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NorrisB

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I think I would take a tuna sandwich for him right now. Vinny came in and played down right putrid too, I didnt think it would last with Vinny in there but I was trying to be optimistic about the situation.

They play:

TEN

Atlanta

GB

NO

SF

JAX

SEA

15. DAL

16. TB

I really dont like any of those matchups except for maybe NO and Atl, SF has a stingy passs defense Im not in love with the playoffs schedule either. In the 5 games he's been with out Delhomme he's average 48 yards and .4 TDs per game over an entire season that amounts to 768 yards and 6 TDs thats WW material. The league I own him in he's fallin behind Braylon Edwards and Brandon Marshall, and soon to be Isaac Bruce and possibly Sidney Rice. With Vinnys injury/horrible play and the upcoming schedule I dont see how theres any hope for him. I expect alot more games of 3 catches 35 yards 0TDs, with a big game sprinkled in every 4 weeks or so. I was wondering is anyone able to get anything for him?

 
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At best right now with Carr, Steve Smith is a WR#3 on a "good day". Otherwise he's a WR #4.

If Vinny plays, hes a low WR#2 to WR#3. He had 2 early catches when Vinny was in and they were passing alright. Vinny did get them a TD. However, he got injured early and Carr took over....

 
I didn't see the game yesterday, but did the Colts put 4 defenders on him? I don't know how else you can account for four no-name worthless receivers catching more passes than Steve Smith. I've certainly tempered my expectations for him, but there's still something to be said for starting a player who is his team's best offensive weapon.

 
I might miss out on a good week somewhere along the line, but he's not sniffing my starting lineup again until I see something decent out of that offense.

 
Traded him the week Delhomme went on IR for ADP. Worked out pretty good so far, I am 6-0 (doubleheaders) since.

 
Steve Smith died when Delhomme went down. The fact that John Fox has been unable to get the ball into his best player's hands tells me all I need to know about his coaching ability.

 
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If Vinny is done, so is Steve. Going out and getting a backup QB who is incapable of getting the ball to the best receiver in the league was a genius move. A guy like Kerry Collins would look fantastic right about now.

 
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In honor of David Carr and yesterday's game, I think that instead of "All Smith, All The Time" we should talk about him for the first 10 posts or so, and then ignore him completely and talk about other players instead.

 
Still wishing I would have sat Steve Smith and started Greg Jennings for tonight's game. Still won my matchup, but needed more than 18 yards from him yesterday

 
No. You won't be able to get anything for Steve Smith. :loco:
I put him on the trading block three weeks ago in my league and nobody wanted him. Nobody even made a bad offer for him. I think he's pretty much untradeable at this point unless you have someone in your league who thinks David Carr is the next Joe Montana. As long as Carr is the QB, Smith is no better than a WR3 - and the fact is he isn't even that good most of the time with Carr. With Vinny, Smith is no worse than a good WR2.
 
No. You won't be able to get anything for Steve Smith. :pickle:
I put him on the trading block three weeks ago in my league and nobody wanted him. Nobody even made a bad offer for him. I think he's pretty much untradeable at this point unless you have someone in your league who thinks David Carr is the next Joe Montana. As long as Carr is the QB, Smith is no better than a WR3 - and the fact is he isn't even that good most of the time with Carr. With Vinny, Smith is no worse than a good WR2.
I could have gotten Edgerrin James for him straight up 2 days ago, but I moved Harrison instead. I think you can move him if you really want to.... yeah, he had a rough week this week, but let's not forget that in the last game he played before this one with Vinny, he had 10-136 and a TD. Those are WR1 numbers. The game before that, with Carr at QB, he scored a TD as well. So, if people want to overreact based on 1 game, fine. Hold him and enjoy the good weeks and suffer through the bad... it's going to be a rollercoaster, just be prepared for that.
 
