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*** Official 2008 Cubs bandwagon. All aboard! *** (1 Viewer)

pantagrapher said:
Whew. I'm glad they avoided blowing that one.
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:shrug: They did try their best though. Lily still thinks he's pitching in the playoffs. :lmao: Amazingly, we apparently just need a starter who can make it into the 2nd, as Howry, Leiber, Wuertz, & Marmol combined for 7 IP, 1 R (unearned) on 4 H, 2BB and 4 K - not bad. :lmao:
 
Glad someone woke up uncle Lou and let him know he's got some fast guys on his team.

Nice to see them finally stealing some bases.

 
Tony Danza said:
Glad someone woke up uncle Lou and let him know he's got some fast guys on his team.Nice to see them finally stealing some bases.
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:thumbup: This is the best development of the young season thus far. In my mind I KNEW we were going to lose yesterday. I'm glad they decided to shut me up.
 
Night Hawks said:
Pie sucks.
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I'm beginning to agree. The freaking kid has zero plate discipline :loco: .However he comes up big in the 15th., with two outs for what turns out to be the game winning hit. :shrug: :bag:
 
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awesomeness said:
nice win for the cubs, great game by Geovanny :shrug:
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Yes, a huge night by Geo, but the one performance that should not get lost in Geo's great night was the out####ingstandingrelief pitching of Lieber. The Cubs really needed that after using up the pen in the earlier two extra inning affairs in the series.Hill certainly was off tonight, lets hope he can right the ship his next time out.I'm glad to see Soriano picking up the pace. :thumbup:
 
Lord, Hammels is living on a prayer right now...if there was any wind blowing out at all, it would be 4-0 Cubs...how many warning track shots can a team hit in two innings?

 
428143 said:
Lord, Hammels is living on a prayer right now...if there was any wind blowing out at all, it would be 4-0 Cubs...how many warning track shots can a team hit in two innings?
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I think the wind is blowing. That one Soriano hit in the first inning looked like a blooper off the bat and almost floated out. That said, Hammels doesn't look impressive at all tonight.
 
I know the season is only two weeks in...but how can the talent that the Cubs have amassed be trailing the Cardinals?

Wainwright = decent

Looper? A Rays reject...

Wellemeyer? a Cubs cast off...

Lohse? no talent hack, with a K/9 of about 2

Thompson????

and what is waiting in the wings...Piniero????

and the Cubs are trailing that litany of bums?????

Good luck with DeRosa or Murton taking over for Soriano. Comical.

At least Dempster appears to have made the reconversion to SP. Now you just need to get Hill straightened out.

I know the Cardinals are headed for a nose dive - but the Cubs and Brewers better start playing some ball before the Reds and Pirates start believing they can hang.

 
Power Monster said:
Any word on Soriano?
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15-day DL, Cubs recall Eric Patterson.I'd hope Soriano gets healthy and returns soon, but I like Patterson and am curious to see what he does with this stint.
 
No Soriano and still no Pie in the sky against freakring Josh Fogg of all pitchers.

I wish they'd send him down so I can replace him and keep him.

 
Mr. Know-It-All said:
I know the season is only two weeks in...but how can the talent that the Cubs have amassed be trailing the Cardinals?Wainwright = decentLooper? A Rays reject...Wellemeyer? a Cubs cast off...Lohse? no talent hack, with a K/9 of about 2Thompson????and what is waiting in the wings...Piniero????and the Cubs are trailing that litany of bums?????Good luck with DeRosa or Murton taking over for Soriano. Comical.At least Dempster appears to have made the reconversion to SP. Now you just need to get Hill straightened out.I know the Cardinals are headed for a nose dive - but the Cubs and Brewers better start playing some ball before the Reds and Pirates start believing they can hang.
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The story here isn't the Cubs chasing these slubs, it's that the Cardinals have the second highest winning percentage in all of baseball. That's your story.Oh, and for the record, the Cubs have the 5th best winning percentage.The Cubs will run away with this division if they play .615 all year(and thats not going to happen either)Nice fishing trip
 
Love Zambrano when he is on and even if the wind is blowing out 20+ his heavy sinking go to pitches are devastating. DLee is killing and Soto looks legit. Liked the pre-game routine where Zambrano pretended to pound Fontenot into the ground. He is the emotional leader of the team and if he maintains his control he will be in the Cy Young race.

