Official 2010 Dallas Cowboys In Season Thread (2 Viewers)

[culdeus]

Im curious to know how the coaching staff who led Dallas to thier first playoff victory in 10+ years in 2009 is suddenly the root of all the problems. Another thing I would like to add is that even though it was maddening to see flare passes time after time to Felix, Garrett did this to offset the advantage that the Vikings d-line had. Garrett is far from ######ed and his gameplans could actually work if not for the penalties or stupid plays (like Free not getting out of his stance). Its maddening to watch this team find ways to lose each week, especially after being up at halftime and in control of the game. Good to hear that Kosier is only out 1-3 weeks, I thought it may be season ending.

So a playoff win - one - is the mark of an acceptable coaching staff to you regarding a team that considers itself a Super Bowl caliber team? What makes you think the coaches "led them" to that win, anyway?

At some point the shine rubs off that playoff win. Philly was without question the worst playoff team in last year, and the Cowboys for some reason had their number late in the season. When playing a team that didn't even advance an additional round they were smoked. At what point do you just write that off as a lucky draw? 5-11? 4-12?

 

[switz]

There is no way Dallas' trio of WRs is the best in the league. No way. Austin is a top 5 NFL WR, but Dez Bryant has 18 NFL catches, and Roy Williams, despite his five TD catches this year, is still a massive underachiever.

We aren't talking about "best in league", we are talking about talent. And the fact you use "underachiever" to describe Wiiliams shows even you believe he has more talent than is displayed.Bryant may have only 18 catches buy he was probably the most talented WR in this draft.Give me a more talented top-3 on a roster.

 

[Nightly Mistake]

We aren't talking about "best in league", we are talking about talent.

Anyone need a sig?

 

[netnalp]

There is no way Dallas' trio of WRs is the best in the league. No way. Austin is a top 5 NFL WR, but Dez Bryant has 18 NFL catches, and Roy Williams, despite his five TD catches this year, is still a massive underachiever.

We aren't talking about "best in league", we are talking about talent. And the fact you use "underachiever" to describe Wiiliams shows even you believe he has more talent than is displayed.Bryant may have only 18 catches buy he was probably the most talented WR in this draft.Give me a more talented top-3 on a roster.

I would consider, in no particular order, these teams to have better top 3WRs than the Cowboys top 3:BengalsGiantsTexansColtsPackersVikingsJetsEagles might be about equal to what the Cowboys have.

 

[switz]

We aren't talking about "best in league", we are talking about talent.

Anyone need a sig?

 

[switz]

There is no way Dallas' trio of WRs is the best in the league. No way. Austin is a top 5 NFL WR, but Dez Bryant has 18 NFL catches, and Roy Williams, despite his five TD catches this year, is still a massive underachiever.

We aren't talking about "best in league", we are talking about talent. And the fact you use "underachiever" to describe Wiiliams shows even you believe he has more talent than is displayed.Bryant may have only 18 catches buy he was probably the most talented WR in this draft.Give me a more talented top-3 on a roster.

I would consider, in no particular order, these teams to have better top 3WRs than the Cowboys top 3:BengalsGiantsTexansColtsPackersVikingsJetsEagles might be about equal to what the Cowboys have.

I'll give you the Jets.I don't even know who the Bengals #3 WR is...Do the Texans have any WRs outside of Andre JohnsonColts WRs outside of Wayne are average at best (and I'm a huge Colts fan)Packers have a better overall corps, but I'd still say the Ciwboys top-3 are more talented than their top-3.Viking, if Rice were healthy I'd agreeGiants, are you kidding?

 

[Ridgelake]

So the Cowboys have the #3 offense in the NFL and the #4 defense from a yardage perspective. Thats really hard to do and be 1-4. Incredible the ways this team has found to lose games.

 

[Texasmouth]

I wonder if the amount of talent will be enough to lure a great coach here even though they will be saddled with ridiculous expectations and micromanaged by Jerry Jones?

 

[simmonjm]

Im curious to know how the coaching staff who led Dallas to thier first playoff victory in 10+ years in 2009 is suddenly the root of all the problems. Another thing I would like to add is that even though it was maddening to see flare passes time after time to Felix, Garrett did this to offset the advantage that the Vikings d-line had. Garrett is far from ######ed and his gameplans could actually work if not for the penalties or stupid plays (like Free not getting out of his stance). Its maddening to watch this team find ways to lose each week, especially after being up at halftime and in control of the game. Good to hear that Kosier is only out 1-3 weeks, I thought it may be season ending.

