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***OFFICIAL 2006 WORLD SERIES Game Thread*** (1 Viewer)
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Bob Sacamano
Footballguy
Hey!!! [icon]'s here. Hi GB.
Bob Sacamano
Footballguy
woo-mother####in-hoo
UlyssesNorris
Faulknerian Idiot Man-Child.
Congrats Cardinals. Whatever you can say about the Tigers, the Cards have played very well in the Series.
edit: Man, it's going to suck having Weaver close us out.
edit: Man, it's going to suck having Weaver close us out.
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Bob Sacamano
Footballguy
C'mon Weaver!!!!!!!!!!!
SofaKings
Footballguy
GoCats or LHUCKS? I can't remember.Who had Cards in 5?
Spartans Rule
Footballguy
That's what us Tiger fans get to look forward to with Zumaya. Two walks to start the ninth inning of every close game until he pulls a Wohlers and is out of baseball before he turns 25.
UlyssesNorris
Faulknerian Idiot Man-Child.
My main hope at this point is that Zumaya isn't scarred Schiraldi-style after this mess.
MrPhoenix
Ron Paul Soldier
John Rocker or Mitch Williams would have also worked, too.
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
I can remember who didhttp://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...t&p=5748742GoCats or LHUCKS? I can't remember.Who had Cards in 5?
However, I did change it to 6 in this thread after seeing the pitching matchups
Spartans Rule
Footballguy
Amazing how many of them there are.
Bob Sacamano
Footballguy
That's what took Wainwright so long to get to the majors with the Cards. They left him in AAA to work out the walks. He and Tyler Johnson both had tremendous stuff but couldn't control it. Johnson has been forced to largely work it out throughout the course of the season in the majors this year, though, as they had no other lefty options.I guess what I'm saying is, there's lots of hope for him
ffldrew
Footballguy
Tigers must feel like they are in the Twilight Zone. The hardest part is after they have a rough outing they face another rain delay, you know they want to get back out there and play the next game right away. It looks like weather may be trouble again and if it is they will have to sit in the clubhouse stewing over bad plays in the field. I would expect the Tigers to be pressing at the plate and in the field. It will be tough to get over this loss. The layoff is hurting the Tigers and the tightness/drama of the Met series prepared the Cardinals to be relaxed in pressure situations.
One more game - Go CARDS!!!!!
One more game - Go CARDS!!!!!
SofaKings
Footballguy
Ya think?
Bob Sacamano
Footballguy
They're no Rick Ankiel
Spartans Rule
Footballguy
Yeah, he's 21 and throws 103. He'll be ok. I'm just upset.Would probably be better off directing my anger at the guy who can't hit first base from 40 feet at 50 MPH.
Bob Sacamano
Footballguy
That could be a great play right now. Weaver was shaky in game 2. Who knows who will pitch game 6 for the Cards (I'd guess Reyes, but Carp on 3 days rest on the road scares me a little) against Rogers, and then you've either got Carp on the road in game 7 or I assume Reyes in game 7. It's far from a lock.From a gambling perspective I wonder if the Tigers to win in 7 will be at an inflated price tomorrow. I may play that, if they can beat Weaver tomorrow this could get good.
Capella
Footballguy
Exactly. They burned Suppan tonight and if Game 7 is Sunday (and it gets there) that means Reyes has to pitch again. Soup can't go on two days and there's no other viable option. And as good as Weaver and Reyes have pitched this postseason, well...That could be a great play right now. Weaver was shaky in game 2. Who knows who will pitch game 6 for the Cards (I'd guess Reyes, but Carp on 3 days rest on the road scares me a little) against Rogers, and then you've either got Carp on the road in game 7 or I assume Reyes in game 7. It's far from a lock.From a gambling perspective I wonder if the Tigers to win in 7 will be at an inflated price tomorrow. I may play that, if they can beat Weaver tomorrow this could get good.