No. You won't be able to get anything for Steve Smith. :goodposting:
I put him on the trading block three weeks ago in my league and nobody wanted him. Nobody even made a bad offer for him. I think he's pretty much untradeable at this point unless you have someone in your league who thinks David Carr is the next Joe Montana. As long as Carr is the QB, Smith is no better than a WR3 - and the fact is he isn't even that good most of the time with Carr. With Vinny, Smith is no worse than a good WR2.
I could have gotten Edgerrin James for him straight up 2 days ago, but I moved Harrison instead. I think you can move him if you really want to.... yeah, he had a rough week this week, but let's not forget that in the last game he played before this one with Vinny, he had 10-136 and a TD. Those are WR1 numbers. The game before that, with Carr at QB, he scored a TD as well. So, if people want to overreact based on 1 game, fine. Hold him and enjoy the good weeks and suffer through the bad... it's going to be a rollercoaster, just be prepared for that.
At the risk of saying "I wish I was in your league" ... well ... I wish I was in your league. :pickle: Seriously, I can't trade the guy. Nobody wants him in my league. Like I said, I didn't even get any lowball offers so it's not like I was holding out for Tom Brady or something. Nobody will take him because they all see what's going on with Carr at QB. This isn't a case of over-reacting after one bad game, there is a clear trend involved with Carr at QB. Smith's numbers stink. Even the game he scored, which was definitely nice don't get me wrong, he barely caught any passes and Carr had major problems getting him the ball. I don't think 4 receptions and under 50 yards is a good week for Steve Smith. That's actually a bad week. But that's what he had the week he scored. Sure the TD bailed him out but don't ignore those other numbers. I don't think it's a rollercoaster ride for Smith with Carr at QB. I think it's the freaking Titanic and it's sinking fast. Honestly, I'd just as soon see Moore at QB as opposed to Carr. It's clear Carr can't get him the ball and makes no real effort to get him the ball. Carr has become a check-down QB whose first instinct is to run. He should not be starting for any team in the NFL right now. It's really that simple.
 
No. You won't be able to get anything for Steve Smith. :rolleyes:
I put him on the trading block three weeks ago in my league and nobody wanted him. Nobody even made a bad offer for him. I think he's pretty much untradeable at this point unless you have someone in your league who thinks David Carr is the next Joe Montana. As long as Carr is the QB, Smith is no better than a WR3 - and the fact is he isn't even that good most of the time with Carr. With Vinny, Smith is no worse than a good WR2.
I could have gotten Edgerrin James for him straight up 2 days ago, but I moved Harrison instead. I think you can move him if you really want to.... yeah, he had a rough week this week, but let's not forget that in the last game he played before this one with Vinny, he had 10-136 and a TD. Those are WR1 numbers. The game before that, with Carr at QB, he scored a TD as well. So, if people want to overreact based on 1 game, fine. Hold him and enjoy the good weeks and suffer through the bad... it's going to be a rollercoaster, just be prepared for that.
At the risk of saying "I wish I was in your league" ... well ... I wish I was in your league. :) Seriously, I can't trade the guy. Nobody wants him in my league. Like I said, I didn't even get any lowball offers so it's not like I was holding out for Tom Brady or something. Nobody will take him because they all see what's going on with Carr at QB. This isn't a case of over-reacting after one bad game, there is a clear trend involved with Carr at QB. Smith's numbers stink. Even the game he scored, which was definitely nice don't get me wrong, he barely caught any passes and Carr had major problems getting him the ball. I don't think 4 receptions and under 50 yards is a good week for Steve Smith. That's actually a bad week. But that's what he had the week he scored. Sure the TD bailed him out but don't ignore those other numbers. I don't think it's a rollercoaster ride for Smith with Carr at QB. I think it's the freaking Titanic and it's sinking fast. Honestly, I'd just as soon see Moore at QB as opposed to Carr. It's clear Carr can't get him the ball and makes no real effort to get him the ball. Carr has become a check-down QB whose first instinct is to run. He should not be starting for any team in the NFL right now. It's really that simple.
:goodposting: I'm trying to move him now with no avail. I would rather him not be on my team than have to wonder how he'll do this year. This is my first, and likely last year of having Smith on my roster. Too much of a headache. I'd much rather grab TO next time around.