So a playoff win - one - is the mark of an acceptable coaching staff to you regarding a team that considers itself a Super Bowl caliber team? What makes you think the coaches "led them" to that win, anyway?

No of course not, im simply asking the question how can Wade suddenly be such a loser coach when he has won NFC East 2 out of past 3 years and won a playoff game. Wade finished better than 24 coaches last year. By no means am I giving him a free pass for this years performance, rather im trying to keep a levelhead about the 2010 demise.

 

[Yenrub]

So the Cowboys have the #3 offense in the NFL and the #4 defense from a yardage perspective. Thats really hard to do and be 1-4. Incredible the ways this team has found to lose games.

When I saw that today I was really surprised by their rankings. That IS really hard to.

 

[Nightly Mistake]

Im curious to know how the coaching staff who led Dallas to thier first playoff victory in 10+ years in 2009 is suddenly the root of all the problems. Another thing I would like to add is that even though it was maddening to see flare passes time after time to Felix, Garrett did this to offset the advantage that the Vikings d-line had. Garrett is far from ######ed and his gameplans could actually work if not for the penalties or stupid plays (like Free not getting out of his stance). Its maddening to watch this team find ways to lose each week, especially after being up at halftime and in control of the game. Good to hear that Kosier is only out 1-3 weeks, I thought it may be season ending.

So a playoff win - one - is the mark of an acceptable coaching staff to you regarding a team that considers itself a Super Bowl caliber team? What makes you think the coaches "led them" to that win, anyway?

No of course not, im simply asking the question how can Wade suddenly be such a loser coach when he has won NFC East 2 out of past 3 years and won a playoff game. Wade finished better than 24 coaches last year. By no means am I giving him a free pass for this years performance, rather im trying to keep a levelhead about the 2010 demise.

In exactly what competition did "Wade finish better than 24 coaches last year"? A pie-eating contest? The team is who played those games. The team is talented and beat a relatively weak division last year. I don't think Wade has ever added a thing to that team as a head coach - as a defensive coordinator maybe, but not as head coach. And why are you cherry-picking last year anyway? Are you in love with that first playoff win in 13 years so much that that inspires hero worship of Wade Freaking Phillips? Honestly, raise your standards a bit- wait. Don't raise your standards. You'll always be easily impressed if you don't.

 

[netnalp]

So the Cowboys have the #3 offense in the NFL and the #4 defense from a yardage perspective. Thats really hard to do and be 1-4. Incredible the ways this team has found to lose games.

When I saw that today I was really surprised by their rankings. That IS really hard to.

Other rankings make their collapse more believable:scored points 102 (17th)

allowed points 111 (21st)

takeaways/giveaways -5 (30th)

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/dal/2010.htm

 

[Nightly Mistake]

So the Cowboys have the #3 offense in the NFL and the #4 defense from a yardage perspective. Thats really hard to do and be 1-4. Incredible the ways this team has found to lose games.

When I saw that today I was really surprised by their rankings. That IS really hard to.

Other rankings make their collapse more believable:scored points 102 (17th)

allowed points 111 (21st)

takeaways/giveaways -5 (30th)

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/dal/2010.htm

And what about the penalty yard stats?

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

Im curious to know how the coaching staff who led Dallas to thier first playoff victory in 10+ years in 2009 is suddenly the root of all the problems. Another thing I would like to add is that even though it was maddening to see flare passes time after time to Felix, Garrett did this to offset the advantage that the Vikings d-line had. Garrett is far from ######ed and his gameplans could actually work if not for the penalties or stupid plays (like Free not getting out of his stance). Its maddening to watch this team find ways to lose each week, especially after being up at halftime and in control of the game. Good to hear that Kosier is only out 1-3 weeks, I thought it may be season ending.

So a playoff win - one - is the mark of an acceptable coaching staff to you regarding a team that considers itself a Super Bowl caliber team? What makes you think the coaches "led them" to that win, anyway?

No of course not, im simply asking the question how can Wade suddenly be such a loser coach when he has won NFC East 2 out of past 3 years and won a playoff game. Wade finished better than 24 coaches last year. By no means am I giving him a free pass for this years performance, rather im trying to keep a levelhead about the 2010 demise.

