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Another tough loss tonight, and another loss chalked up to the bullpen. The O's are now 6-15 in one run games this year.
Guthrie gets his 5th straight ND after a quality start.
Guthrie gets his 5th straight ND after a quality start.
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Bump for Yankee series. Might regret this on Thursday.
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Big Win! Guthrie with ANOTHER quality start.
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Just got back from the game tonight, had 4th row behind home plate!!! Yankee fans were not representing as much as I thought they would while Clemens was on the mound. O's fans were able to stop every attempt at a Yankee chant from these guys and had them leaving for the turnpike(or where ever their band wagon was parked) around the 7th inning.
Going for the sweep tomorrow and are 5-1 against the Yanks this year.
ETA:
Here is a picture of where I was sitting with my camera phone. Best seat I've ever had to a baseball game.
http://www1.snapfish.com/slideshow/AlbumID...108/t_=27051108
Going for the sweep tomorrow and are 5-1 against the Yanks this year.
ETA:
Here is a picture of where I was sitting with my camera phone. Best seat I've ever had to a baseball game.
http://www1.snapfish.com/slideshow/AlbumID...108/t_=27051108
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Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
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Of course over the last ten years there have been plenty of moments for homer optimism to only have everything crumble apart the next week, but the Orioles pitching staff certainly seems to be coming together the past few weeks.
So I guess it is time for the 12 run first innings to appear.
So I guess it is time for the 12 run first innings to appear.
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Doyne for MVP!!!
Great win tonight. I was having flashbacks from the Boston game that sent this season into a downward spiral.
Bottomfeeder, good to have you checking in. I quit bumping the thread b/c I felt like I was talking to myself for too long.
Great win tonight. I was having flashbacks from the Boston game that sent this season into a downward spiral.
Bottomfeeder, good to have you checking in. I quit bumping the thread b/c I felt like I was talking to myself for too long.
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Spoiler Alert. O's are playing a significant role in the outcome of the AL East. On ESPN News this morning they had the Orioles listed on the screen for AL Wild Card race. Yes, 7th place and 11.5 back, but still on the screen.
OK, AI, put down the gun and step back away from the window. YOu are about to go certifiably crazy here.
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What's the deal with Bedard and his contract situation? I heard on the radio that the O's had 2 weeks to sign him before something, arbitration maybe? I don't understand all the rules around arbitration and why he needs to be signed in August, but the O's need to throw the bank at this guy and get him locked up LONG TERM. He's a free agent after 2009 and there seems to still be time to try and sign him.
Oh, and the O's just beat the Blue Jays.
Good article on Bedard: http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2978076
Much of what makes Erik Bedard so talented is also what enables him to successfully shield himself from the public eye. The Orioles' ace is consistently stubborn, whether it's on the field, in the clubhouse or with the media. He's also one of the best pitchers in baseball you know the least about. If it's up to him, the O's left-hander wants to keep it that way.
"I don't want to reveal anything about myself," says Bedard, who's revered by teammates. "If you want a quote, don't come to me. I won't give it to you. Anything baseballwise, that's fine. Other than that, don't ask me any other questions. I don't want my life to be out there."
"Baseballwise" is the reason why anyone cares. Bedard is on an incredible streak. He hasn't lost in 12 starts, dating to June 15, a span in which he has a 2.19 ERA. He leads the league with 207 strikeouts -- 33 more than second-place Johan Santana -- but has just 12 wins. Devil Rays outfielder Carl Crawford recently told reporters that Bedard's stuff is so good, he uses just two pitches to get him out.
Pitching coach Leo Mazzone says Bedard throws a "four-way fastball," meaning he throws a power fastball, a sinking fastball, a cut fastball and what Mazzone calls a comebacker. Bedard has two variations of a curveball, and he's working on improving his changeup. But it's his ability to throw two pitches six different ways that has hitters batting a league-low .210 against him this year. And since June 15, he's struck out 104 batters while allowing just 49 hits.
"He's been pretty much been doing that to the entire league," Derek Jeter told reporters after another dominant outing by Bedard on Wednesday, holding the Yankees scoreless through seven innings for a no-decision.
Not that fans will be hearing much about, well, any of it. Bedard insists his formal interaction with the media -- which is horrible at best, and nonexistent at worst -- will never change, much to the chagrin of team officials, who have begged him to be more available.