 
No. You won't be able to get anything for Steve Smith. :confused:
I put him on the trading block three weeks ago in my league and nobody wanted him. Nobody even made a bad offer for him. I think he's pretty much untradeable at this point unless you have someone in your league who thinks David Carr is the next Joe Montana. As long as Carr is the QB, Smith is no better than a WR3 - and the fact is he isn't even that good most of the time with Carr. With Vinny, Smith is no worse than a good WR2.
I could have gotten Edgerrin James for him straight up 2 days ago, but I moved Harrison instead. I think you can move him if you really want to.... yeah, he had a rough week this week, but let's not forget that in the last game he played before this one with Vinny, he had 10-136 and a TD. Those are WR1 numbers. The game before that, with Carr at QB, he scored a TD as well. So, if people want to overreact based on 1 game, fine. Hold him and enjoy the good weeks and suffer through the bad... it's going to be a rollercoaster, just be prepared for that.
At the risk of saying "I wish I was in your league" ... well ... I wish I was in your league. :shrug: Seriously, I can't trade the guy. Nobody wants him in my league. Like I said, I didn't even get any lowball offers so it's not like I was holding out for Tom Brady or something. Nobody will take him because they all see what's going on with Carr at QB. This isn't a case of over-reacting after one bad game, there is a clear trend involved with Carr at QB. Smith's numbers stink. Even the game he scored, which was definitely nice don't get me wrong, he barely caught any passes and Carr had major problems getting him the ball. I don't think 4 receptions and under 50 yards is a good week for Steve Smith. That's actually a bad week. But that's what he had the week he scored. Sure the TD bailed him out but don't ignore those other numbers. I don't think it's a rollercoaster ride for Smith with Carr at QB. I think it's the freaking Titanic and it's sinking fast. Honestly, I'd just as soon see Moore at QB as opposed to Carr. It's clear Carr can't get him the ball and makes no real effort to get him the ball. Carr has become a check-down QB whose first instinct is to run. He should not be starting for any team in the NFL right now. It's really that simple.
If his trade value is seriously that low, hold onto him. I don't think you did yourself any favors by putting him on the block. Find a team that's deep at RB but only has 2 good WRs. Offer Smith for his 3rd RB. That's how I got James... he had Addai, Marion Barber, and Edge, but only had 2 really good WRs and was starting Amani Toomer. He jumped all over Smith/Harrison for James.What's the extent of Testaverde's injury?
 
No. You won't be able to get anything for Steve Smith. :banned:
I put him on the trading block three weeks ago in my league and nobody wanted him. Nobody even made a bad offer for him. I think he's pretty much untradeable at this point unless you have someone in your league who thinks David Carr is the next Joe Montana. As long as Carr is the QB, Smith is no better than a WR3 - and the fact is he isn't even that good most of the time with Carr. With Vinny, Smith is no worse than a good WR2.
I could have gotten Edgerrin James for him straight up 2 days ago, but I moved Harrison instead. I think you can move him if you really want to.... yeah, he had a rough week this week, but let's not forget that in the last game he played before this one with Vinny, he had 10-136 and a TD. Those are WR1 numbers. The game before that, with Carr at QB, he scored a TD as well. So, if people want to overreact based on 1 game, fine. Hold him and enjoy the good weeks and suffer through the bad... it's going to be a rollercoaster, just be prepared for that.
At the risk of saying "I wish I was in your league" ... well ... I wish I was in your league. :) Seriously, I can't trade the guy. Nobody wants him in my league. Like I said, I didn't even get any lowball offers so it's not like I was holding out for Tom Brady or something. Nobody will take him because they all see what's going on with Carr at QB. This isn't a case of over-reacting after one bad game, there is a clear trend involved with Carr at QB. Smith's numbers stink. Even the game he scored, which was definitely nice don't get me wrong, he barely caught any passes and Carr had major problems getting him the ball. I don't think 4 receptions and under 50 yards is a good week for Steve Smith. That's actually a bad week. But that's what he had the week he scored. Sure the TD bailed him out but don't ignore those other numbers. I don't think it's a rollercoaster ride for Smith with Carr at QB. I think it's the freaking Titanic and it's sinking fast. Honestly, I'd just as soon see Moore at QB as opposed to Carr. It's clear Carr can't get him the ball and makes no real effort to get him the ball. Carr has become a check-down QB whose first instinct is to run. He should not be starting for any team in the NFL right now. It's really that simple.
If his trade value is seriously that low, hold onto him. I don't think you did yourself any favors by putting him on the block. Find a team that's deep at RB but only has 2 good WRs. Offer Smith for his 3rd RB. That's how I got James... he had Addai, Marion Barber, and Edge, but only had 2 really good WRs and was starting Amani Toomer. He jumped all over Smith/Harrison for James.What's the extent of Testaverde's injury?
No update from Fox today. That doesn't make me very confident he'll be OK for Week 9 but we'll see.Back to Smith - his trade value is that low. I tossed him out onto the trading block to gauge interest and there was none. But I see you clarified your offer for Edge. You had to package Smith with another player to get him. I could probably move Smith in a 2-for-1 if I wanted to but that's really selling low. I like the trade from your perspective because Harrison's knee injury worries me (I bet that guy you traded with loves you this week :D ). But your offer proves my point - if you have to package the player most people expected was WR1A or WR1B this season that tells you how low his value has sunk.And after yesterday, you're not likely going to have much success trading him for much. So Smith owners might as well hold onto him and hope he can show something at some point and then move in. The question becomes: Do you dare start him with Carr at QB? I posted a thread asking that very question several weeks ago and here we are in Week 8 and it's even more obvious that if Carr is the QB Smith is a pitiful fantasy WR.
 