Problem is the Nfc East has only been so good. Winning the division is important, but not the end goal in mind. Even in winning those two division titles, those teams and the WadePhillips era are considered underachievers. Heading into this season, the Cowboys were all in, in trying to be an elite team in the league this year. It's been God awful this season and unfortunately the buck has to stop somewhere.He's not an awful coach but we are seeing the same old mistakes year after year. I've seen enough, I'm ready to go another direction.Phillips

 

[simmonjm]

Problem is the Nfc East has only been so good. Winning the division is important, but not the end goal in mind. Even in winning those two division titles, those teams and the WadePhillips era are considered underachievers. Heading into this season, the Cowboys were all in, in trying to be an elite team in the league this year. It's been God awful this season and unfortunately the buck has to stop somewhere.He's not an awful coach but we are seeing the same old mistakes year after year. I've seen enough, I'm ready to go another direction.Phillips

I think his demeanor opens him up to unwarranted criticism, its easy to pick on him when he has that same look on his face after a miscue. I agree with your assessment that he is an average coach. Who you hoping for as HC? (not a fan of Cowher)

 

[netnalp]

I think you'd want a get in your face, disciplinarian type. Gruden is like that. Saban might too.

 

[simmonjm]

I think you'd want a get in your face, disciplinarian type. Gruden is like that. Saban might too.

We went down that road with Parcells (disciplinarian) didnt really seem to work out all that well. Saban would be a horrible choice but Gruden would fit in perfect here I think he is too enamored with announcing to consider a return to coaching. BTW Culdeus did you see that the Cowboys are favored by 3 this weekend over the G-men?

 

[Nightly Mistake]

I think you'd want a get in your face, disciplinarian type. Gruden is like that. Saban might too.

We went down that road with Parcells (disciplinarian) didnt really seem to work out all that well. Saban would be a horrible choice but Gruden would fit in perfect here I think he is too enamored with announcing to consider a return to coaching. BTW Culdeus did you see that the Cowboys are favored by 3 this weekend over the G-men?

This wasn't the Parcells of old, though he was still hands down the best coach they've had since Johnson. Parcells wanted one last big payday after his divorce, and I don't think he was quite the same fire breather as before.

 

[gary mexico]

I think you'd want a get in your face, disciplinarian type. Gruden is like that. Saban might too.

Gruden is all fluff and saban would quit and run back to college with his tail between his legs, no thanks...

 

[simmonjm]

I think you'd want a get in your face, disciplinarian type. Gruden is like that. Saban might too.

We went down that road with Parcells (disciplinarian) didnt really seem to work out all that well. Saban would be a horrible choice but Gruden would fit in perfect here I think he is too enamored with announcing to consider a return to coaching. BTW Culdeus did you see that the Cowboys are favored by 3 this weekend over the G-men?

This wasn't the Parcells of old, though he was still hands down the best coach they've had since Johnson. Parcells wanted one last big payday after his divorce, and I don't think he was quite the same fire breather as before.

And yet Parcells couldnt win a playoff game yet, Wade Phillips did. Ironic really.

 

[Bankerguy]

So the Cowboys have the #3 offense in the NFL and the #4 defense from a yardage perspective. Thats really hard to do and be 1-4. Incredible the ways this team has found to lose games.

This about covers it.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

I think you'd want a get in your face, disciplinarian type. Gruden is like that. Saban might too.

We went down that road with Parcells (disciplinarian) didnt really seem to work out all that well. Saban would be a horrible choice but Gruden would fit in perfect here I think he is too enamored with announcing to consider a return to coaching. BTW Culdeus did you see that the Cowboys are favored by 3 this weekend over the G-men?

This wasn't the Parcells of old, though he was still hands down the best coach they've had since Johnson. Parcells wanted one last big payday after his divorce, and I don't think he was quite the same fire breather as before.

And yet Parcells couldnt win a playoff game yet, Wade Phillips did. Ironic really.

Parcels didn't work out that well? Really? You mean when he took over a complete disaster of a team, rebuilt them, to nearly the team they are today? The team that essesntialy won a playoff game in spite of the coaching staff.You're on an Island defending Wade. He seems like a nice guy, and I think he knows defense, but he's a below average head coach and a pushover.What we need is good assistant coaches, accountability, and a head coach who is a leader of men.

 

[Phurfur]

I think you'd want a get in your face, disciplinarian type. Gruden is like that. Saban might too.

We went down that road with Parcells (disciplinarian) didnt really seem to work out all that well. Saban would be a horrible choice but Gruden would fit in perfect here I think he is too enamored with announcing to consider a return to coaching. BTW Culdeus did you see that the Cowboys are favored by 3 this weekend over the G-men?

Don't lose sight of who built your team.

 

[dhockster]

So the Cowboys have the #3 offense in the NFL and the #4 defense from a yardage perspective. Thats really hard to do and be 1-4. Incredible the ways this team has found to lose games.