 
Wrigley said:
Mr. Know-It-All said:
I know the season is only two weeks in...but how can the talent that the Cubs have amassed be trailing the Cardinals?Wainwright = decentLooper? A Rays reject...Wellemeyer? a Cubs cast off...Lohse? no talent hack, with a K/9 of about 2Thompson????and what is waiting in the wings...Piniero????and the Cubs are trailing that litany of bums?????Good luck with DeRosa or Murton taking over for Soriano. Comical.At least Dempster appears to have made the reconversion to SP. Now you just need to get Hill straightened out.I know the Cardinals are headed for a nose dive - but the Cubs and Brewers better start playing some ball before the Reds and Pirates start believing they can hang.
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The story here isn't the Cubs chasing these slubs, it's that the Cardinals have the second highest winning percentage in all of baseball. That's your story.Oh, and for the record, the Cubs have the 5th best winning percentage.The Cubs will run away with this division if they play .615 all year(and thats not going to happen either)Nice fishing trip
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Going into the year I thought the Cubs and brewers would run away with it. Then a few problems with the Brewers pitching staff emerged and I thought the Cubs would be unchalleneged.I still think the Cubs are the class of the division, but if Soriano is out for awhile (and the Cubs seem oblivious to Murton's talents) that will hurt. Also I am not sold on the pitching staff past Zambrano. I think Lilly is a very good pitcher...but 2007 good? I don't think so. Dempster had decent stuff before the injury sent him to the pen - so he migth comeback strong. Hill appears to have lost it. If the Cubs get pitching figured out they should win this thing by 10 + games.
 
Limp Ditka said:
Marty Brennaman calls out the worst behaved fans in baseball.

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sp...6962881.mp3file
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It's bad enough you're a bandwagon jumping frontrunner, but do you seriously need to troll the Cubs thread and piss all over them? You used to be a Cubs fan before you jumped on the Sox bandwagon, rememeber. How do you live with yourself? Serious question here. If I was your son, I'd put myself up for adoption.

 
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Mister Martie said:
Limp Ditka said:
Marty Brennaman calls out the worst behaved fans in baseball.

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sp...6962881.mp3file
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It's bad enough you're a bandwagon jumping frontrunner, but do you seriously need to troll the Cubs thread and piss all over them? You used to be a Cubs fan before you jumped on the Sox bandwagon, rememeber. How do you live with yourself? Serious question here. If I was your son, I'd put myself up for adoption.
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You have the nerve to ask me how I live with myself and then take a shot at my kid?Get a ####### grip you classless tool and ask yourself the same question.

And BTW, since you want to bring my son into this.....

If I saw my son doing that crap at a ballgame it would be the last one he ever went to on my dime. Maybe some good parenting is what that tribe of low class fans on the North Side is missing in their life. Exhibit A, yourself, shows me it's likely the case.

 
Limp Ditka said:
Mister Martie said:
Limp Ditka said:
Marty Brennaman calls out the worst behaved fans in baseball.

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sp...6962881.mp3file
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It's bad enough you're a bandwagon jumping frontrunner, but do you seriously need to troll the Cubs thread and piss all over them? You used to be a Cubs fan before you jumped on the Sox bandwagon, rememeber. How do you live with yourself? Serious question here. If I was your son, I'd put myself up for adoption.
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You have the nerve to ask me how I live with myself and then take a shot at my kid?Get a ####### grip you classless tool and ask yourself the same question.

And BTW, since you want to bring my son into this.....

If I saw my son doing that crap at a ballgame it would be the last one he ever went to on my dime. Maybe some good parenting is what that tribe of low class fans on the North Side is missing in their life. Exhibit A, yourself, shows me it's likely the case.
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Low class Cub fans?You must have still been a Cub fan during this White Sox highlight.

Now please, go back to your little thread about your team, and stop pissing in ours.

 
Wrigley said:
Limp Ditka said:
Mister Martie said:
Limp Ditka said:
Marty Brennaman calls out the worst behaved fans in baseball.

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sp...6962881.mp3file
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It's bad enough you're a bandwagon jumping frontrunner, but do you seriously need to troll the Cubs thread and piss all over them? You used to be a Cubs fan before you jumped on the Sox bandwagon, rememeber. How do you live with yourself? Serious question here. If I was your son, I'd put myself up for adoption.
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You have the nerve to ask me how I live with myself and then take a shot at my kid?Get a ####### grip you classless tool and ask yourself the same question.

And BTW, since you want to bring my son into this.....

If I saw my son doing that crap at a ballgame it would be the last one he ever went to on my dime. Maybe some good parenting is what that tribe of low class fans on the North Side is missing in their life. Exhibit A, yourself, shows me it's likely the case.
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Low class Cub fans?You must have still been a Cub fan during this White Sox highlight.