I have both Smith and Harrison and the only way to deal either one of them is to include a high end QB like Manning or Palmer to get anything respectable in return. I would take Lee Evans for either of them at this point. If your team is in the hunt I dont think you have the luxury of waiting to see if Smith can turn it around.

 
Any update with Smith's QB? I see that Carr won't play again this season...Is Vinny starting?
Carr is expected to start. Not sure where you saw Carr won't play again this season but that info isn't correct.Unfortunately. Frankly, I think the Panthers should give Moore a shot. I know they're in the hunt for a division title and the playoffs and they may not want to run the risk of turning the season over to a rookie QB. But it's pretty clear Carr can't get the job done so how could Moore be any worse?
 
No. You won't be able to get anything for Steve Smith. :bag:
I put him on the trading block three weeks ago in my league and nobody wanted him. Nobody even made a bad offer for him. I think he's pretty much untradeable at this point unless you have someone in your league who thinks David Carr is the next Joe Montana. As long as Carr is the QB, Smith is no better than a WR3 - and the fact is he isn't even that good most of the time with Carr. With Vinny, Smith is no worse than a good WR2.
I could have gotten Edgerrin James for him straight up 2 days ago, but I moved Harrison instead. I think you can move him if you really want to.... yeah, he had a rough week this week, but let's not forget that in the last game he played before this one with Vinny, he had 10-136 and a TD. Those are WR1 numbers. The game before that, with Carr at QB, he scored a TD as well. So, if people want to overreact based on 1 game, fine. Hold him and enjoy the good weeks and suffer through the bad... it's going to be a rollercoaster, just be prepared for that.
At the risk of saying "I wish I was in your league" ... well ... I wish I was in your league. :) Seriously, I can't trade the guy. Nobody wants him in my league. Like I said, I didn't even get any lowball offers so it's not like I was holding out for Tom Brady or something. Nobody will take him because they all see what's going on with Carr at QB. This isn't a case of over-reacting after one bad game, there is a clear trend involved with Carr at QB. Smith's numbers stink. Even the game he scored, which was definitely nice don't get me wrong, he barely caught any passes and Carr had major problems getting him the ball. I don't think 4 receptions and under 50 yards is a good week for Steve Smith. That's actually a bad week. But that's what he had the week he scored. Sure the TD bailed him out but don't ignore those other numbers. I don't think it's a rollercoaster ride for Smith with Carr at QB. I think it's the freaking Titanic and it's sinking fast. Honestly, I'd just as soon see Moore at QB as opposed to Carr. It's clear Carr can't get him the ball and makes no real effort to get him the ball. Carr has become a check-down QB whose first instinct is to run. He should not be starting for any team in the NFL right now. It's really that simple.
If his trade value is seriously that low, hold onto him. I don't think you did yourself any favors by putting him on the block. Find a team that's deep at RB but only has 2 good WRs. Offer Smith for his 3rd RB. That's how I got James... he had Addai, Marion Barber, and Edge, but only had 2 really good WRs and was starting Amani Toomer. He jumped all over Smith/Harrison for James.What's the extent of Testaverde's injury?
No update from Fox today. That doesn't make me very confident he'll be OK for Week 9 but we'll see.Back to Smith - his trade value is that low. I tossed him out onto the trading block to gauge interest and there was none. But I see you clarified your offer for Edge. You had to package Smith with another player to get him. I could probably move Smith in a 2-for-1 if I wanted to but that's really selling low. I like the trade from your perspective because Harrison's knee injury worries me (I bet that guy you traded with loves you this week :D ). But your offer proves my point - if you have to package the player most people expected was WR1A or WR1B this season that tells you how low his value has sunk.