What is amazing is that they have outgained each of the 4 teams they lost to by a minimum of 100 yards. It is amazing what penalties and turnovers cando to a team.I think part of the problem with the Cowboys is Jerry Jones has said publicly that he thinks chemistry on a team is overrated. I think he picks playersjust based on talent and doesn't consider how they will fit into the team or how coachable they are. Therefore the Cowboys have a very "talented" team in terms of what they can do, but they don't do it consistently because they are not working together or they don't follow the coaching they have beengiven. I am not saying don't draft the best players. But sometimes the best players have less measurable talents, but still get the job done on the field. A QB witha great arm and accuracy will still not be very successful if he can't read a defense and is always throwing to the wrong receiver (that is an general example. I am not bashing Romo).

 

[netnalp]

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/20...t-still-bo.html

Eli's signature moment still bothers Dallas

By Ralph Vacchiano

It was bad enough down in Dallas when the Giants ruined the opening game of Jerry Jones’ new stadium by beating the Cowboys 33-31 last September. But it was made worse, apparently, when Eli Manning punctuated the victory by signing his name to the locker room wall.

Apparently they haven’t quite gotten over that down in Dallas, and Manning was quizzed about the signature moment on his conference call with the Texas media today.

Not surprisingly, Manning was “a little bit” surprised at all the attention his signature got. There are many visiting locker rooms in the NFL decorated with signatures of opponents. But when Manning became the first to sign the wall at Cowboys Stadium it became salt in the wound, especially since under his name he wrote the date and “’33-31’ First win in the new stadium.”

“A lot of different teams in opposing locker room, assistants have players sign the opposing wall,” Manning said. “I’ve done it at a lot of different places around the NFL and I thought they were starting a new tradition.

“It will be interesting to see if anybody else has signed the wall, or if I’m the only one, or if they erased it.”

Manning explained that it’s not like he signed the middle of the wall inside the visiting locker room. He actually signed his name “in the locker room attendant’s own little locker room in the back.”

“It’s not like I was trying to do anything disrespectful to their new stadium by any means,” he said. “I was surprised (at the attention it got) just because it is a tradition in a lot of other stadiums. Part of the reason why is it just wasn’t explained very well. People made it sound like I just went right in their locker room and right for everybody to see, (like) I was trying to do something disrespectful. It wasn’t like that by any means.”

Still, I’d imagine the thought of signing his name to the home team’s wall has to be a little tempting. And he’d have the chance to do it if the Giants reach Super Bowl XLV, which will be played at Cowboys Stadium in February. The NFC representative would be the home team and would get to use the Cowboys’ room.

The wall would be a tempting target for a signing, especially after a win.

“I don’t think so,” Manning said. “I ‘d like to be there, but I wouldn’t want to disrespect the Cowboys or their new stadium, I think people kind of got the wrong (idea), like I just signed right in the middle of the locker room for everybody to see. It’s far away and unless you’re invited to go back into the attendant’s own private locker room, you’re not going to see it.”

 

[simmonjm]

Parcels didn't work out that well? Really? You mean when he took over a complete disaster of a team, rebuilt them, to nearly the team they are today? The team that essesntialy won a playoff game in spite of the coaching staff.You're on an Island defending Wade. He seems like a nice guy, and I think he knows defense, but he's a below average head coach and a pushover.What we need is good assistant coaches, accountability, and a head coach who is a leader of men.

I am agreement that Dallas needs good assistant coaches, accountability, and a head coach who is a leader of men. I am merely try to point out the fallacy of everyone trying to make Phillips out like he is the second coming of Jim Zorn. Phillips has a great record and has gotten Dallas a playoff win, while expectations were certainly higher he has performed at a level I consider at the very least to be average.

 

[Nightly Mistake]

I think you'd want a get in your face, disciplinarian type. Gruden is like that. Saban might too.

We went down that road with Parcells (disciplinarian) didnt really seem to work out all that well. Saban would be a horrible choice but Gruden would fit in perfect here I think he is too enamored with announcing to consider a return to coaching. BTW Culdeus did you see that the Cowboys are favored by 3 this weekend over the G-men?

This wasn't the Parcells of old, though he was still hands down the best coach they've had since Johnson. Parcells wanted one last big payday after his divorce, and I don't think he was quite the same fire breather as before.

And yet Parcells couldnt win a playoff game yet, Wade Phillips did. Ironic really.

