*** Official 2010 Philadelphia Eagles Thread *** (1 Viewer)

[Jason Wood]

With the promise of an uncapped year...

How do you think that would effect the Eagles personel decisions?I didn't think there would be much impact since they have historically flown well below the cap anyway but I could be wrong.

I think you're right Lehigh in that the Eagles have always been fiscally disciplined in spite of being a high revenue team. While it's a HUGE part of what's made them consistently successful, it's also always been a thorn in fans' sides, who want to see their team max out the budget as a sign that the ownership wants to win above all else. I suspect the Eagles will largely go about their business based on a plan, and a budget. I think they'll do absolutely nothing that they feel would hamstring them once a new CBA is ratified. And I suspect this will likely bother/confound a lot of fans as other teams pay huge dollars to marginal free agents.

As an aside, I was wondering... If we had an upcapped year and a team went out and Yankee'd it up by signing multiple free agents to lucrative long term deals, how would the NFL then reign that back in if they could get a cap back?

I'm admittedly not 100% up to speed on all the machinations, but my understanding is that the uncapped year has so many rules in place that the likelihood of more than a few teams blowing out the bank is minimal. And for those who do, they will be expected to conform to whatever cap rules are put in place upon the ratification of a new CBA, with provisions included that likely give them more than one season to get themselves back into compliance.

 

[Amused to Death]

With the promise of an uncapped year...

How do you think that would effect the Eagles personel decisions?I didn't think there would be much impact since they have historically flown well below the cap anyway but I could be wrong.

I think you're right Lehigh in that the Eagles have always been fiscally disciplined in spite of being a high revenue team. While it's a HUGE part of what's made them consistently successful, it's also always been a thorn in fans' sides, who want to see their team max out the budget as a sign that the ownership wants to win above all else. I suspect the Eagles will largely go about their business based on a plan, and a budget. I think they'll do absolutely nothing that they feel would hamstring them once a new CBA is ratified. And I suspect this will likely bother/confound a lot of fans as other teams pay huge dollars to marginal free agents.

As an aside, I was wondering... If we had an upcapped year and a team went out and Yankee'd it up by signing multiple free agents to lucrative long term deals, how would the NFL then reign that back in if they could get a cap back?

I'm admittedly not 100% up to speed on all the machinations, but my understanding is that the uncapped year has so many rules in place that the likelihood of more than a few teams blowing out the bank is minimal. And for those who do, they will be expected to conform to whatever cap rules are put in place upon the ratification of a new CBA, with provisions included that likely give them more than one season to get themselves back into compliance.

I wonder how much resistance the NFLPA will put up on a new cap. In 2007 they vowed never to agree to one again. Could we be looking at a potential long-term work stoppage in '11?

 

[Jason Wood]

I wonder how much resistance the NFLPA will put up on a new cap. In 2007 they vowed never to agree to one again. Could we be looking at a potential long-term work stoppage in '11?

The NFLPA isn't going to endorse a strike, the more likely scenario is a lock out by ownership.Remember, next year in an uncapped year the league owners don't have to contribute monies the usually do to a host of player related endeavors including 401Ks, severance, player annuities, and tuition and career training reimbursement. All in, players are going to lose more than $250 million this year in DIRECT NFL PAYMENTS that aren't going to ever be recovered. Also, more than 200 players that would've been unrestricted free agents will now be restricted free agents, thus guaranteeing almost all of them far smaller contracts and precious little chance of big guaranteed money. As if that wasn't incentive enough, it's expected that a lot more teams will go BELOW the old salary cap floor than spend freely. Some estimates put 2010 salaries at $300-$400mm lower than 2009, as owners curtail spending to direct cash flows toward paying down their huge debts related to stadium financings.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

I wonder how much resistance the NFLPA will put up on a new cap. In 2007 they vowed never to agree to one again. Could we be looking at a potential long-term work stoppage in '11?

The NFLPA isn't going to endorse a strike, the more likely scenario is a lock out by ownership.Remember, next year in an uncapped year the league owners don't have to contribute monies the usually do to a host of player related endeavors including 401Ks, severance, player annuities, and tuition and career training reimbursement. All in, players are going to lose more than $250 million this year in DIRECT NFL PAYMENTS that aren't going to ever be recovered. Also, more than 200 players that would've been unrestricted free agents will now be restricted free agents, thus guaranteeing almost all of them far smaller contracts and precious little chance of big guaranteed money.

