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***Official 1/6 Select Committee thread*** (1 Viewer)

No, that’s only true in a very limited circumstance. It’s still illegal for a campaign contributions to be used for personal expenses.*
 

*If the candidate has made a loan to his campaign before the election, the campaign can use contributions received after the election to pay him back.  The funds can then be used by the candidate for personal expenses. The Supreme Court ruled that this sort of indirect way of converting contributions to personal use had to be allowed because of the First Amendment.
Sort of seems like the practical outcome of this is "campaign contributions can be used for personal expenses as long as the candidate has enough wealth that he/she doesn't really need the money (such that he/she can loan the money in advance)"?

 
No, that’s only true in a very limited circumstance. It’s still illegal for a campaign contributions to be used for personal expenses.*
 

*If the candidate has made a loan to his campaign before the election, the campaign can use contributions received after the election to pay him back.  The funds can then be used by the candidate for personal expenses. The Supreme Court ruled that this sort of indirect way of converting contributions to personal use had to be allowed because of the First Amendment.
That was it, thank you! 

 
No, that’s only true in a very limited circumstance. It’s still illegal for a campaign contributions to be used for personal expenses.*
 

*If the candidate has made a loan to his campaign before the election, the campaign can use contributions received after the election to pay him back.  The funds can then be used by the candidate for personal expenses. The Supreme Court ruled that this sort of indirect way of converting contributions to personal use had to be allowed because of the First Amendment.
Yeah, like you’d know. Everyone thinks they’re an expert!

 
Here’s the ruling from Judge Timothy Kelly of the D.C. District Court, in which he finds the select committee properly authorized (see pages 30-32).  Of course, he’s probably some liberal activist judge who has it in for Trump.

*checks notes* 

Never mind, he’s a Trump appointee. 


That doesn't prove he isn't a liberal activist judge. Plenty of Trump appointees ended up being RINOs in disguise.


A member of the Federalist Society since 2009. Yes, that sounds like a liberal activist judge. 


The other option is he's a liar.

 
Hasn't been a good for a couple of weeks for Trump and company. Don't want to get too excited so I'm going to tune in to Hannity for as long as I can stand it. Going to see what garbage he is spewing to the Trump clan.

 
Okay guys.  Tentatively scheduled for 1PM Eastern today.  (Although their timing is fluid because of the sheer volume of information coming in now since Hutchinson's testimony.)  Thursday's is rescheduled already for that reason.  Today is linking Trump's paramilitary force to his inner circle.  

Asked last month whether the committee would provide witnesses who can describe actual conversations between extremist groups and Trump's inner circle, Chairman Bennie Thompson said, "Yes."

 
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Okay guys.  Tentatively scheduled for 1PM Eastern today.  (Although their timing is fluid because of the sheer volume of information coming in now since Hutchinson's testimony.)  Thursday's is rescheduled already for that reason.  Today is linking Trump's paramilitary force to his inner circle.  

Asked last month whether the committee would provide witnesses who can describe actual conversations between extremist groups and Trump's inner circle, Chairman Bennie Thompson said, "Yes."
:popcorn:

I hate that I'm going to have work meetings during this today

 
54/ Cheney says the Committee has seen a change in its prospective witnesses: they now understand that the Committee is making a serious case and that is changing how they deal with Committee. She says Trump supporters now concede basic facts but seek to blame Trump’s *advisers*.

55/CHENEY: "Trump is a 76 year-old man—not an impressionable child....no rational or sane man in his position could" ignore the information he had that he’d lost the election.

 
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54/ Cheney says the Committee has seen a change in its prospective witnesses: they now understand that the Committee is making a serious case and that is changing how they deal with Committee. She says Trump supporters now concede basic facts but seek to blame Trump’s *advisers*.

55/CHENEY: "Trump is a 76 year-old man—not an impressionable child....no rational or sane man in his position could" ignore the information he had that he’d lost the election.
56/ Cheney closes by saying that Trump and his team knew he lost. Trump and his team knew they had no evidence of fraud. But they nevertheless acted like he won and said they had evidence of it because they *knew* Trump supporters did not have the info *they* did to know better.