Yeah, Wade was awesome during that playoff game - unstoppable. Sure he'd wobble a little bit, but he'd go right back up and would never fall down. There you go putting huge value in a single playoff game win. That's pretty thin sauce with a team that is as talented as you're saying they are, talent which of course was accumulated primarily on Parcells' watch. Barry Switzer won a Super Bowl - does that make him a better coach than Parcells? I don't hate Wade personally, but he's no leader. If the team already has good leadership and functions well of its own accord, it can be successful under him. He won't fuss or meddle. If the team needs a kick in the pants, however, Wade has no ability to provide that. That team has been built to be a team of stars, and Wade has no ability to keep stars in their places if they act up.

 

[Sylira21]

I am merely try to point out the fallacy of everyone trying to make Phillips out like he is the second coming of Jim Zorn.

You know, the Z man is available...just think what he brings to the table. Experience in dealing with a nutball owner. Exciting playcalling diversity like The Swinging Gate. Knows the division...Just sayin'...

 

[simmonjm]

I think you'd want a get in your face, disciplinarian type. Gruden is like that. Saban might too.

We went down that road with Parcells (disciplinarian) didnt really seem to work out all that well. Saban would be a horrible choice but Gruden would fit in perfect here I think he is too enamored with announcing to consider a return to coaching. BTW Culdeus did you see that the Cowboys are favored by 3 this weekend over the G-men?

This wasn't the Parcells of old, though he was still hands down the best coach they've had since Johnson. Parcells wanted one last big payday after his divorce, and I don't think he was quite the same fire breather as before.

And yet Parcells couldnt win a playoff game yet, Wade Phillips did. Ironic really.

Yeah, Wade was awesome during that playoff game - unstoppable. Sure he'd wobble a little bit, but he'd go right back up and would never fall down. There you go putting huge value in a single playoff game win. That's pretty thin sauce with a team that is as talented as you're saying they are, talent which of course was accumulated primarily on Parcells' watch. Barry Switzer won a Super Bowl - does that make him a better coach than Parcells? I don't hate Wade personally, but he's no leader. If the team already has good leadership and functions well of its own accord, it can be successful under him. He won't fuss or meddle. If the team needs a kick in the pants, however, Wade has no ability to provide that. That team has been built to be a team of stars, and Wade has no ability to keep stars in their places if they act up.

I think we are finally reaching a middle ground on Wade. I would argue that Jerry AND Bill were instrumental in building this current roster, you cant have it both ways saying Jerry is meddling and responsible for failures and then go around and not give him credit for Cowboys success. BTW some great coordinators will be available next year (Norv Turner and Wade Phillips).

 

[whitem0nkey]

Cowboys season set to the theme from Benny Hill

 

[Nightly Mistake]

I would argue that Jerry AND Bill were instrumental in building this current roster

The drafting credit goes primarily to Jeff Ireland who Parcells brought on board and who followed him to Miami. Since Ireland left (except for the first draft only a few months after Ireland left and that was based primarily upon his draft prep) the drafting hasn't been the same. Last year's "special teams draft" for example was a disaster. Jerry has a decade of bad drafting after Jimmy Johnson left, and then the last couple of years have been relatively poor IMHO too. For example, even if Dez Bryant works out, the failure to draft an OL still warrants criticism given how fundamental those problems are for the offense - it's not like they really needed another WR.

you cant have it both ways saying Jerry is meddling and responsible for failures and then go around and not give him credit for Cowboys success.

Actually I can. I think Jerry undercuts Wade at every turn - making team statements traditionally made by coaches, for example - and that contributes to Wade's leadership and image problems. It gives the players the impression - not unjustified - that they're really answerable to Jerry and not to Wade and can basically ignore him.

 

[simmonjm]

The drafting credit goes primarily to Jeff Ireland who Parcells brought on board and who followed him to Miami. Since Ireland left (except for the first draft only a few months after Ireland left and that was based primarily upon his draft prep) the drafting hasn't been the same. Last year's "special teams draft" for example was a disaster. Jerry has a decade of bad drafting after Jimmy Johnson left, and then the last couple of years have been relatively poor IMHO too. For example, even if Dez Bryant works out, the failure to draft an OL still warrants criticism given how fundamental those problems are for the offense - it's not like they really needed another WR.

The draft is a crap shoot and yes the "special teams" draft is looking less than stellar but I give Jerry credit for this haul in 2008: Felix Jones, Martellus Bennet, Mike Jenkins, Tashard Choice, Orlando Scandrick, Erick Walden. Only Walden did not make the team. That draft was amazingly good.