As if that wasn't incentive enough, it's expected that a lot more teams will go BELOW the old salary cap floor than spend freely. Some estimates put 2010 salaries at $300-$400mm lower than 2009, as owners curtail spending to direct cash flows toward paying down their huge debts related to stadium financings.

This is what I think most people are missing, along with a Salary Cap comes a Salary Floor. I am very curious to see how many teams will spend less on their player salaries than they did in the prior seasons.

 

[Jason Wood]

I wonder how much resistance the NFLPA will put up on a new cap. In 2007 they vowed never to agree to one again. Could we be looking at a potential long-term work stoppage in '11?

The NFLPA isn't going to endorse a strike, the more likely scenario is a lock out by ownership.Remember, next year in an uncapped year the league owners don't have to contribute monies the usually do to a host of player related endeavors including 401Ks, severance, player annuities, and tuition and career training reimbursement. All in, players are going to lose more than $250 million this year in DIRECT NFL PAYMENTS that aren't going to ever be recovered. Also, more than 200 players that would've been unrestricted free agents will now be restricted free agents, thus guaranteeing almost all of them far smaller contracts and precious little chance of big guaranteed money.

As if that wasn't incentive enough, it's expected that a lot more teams will go BELOW the old salary cap floor than spend freely. Some estimates put 2010 salaries at $300-$400mm lower than 2009, as owners curtail spending to direct cash flows toward paying down their huge debts related to stadium financings.

This is what I think most people are missing, along with a Salary Cap comes a Salary Floor. I am very curious to see how many teams will spend less on their player salaries than they did in the prior seasons.

I think at least a majority, if not the vast majority. And that's just salaries. Every team is going to be spending about $7-$8mm less on players through all the aforementioned benefit programs that won't be funded this year.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

I wonder how much resistance the NFLPA will put up on a new cap. In 2007 they vowed never to agree to one again. Could we be looking at a potential long-term work stoppage in '11?

The NFLPA isn't going to endorse a strike, the more likely scenario is a lock out by ownership.Remember, next year in an uncapped year the league owners don't have to contribute monies the usually do to a host of player related endeavors including 401Ks, severance, player annuities, and tuition and career training reimbursement. All in, players are going to lose more than $250 million this year in DIRECT NFL PAYMENTS that aren't going to ever be recovered. Also, more than 200 players that would've been unrestricted free agents will now be restricted free agents, thus guaranteeing almost all of them far smaller contracts and precious little chance of big guaranteed money.

As if that wasn't incentive enough, it's expected that a lot more teams will go BELOW the old salary cap floor than spend freely. Some estimates put 2010 salaries at $300-$400mm lower than 2009, as owners curtail spending to direct cash flows toward paying down their huge debts related to stadium financings.

This is what I think most people are missing, along with a Salary Cap comes a Salary Floor. I am very curious to see how many teams will spend less on their player salaries than they did in the prior seasons.

I think at least a majority, if not the vast majority. And that's just salaries. Every team is going to be spending about $7-$8mm less on players through all the aforementioned benefit programs that won't be funded this year.

But how much do you think think player salaries will drop? I understand the number of programs that will be effected, but I am more interested in seeing what they do with the salary numbers that would effect their salary cap (if there was one).

 

[Billy Bats]

Kurt Warner retires, the Cards need a QB, sooooo...

McNabb for Boldin?

 

[Jason Wood]

I wonder how much resistance the NFLPA will put up on a new cap. In 2007 they vowed never to agree to one again. Could we be looking at a potential long-term work stoppage in '11?

The NFLPA isn't going to endorse a strike, the more likely scenario is a lock out by ownership.Remember, next year in an uncapped year the league owners don't have to contribute monies the usually do to a host of player related endeavors including 401Ks, severance, player annuities, and tuition and career training reimbursement. All in, players are going to lose more than $250 million this year in DIRECT NFL PAYMENTS that aren't going to ever be recovered. Also, more than 200 players that would've been unrestricted free agents will now be restricted free agents, thus guaranteeing almost all of them far smaller contracts and precious little chance of big guaranteed money.

As if that wasn't incentive enough, it's expected that a lot more teams will go BELOW the old salary cap floor than spend freely. Some estimates put 2010 salaries at $300-$400mm lower than 2009, as owners curtail spending to direct cash flows toward paying down their huge debts related to stadium financings.

This is what I think most people are missing, along with a Salary Cap comes a Salary Floor. I am very curious to see how many teams will spend less on their player salaries than they did in the prior seasons.

