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***Official 2007 CLEVELAND INDIANS Thread*** (1 Viewer)

The Man With No Name said:
Heard someone on ESPN a while ago (sounded like Jeremy Schaap) say that if the Indians are out of contention , they will trade C.C. Sabathia. That makes no sense to me. :excited:
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I doubt this very much. But we'll be in contention this year, so it doesn't matter.Maybe he meant in '08 since CC is signed until after that season.
 
C.C. now 4-0. Nice to see him settle down after the 3 HRs in the 1st. Only gave up 1 hit after that.Jhonny starting to swing the bat. :banned:

Although nothing has been finalized, Indians union rep Casey Blake confirmed that one of the four home games postponed by snow against Seattle last month will be made up when Cleveland visits Safeco Field from Sept. 25-27.
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Total :banned: . MLB makes the ####ty schedule and Indians lose another home game. :thumbup:
 
MLB may rule on Tribe's protest today

Wednesday, May 02, 2007

Paul Hoynes

Cleveland Plain Dealer

Major League Baseball is expected to make a ruling today on the Indians' protest of Saturday's 7-4 loss to Baltimore at Jacobs Field.

The Indians filed a protest with Jimmie Lee Solomon, MLB's executive vice president of baseball operations, on Sunday. MLB has five days to make a ruling.

"I'm hopeful we can get a positive result," said manager Eric Wedge.

The play in question came in the third inning. Ramon Hernandez, with Baltimore leading, 2-1, sent a liner to center with Nick Markakis on third and Miguel Tejada on first with one.

Grady Sizemore made a diving catch and threw to Ryan Garko at first, who stepped on the bag to complete an inning-ending double play. Before Tejada was out, Markakis scored.

The run should have counted, but plate umpire Marvin Hudson waved it off. The umpires finally gave the Orioles the run in the bottom of the sixth, changing the score from 2-2 to 3-2.

Wedge protested the game as soon as crew chief Ed Montague informed the official scorer to give Baltimore another run. Wedge had to make the protest before the next pitch, which is the basis of the Indians' protest.

The Indians contend the Orioles had to address Hudson's blown call before the next pitch. When they didn't, the Indians believe umpires shouldn't have been able to add the run in the sixth.

They believe the fact that the umpires waited until the sixth inning to change the call gives the umpires leeway to change any call at any time of a game.

"I think that's something they have to consider," said Wedge.

If the Indians' protest is upheld, and the game is resumed, it probably would be played this weekend in Baltimore where the Indians open a four-game series.
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wadegarrett said:
C.C. now 4-0. Nice to see him settle down after the 3 HRs in the 1st. Only gave up 1 hit after that.Jhonny starting to swing the bat. :tinfoilhat:

Although nothing has been finalized, Indians union rep Casey Blake confirmed that one of the four home games postponed by snow against Seattle last month will be made up when Cleveland visits Safeco Field from Sept. 25-27.
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Total :bs: . MLB makes the ####ty schedule and Indians lose another home game. :fishing:
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From a fans perspective, it sucks. But I gotta believe Dolan is gonna rake more $$ this way. MLB will compensate him to make sure of it. Hopefully fans see return on that money.
 
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MLB denies Indians protest

Posted by Paul Hoynes

May 02, 2007 13:38PM

Major League Baseball today denied the Indians protest of Saturday's game against Baltimore at Jacobs Field.

The Indians protested the game in the bottom of the sixth inning after crew chief Ed Montague ordered the official scorer to give Baltimore another run stemming from a missed call by plate umpire Marvin Hudson in the third inning. Montague's ruling changed the score from 2-2 to 3-2 in Baltimore's favor.

The Orioles won the game, 7-4.

Bob DuPuy, MLB's president and chief operating officer, denied the Indians protest.

It's believed DuPuy based his decision on the umpires ultimately making the right call. It's also believed the umpires involved were disciplined by MLB.

In his report of the incident, Montague reportedly stated he was trying to get the run added to the scoreboard between innings after the missed call, but questions arose about who controls the scoreboard - the umpires or the home team.

Montague finally got the score changed by calling the pressbox while the Indians were batting in the sixth.
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The Man With No Name said:
Another win. Stat wise, they shouldn't have won so many games. Middle of the mlb pack in batting avg. and E.R.A.
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Winning the games they've always lost in the past couple years. They always lost the one-run games and the extra inning games. 7-2 in one-run games so far this year. Can't remember how many extra inning games they've had so far but they won one in MN and last night's. :goodposting:
 
Hello, Fausto Carmona. Goodbye, Jake Westbrook and way to go, Travis Hafner. Westbrook left Wednesday night's game in the second inning with a strained left abdominal injury that will probably put him on the disabled list. Westbrook's misfortune means good news for Carmona, who was optioned to Class AAA Buffalo on Tuesday because there was no spot for him in the rotation.
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Nice to plug Carmona right back in.
 
wadegarrett said:
The Man With No Name said:
Another win. Stat wise, they shouldn't have won so many games. Middle of the mlb pack in batting avg. and E.R.A.
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Winning the games they've always lost in the past couple years. They always lost the one-run games and the extra inning games. 7-2 in one-run games so far this year. Can't remember how many extra inning games they've had so far but they won one in MN and last night's. :blackdot:
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3-1 in extras this year, iirc.
 