 

[horadadude]

There is no way Dallas' trio of WRs is the best in the league. No way. Austin is a top 5 NFL WR, but Dez Bryant has 18 NFL catches, and Roy Williams, despite his five TD catches this year, is still a massive underachiever.

We aren't talking about "best in league", we are talking about talent. And the fact you use "underachiever" to describe Wiiliams shows even you believe he has more talent than is displayed.Bryant may have only 18 catches buy he was probably the most talented WR in this draft.Give me a more talented top-3 on a roster.

I would consider, in no particular order, these teams to have better top 3WRs than the Cowboys top 3:BengalsGiantsTexansColtsPackersVikingsJetsEagles might be about equal to what the Cowboys have.

I'll give you the Jets.I don't even know who the Bengals #3 WR is...Do the Texans have any WRs outside of Andre JohnsonColts WRs outside of Wayne are average at best (and I'm a huge Colts fan)Packers have a better overall corps, but I'd still say the Ciwboys top-3 are more talented than their top-3.Viking, if Rice were healthy I'd agreeGiants, are you kidding?

Smith, Nicks and Manningham dont qualify?Austin - I will give you thatDez Bryant - lets not put him in Canton just yetRoy Williams - coming on as of late

 

[Mustang Man]

This just in, the NFC sucks. The best team right now, I keep hearing the Giants are. Mark it down, Dallas will beat the G-Men Monday night. If there was ever a year a 1-4 team could make noise this it it fellas. Do or die and I guarantee a victory Monday night WATCH!

 

[cobalt_27]

Seriously, I don't know when this happened, but...

What is it that makes one particular poster so proud about a single playoff win? Why should that be logged on the positive side of the equation? Isn't that sort of a negative, given what they have had 13, 9, and 11 win seasons the last 3 years?

I am not optimistic that we have the talent or discipline to string together enough wins to make the playoffs, but if it starts, this week is as must-win as any playoff game.

What a disaster.

 

[DaWidowMaker]

This just in, the NFC sucks. The best team right now, I keep hearing the Giants are. Mark it down, Dallas will beat the G-Men Monday night. If there was ever a year a 1-4 team could make noise this it it fellas. Do or die and I guarantee a victory Monday night WATCH!

I with you playa...2-4 after we dismantle the "Best" team in the NFC. With the way the refs have been throwing flags, Vegas giving Dallas the line....America believes they are due. Dallas in a big, big win at home.28-17 How bout dem Cowboys!!!!

 

[simmonjm]

Seriously, I don't know when this happened, but...What is it that makes one particular poster so proud about a single playoff win? Why should that be logged on the positive side of the equation? Isn't that sort of a negative, given what they have had 13, 9, and 11 win seasons the last 3 years?I am not optimistic that we have the talent or discipline to string together enough wins to make the playoffs, but if it starts, this week is as must-win as any playoff game.What a disaster.

Reading comprehension down? I am simply pointing out the fallacy of classifying Wade as anything less than average. He has had 1 losing season in 8 years coaching yet 75% of posters here want to classify him as the worst in the NFL. But please dont let logic stop your argument that Wade is lost, incompetent, etc.

 

[simmonjm]

This just in, the NFC sucks. The best team right now, I keep hearing the Giants are. Mark it down, Dallas will beat the G-Men Monday night. If there was ever a year a 1-4 team could make noise this it it fellas. Do or die and I guarantee a victory Monday night WATCH!

I with you playa...2-4 after we dismantle the "Best" team in the NFC. With the way the refs have been throwing flags, Vegas giving Dallas the line....America believes they are due. Dallas in a big, big win at home.28-17 How bout dem Cowboys!!!!

I'll drink to this

 

[switz]

Seriously, I don't know when this happened, but...

What is it that makes one particular poster so proud about a single playoff win? Why should that be logged on the positive side of the equation? Isn't that sort of a negative, given what they have had 13, 9, and 11 win seasons the last 3 years?

I am not optimistic that we have the talent or discipline to string together enough wins to make the playoffs, but if it starts, this week is as must-win as any playoff game.

What a disaster.

Reading comprehension down? I am simply pointing out the fallacy of classifying Wade as anything less than average. He has had 1 losing season in 8 years coaching yet 75% of posters here want to classify him as the worst in the NFL. But please dont let logic stop your argument that Wade is lost, incompetent, etc.

Are you really expecting cobalt_27 to allow logic to influence anything he says?