RnR
Footballguy
Verlander wasn't very sharp in Game 1 and he has already admitted to being less than 100% at this point in the season. I'm really surprised that the Tigers aren't going back to Rogers in Game 5 facing elimination.Exactly. They burned Suppan tonight and if Game 7 is Sunday (and it gets there) that means Reyes has to pitch again. Soup can't go on two days and there's no other viable option. And as good as Weaver and Reyes have pitched this postseason, well...That could be a great play right now. Weaver was shaky in game 2. Who knows who will pitch game 6 for the Cards (I'd guess Reyes, but Carp on 3 days rest on the road scares me a little) against Rogers, and then you've either got Carp on the road in game 7 or I assume Reyes in game 7. It's far from a lock.From a gambling perspective I wonder if the Tigers to win in 7 will be at an inflated price tomorrow. I may play that, if they can beat Weaver tomorrow this could get good.
ffldrew
Footballguy
They may have to pray for heavy rain tomorrow and a postponement - if so I think you see RogersVerlander wasn't very sharp in Game 1 and he has already admitted to being less than 100% at this point in the season. I'm really surprised that the Tigers aren't going back to Rogers in Game 5 facing elimination.Exactly. They burned Suppan tonight and if Game 7 is Sunday (and it gets there) that means Reyes has to pitch again. Soup can't go on two days and there's no other viable option. And as good as Weaver and Reyes have pitched this postseason, well...That could be a great play right now. Weaver was shaky in game 2. Who knows who will pitch game 6 for the Cards (I'd guess Reyes, but Carp on 3 days rest on the road scares me a little) against Rogers, and then you've either got Carp on the road in game 7 or I assume Reyes in game 7. It's far from a lock.From a gambling perspective I wonder if the Tigers to win in 7 will be at an inflated price tomorrow. I may play that, if they can beat Weaver tomorrow this could get good.
RnR
Footballguy
Not sure why that would matter. Rogers pitched on Sunday, giving him a normal 4 days rest. (Just like Weaver)They may have to pray for heavy rain tomorrow and a postponement - if so I think you see RogersVerlander wasn't very sharp in Game 1 and he has already admitted to being less than 100% at this point in the season. I'm really surprised that the Tigers aren't going back to Rogers in Game 5 facing elimination.Exactly. They burned Suppan tonight and if Game 7 is Sunday (and it gets there) that means Reyes has to pitch again. Soup can't go on two days and there's no other viable option. And as good as Weaver and Reyes have pitched this postseason, well...That could be a great play right now. Weaver was shaky in game 2. Who knows who will pitch game 6 for the Cards (I'd guess Reyes, but Carp on 3 days rest on the road scares me a little) against Rogers, and then you've either got Carp on the road in game 7 or I assume Reyes in game 7. It's far from a lock.From a gambling perspective I wonder if the Tigers to win in 7 will be at an inflated price tomorrow. I may play that, if they can beat Weaver tomorrow this could get good.
Spartans Rule
Footballguy
I would not expect Rogers in Game 5.They'll have to win three anyway and they aren't going to squeeze two starts out of Rogers. They planned the rotation to have him pitch twice at Comerica and it will stay that way.Verlander wasn't very sharp in Game 1 and he has already admitted to being less than 100% at this point in the season. I'm really surprised that the Tigers aren't going back to Rogers in Game 5 facing elimination.Exactly. They burned Suppan tonight and if Game 7 is Sunday (and it gets there) that means Reyes has to pitch again. Soup can't go on two days and there's no other viable option. And as good as Weaver and Reyes have pitched this postseason, well...That could be a great play right now. Weaver was shaky in game 2. Who knows who will pitch game 6 for the Cards (I'd guess Reyes, but Carp on 3 days rest on the road scares me a little) against Rogers, and then you've either got Carp on the road in game 7 or I assume Reyes in game 7. It's far from a lock.From a gambling perspective I wonder if the Tigers to win in 7 will be at an inflated price tomorrow. I may play that, if they can beat Weaver tomorrow this could get good.
