.

Eventually, the disappointing play from the unit led to Cottrell's dismissal at midseason and granted Rivera another opportunity to build an elite defense. While the unit's final rankings didn't suggest a drastic improvement from Cottrell's defense, a closer examination of its performance to finish 2008 suggests that Rivera has the defense headed in the right direction.

In the eight games that Rivera coordinated, the Chargers allowed just 236 passing yards a game and held opponents to an average of 18.5 points. Those numbers would have landed the Chargers in the top half of the league in those categories over that eight-game span.

Although the stretch run gave the league a preview of the Chargers' new defense under Rivera, the game that best exemplified the defense's potential was the wild-card victory over Indianapolis.

In that contest, the Chargers stymied the Colts' high-powered offense by deftly mixing in a variety of pressure with conventional man and zone coverage. The diverse game plan disrupted Peyton Manning's rhythm and kept the Colts from consistently sustaining drives. Moreover, the defense only allowed 17 points to an offense that averaged nearly 24 points during the regular season.

With that game serving as a foundation, the Chargers headed into the offseason intent on building a defense that taps into a talent-laden lineup and features star players on every level.

Former Pro Bowlers Antonio Cromartie, Jamal Williams, Phillips and Merriman headline a unit that is as talented as any in the league. And that short list doesn't include the bevy of young players that has flashed potential during their young careers (Quentin Jammer, Eric Weddle and Luis Castillo).

In addition, two newcomers could serve as critical factors in the improvement of the team's pass defense. Larry English, a first-round draft pick, gives the team another pass rusher to add to its rotation. The Northern Illinois standout will serve as a hybrid rusher off the edge and provide insurance against Merriman's injury. If Merriman's knee holds up and he returns to his old form, the Chargers have flexibility to attack offenses with a wave of rushers blitzing from multiple angles.

Kevin Burnett, a key free-agent signee from the Cowboys, adds a dynamic playmaker to the Chargers' sub-package. The fifth-year pro will align as the nickel linebacker and take on the challenge of covering the tight end in pass coverage. Burnett gives the team a bigger body to match up in coverage while also adding a potential rusher on inside blitzes.

With the front seven bolstered by those additions, Rivera and his defensive staff have focused on improving the consistency of the secondary. The group, which boasts three first-round picks (Antoine Cason, Jammer and Cromartie) and a high second-round selection (Weddle), was plagued by mental lapses and breakdowns in critical situations last season.

To improve the secondary's overall level of play, Rivera has emphasized accountability and awareness within the group during offseason workouts. Players are expected to know everyone else's role within the scheme and the importance of playing with the proper leverage or technique mandated by the call. By having the defensive coaching staff stress attention to detail, the Chargers hope to eliminate some of the freelancing that compromised the integrity of the scheme and resulted in key first-down conversions in late-game situations.

Rivera built a defense in Chicago that sparked the team on a Super Bowl run in 2006, and he is hoping that building a defense better equipped to handle the aerial assault set to take place in the AFC West will lead Chargers to a title in 2009.

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OCS Day 2 nuggets

Posted Yesterday at 12:25 PM by caseybolts

Just got back up from practice. Here are a few observations:

-The practices are voluntary so guys are going to miss occasionally, but Vincent Jackson and Kassim Osgood were on hand Tuesday and both had good mornings.

-Vaughn Martin is working with the second team at RE and batted down a pass during team drills. There's probably not a single player who has more to gain from OCS than Martin and you can tell he's really pushing himself.

-With Marcus McNeill and LJ Shelton sidelined, Brandyn Dobrowski spent a second-consecutive day working with the first team at left tackle. It's great experience for him.

-McNeill is in good shape and feels good but won't practice until training camp. It's no surprise. He told Chargers.com that much in March.

-Antwan Applewhite took most of the snaps at Sam with the first team and Larry English got a few as well. Jyles Tucker had a nice pass breakup in the backfield as well.

-Kevin Ellison isn't getting a ton of reps right now, but it's interesting to watch him during practice. You can tell he's very tuned in, carefully watching the veterans. He's all business even when he's not in there.

-If you put an 81 on Greg Carr, he could easily be mistaken for Kassim Osgood. They're both about 6-5 and have long legs that give them a long stride. It's almost comical.

-Clay Matthews, Sr., who starred for the Browns and Falcons during his 19-year playing career, attended both Monday and Tuesday's practices. Norv Turner was a young assistant at USC when Matthews played for the Trojans and the two are friends.

 
interesting artilce on found on the homer board:

"The more great players you have, the more difficult it gets working out contracts," Chargers GM A.J. Smith says. "My attitude is, it's part of the business.”

There's no such thing as an NFL team having too many good football players. That's like a drunk complaining about a hosted bar. But can a franchise have too many very good – or even great – players? It's possible.