Now please, go back to your little thread about your team, and stop pissing in ours.
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No, I was a Sox fan and that was more than embarassing. But thanks for bringing up one occurance from 8 years ago and using it to defend Cubs fans from their once a month tirade of throwing crap all over the field when things don't go their way. And when they think littering the field with crap isn't enough, it gets real fun.

From the article.

On Sept. 28, 1995, Cubs reliever Randy Myers was charged by a 27-year-old bond trader who ran out of the stands at Wrigley Field. Myers saw the man coming, dropped his glove and knocked him down with his forearm.
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Thanks for setting the precedent :wub:

And thanks keeping up the tradition

 
Jay Mariotti actually gets one right

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/mariotti/90...i042008.article

Hey, you. Yes, the dope throwing a baseball on the field at the same time 14 other dopes throw baseballs on the field. You are not the story. You think you're the story, in part because the media have overdosed in romanticizing the fan experience at Wrigley Field. But in truth, you're just an ######## who could hit someone in the head, including a Cubs player.

And, you. Yes, the frightening excuse for a human being who sold a crude and racially insensitive t-shirt at a stand across from Wrigley. You are not the story. You think you're the story, because in your pathetic little world, making fun of Kosuke ####udome with images of a slanted-eyed cub from the official team logo and oversized Harry Caray glasses -- with ``Horry Kow'' spelled out in Japanese -- somehow is good business. But in truth, you and the idiots who bought such garbage need one-way tickets to another planet.

And, you. Yeah, the derelict who fell into the left-field basket on Opening Day. You are not the story. You think you're the story, like a lot of people who sit in the bleachers and realize the TV cameras always are on because, you know, only the cool kids sit out there. But in truth, you deserve to be ridiculed by YouTube surfers who note that your shoe remained in the basket after you were pulled out.

The problem with the Friendly Confines is that they've become relentlessly unfriendly and increasingly obnoxious and stupid. Fueled by alcohol, ego, 100 years of institutional futility and a blind belief that an entire universe revolves around their expensive butt space on the north side of Chicago, in the state of Illinois, in what is supposed to be the clear-thinking heartland of America, a lot of Cubs fans seem to think they're bigger than the players, the manager and the games. Wrigley always has been a carnival of kookishness with its share of crazy fan episodes -- the day in 1995 when pitcher Randy Myers wailed on a charging fan, the night in 2000 when several Los Angeles Dodgers climbed into the stands and chased a fan who'd stolen the cap of catcher Chad Krueter or, of late, the night last season when a fan trotted onto the field to chat up Bob Howry after he allowed a three-run homer. Then there was a certain fan who reached for a foul ball and changed the course of baseball history, though I won't name him because a failing Tribune columnist -- lacking creative juices and originality -- will keep counting how many times I mention the fan.

But this season, Cubdom has entered the twilight zone. Barely a day passes without a fan making news, and if it's a reflection on society generally wigging out in the 21st century, also understand that Wrigley is supposed to be above such lunacy. It is marketed as a shrine and fan-friendly tourist attraction, yet it's much closer to an raucous beer garden filled with just enough jerks to spoil the reputation of a much larger percentage of good fans. If Sam Zell still wants to sell naming rights, he might try a rehab clinic.

Betty Ford Center at Wrigley Field.

To me, Cubdom's best tradition is throwing back the ball after the enemy hits a homer. Well, after Cincinnati's Adam Dunn hit one Wednesday night, no fewer than 15 batting-practice balls littered the outfield from all directions. What if one had hit ####udome, who must wonder what kind of wacky country he's living in? This obviously was a preconceived prank, and I can't blame the venerable Reds broadcaster, Marty Brennaman, for reacting with alarm. Pat Hughes, the Cubs' radio voice, mentioned it in passing. Not Brennaman.

``See, this is the kind of thing, quite honestly, that makes you want to see the Chicago Cubs team lose,'' said Brennaman, whose son, Thom, used to work for the Cubs as a radio broadcaster. ``Far and away, the most obnoxious fans in baseball in this league are those who follow this team right here. Throwing 15 or 18 balls onto the field, there's absolutely no excuse for that. And that is so typical of Chicago Cub fans. It's unbelievable.''

