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***Official 1/6 Select Committee thread*** (3 Viewers)
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Yes...and your need to publicly announce to disengage is nice? It is a two way street.
Witz
Footballguy
I’ll respectfully disagree. I can’t recall a single time you have posted a link relating to Trump that hasn’t been from either the GatewayPudit or a Pro-Trump website but if so I apologize if I missed it.
You’ve bought into Trump’s voice that the MSM is bad and while it is important to look across a variety of sources, you can’t always settle on those that are strictly pro-Trump (I mean you can but I believe you are doing a disservice to yourself in that case).
I’ve posted before that I was not in favor of either series of events but imo one was more harmful than the other.
Witz
Footballguy
moleculo
Footballguy
I have disengaged. This particular thread is not on topic and will inevitably turn into a slap fight like has happened many times before. Please stop.
The poll was on topic. It demonstrates the partisan motives of this. To pretend this is some unbiased fact-finding commission is silly.
FairWarning
Footballguy
I agree. I don’t see the point of this, what is the end game here?Sinn Fein said:
knowledge dropper
Footballguy
Have BLM/Antifa stopped? One lasted three hours and the other over a year.
I read many things from many sources. I’m not going to trust NYT, CNN, and Washington Post. They have shown their hand too many times. It’s not even as much the fake news as it is the stuff they choose to bury.
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Amused to Death
Footballguy
So...we're NOT just discussing the Jan. 6 Commission here? I see Antifa/BLM and popularity polls have surfaced. Headed the same way as the thread that got locked. Good job, get another thread locked.
Exactly! The hypocracy if off the charts by Pelosi and the shameless Dems who looked the other way at the BLM riots. Let's get a committee to throw the BLM rioting thugs in jail.
dozer
Footballguy
You’ll get no argument from me. I’ll post their name, update their cases, and curse them for the criminals they are. Please bump that thread and let’s discuss it there.
Kind of hard to ignore the elephant in the room. Well, I guess you'd have to if you wanted to see this as anything other than one giant sham. So, I do see your line of thinking.
Amused to Death
Footballguy
Yeah, don't keep it to news and info or anything. Just crap all over another thread. Whether you think its a "sham" or not doesn't matter - this is happening. Complain about it somewhere else.
squistion
Footballguy
It is Rasmussen. That is all one has to say. One doesn't have to do any misrepresentation.
Rasmussen is considered an outlier among major polling organizations, always leaning right usually about 3-5 points from the others (which is why Fox, Breitbart, The Gateway Pundit, etc., always cite them as gospel).
dozer
Footballguy
Are you aware that 35 Republican House members, and 7 Republican Senators voted in favor of a J6 investigation?
That’s 42 Republicans that didn’t think it was a sham… isn’t that the elephant in the room?
Who is complaining? I like to watch the Dems make fools of themselves again.
Here is some info: It's one giant sham.
Shocking. Another PPP move. He's just a #thebiglie RINO. There was zero chance she would appoint objective committee. No objectivity, no credibility. Sham.
HellToupee
Footballguy
Did the FBI lead the insurrection like Michigan?
dozer
Footballguy
Would you refer to all 42 of the Representatives and Senators are RINOs?
Perhaps there are a couple of the 42 that you may respect to some degree, and you would be ok with their ability to act in a bipartisan fashion…
dozer
Footballguy
Agree. Waaaaay too many January 6 threads. Hard to keep track. Let's keep it all in here.
The Commish
Footballguy
Yes please....keep all this "discussion" in here...TIA. Damn it when is Tim coming back?!?!?!?!?!
dozer
Footballguy
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and House Democrats are considering inviting former House Republican Rep. Denver Riggleman to serve as an adviser to the Jan. 6 select committee investigating the Capitol assault.
Riggleman, a former intelligence officer who lost his primary last year, has been a forceful critic of other Republicans over election-related disinformation and QAnon conspiracy theories.
Riggleman, a former intelligence officer who lost his primary last year, has been a forceful critic of other Republicans over election-related disinformation and QAnon conspiracy theories.
Amused to Death
Footballguy
I've seen this memo before but it should get more attention. Hopefully Miller will be subpoenaed to appear before the committee to explain it.
The Commish
Footballguy
Amused to Death
Footballguy
More on Christopher Miller's memo to the NG.
... Capitol Police and D.C. National Guard officials acknowledged that by Jan. 4 they understood that "… the January 6th event would not be like any of the previous protests held in 2020. We knew that militia groups and white supremacist organizations would be attending. We also knew that some of these participants were intending to bring firearms and other weapons to the event. We knew that there was a strong potential for violence and that Congress was the target."
On that same day, former acting Defense Secretary Christopher Miller issued a memo to the secretary of the Army placing some extremely unusual limits on National Guard forces for that event. It's not a to-do list. It's a list of thou shalt nots. A long list. A list that says guard forces can't arrest any of the pro-Trump protesters, or search them, or even touch them. And that's just for starters.
The full memo shows that the D.C. Guard did receive a request from D.C. government for guard presence during the Jan. 6 event. Miller responds promptly to go ahead, so long as the soldiers are given no weapons, no body armor, and no helmets. They can bring agents like pepper spray or flashbangs. They can't share any gear with Capitol Police or Metro D.C. Police. They can't … really do much of anything.