And the Chargers may be the ones to find out very soon. In their case, too much could be too many.

“They are marquee players; they are attractive players to other teams,” Chargers General Manager A.J. Smith says. “Everyone wants to get better. If you have a team loaded with marquee players, the temptation is there. The more great players you have, the more difficult it gets working out contracts. My attitude is, it's part of the business.”

When the 2009 season ends, quarterback Philip Rivers, outside linebacker Shawne Merriman, top wide receiver Vincent Jackson, protean running back Darren Sproles and left tackle Marcus McNeill are due to become unrestricted free agents.

Rivers, Merriman and McNeill have been Pro Bowlers. Sproles should have made it last year (the fans voted him top return man) and Jackson has emerged as the go-to receiver. The team, which wants to sign Sproles to a long-term deal, has pinned a franchise tag on him or he could be gone by now.

No quarterback had a better 2008 than Rivers – just check his numbers – and re-signing him obviously is a priority. He has moved to the front of the class. He's made the dean's list.

Front office folks aren't enamored with Merriman's propensity to seek the Hollywood lifestyle, but they also realize that if he bounces back from last year's knee surgery and returns as arguably the game's most-feared defender, letting him go might prove idiotic. If Sproles is signed, that loose franchise tag could be used on Merriman.

McNeill's neck injury hindered him last year, but he's proved that, when healthy, he's a load. Jackson's trying to get a second DUI rap overturned and, if he doesn't, could face a brief league suspension.

The hitch is that the NFL now has no collective bargaining agreement with the players union and 2010 could be an uncapped year. If that happens, it would take six years of service instead of four for players to become unrestricted free agents, making the above quintet – except for Rivers – restricted, a big difference.

Smith, who says, “we're the victims of good drafting,” won't say if he's in talks regarding these players. (Tight end Antonio Gates, unrestricted after 2010, is another priority.) “We don't discuss contracts with the media, and I'm asked continuously.”

But, of course, being The Man With The Plan, Smith has one. In fact, he has two, cut from three.

“I've already looked out in front,” he says. “Usually I present a plan to (club President) Dean Spanos after the season. But this year is different for a lot of reasons. We know what we're up against with the union – a possible lockout (in 2011). It could happen.

“So, I presented three plans to Dean. Plan A we looked at six or seven times and it couldn't work. It included (LaDainian Tomlinson's) contract as it currently existed. It never would work. I took a lot of crap over the LT thing, but LT and I are fine.”

Tomlinson didn't want to leave. So they reworked LT's deal and moved on.

“Now we have plans B and C,” Smith says, “with interchangeable parts, and we're comfortable with both plans. Are they all going to get paid marquee top dollar? Is it possible? Do we want all these players back? You figure it out.”

I have. If healthy, they all should be re-signed. No reason to make other teams better at your lack of expense.

Plans B and C obviously include getting a deal done with their 27-year-old quarterback. Smith is aware quarterbacks are the only true geniuses of football.

“Players change, but there's usually one guy – the guy under center,” the GM says. “Look back. With few exceptions, if you don't have a great quarterback, it's very difficult to win a world championship. I think Philip is special.”

The team originally denied it used its first-round draft choice on rush linebacker Larry English because of potential problems re-signing Merriman. But if you know how Smith thinks, then you know he stockpiles players when he can at different positions, just in case.

“I leave it up to you, which should be pretty obvious,” Smith says. “There are many avenues this can go. We think Larry English is an outstanding football player who can help the Chargers win. You can speculate all you want; I have an eye on the future. I don't like surprises, unless it's on Christmas morning.

“All I care about this year is a healthy, productive Shawne Merriman, with Shaun Phillips, Larry English, Jyles Tucker and an intriguing local guy named Antwan Applewhite at that position. That's a good package. I don't know what's going to happen.

“We tried three straight years to work a contract with (cornerback) Drayton Florence and agent Drew Rosenhaus. We liked Drayton, but instead of waiting until the last second, we drafted Antonio Cromartie. We continued on. Drayton signed with Jacksonville. I said, 'Good luck.'”

It's a difficult thing, being an NFL GM.

“This is a cold, hard ... business,” this GM says. “And sometimes I don't like it.”

But the pay's good.

 
I thought this was interesting, especially from a guy who doesn't always seem even-handed when it comes to the Bolts:

Ranking the defensive backs in the AFC West

June 19, 2009 11:00 AM

Posted by ESPN.com's Bill Williamson

Our periodic AFC West position rankings continue with the best defensive backs in the AFC West, in my opinion:

1. Nnamdi Asomugha, Oakland: Nnamdi has become, I believe, the best cornerback in the NFL. He is the definition of a shut-down cornerback.