 
54/ Cheney says the Committee has seen a change in its prospective witnesses: they now understand that the Committee is making a serious case and that is changing how they deal with Committee. She says Trump supporters now concede basic facts but seek to blame Trump’s *advisers*.

55/CHENEY: "Trump is a 76 year-old man—not an impressionable child....no rational or sane man in his position could" ignore the information he had that he’d lost the election.
#FakeNews

#MAGA

 
56/ Cheney closes by saying that Trump and his team knew he lost. Trump and his team knew they had no evidence of fraud. But they nevertheless acted like he won and said they had evidence of it because they *knew* Trump supporters did not have the info *they* did to know better.


Guessing you've mentioned this repeatedly while I was gone over the last month, but is really something to see how obviously and passionately Cheney is pushing DOJ to bring criminal charges against Trump. Possible she thinks that's the only way to save the party.

 
54/ Cheney says the Committee has seen a change in its prospective witnesses: they now understand that the Committee is making a serious case and that is changing how they deal with Committee. She says Trump supporters now concede basic facts but seek to blame Trump’s *advisers*.

55/CHENEY: "Trump is a 76 year-old man—not an impressionable child....no rational or sane man in his position could" ignore the information he had that he’d lost the election.
Cool. I hope they do make a case.

The committee will have laid the blueprint on how to go after people who incite violence with words.

It's going to be super easy to go after Kamala Harris, Chuck Schumer, Maxine Waters and a whole slew of democrats for their role in the blm/antifa riots.  

 
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Cool. I hope they do make a case.

Then it's going to be super easy to go after Kamala Harris, Chuck Schumer, Maxine Waters and a whole slew of democrats for their role in the blm/antifa riots.  👍
bad take unless you link those people to organizing a violent event

 
66/ Murphy says Cipollone agreed that there was no evidence of systemic fraud in the 2020 election. We are now seeing the first video of Cipollone at depo (and he says this). In a second video, Cipollone testifies that he believed Trump should have conceded in mid-December 2020.

67/ Now we have depo video of former AG Bill Barr saying that December 14 was "the end of the matter" and should have "led inexorably to a new [Biden] administration." Cipollone testifies that Mark Meadows *also* told Trump things were over beginning in late November of 2020.

 
68/ Kayleigh McEnany depo, now, where she says that the end of Trump campaign litigation should have meant the end of the administration and attempts to preserve it.

Ivanka Trump depo now in which she agrees that December 14, 2020 should have been the end of her father’s efforts.

69/ Judd Deere, former White House press secretary, now says in recorded depo that he told Trump that after December 14 the Electoral College had spoken and "the. means for him to pursue litigation was probably closed." Trump, Deere says, disagreed.

 
Cool. I hope they do make a case.

The committee will have laid the blueprint on how to go after people who incite violence with words.

It's going to be super easy to go after Kamala Harris, Chuck Schumer, Maxine Waters and a whole slew of democrats for their role in the blm/antifa riots.  


Setting aside the obvious false equivalence ... none of the five potential criminal charges discussed here would be applicable to Harris, Schumer, Waters, or anyone else with respect to BLM protests. The reason these charges are all being brought in federal court and that everyone is waiting to see what DOJ will do is because they attacked the Capitol with the intent to stop or change the outcome of a congressional proceeding. Any charges related to the BLM protests would likely have to be brought under state law, other than charging the protestors themselves for damage to federal buildings. 

 
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Team Kraken brought a draft executive order to the Oval on December 18 which would have the *Pentagon* seize voting machines

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On the federal government seizing voting machines (Cipollone seems to indicate that this is what he told Team Kraken): "I don't even know why we have to tell you why that's a bad idea....that's not how we do things in America."

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"Even Rudy Giuliani's own legal team admitted that they didn't have any evidence of fraud sufficient to change the election results."

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Even Trump comms guy Jason Miller is now admitting via depo that only "very, very general evidence" of fraud was ever sent to any member of Congress from the campaign

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Even Giuliani said "we have lots of theories"—rather than evidence.

 

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