I'm surprised that Bonderman wasn't higher in the rotation to begin with. IMO he's their second best option right now.
ffldrew
Footballguy
I'm not sure Suppan was "burned" (except when Scooter made his appearance) - That pitch Casey hit for the HR was sick - it was below the knee. 3 runs is not bad in this day and age of pitching.Exactly. They burned Suppan tonight and if Game 7 is Sunday (and it gets there) that means Reyes has to pitch again. Soup can't go on two days and there's no other viable option. And as good as Weaver and Reyes have pitched this postseason, well...That could be a great play right now. Weaver was shaky in game 2. Who knows who will pitch game 6 for the Cards (I'd guess Reyes, but Carp on 3 days rest on the road scares me a little) against Rogers, and then you've either got Carp on the road in game 7 or I assume Reyes in game 7. It's far from a lock.From a gambling perspective I wonder if the Tigers to win in 7 will be at an inflated price tomorrow. I may play that, if they can beat Weaver tomorrow this could get good.
Capella
Footballguy
Huh? I meant burned, as in used.I'm not sure Suppan was "burned" (except when Scooter made his appearance) - That pitch Casey hit for the HR was sick - it was below the knee. 3 runs is not bad in this day and age of pitching.Exactly. They burned Suppan tonight and if Game 7 is Sunday (and it gets there) that means Reyes has to pitch again. Soup can't go on two days and there's no other viable option. And as good as Weaver and Reyes have pitched this postseason, well...That could be a great play right now. Weaver was shaky in game 2. Who knows who will pitch game 6 for the Cards (I'd guess Reyes, but Carp on 3 days rest on the road scares me a little) against Rogers, and then you've either got Carp on the road in game 7 or I assume Reyes in game 7. It's far from a lock.From a gambling perspective I wonder if the Tigers to win in 7 will be at an inflated price tomorrow. I may play that, if they can beat Weaver tomorrow this could get good.
RnR
Footballguy
I guess that's always the debate when discussing postseason pitching decisions when you are behind in a series. I've always been of the opinion that you take your best shot at each game. Sure, they'll need to win all 3 anyway, but Rogers is your best shot to win Game 5. You've gotta win game 5 before you win games 6 or 7. I'd make sure of a game 5 win before I worried about "tomorrow", because without a win in game 5 there is no "tomorrow."
Spartans Rule
Footballguy
I believe he meant burned as in used up. Suppan won't pitch again this series.I'm not sure Suppan was "burned" (except when Scooter made his appearance) - That pitch Casey hit for the HR was sick - it was below the knee. 3 runs is not bad in this day and age of pitching.Exactly. They burned Suppan tonight and if Game 7 is Sunday (and it gets there) that means Reyes has to pitch again. Soup can't go on two days and there's no other viable option. And as good as Weaver and Reyes have pitched this postseason, well...That could be a great play right now. Weaver was shaky in game 2. Who knows who will pitch game 6 for the Cards (I'd guess Reyes, but Carp on 3 days rest on the road scares me a little) against Rogers, and then you've either got Carp on the road in game 7 or I assume Reyes in game 7. It's far from a lock.From a gambling perspective I wonder if the Tigers to win in 7 will be at an inflated price tomorrow. I may play that, if they can beat Weaver tomorrow this could get good.
ffldrew
Footballguy
Gotcha - sorry about that.Huh? I meant burned, as in used.I'm not sure Suppan was "burned" (except when Scooter made his appearance) - That pitch Casey hit for the HR was sick - it was below the knee. 3 runs is not bad in this day and age of pitching.Exactly. They burned Suppan tonight and if Game 7 is Sunday (and it gets there) that means Reyes has to pitch again. Soup can't go on two days and there's no other viable option. And as good as Weaver and Reyes have pitched this postseason, well...That could be a great play right now. Weaver was shaky in game 2. Who knows who will pitch game 6 for the Cards (I'd guess Reyes, but Carp on 3 days rest on the road scares me a little) against Rogers, and then you've either got Carp on the road in game 7 or I assume Reyes in game 7. It's far from a lock.From a gambling perspective I wonder if the Tigers to win in 7 will be at an inflated price tomorrow. I may play that, if they can beat Weaver tomorrow this could get good.