I think at least a majority, if not the vast majority. And that's just salaries. Every team is going to be spending about $7-$8mm less on players through all the aforementioned benefit programs that won't be funded this year.

But how much do you think think player salaries will drop? I understand the number of programs that will be effected, but I am more interested in seeing what they do with the salary numbers that would effect their salary cap (if there was one).

It's a great question. I honestly don't know the answer to that until we see it in practice.

 

[Domination]

Kurt Warner retires, the Cards need a QB, sooooo...McNabb for Boldin?

I can't see that happening. Djax & Maclin are the future. I think it will involve picks, although I would be interested in Dansby. But I don't see the Eagles investing that kind of $ in a LB.

 

[Zoomanji]

Kurt Warner retires, the Cards need a QB, sooooo...McNabb for Boldin?

How about Kolb for Fitz?Or would we be giving up too much there?

 

[Billy Bats]

Kurt Warner retires, the Cards need a QB, sooooo...

McNabb for Boldin?

How about Kolb for Fitz?Or would we be giving up too much there?

Is McNabb for Boldin that ridiculous?

 

[GoBirds]

Kurt Warner retires, the Cards need a QB, sooooo...McNabb for Boldin?

They need to do something with Leinart's learning curve maybe he will be ready by 2016.

 

[scratcher]

Kurt Warner retires, the Cards need a QB, sooooo...McNabb for Boldin?

Too many other holes to fill other than WR IMO. I'd settle for a 1st and a 3rd

 

[Jason Wood]

McNabb not going anywhere

 

[dhockster]

McNabb not going anywhere

Oh, Yeah, after reading that, McNabb is definitely gone.

 

[Pickle Rody]

All psychic predictions aside, I believe McNabb will remain with the Eagles for 2010. I also believe the front office will get the best value for Vick or Kolb, whichever they decide to deal away. Personally, I hope they get great value for Vick and hang onto Kolb. I would hate to see Kolb move on to another team after the Eagles bred him to be a NFL starter.

Just my

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

On Sirius this afternoon Pat Kirwan said that he expects McNabb to be traded. He believes the timing is right and with a weak QB class / Veteran QB Free Agents, that the Eagles will get a couple very good offers that will push them to make the deal.

 

[Jason Wood]

On Sirius this afternoon Pat Kirwan said that he expects McNabb to be traded. He believes the timing is right and with a weak QB class / Veteran QB Free Agents, that the Eagles will get a couple very good offers that will push them to make the deal.

Ah yes, Mr. Kirwan has Jeffrey, Andy and Joe on speed dial.

 

[Billy Bats]

Kurt Warner retires, the Cards need a QB, sooooo...McNabb for Boldin?

Too many other holes to fill other than WR IMO. I'd settle for a 1st and a 3rd

Oh I agree, but if we're scoring 45 a game with that fleet of WR's, who cares about our LB and DE problems?! Although I think a 1 and 3 for #5 is shooting real high.

 

[CaptainHook]

"I have a psychic and she told me; she said, 'Good things are to happen in Philadelphia and it's going to be really good for you,' " McNabb said while doing his best Jamaican psychic impersonation. " 'Just relax. You'll get what you need.'

i think the psychic is implying hes going to get traded away but will sign a fat contract.

 

[scratcher]

Kurt Warner retires, the Cards need a QB, sooooo...McNabb for Boldin?

Too many other holes to fill other than WR IMO. I'd settle for a 1st and a 3rd

Oh I agree, but if we're scoring 45 a game with that fleet of WR's, who cares about our LB and DE problems?! Although I think a 1 and 3 for #5 is shooting real high.

Was kidding about the 1 and 3, I would hope at least a 1 tho.

 

[Jason Wood]

I'll keep saying it, just because fans want McNabb gone, doesn't mean he's going.

 

[Amused to Death]

I'll keep saying it, just because fans want McNabb gone, doesn't mean he's going.

Not the fans, but if you believe Deranged Hermit Kolb has supporters in high places as well. I'm certainly not saying McNabb will be gone, but you can't be blind to the possibility it can happen. Just because the organization says it won't doesn't mean they are telling the truth. I think the Eagles QB situation is far from settled for 2010.And when the Eagles do make the change it won't be because the fans demand it. Its because the organization wants it. The fans did not draft Kolb to be the successor.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

I'll keep saying it, just because fans want McNabb gone, doesn't mean he's going.