From there, Brennaman launched a tirade about why he roots against the Cubs, which has become the focus of angry locals who have turned him into a pariah and, amazingly, shifted the focus from unpopular Dusty Baker. Consider the back-and-forth between Brennaman and partner Jeff Brantley:

Brennaman: ``All winter, they talked about this team winning the division, and my comment was, they won't because at the end of the day, they are still the Chicago Cubs and they'll figure out a way to screw this whole thing up.''

Brantley: ``And then they'll have no one to boo but themselves.''

Brennaman: ``Well, they never blame themselves.''

Brantley: ``They blame the goat.''

Brennaman: ``They blame that old billy goat.''

Brantley: ``Anyone who blames a goat for that long a losing, that's silly.''

But what shouldn't be lost in the byplay is Brennaman's dead-on criticism of the bad fans. Cubs management, reacting quickly, ejected at least eight of the ball-heaving folks. The front office also is commended for having the horrible t-shirts yanked from the souvenir stand, which should please ####udome, who had expressed concern about the symbolism. Still, on Friday, as Nate McLouth chased a ball that ####udome hit for a triple, a drink from the bleachers came close to dousing the Pittsburgh center fielder. Will it ever end? Or is someone else plotting another 15-ball attack?

``It’s something I hadn’t seen before," said manager Lou Piniella, who is increasingly blown away by what he sees at Wrigley. ``What’s amazing is, they beat each other up trying to get these balls in batting practice. They scrape their knees and elbows, and I've seen some fistfights out there. And all of a sudden, they give them up rather easily.

``Look, I'd never seen that before, and hopefully we won’t see it again."

A day later, Piniella was defending the fans in the wake of the Brennaman attack. ``Marty's a Cincinnati guy, obviously, he's rooting for the Reds," he said. ``I don't think our fans are obnoxious. I think they get into the ballgame. They enjoy coming out to a ballgame, and that's why they draw here the way they do. It's a fun environment, and they get into it.''

I wish Piniella wouldn't have been so forgiving. He's trying to remain in the fans' good standing, of couse, knowing anything less than his full support might relegate him to Lee Elia status. But when he gives them a pass, he opens the floodgates to who-knows-what?

Other than walking the course at Augusta National, fresh in my memory from last week, no sight in sports is more numbing then entering the front gate at Clark and Addison, climbing the steps behind home plate and seeing nothing but green. It's vital that the Cubs preserve Wrigley as a precious slice of Americana and not let madness become the ballpark's foremost identity. I have no problem with booing, drinking a couple of beers and plunging into a rocking time. But lately -- and brace yourselves -- Wrigley has traded places with what suddenly is a kinder, more sedate ballpark.

In the name of William Ligue, would you believe U.S. Cellular Field has become saner than Cubdom?

Consider it a call for reform.
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Limp Ditka said:
Marty Brennaman calls out the worst behaved fans in baseball.

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sp...6962881.mp3file
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On ESPN Radio it was mentioned that Brenneman might have ulterior motives in his attack on the Cubs: he feels that his son got screwed over by Cubs management regarding the WGN play-by-play gig.In the mid 1990's Harry Caray stopped doing road games, and Brennemen took his place. He was supposed to take over full-time when Harry finally retired.

But when Harry's grandson Chip became available, Harry badgered the Cubs into hiring him, and shoved Thom out of the way.

 
Encyclopedia Brown said:
Limp Ditka said:
Marty Brennaman calls out the worst behaved fans in baseball.

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sp...6962881.mp3file
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On ESPN Radio it was mentioned that Brenneman might have ulterior motives in his attack on the Cubs: he feels that his son got screwed over by Cubs management regarding the WGN play-by-play gig.In the mid 1990's Harry Caray stopped doing road games, and Brennemen took his place. He was supposed to take over full-time when Harry finally retired.

But when Harry's grandson Chip became available, Harry badgered the Cubs into hiring him, and shoved Thom out of the way.
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Quite aware of the history there. A good number of Cubs fans acted like idiots that day, and regardless of that history, there's no reason for Marty to refrain from calling them out for acting that way.

 
Limp Ditka said:
Jay Mariotti actually gets one right

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/mariotti/90...i042008.article

Brennaman: ``All winter, they talked about this team winning the division, and my comment was, they won't because at the end of the day, they are still the Chicago Cubs and they'll figure out a way to screw this whole thing up.''

Brantley: ``And then they'll have no one to boo but themselves.''

Brennaman: ``Well, they never blame themselves.''

Brantley: ``They blame the goat.''

Brennaman: ``They blame that old billy goat.''