... Capitol Police and D.C. National Guard officials acknowledged that by Jan. 4 they understood that "… the January 6th event would not be like any of the previous protests held in 2020. We knew that militia groups and white supremacist organizations would be attending. We also knew that some of these participants were intending to bring firearms and other weapons to the event. We knew that there was a strong potential for violence and that Congress was the target."
On that same day, former acting Defense Secretary Christopher Miller issued a memo to the secretary of the Army placing some extremely unusual limits on National Guard forces for that event. It's not a to-do list. It's a list of thou shalt nots. A long list. A list that says guard forces can't arrest any of the pro-Trump protesters, or search them, or even touch them. And that's just for starters.
The full memo shows that the D.C. Guard did receive a request from D.C. government for guard presence during the Jan. 6 event. Miller responds promptly to go ahead, so long as the soldiers are given no weapons, no body armor, and no helmets. They can bring agents like pepper spray or flashbangs. They can't share any gear with Capitol Police or Metro D.C. Police. They can't … really do much of anything.
dkp993
Footballguy
Well weLoveTrump.com has been used as a source too so I’d have to disagree with your last paragraph.
Grace Under Pressure
Footballguy
List of questions:
"Who told them to go to the Capitol?"
"Who told them to go to the Capitol?"
Herb
Footballguy
Anyone else think Trump personally ordered the NG stand-down in the hopes that his people would successfully shut down certification? Not sure if this committee could prove it even if it's true, and absolutely positive that it wouldn't register with his base at all as a threat to America. Many here would cheer it on.
2Squirrels1Nut
Footballguy
Expecting McCarthy to nominate the 76 Flyers at this point.
Amused to Death
Footballguy
I don't he personally ordered a stand-down, but he did install his loyalists in the Pentagon in a very unusual step post-election. Not surprisingly, Miller was one of those loyalists.
2Squirrels1Nut
Footballguy
Defense will be "He didn't tell them to go to the Capitol. He told them to stop the steal."
Which to rational people is the same thing.
Amused to Death
Footballguy
I believe the sequence of events was the months-long message of "I was robbed!! Stop the steal!1!", then "fight like hell" and "trial by combat", then "march to the Capitol".
Grace Under Pressure
Footballguy
I hear you, but he definitely told them to go to the Capitol and said that he would go with them.
dozer
Footballguy
The Acting SecDef memo when looked at through a timeline:
Also on Jan. 3: An internal Capitol Police intelligence report warns of a violent scenario in which “Congress itself” could be the target of angry Trump supporters in the upcoming rally.
“Supporters of the current president see January 6, 2021, as the last opportunity to overturn the results of the presidential election,” the memo states. “This sense of desperation and disappointment may lead to more of an incentive to become violent. Unlike previous post-election protests, the targets of the pro-Trump supporters are not necessarily the counter-protesters as they were previously, but rather Congress itself is the target on the 6th.”
Jan. 4: Miller issues a memo to Army Secretary Ryan McCarthy requiring Miller’s “personal authorization” for the DC National Guard to employ “riot control agents” and other tactics
Jan. 4: The National Park Service increases the crowd estimate on the January 6 rally permit to 30,000 – up from the original 5,000 in December.
Also on Jan. 4: Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund asks the Senate and House sergeants at arms for permission to put the National Guard on emergency standby. They reject that idea and suggest instead that he informally seek out his Guard contacts, asking them to “lean forward” and be on alert in case the Capitol Police need help.
Jan. 5: The FBI office in Norfolk, Virginia issues a warning that extremists are preparing to travel to Washington to commit violence and “war.”
Also on Jan. 5: Rep. Mo Brooks (R-AL) receives a call from White House Political Director Brian Jack asking him to speak at the “Stop the Steal” rally on January 6. Brooks agrees.
January 6, 2021...
Timeline with links
Also on Jan. 3: An internal Capitol Police intelligence report warns of a violent scenario in which “Congress itself” could be the target of angry Trump supporters in the upcoming rally.
“Supporters of the current president see January 6, 2021, as the last opportunity to overturn the results of the presidential election,” the memo states. “This sense of desperation and disappointment may lead to more of an incentive to become violent. Unlike previous post-election protests, the targets of the pro-Trump supporters are not necessarily the counter-protesters as they were previously, but rather Congress itself is the target on the 6th.”
Jan. 4: Miller issues a memo to Army Secretary Ryan McCarthy requiring Miller’s “personal authorization” for the DC National Guard to employ “riot control agents” and other tactics
Jan. 4: The National Park Service increases the crowd estimate on the January 6 rally permit to 30,000 – up from the original 5,000 in December.
Also on Jan. 4: Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund asks the Senate and House sergeants at arms for permission to put the National Guard on emergency standby. They reject that idea and suggest instead that he informally seek out his Guard contacts, asking them to “lean forward” and be on alert in case the Capitol Police need help.
Jan. 5: The FBI office in Norfolk, Virginia issues a warning that extremists are preparing to travel to Washington to commit violence and “war.”
Also on Jan. 5: Rep. Mo Brooks (R-AL) receives a call from White House Political Director Brian Jack asking him to speak at the “Stop the Steal” rally on January 6. Brooks agrees.
January 6, 2021...
Timeline with links
HellToupee
Footballguy
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