"It's not acceptable" to avoid the media, Orioles vice president of baseball operations Jim Duquette says, "but for some reason he thinks it is."
Erik Bedard has developed into one of the most dominating pitchers in the major leagues.
Bedard is at times rude, standoffish and disinterested, and perversely takes pride in his attitude. "Stupid question, next," is a frequent answer from the 28-year-old. On average, he'll take fewer than a dozen questions after he pitches, and then usually walks away without a word, or just announces that the interview is over. When Bedard pitched a two-hit shutout and struck out 15 Rangers on July 7, according to the Washington Post, his postgame session with reporters lasted just 2 minutes and 11 seconds, and he answered 12 questions -- a rarity for a player following such a stellar outing.
That brusqueness ends, however, once reporters put down their notebooks or turn off the red light. Unlike Red Sox outfielder Manny Ramirez, whose abstention from the media is nearly unmatched, Bedard will gladly engage in conversation as long as it's not for posterity. He suddenly morphs into the self-described country boy he is. The one from small-town Lambert, just outside Ottawa, who throws in his uncle's freezing chicken barn during the winter and once said he'd probably be an elevator mechanic if baseball didn't pan out.
His dominance this season is not aiding in his quest for anonymity. Already, players around the league and in his clubhouse say he's a contender for the Cy Young Award. Bedard quickly dismisses such talk.
"Cy Young? I'm not even close to Cy Young," he says. "How about [Josh] Beckett with 15 wins and I got 12. … If I finish with 12 wins and a 2.50 ERA, you think I'm going to win the Cy Young? Probably not."
Bedard says he doesn't care and thinks goals are pointless, because they only set you up for disappointment. But the recognition of his lack of wins hints at some sort of awareness, desire even. Or maybe it doesn't. With Bedard, it's tough to tell.
"He's very, very private," O's manager Dave Trembley says. "He's not a [bad] guy. He just doesn't like people asking him obvious, stupid questions."
What has made Bedard so successful, Mazzone says, is his talent and consistency. He has made every single start the last two seasons. Bedard had reconstructive elbow surgery five years ago, and takes pride in his ability to do his job. In fact, Bedard says that's part of the reason he dislikes the press: He just wants to do his job and be left alone.
"He doesn't have time for meaningless conversation," Mazzone says, then laughs. "He doesn't like to play many games. He can weed out who he thinks can help him a little. He can weed out the ones who he thinks are full of it."
Trust is important, and it seems to affect the way Bedard interacts with teammates and coaches, in particular. It took Mazzone until midway last season to finally feel as though he and Bedard had a rapport. Prior to that, Bedard's stubbornness would take over, and those he did not trust became white noise.
His teammates, who would often answer for him when he blew off reporters, seem to find humor in Bedard's attitude. Some even admire it. One veteran player says it's because Bedard acts the same: He avoids the media when he pitches well, and also when he doesn't.
"He's consistent," the player says. "That's what matters."
Whether that will play in another city is difficult to know. Bedard will be a free agent after the 2009 season, and the Orioles have failed to sign their rising star to a long-term contract. Asked whether he would consider playing in New York, with one of the toughest and biggest media corps, Bedard takes a long pause before answering.
"I don't know," he says.
Why?
"I don't know how long I would last [in New York]," he says, with a sheepish smile. "I would probably be the same, and I don't know if the media would embrace me or reject me. … Maybe I'll need a clause in my contract saying I won't have to talk to them.
"Just kidding."
Or is he? That's for Bedard to know, and for nobody to find out.
Oh, and the O's just beat the Blue Jays.
Good article on Bedard: http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2978076
Much of what makes Erik Bedard so talented is also what enables him to successfully shield himself from the public eye. The Orioles' ace is consistently stubborn, whether it's on the field, in the clubhouse or with the media. He's also one of the best pitchers in baseball you know the least about. If it's up to him, the O's left-hander wants to keep it that way.
"I don't want to reveal anything about myself," says Bedard, who's revered by teammates. "If you want a quote, don't come to me. I won't give it to you. Anything baseballwise, that's fine. Other than that, don't ask me any other questions. I don't want my life to be out there."
"Baseballwise" is the reason why anyone cares. Bedard is on an incredible streak. He hasn't lost in 12 starts, dating to June 15, a span in which he has a 2.19 ERA. He leads the league with 207 strikeouts -- 33 more than second-place Johan Santana -- but has just 12 wins. Devil Rays outfielder Carl Crawford recently told reporters that Bedard's stuff is so good, he uses just two pitches to get him out.