 

[netnalp]

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/6463/10manningagain.jpg

 

[cobalt_27]

Seriously, I don't know when this happened, but...What is it that makes one particular poster so proud about a single playoff win? Why should that be logged on the positive side of the equation? Isn't that sort of a negative, given what they have had 13, 9, and 11 win seasons the last 3 years?I am not optimistic that we have the talent or discipline to string together enough wins to make the playoffs, but if it starts, this week is as must-win as any playoff game.What a disaster.

Reading comprehension down? I am simply pointing out the fallacy of classifying Wade as anything less than average. He has had 1 losing season in 8 years coaching yet 75% of posters here want to classify him as the worst in the NFL. But please dont let logic stop your argument that Wade is lost, incompetent, etc.

What have the expectations been for this team over the last 3 years? Certainly greater than 1 playoff win, I would hope. So, what is unwarranted about criticism of a head coach who has been the architect of mediocrity (or, "average" performance, as you described it)? It's not like we're dealing with the Cleveland Browns here. This team has historically underperformed to the supposed talent. That's a direct indictment on the coaching staff, which is Wade's domain and responsibility. Seems like you're trying to just navigate your way through a thick cognitive dissonance here.

 

[Nightly Mistake]

This just in, the NFC sucks. The best team right now, I keep hearing the Giants are. Mark it down, Dallas will beat the G-Men Monday night. If there was ever a year a 1-4 team could make noise this it it fellas. Do or die and I guarantee a victory Monday night WATCH!

I with you playa...2-4 after we dismantle the "Best" team in the NFC. With the way the refs have been throwing flags, Vegas giving Dallas the line....America believes they are due. Dallas in a big, big win at home.28-17 How bout dem Cowboys!!!!

Aim high.

 

[Nightly Mistake]

Seriously, I don't know when this happened, but...What is it that makes one particular poster so proud about a single playoff win? Why should that be logged on the positive side of the equation? Isn't that sort of a negative, given what they have had 13, 9, and 11 win seasons the last 3 years?I am not optimistic that we have the talent or discipline to string together enough wins to make the playoffs, but if it starts, this week is as must-win as any playoff game.What a disaster.

Reading comprehension down? I am simply pointing out the fallacy of classifying Wade as anything less than average. He has had 1 losing season in 8 years coaching yet 75% of posters here want to classify him as the worst in the NFL. But please dont let logic stop your argument that Wade is lost, incompetent, etc.

Can you think of a coach who has accomplished less with more talent than Wade has over the last three years? I sure can't, especially accounting for injuries - the Cowboys have been one of the healthier and more stable rosters in the league over that period of time. Wade blows. He doesn't assist the team in reaching its potential, which has everything to do with postseason. Regular season records mean next to nothing . . . unless you start 1-4 with a roster you're talking about "hosting a Super Bowl".

 

[BigDave]

Expectations are always HIGH for the Cowboys, every year and every game.

If you have the talent/luck/health/coaching etc.. you meet those expectations.

We are obviously not this year and haven't for several years now.

- I think it's obvious the players are playing below their level of talent. Not sure how much of that is chemistry, preparedness or lack of confidence.

- They have a soft head coach that's really a defensive co-ordinator. There's no accountability IMO.

- They have an offensive co-ordinator that is often predictable. (Not the genious everyone thought 3 years ago)

- The players almost expect that something is going to go wrong, not go right! That's not a good attitude.

Can they salvage this season - YES. Play better, get wins, develop players, develop confidence etc..

Will that mean the playoffs - NO!

It's 2011 that I'm looking forward to now and hoping they are competitive the rest of 2010.

 

[Rick James]

Im curious to know how the coaching staff who led Dallas to thier first playoff victory in 10+ years in 2009 is suddenly the root of all the problems. Another thing I would like to add is that even though it was maddening to see flare passes time after time to Felix, Garrett did this to offset the advantage that the Vikings d-line had. Garrett is far from ######ed and his gameplans could actually work if not for the penalties or stupid plays (like Free not getting out of his stance). Its maddening to watch this team find ways to lose each week, especially after being up at halftime and in control of the game. Good to hear that Kosier is only out 1-3 weeks, I thought it may be season ending.

So a playoff win - one - is the mark of an acceptable coaching staff to you regarding a team that considers itself a Super Bowl caliber team? What makes you think the coaches "led them" to that win, anyway?

No of course not, im simply asking the question how can Wade suddenly be such a loser coach when he has won NFC East 2 out of past 3 years and won a playoff game. Wade finished better than 24 coaches last year. By no means am I giving him a free pass for this years performance, rather im trying to keep a levelhead about the 2010 demise.