And after yesterday, you're not likely going to have much success trading him for much. So Smith owners might as well hold onto him and hope he can show something at some point and then move in. The question becomes: Do you dare start him with Carr at QB? I posted a thread asking that very question several weeks ago and here we are in Week 8 and it's even more obvious that if Carr is the QB Smith is a pitiful fantasy WR.
No, I didn't trade themn both.. I did a poor job of relaying that. It was Smith OR Harrison for Edge. He chose Marvin, but would have made the deal for either player.
 
Sadly I'm leaning toward starting Stokley over Smith this week. Smith may be healthy, but it doesn't matter with Carr at the helm... Smith had 1 target in 2.5+ quarters while the Panthers were playing catch-up almost that entire time. In any close game Carolina is going to try to run, run, run and pick there spots through the air. If Smith can't put up catches in last weeks scenario I don't see him doing much against the Titans this weekend-

 
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i just traded Smith and Fred Taylor for Gore and Crayton. Its an even trade but I figure Crayton may have more upside than Stevie. Plus I have Driver and Fitz.

 
I have been offerred Stallworth or Colston for S. Smith.... Should I bite???
:yes:Things aren't looking too good for Mr. Smith lately. :no:
Why the hell havent I been offered something that good. :rant:
Wow, has Smith's value taken this much of a hit? I can't tell if this is fishing or not. I don't have smith, but I do have Stallworth and think I'd prefer to have Smith. I didn't realize that Stallworth > Smith at this point. I guess I should start working the phones.
 
I don't know about his fantasy value, but he's a guy I'd like to have on my team.

http://blogs.charlotte.com/panthers/2007/1...-has-messa.html

October 31, 2007

Smith has message for rookie

Very interesting incident just happened in the locker room. Two reporters were talking with rookie receiver Dwayne Jarrett about his frustration at barely getting to play after being a second-round pick.

As Jarrett was talking, receiver Steve Smith, who hasn’t been talking to the media recently, walked out to his own locker and talked to Jarrett.

“Instead of talking to the media, why don’t you go watch some film?’’ Smith said.

Jarrett gave a slight smile and kept talking to the media.

Smith, followed up in a very strong tone.

“Seriously,’’ Smith said.

Jarrett did keep talking and we’ll have a full story on his rough rookie season in tomorrow’s paper. – PAT YASINSKAS

 
Ahh ok. Well I now have both Smith and Harrison. Maybe I'll see if I can trade one of them for Edge next week. :lmao:
Is the Edge owner in your league 3 deep at RB, but have a weak/average WR in his starting lineup? If so, give it a shot. The Edge owner in my league was willing to trade Edge and end the debates about who to start each week between James, Barber, and Addai and add the potential explosiveness of Smith or Harrison to what was a very pedestrian receiving corps.
 
I am planning on benching Smith for Patrick Crayton. Crayton has a great passer in Romo and Philly will be paying a lot of attention to TO and Whitten. Smith has Carr (choke) and who ever the best corner is on the opposing team.

 
Man, lots of doom and gloom in here. Nobody thinks they might try to get Smith the ball more? I'm thinking of making an offer for him.