Tribe beats odds in strange month

Thursday, May 03, 2007

Bud Shaw

Cleveland Plain Dealer

Winning a game on Travis Hafner's ground-ball double to third base against Toronto's shifted infield - with every bullpen pitcher used and only Tom Mastny still standing - was almost a predictable ending to the first full month of the season.

For their next trick, maybe they'll win on a night when their left-handers pull right abdominal muscles and their right-handers pull left obliques in a game played under protest in a late spring snowstorm.

Obviously, it's time to increase the degree of difficulty.

The April 2-May 2 segment of the schedule was a baseball obstacle course that apparently didn't challenge them enough.

They sped through April the way they haven't since 1999. If C.C. Sabathia and others believe the Indians were victims of their own egos in 2006, that has been ruled out this year. It's difficult to think you're bulletproof when you have reason to believe everybody is out to get you.

They're 16-8 after Wednesday's 11-inning, 7-6 win that became an uphill climb as early as the second inning. The win kept them in first place while also providing reason to keep their heads on a swivel for what might happen next.

They officially lost their protest of Saturday's game against Baltimore along with the pitcher they sent out to face Toronto.

Jake Westbrook felt tightness in his left abdominal and departed in the second inning, one night before Cliff Lee's scheduled return from the right abdominal strain suffered in spring training.

"They fought some kind of hard," manager Eric Wedge said of his team. "Obviously losing Jake was a blow."

If Fausto Carmona - sent to Buffalo to make room for Lee in the rotation - is not one of the free numbers on Mark Shapiro's My Circle plan, it's a temporary oversight that should be corrected sometime today.

Having Carmona and Adam Miller riding lead in the cavalry may seem like a waste of young talent, but October is still five long months away.

There's enough starting pitching and hitting in the organization to hold up. The bullpen is better. They should contend if they can catch the ball and don't get ahead of themselves again.

"This team is older, more mature," said Sabathia, off to a 4-0 start. "After coming so close in '05 and basically flopping last year, we have a team that has learned from its mistakes."

The Indians have shown resiliency. It's not only attitude but better pieces that made this April an improvement. Before Wednesday, the bullpen had the fourth lowest ERA (3.54) in the AL. The bullpen's ERA after 23 games a year ago was more than two runs higher.

Wedge used every pitcher in the bullpen Wednesday. Down to Mastny, who pitched the 11th, Wedge started David Dellucci from first in the bottom half of the inning. Hafner slapped a low outside pitch to third on a 3-2 count and the Indians invented another victory.

"We never feel like we're out of it," Dellucci said.

The Indians have won 10 of 12 despite three of their hitters batting under .265 -Jhonny Peralta, Grady Sizemore, Casey Blake and Josh Barfield.

"The most encouraging thing about April is that we weren't playing our best baseball," Sabathia said.

If the strangest baseball of the season isn't behind them, brace yourself.
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Tecumseh said:
wadegarrett said:
The Man With No Name said:
Another win. Stat wise, they shouldn't have won so many games. Middle of the mlb pack in batting avg. and E.R.A.
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Winning the games they've always lost in the past couple years. They always lost the one-run games and the extra inning games. 7-2 in one-run games so far this year. Can't remember how many extra inning games they've had so far but they won one in MN and last night's. :goodposting:
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3-1 in extras this year, iirc.
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I don't think they've lost yet in extras.
 
It's crazy how Westy gets hurt just as Lee comes back and Carmona will get called back up (most likely).

Usually, Wedge and Shapiro wait until the last second to make moves. They always say things usually work themselves out. How true this might be again.

 
Bobcat10 said:
It's crazy how Westy gets hurt just as Lee comes back and Carmona will get called back up (most likely). Usually, Wedge and Shapiro wait until the last second to make moves. They always say things usually work themselves out. How true this might be again.
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Heading down tonight to check out Lee's first start. :thumbup:
 
Bring home another winner!

Looks like Ben Fransico might stick for a little while and Choo is going back down. He'll replace Blake as the RH OF since Casey is manning third.

 
Wade, was that you running on the field during the near brawl?

Gotta love Dellucci getting in Phillips' face. Phillips had no reason to say anything to Barfield and it didn't look like Phillips was saying anything complimentary. Stiff was probably mad he lost his glasses or whatever they are.