In exactly what competition did "Wade finish better than 24 coaches last year"? A pie-eating contest? The team is who played those games. The team is talented and beat a relatively weak division last year. I don't think Wade has ever added a thing to that team as a head coach - as a defensive coordinator maybe, but not as head coach.

And why are you cherry-picking last year anyway? Are you in love with that first playoff win in 13 years so much that that inspires hero worship of Wade Freaking Phillips?

Honestly, raise your standards a bit- wait. Don't raise your standards. You'll always be easily impressed if you don't.

You could just as easily say "the team is who is 1-4 right now".

 

[Texasmouth]

Name two coaches that you would NOT replace Wade Phillips with in the NFL right now.

1. Tom Cable

2. ????

Cant think of one other than Cable.

 

[simmonjm]

Name two coaches that you would NOT replace Wade Phillips with in the NFL right now. 1. Tom Cable2. ????Cant think of one other than Cable.

SingletaryLovie SmithBrad ChildressMike SmithRaheem MorrisJohn FoxSpagsPete CarrollSopranoChan GaileyManginiMarvin LewisDel Rio

 

[Texasmouth]

Name two coaches that you would NOT replace Wade Phillips with in the NFL right now. 1. Tom Cable2. ????Cant think of one other than Cable.

SingletaryLovie SmithBrad ChildressMike SmithRaheem MorrisJohn FoxSpagsPete CarrollSopranoChan GaileyManginiMarvin LewisDel Rio

OK. Point taken.

 

[Urinal Mint]

The drafting credit goes primarily to Jeff Ireland who Parcells brought on board and who followed him to Miami. Since Ireland left (except for the first draft only a few months after Ireland left and that was based primarily upon his draft prep) the drafting hasn't been the same. Last year's "special teams draft" for example was a disaster. Jerry has a decade of bad drafting after Jimmy Johnson left, and then the last couple of years have been relatively poor IMHO too. For example, even if Dez Bryant works out, the failure to draft an OL still warrants criticism given how fundamental those problems are for the offense - it's not like they really needed another WR.

The draft is a crap shoot and yes the "special teams" draft is looking less than stellar but I give Jerry credit for this haul in 2008: Felix Jones, Martellus Bennet, Mike Jenkins, Tashard Choice, Orlando Scandrick, Erick Walden. Only Walden did not make the team. That draft was amazingly good.

Not sure I'd call it a good draft. Choice doesn't play. Bennett wouldn't play if he wasn't pressed into service (waste of a 2nd rounder). Felix Jones should've been Rashard Mendenhall. Mike Jenkins was great in '09 and a flag machine in '10.Just another weak draft with guys either not making the team or not making an impact. Jerry keeps picking players that don't push incumbent starters for playing time.

 

[simmonjm]

The drafting credit goes primarily to Jeff Ireland who Parcells brought on board and who followed him to Miami. Since Ireland left (except for the first draft only a few months after Ireland left and that was based primarily upon his draft prep) the drafting hasn't been the same. Last year's "special teams draft" for example was a disaster. Jerry has a decade of bad drafting after Jimmy Johnson left, and then the last couple of years have been relatively poor IMHO too. For example, even if Dez Bryant works out, the failure to draft an OL still warrants criticism given how fundamental those problems are for the offense - it's not like they really needed another WR.

The draft is a crap shoot and yes the "special teams" draft is looking less than stellar but I give Jerry credit for this haul in 2008: Felix Jones, Martellus Bennet, Mike Jenkins, Tashard Choice, Orlando Scandrick, Erick Walden. Only Walden did not make the team. That draft was amazingly good.

Not sure I'd call it a good draft. Choice doesn't play. Bennett wouldn't play if he wasn't pressed into service (waste of a 2nd rounder). Felix Jones should've been Rashard Mendenhall. Mike Jenkins was great in '09 and a flag machine in '10.Just another weak draft with guys either not making the team or not making an impact. Jerry keeps picking players that don't push incumbent starters for playing time.

If you dont call this a good draft you have some very high or unrealisitic standards. Bennett is a HUGE part of the Dallas offense. He is a great blocker and ok WR. Without Bennett Dallas would not be able to run their base offensive set double TE. Choice has shown he can play and is better than alot of the RB picks in recent memory (he is an example of drafting for BPA rather than need). Getting the #2 and #3 CB of the future in a single draft is a coup. I realize Felix had higher expectations but no way do I trade him for Medenhall. He was the lone homerun threat for this offense last year before Dez and Miles emerged. He stretches the defense and forces the defense to take note of his position.