 
Man, lots of doom and gloom in here. Nobody thinks they might try to get Smith the ball more?
I continue to hope they can but the problem is the facts strongly suggest that simply isn't going to happen with Carr at QB. I'm pretty much stuck starting him so I hope I'm wrong and Smith can have a big day - or at least catch 6-8 passes and be of high value in PPR. But Carr has shown no indication he can get the ball to Smith frequently or help him put up his usual production. The doom and gloom is easy to trace - it's all because of what we've seen happen to Smith with Carr at QB. It's been ugly and if there's anyone who can provide a reason why Carr might turn things around I'd like to hear it because the evidence on the field strongly indicates he doesn't have the slightest clue how to utilize Smith and get him the ball as often as he should receive it.
 
Man, lots of doom and gloom in here. Nobody thinks they might try to get Smith the ball more?
I continue to hope they can but the problem is the facts strongly suggest that simply isn't going to happen with Carr at QB. I'm pretty much stuck starting him so I hope I'm wrong and Smith can have a big day - or at least catch 6-8 passes and be of high value in PPR. But Carr has shown no indication he can get the ball to Smith frequently or help him put up his usual production. The doom and gloom is easy to trace - it's all because of what we've seen happen to Smith with Carr at QB. It's been ugly and if there's anyone who can provide a reason why Carr might turn things around I'd like to hear it because the evidence on the field strongly indicates he doesn't have the slightest clue how to utilize Smith and get him the ball as often as he should receive it.
Yeah, I guess you're right. For a fantasy team with nothing to lose, though, I think he's a pretty good buy low target. Maybe I put too much faith in coaches being intelligent enough to properly utilize their strengths.
 
Man, lots of doom and gloom in here. Nobody thinks they might try to get Smith the ball more? I'm thinking of making an offer for him.
Trying to get the ball to Smith is not the issue. Carr actually getting it to him is the problem.For Delhomme's 3 starts Smith had 16 recpts 281 yards and 4 TD's, even with Vinnie for 1 1/2 games Smith had 12 catches 156 yards and 1 TD.In 2 1/2 games with Carr at QB, Smith has 9 catches for 79 yards and one TD.How is it that a 43 year old QB can walk off the street and make Smith productive? Because Carr has a crappy arm, won't take a chance and let Smith make a play, and most importantly, the guys in the locker room do not respect him. Jake is their leader, always has been. When Vinnie arrived, he earned everyone's trust very quickly. Carr has not shown the leadership needed in his position. Anyone see the end of the Colts game last week? With two minutes to go and nothing to lose, Carr kept throwing 5-10 yard dump off passes to the TE, RB, and finished the series by hitting Colbert on a 10 yard out. The Panters are on the 30 yard line with one last play and Carr led Colbert out of bounds to end it. He didn't try to go down the field. I am not talking about to Smith. He didn't try period. The score is 31-7, there is no point in playing it safe. Just take a few shots and try to finish the game with some dignity. Carr played that series like the whole team views him, as a p***y.
 
:shrug:

I have Smith in both my money leagues.... Man did ever lose both games for me last week. Lost by total of 3 pts in both leagues. I do however see light at the end of the tunnel. This guy is just too good to keep down. I personally think the issue is John Fox not letting Carr throw down the field.

How does a #1 pick like Carr end up being so inept. He had some flashes of good play in houston.

Bottom line, to wint the game they have to use Smith, he id down right now but man they cannot help but to force it to him eventually.

 
Anyone see the end of the Colts game last week? With two minutes to go and nothing to lose, Carr kept throwing 5-10 yard dump off passes to the TE, RB, and finished the series by hitting Colbert on a 10 yard out. The Panters are on the 30 yard line with one last play and Carr led Colbert out of bounds to end it. He didn't try to go down the field. I am not talking about to Smith. He didn't try period. The score is 31-7, there is no point in playing it safe. Just take a few shots and try to finish the game with some dignity. Carr played that series like the whole team views him, as a p***y.
That last drive made me ill. Carr kept doing dump off passes, and to the middle of the field no less, with time ticking. They weren't going to win the game on that drive, but it sure would have been great practice at the 2 minute drill. The drive should have been approached as if it would have won them the game. It was awful to watch. Maybe Carr will have a good game this weekend. You can only hope. He definitely needs something to boost his confidence, because he is playing like he has none. I wonder how much those gloves he wears really helps him. He is always yanking at them.
 
the fact that steve smith is tanking the rest of the season is just fine by me, just picked him up in my dynasty league, the worse he does, the worse i do, and i have three #1 picks

just traded LJ, Reggie Brown for Steve Smith, a #1 and a #3,

lets get to the offseason already...

at this point it doe appear Delhomme will be back QB'in in Carolina next year correct? I'm gonna look to pick him up off the waiver wire week 14 or so...