Mr. Know-It-All
Footballguy
Leyland said point blank that he is not going to throw Rogers in this environment. Rogers (despite the fact he has thrown incredibly well in the post season) is a mental midget and he would absolutely crumble in St Louis when the crowd got on him.
That and all local press would be lined up for blocks for a chance at a lawsuit when he did lose it.
That and all local press would be lined up for blocks for a chance at a lawsuit when he did lose it.
Gigantomachia
Footballguy
O-E-OSweet, I like guarantees.
Tough As Nails
Glave Master
:nervous:
Bob Sacamano
Footballguy
Yeah, that vocal and unforgiving Cardinals fanbase has been known to drive to tears even the most hardened girl scout standing outside the stadium hawking cookies."Hey Kenny, you've got some dirt on your hands. You might want to go wash it off. Try Lava. That stuff really works. YWIA."Brutal.
Tough As Nails
Glave Master
I find it really fascinating that Kenny Rogers has suddenly become one of the top clutch pitchers in the game. Ask a Tigers fan how many pitchers in all of baseball they would rather have on the mound for them right now. I'll bet the answer is less than 5.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Thank you, David Eckstein, for finally waking up. It couldn't have come at a better time.
That was a great, yet bizarre game. When the Cards fell behind 3-0, I had a bad feeling, but they slowly chipped away, and once they took the lead in the 7th, I knew they would win, even after the Tigers tied it back up in the 8th.
You have to wonder what losing a game like that did to the mental state of the Tigers. Their previously dormant bats woke up, and they still lost.
Can the Cardinals close it out tonight (assuming they play)? I, and other Cardinals fans, can only hope.
That was a great, yet bizarre game. When the Cards fell behind 3-0, I had a bad feeling, but they slowly chipped away, and once they took the lead in the 7th, I knew they would win, even after the Tigers tied it back up in the 8th.
You have to wonder what losing a game like that did to the mental state of the Tigers. Their previously dormant bats woke up, and they still lost.
Can the Cardinals close it out tonight (assuming they play)? I, and other Cardinals fans, can only hope.
whoknew
Footballguy
Good for him, for you need a little luck in baseball. But that was the single luckiest 4-5 I've ever seen.
Sooner or later you are going to have to recognize that the Cards a good team.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Ask me if I care. The Cardinals are one win away from a World Series championship. I couldn't care less how lucky they have been.
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Capella
Footballguy
Tigers are a +300 to win it all. Don't think that's good enough for me to jump on board with. 
Do Cards fans look at tonight as a must-win? If you lose tonight, you get Rogers in game 6, who has apparently channeled the ghost of 1986 Mike Scott or something. I remember how desperate the Mets were to win game 6 of the 86 NLCS, as Scott was going in 7 and that sucker was over if it got there -- but then the Cards do at least have a game 7 remaining, with possibly Carpenter pitching that game. Still, it would be in Detroit and the momentum would have swung at that point.
Just talking out loud.
Do Cards fans look at tonight as a must-win? If you lose tonight, you get Rogers in game 6, who has apparently channeled the ghost of 1986 Mike Scott or something. I remember how desperate the Mets were to win game 6 of the 86 NLCS, as Scott was going in 7 and that sucker was over if it got there -- but then the Cards do at least have a game 7 remaining, with possibly Carpenter pitching that game. Still, it would be in Detroit and the momentum would have swung at that point.
Just talking out loud.
whoknew
Footballguy
No reason you should care. I'm just making an observation.Ask me if I care. The Cardinals are one win away from a World Series championship. I couldn't care less how lucky they have been.