Pitching coach Leo Mazzone says Bedard throws a "four-way fastball," meaning he throws a power fastball, a sinking fastball, a cut fastball and what Mazzone calls a comebacker. Bedard has two variations of a curveball, and he's working on improving his changeup. But it's his ability to throw two pitches six different ways that has hitters batting a league-low .210 against him this year. And since June 15, he's struck out 104 batters while allowing just 49 hits.
"He's been pretty much been doing that to the entire league," Derek Jeter told reporters after another dominant outing by Bedard on Wednesday, holding the Yankees scoreless through seven innings for a no-decision.
Not that fans will be hearing much about, well, any of it. Bedard insists his formal interaction with the media -- which is horrible at best, and nonexistent at worst -- will never change, much to the chagrin of team officials, who have begged him to be more available.
"It's not acceptable" to avoid the media, Orioles vice president of baseball operations Jim Duquette says, "but for some reason he thinks it is."
Erik Bedard has developed into one of the most dominating pitchers in the major leagues.
Bedard is at times rude, standoffish and disinterested, and perversely takes pride in his attitude. "Stupid question, next," is a frequent answer from the 28-year-old. On average, he'll take fewer than a dozen questions after he pitches, and then usually walks away without a word, or just announces that the interview is over. When Bedard pitched a two-hit shutout and struck out 15 Rangers on July 7, according to the Washington Post, his postgame session with reporters lasted just 2 minutes and 11 seconds, and he answered 12 questions -- a rarity for a player following such a stellar outing.
That brusqueness ends, however, once reporters put down their notebooks or turn off the red light. Unlike Red Sox outfielder Manny Ramirez, whose abstention from the media is nearly unmatched, Bedard will gladly engage in conversation as long as it's not for posterity. He suddenly morphs into the self-described country boy he is. The one from small-town Lambert, just outside Ottawa, who throws in his uncle's freezing chicken barn during the winter and once said he'd probably be an elevator mechanic if baseball didn't pan out.
His dominance this season is not aiding in his quest for anonymity. Already, players around the league and in his clubhouse say he's a contender for the Cy Young Award. Bedard quickly dismisses such talk.
"Cy Young? I'm not even close to Cy Young," he says. "How about [Josh] Beckett with 15 wins and I got 12. … If I finish with 12 wins and a 2.50 ERA, you think I'm going to win the Cy Young? Probably not."
Bedard says he doesn't care and thinks goals are pointless, because they only set you up for disappointment. But the recognition of his lack of wins hints at some sort of awareness, desire even. Or maybe it doesn't. With Bedard, it's tough to tell.
"He's very, very private," O's manager Dave Trembley says. "He's not a [bad] guy. He just doesn't like people asking him obvious, stupid questions."
What has made Bedard so successful, Mazzone says, is his talent and consistency. He has made every single start the last two seasons. Bedard had reconstructive elbow surgery five years ago, and takes pride in his ability to do his job. In fact, Bedard says that's part of the reason he dislikes the press: He just wants to do his job and be left alone.
"He doesn't have time for meaningless conversation," Mazzone says, then laughs. "He doesn't like to play many games. He can weed out who he thinks can help him a little. He can weed out the ones who he thinks are full of it."
Trust is important, and it seems to affect the way Bedard interacts with teammates and coaches, in particular. It took Mazzone until midway last season to finally feel as though he and Bedard had a rapport. Prior to that, Bedard's stubbornness would take over, and those he did not trust became white noise.
His teammates, who would often answer for him when he blew off reporters, seem to find humor in Bedard's attitude. Some even admire it. One veteran player says it's because Bedard acts the same: He avoids the media when he pitches well, and also when he doesn't.
"He's consistent," the player says. "That's what matters."
Whether that will play in another city is difficult to know. Bedard will be a free agent after the 2009 season, and the Orioles have failed to sign their rising star to a long-term contract. Asked whether he would consider playing in New York, with one of the toughest and biggest media corps, Bedard takes a long pause before answering.
"I don't know," he says.
Why?
"I don't know how long I would last [in New York]," he says, with a sheepish smile. "I would probably be the same, and I don't know if the media would embrace me or reject me. … Maybe I'll need a clause in my contract saying I won't have to talk to them.