 
After hearding that Carr would once again be throwing the ball this week made me feel like Fox must really want Carr behind center. . . .and after last weeks game and every other game that he has been the QB for, it was clear that even if Smith has another huge game or 2, its the other 6 remaining that will cause my team to be far too up and down. . . .so I bailed on him. . . .dynasty would be a great buy low, but in redraft, if you can sell him on name alone and let someone else ride out the storm.

For me it was giving up Smith & Campbell for Driver & Palmer . . . .I think I ripped the guy off, but he's happy. . .

If you dont have another #1 wr, you might want to take your chances since you obviously wont get much of another WR for him. . . .but who knows. . .maybe your owner wants to "sell high" on Lee Evans, or low on CJ . . . .both I think will be upgrades over Smith

 
the fact that steve smith is tanking the rest of the season is just fine by me, just picked him up in my dynasty league, the worse he does, the worse i do, and i have three #1 picksjust traded LJ, Reggie Brown for Steve Smith, a #1 and a #3, lets get to the offseason already...at this point it doe appear Delhomme will be back QB'in in Carolina next year correct? I'm gonna look to pick him up off the waiver wire week 14 or so...
I don't think Smith has any intentions on tanking the season. He will try his hardest, but he has to get the ball for him to do anything.Delhomme will be the quarterback next season. It's too bad he was injured this year. He had his best start ever at the beginning of the year. He is a great leader for the team. He caught a lot of flack last year for many things that weren't his fault. He can make some boneheaded throws from time to time, but he wasn't the cause of last years disappointing season. I've always respected how he takes the heat for when they lose, and never takes the glory for when they win. He gives his team credit for their accomplishments. They need him.
 
Smith will be crap the rest of the year, he hasn't even had one so-so game wtih Carr behind the line. I own Smith in a number of dynasty and redraft leagues, so believe me, I'd like to see him do better, but this year? Forget about it. I'd take a bag of chips for him at this point. :unsure:

 
I am targeting Smith right now. The guy is too good not to start putting up some numbers. I understand the frustration with Carr....but I keep thinking that AJ was able to post solid numbers with Carr tossing him the ball - what happened to him to make him not able to get Smith the ball? Is it the gloves?

 
I for one am standing far, far from the ledge.

I plan on holding onto Smith unless I get a legit offer. After last week I was offered Lenwhale White for him and laughed it off (.5ppr where these two would really just be swapping places as my flex).

I know Carr looks bad. I mean, playing himself out of the league bad. But the way I look at it, things literally cannot get much worse than this for SS owners. They can only go up.

So if you are winning despite Smith (which I am) I say you hold him and wait for things to pick up. Remember: Sanity always prevails.

 
Two reasons why I'm holding onto Smith as a WR2 and won't be trading him any time soon:

- He's still a guy who can score every time he touches the ball. Even if Fox has to start running reverses or having Carr throw him screens, he can still break off an 80-yard TD out of nothing. He becomes a bigtime risk/reward play and I'm not crazy about that, but he's worth having.

- Carr holds the ball too long and takes way too many hits. There's a decent change he will get hurt at some point this year. I don't wish an injury on anybody, but if Carr does go down then the Panthers will wind up with a better QB in his place, no matter who that is.

 
I'm in a start 3 receiver (WR/TE) league.

I just offered the Steve Smith owner Witten and Driver for Smith. (Smith would be my WR3).

My offer was rejected.

 
Carr used to do a good job of getting Johnson the ball enough for him to put up great fantasy numbers. Not to take anything away from Johnson, but I would argue that Smith has more talent than Johnson. Can someone explain why Carr couldn't do the same for Smith?

 
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