2. Champ Bailey, Denver: Bailey is going to turn 31 Monday, and he is coming off an injury-filled season. Still, he is brilliant. This is a first-ballot Hall of Famer who is still a top player.

3. Quentin Jammer, San Diego: There is a pretty big drop off from No. 2 to No. 3, but Jammer is a good player. He had a nice season in 2008.

4. Antonio Cromartie, San Diego: Cromartie probably won't be No. 4 on this list next year. He'll either bounce back from a poor 2008 or he'll continue to slip. Yet, the team thinks he will improve because he played with a hip injury nearly all of last season.

5. Brian Dawkins, Denver: Dawkins may be much lower on this list next year if his play drops at the age of 35. But he still brings plenty of panache to Denver.

6. Eric Weddle, San Diego: Weddle is a fine player, who made a ton of tackles for the Chargers last season. Expect continued improvement.

7. Antoine Cason, San Diego: If Cromartie slips, Cason can take his job. The sky is the limit for this second-year player.

8. Jarrad Page, Kansas City: Page is a solid safety, who has play-making ability.

9. Brandon Flowers, Kansas City: Flowers made nice strides as a rookie last season. He has a chance to be a fine player.

10. Andre Goodman, Denver: Denver signed Goodman as a free agent this offseason. He is a solid pro.

11. Chris Johnson, Oakland: Johnson took over for the cut DeAngelo Hall in the middle of the season and was much better than the high-priced Hall.

12. Brandon Carr, Kansas City: Like Flowers, Carr looked promising as a rookie cornerback last season. He has nice potential.
Too bad there isn't another safety on that list.
 
Nice piece on Cromartie today. Looks like he's in fantastic shape and could be in for a monster comeback year. Also looks like he's one of the dumber athletes in professional sports - 7 kids by 5 different women by age 24.
Good story, looks like he is primed for a return to pro bowl form. He may want to brush up on condom use, but that is a nother story.I think the chargers d w/ rivera at the helm and healthy players are gonna wreak havoc again

Excited for their season :thumbup:

 
Today was a good day............................

The News

ProFootballTalk.com is reporting that the Chargers have released linebacker Matt Wilhelm. Wilhelm has been in the league for six years, and he is now an unrestricted free agent.

Our View

Wilhelm lost his starting job to Tim Dobbins last season, and it looks like Dobbins will now have the job all to himself. Wilhelm is just an average player, but he shouldn't have a problem catching on somewhere else.

 
Nice piece on Cromartie today. Looks like he's in fantastic shape and could be in for a monster comeback year. Also looks like he's one of the dumber athletes in professional sports - 7 kids by 5 different women by age 24.
When I read that, I immediately worried that he'd be injury-prone this season from overtraining.I hope the article puffed up his training regimen to make it sound more extensive than it really is.

 
Oh really?

The "Football Outsiders Almanac," formerly the "Pro Football Prospectus" and the bible of football geeks, projects a certain team to finally win its first Lombardi Trophy in February.

In no uncertain terms.

So opens the chapter on the Chargers:

The San Diego Chargers are the prohibitive favorites to win Super Bowl XLIV. Our 2009 statistical projection for the Chargers is so off the charts that it may endanger the boundaries of reality.
Uh-oh indeed. We just got Gunzed by football outsiders. :thumbup:
 
Doing my best to jinx the Bolts as well - I'm a season ticket holder for the first time this year. :heart:
Good seats? What level of visual detail on the Charger Girls will you be able to achieve? Hair color, lipstick color, freckle color?
 
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Oh really?

The "Football Outsiders Almanac," formerly the "Pro Football Prospectus" and the bible of football geeks, projects a certain team to finally win its first Lombardi Trophy in February.

In no uncertain terms.

So opens the chapter on the Chargers:

The San Diego Chargers are the prohibitive favorites to win Super Bowl XLIV. Our 2009 statistical projection for the Chargers is so off the charts that it may endanger the boundaries of reality.
Uh-oh indeed. We just got Gunzed by football outsiders. :thumbup:
Has FO ever successfully predicted the Super Bowl winner?
 
Just Win Baby said:
Gr00vus said:
Oh really?

The "Football Outsiders Almanac," formerly the "Pro Football Prospectus" and the bible of football geeks, projects a certain team to finally win its first Lombardi Trophy in February.

In no uncertain terms.

So opens the chapter on the Chargers:

The San Diego Chargers are the prohibitive favorites to win Super Bowl XLIV. Our 2009 statistical projection for the Chargers is so off the charts that it may endanger the boundaries of reality.
Uh-oh indeed. We just got Gunzed by football outsiders. ;)
Has FO ever successfully predicted the Super Bowl winner?
I have no clue. Hopefully one of the super heads around here can tell us. MT can you help us out?
 

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