"Just kidding."
Or is he? That's for Bedard to know, and for nobody to find out.
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Did the Orioles make a deal with the devil way back when and have been paying back that debt one Oriole fan soul at a time?
Any time there is just a little hope that maybe, just maybe things are about to get better you get "sucker punched in the groin" with news like Chris Ray's yesterday. These cruel twists of fates are really getting old.
Any time there is just a little hope that maybe, just maybe things are about to get better you get "sucker punched in the groin" with news like Chris Ray's yesterday. These cruel twists of fates are really getting old.
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I'm not ready to call the news about Ray all that bad. So he's out for the season(weren't going anywhere anyway and have been winning without him) and after the surgery has the potential to come back stronger. Bedard had Tommy John and turned out ok...
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Out next year too???
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Wild Bill Hagy - RIP
I remember in the late 70's setting in the left field bleachers just waiting for him to get up across the field and lead the O-R-I-O-L-E-S cheer.
I remember in the late 70's setting in the left field bleachers just waiting for him to get up across the field and lead the O-R-I-O-L-E-S cheer.
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Those were some of my first ever baseball games. This one's for you:
O
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ORIOLES!!!!
RIP Bill.
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A more complete link on Wild Bill including last nights MASN tribute.
Someone with writing skills needs to attack this Wikipedia:Requested articles/sports.
Someone with writing skills needs to attack this Wikipedia:Requested articles/sports.
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Looks like Trembley is staying on as the manager for next year. Guy's done a heck of a job and I'm glad to see him rewarded.
I was at the game last night and they showed a Wild Bill tribute on the big screen. No moment of silence, but me and the other 84 fans gave an ovation.
I was at the game last night and they showed a Wild Bill tribute on the big screen. No moment of silence, but me and the other 84 fans gave an ovation.
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PAY BEDARD WHATEVER HE WANTS
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Well, two, if you count the second game of the doubleheader.
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Yeah, I posted that in between games.Well, two, if you count the second game of the doubleheader.
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OK, I was 6 weeks early with this.
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At least these past few weeks have been historic.
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A series win!
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O's hire Jauss as bench coach
He is fourth addition to Trembley's coaching staff since August
By a Baltimoresun.com staff reporter
1:47 PM EST, November 6, 2007
The Orioles today announced the hiring of Dave Jauss as bench coach for the 2008 season.
Jauss spent the past two seasons as the Los Angeles Dodgers' bench coach under manager Grady Little, who resigned last week and was replaced by former New York Yankees manager Joe Torre.
Jauss, 50, is the fourth addition to manager Dave Trembley's coaching staff since August, joining pitching coach Rick Kranitz, first base coach John Shelby and bullpen coach Alan Dunn. Hitting coach Terry Crowley and third base coach Juan Samuel are the only coaches from last season's Opening Day staff that will return in the same capacity under Trembley, who started last season as the team's bullpen coach and was promoted to manager when Sam Perlozzo was fired.
And the schedule for 2008 has been released. O's open at home Mar 31st against TB.
He is fourth addition to Trembley's coaching staff since August
By a Baltimoresun.com staff reporter
1:47 PM EST, November 6, 2007
The Orioles today announced the hiring of Dave Jauss as bench coach for the 2008 season.
Jauss spent the past two seasons as the Los Angeles Dodgers' bench coach under manager Grady Little, who resigned last week and was replaced by former New York Yankees manager Joe Torre.
Jauss, 50, is the fourth addition to manager Dave Trembley's coaching staff since August, joining pitching coach Rick Kranitz, first base coach John Shelby and bullpen coach Alan Dunn. Hitting coach Terry Crowley and third base coach Juan Samuel are the only coaches from last season's Opening Day staff that will return in the same capacity under Trembley, who started last season as the team's bullpen coach and was promoted to manager when Sam Perlozzo was fired.
And the schedule for 2008 has been released. O's open at home Mar 31st against TB.
They should trade him to Philly
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This post gave me de ja vu.Should have known it wasn't going to be anything positive that got the Orioles thread bumped. #### Huff.
They should trade him to Philly
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he is a POS.. grossly underperform all year then go bash the city, smooth move. Too bad MLB teams can't pull the plug on contracts NFL style.
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You're telling me... :cough:Albert Belle:cough:
I thought he would have hit 40Hrs in that park...has anyone declined more rapidly in recent years?
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