Brantley: ``Anyone who blames a goat for that long a losing, that's silly.''
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Brenneman and Brantley are idiots. Who the hell blames a goat??? Do they honestly think Cubs fans think the goat is the reason they haven't won in 100 years? The goat is a fun little story that has no merit and any Cubs fan will tell you that. Think a little bit. If I am a reporter or journalist, and I want to write a story about this goat, I'm aiming to make it a fun story that amuses. When I go out into Wrigleyville, I ask 100 people about this. If 3 say it's the goat's fault, even if they're just playing along, I now have a story that says Cubs fans blame the goat, even though I've left the other 97 fans out of the story. Brennaman's still bitter about the history. That being said, I hate fans who ruin the integrity of the game and the good name of all other Cubs fans. I hate Mariotti but I agree with most of this column. When I'm in Wrigley, I respect the game, I respect the opponents, I respect the team, I respect the ballpark. Of course, because of this, MY behavior would never be pointed out as one of a Cubs fan. Go figure.

 
Night Hawks said:
Limp Ditka said:
Jay Mariotti actually gets one right

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/mariotti/90...i042008.article

Brennaman: ``All winter, they talked about this team winning the division, and my comment was, they won't because at the end of the day, they are still the Chicago Cubs and they'll figure out a way to screw this whole thing up.''

Brantley: ``And then they'll have no one to boo but themselves.''

Brennaman: ``Well, they never blame themselves.''

Brantley: ``They blame the goat.''

Brennaman: ``They blame that old billy goat.''

Brantley: ``Anyone who blames a goat for that long a losing, that's silly.''
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Brenneman and Brantley are idiots. Who the hell blames a goat??? Do they honestly think Cubs fans think the goat is the reason they haven't won in 100 years? The goat is a fun little story that has no merit and any Cubs fan will tell you that. Think a little bit. If I am a reporter or journalist, and I want to write a story about this goat, I'm aiming to make it a fun story that amuses. When I go out into Wrigleyville, I ask 100 people about this. If 3 say it's the goat's fault, even if they're just playing along, I now have a story that says Cubs fans blame the goat, even though I've left the other 97 fans out of the story. Brennaman's still bitter about the history. That being said, I hate fans who ruin the integrity of the game and the good name of all other Cubs fans. I hate Mariotti but I agree with most of this column. When I'm in Wrigley, I respect the game, I respect the opponents, I respect the team, I respect the ballpark. Of course, because of this, MY behavior would never be pointed out as one of a Cubs fan. Go figure.
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Unfortunatly, the actions of a few speak for many. And there's more than a few at Wrigley that are responsible for these actions that reflect poorly upon the rest. As for the Billy Goat thing, it is embraced whether it's believed or not. Heck, they've paraded various goats around that ballpark, both inside and out, to "break the curse" more than a few times over the last 10 -15 years. You give it the pomp and circumstance like the Cubs and their fans have and you can see why outsiders would think that way.

And it's not just the goat. It's the gatorade, it's the black cat, it's Bartman. There's a long line of off the field excuses in the Cubs fan arsenal to blame for that Century of futility.

 
Another solid win today.

Limpy, WTF is your problem? We get it, you don't like the Cubs(anymore)

Why post here?

The thread is "Cubs Bandwagon".......are you thinking about getting back on(again)?

After all, everyone knows you're a fair weather fan.

 
Wrigley said:
Another solid win today.Limpy, WTF is your problem? We get it, you don't like the Cubs(anymore)Why post here?The thread is "Cubs Bandwagon".......are you thinking about getting back on(again)? After all, everyone knows you're a fair weather fan.
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My reason for posting here is that Marty Brenneman is right and the subject warrants discussion. I live in Chicago and know plenty of people that are Cubs fans and they share the same mindset about the culture at the ballpark that I do. At any given time, especially during night games, Wrigley Field is a tinder box just waiting to explode with the latest embarassment for baseball. It's sad. Even my father, who's going on 60 years of being a Cubs fan is embarassed about what goes on there and what a baseball game at Wrigley has become. But you go ahead and keep trying to change the subject and turn this into being about my allegiances and crap that happened on the South Side 6 years ago. You ask me, it sounds like the truth hurts and you don't want to discuss it.
 
:onboard: (Like every year.)

I've been really pleased with Reed Johnson's play. Like many Cub fans, when I heard that they signed him I responded: "Who?" It seems like he is going to play a significant role this year.

Is there any way we can play the Pirates more often?

What Cubs player could get more tail in his day in Wrigleyville than Mark DeRosa (disregard the fact that I think he's married)? Grace? Farnsworth?

 
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