 
Bobcat10 said:
Wade, was that you running on the field during the near brawl?Gotta love Dellucci getting in Phillips' face. Phillips had no reason to say anything to Barfield and it didn't look like Phillips was saying anything complimentary. Stiff was probably mad he lost his glasses or whatever they are.
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Wasn't me. Was pretty funny though. Gotta love college ID night!Great game too. Saw my first bench clearer. Phillips was just being a #####. No need for yelling there. Tribe came back from 4-0. Grady with the game winner. :popcorn:
 
There are some teams that just seem to give you fits. O's seem to be one of those teams this year. Gotta even up the series today. 12:35pm start. :thumbup:

 
wadegarrett said:
There are some teams that just seem to give you fits. O's seem to be one of those teams this year. Gotta even up the series today. 12:35pm start. :pickle:
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CC does what an "ace" is supposed to do, end the droughts. Now Carmona seems to be pitching well today, but we just can't get to Traschel for some reason again. He must be the righty Moyer.Looks like Jason Davis designated for assignment. Interesting to see if he'll clear waivers. Seems doubtful, no?
 
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Bobcat10 said:
wadegarrett said:
There are some teams that just seem to give you fits. O's seem to be one of those teams this year. Gotta even up the series today. 12:35pm start. :)
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CC does what an "ace" is supposed to do, end the droughts. Now Carmona seems to be pitching well today, but we just can't get to Traschel for some reason again. He must be the righty Moyer.Looks like Jason Davis designated for assignment. Interesting to see if he'll clear waivers. Seems doubtful, no?
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No chance of him clearing waivers.Tribe getting no breaks today...4 of the 5 O's hits have been dribblers...one of the guys should have been out prior to getting a hit...2nd and 3rd, 1 out, and Hafner gets thrown out at the plate...replays say he was safe. :shock:
 
Wow, they walked Blake to get to Hafner too, and he K'd looking.

Good thing VMart and Nixon are hitting behind him. :lmao:

 
Just picked up Sizemore in a trade this week. Nice to see him have a good day today, but what has been going on with him this year?

.248 average :excited:

 
Green94 said:
Just picked up Sizemore in a trade this week. Nice to see him have a good day today, but what has been going on with him this year? .248 average :towelwave:
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He'll be fine. He's been clutch most of the year, has seen the most pitches by an AL batter, and leads the league in on base % (at least that's what I heard yesterday). Needs to cut down on strikeouts and put the ball in play more using his speed.
 
wadegarrett said:
Green94 said:
Just picked up Sizemore in a trade this week. Nice to see him have a good day today, but what has been going on with him this year? .248 average :thumbup:
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:rolleyes:Been getting clutch hits lately. .410 OBP though. Average should come around.
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Bobcat10 said:
Green94 said:
Just picked up Sizemore in a trade this week. Nice to see him have a good day today, but what has been going on with him this year? .248 average :pickle:
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He'll be fine. He's been clutch most of the year, has seen the most pitches by an AL batter, and leads the league in on base % (at least that's what I heard yesterday). Needs to cut down on strikeouts and put the ball in play more using his speed.
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Ok - good to hear. Haven't really followed him at all this season, I was just looking at his stats.
 
Where do you guys rank Sabathia amongst MLB Starting pitchers fantasy wise? His numbers look pretty good so far and he should be able to win quite a few games with that offense. Might be getting him in a deal so any homer input would be appreciated!

 
BoomBoom said:
Where do you guys rank Sabathia amongst MLB Starting pitchers fantasy wise? His numbers look pretty good so far and he should be able to win quite a few games with that offense. Might be getting him in a deal so any homer input would be appreciated!
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I actually replied in your trade thread already. I gave a counter to the guy suggesting Halladay is >>>>>>>>>>> CC.In short, I'd want CC right now, even moreso if it is a keeper.
 
wadegarrett said:
Bobcat10 said:
wadegarrett said:
Faustro looking strong again.
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This is going to get VERY interesting if he keeps pitching well.Sowers is going to get demoted if things stay about the same until Westbrook comes back (although I'm not sure of his timetable).
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You could be right about Sowers. Nice to have the depth though.
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:eek: There's teams that would give alot for the depth we have.

And then there is Adam Miller improving to 4-0 in AAA. :mellow: :eek:

 
Bobcat10 said:
wadegarrett said:
Bobcat10 said:
wadegarrett said:
Faustro looking strong again.
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This is going to get VERY interesting if he keeps pitching well.Sowers is going to get demoted if things stay about the same until Westbrook comes back (although I'm not sure of his timetable).
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You could be right about Sowers. Nice to have the depth though.
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:yes: There's teams that would give alot for the depth we have.

And then there is Adam Miller improving to 4-0 in AAA. :lmao: :hot:
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Jason Stanford looking good also...now 3-0. :banned:
 
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