Not the fans, but if you believe Deranged Hermit Kolb has supporters in high places as well. I'm certainly not saying McNabb will be gone, but you can't be blind to the possibility it can happen. Just because the organization says it won't doesn't mean they are telling the truth. I think the Eagles QB situation is far from settled for 2010.And when the Eagles do make the change it won't be because the fans demand it. Its because the organization wants it. The fans did not draft Kolb to be the successor.

Kirwan mentioned that he had talked to several coaches that believe Kolb has some great leadership ability and that they think they can be a winning team with him right off the bat while they move the team in the new direction.

 

[Zoomanji]

On Sirius this afternoon Pat Kirwan said that he expects McNabb to be traded. He believes the timing is right and with a weak QB class / Veteran QB Free Agents, that the Eagles will get a couple very good offers that will push them to make the deal.

Doubtful. Adam Schein claimed earlier in the day that there was "no way" that McNabb would be traded. And really who are you gonna believe? The guy who isn't inside the Eagles organization or the guy who isn't inside the Eagles organization? Seriously, this thread is so full of "this is what I want to happen so it will" its unbearable.

 

[vinwinephans]

I'll keep saying it, just because fans want McNabb gone, doesn't mean he's going.

Seriously, this thread is so full of "this is what I want to happen so it will" its unbearable.

Not sure what is exactly bothering you two so much. Do you not like speculation? The off-season is filled with it. The discussion will range from what we think the FO should do, what they have historically done, what we would like them to do.This sort of speculation will rage on all off-season regarding potential trades, free agent signings and who they might draft.No one knows for sure. All that is in here are peoples' desires/opinions. I don't take them for anything more than that.If you just accept the discussion for what it is, it won't bother you much. Otherwise, shut the thread down until some news breaks and we can discuss the news. How exciting...

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

I'll keep saying it, just because fans want McNabb gone, doesn't mean he's going.

Seriously, this thread is so full of "this is what I want to happen so it will" its unbearable.

Not sure what is exactly bothering you two so much. Do you not like speculation? The off-season is filled with it. The discussion will range from what we think the FO should do, what they have historically done, what we would like them to do.This sort of speculation will rage on all off-season regarding potential trades, free agent signings and who they might draft.No one knows for sure. All that is in here are peoples' desires/opinions. I don't take them for anything more than that.If you just accept the discussion for what it is, it won't bother you much. Otherwise, shut the thread down until some news breaks and we can discuss the news. How exciting...

Yes, lets not talk about ifs and whens so that this thread is about as exciting as the ***Official Buffalo Bills Off Season Thread***

 

[Jason Wood]

I'll keep saying it, just because fans want McNabb gone, doesn't mean he's going.

Seriously, this thread is so full of "this is what I want to happen so it will" its unbearable.

Not sure what is exactly bothering you two so much. Do you not like speculation? The off-season is filled with it. The discussion will range from what we think the FO should do, what they have historically done, what we would like them to do.This sort of speculation will rage on all off-season regarding potential trades, free agent signings and who they might draft.No one knows for sure. All that is in here are peoples' desires/opinions. I don't take them for anything more than that.If you just accept the discussion for what it is, it won't bother you much. Otherwise, shut the thread down until some news breaks and we can discuss the news. How exciting...

By all means, speculate away.

 

[vinwinephans]

Speaking of McNabb - #4 on USA Today's All-Decade Team.

I really don't know what the Eagles will do.

If I had to bet, I'd bet on Kolb getting traded because I don't know what Reid really thinks of McNabb vs Kolb. If Reid even thinks Kolb could be a good QB/Leader, I'd like Reid to move on and apply their standard strategy to QB same as they have to every other position - in with the young and capable, out with the old and declining.

All that said, McNabb definately has accomplished a lot in his career - so far.

Link

Donovan McNabb: With a strong arm and brawny legs, the strapping, mobile signal-caller has been the Philadelphia Eagles' full-time starter since 2000.

McNabb, 33, quarterbacked the team to four consecutive NFC championship games from '01-'04, plus an additional conference title game in '08. He is the Eagles' all-time passing leader in attempts, completions, yards and touchdowns.

A five-time Pro Bowl selection, McNabb was the NFC's Offensive Player of the Year in 2004 after throwing 31 TDs and only eight interceptions with a career-best 104.7 QB rating.

 

[CaptainHook]

anyone who has been a fan of the eagles should know what the organization does with players who demonstrate even the slightest hint of being past their prime

bye mcnabb

 

[Pickle Rody]

anyone who has been a fan of the eagles should know what the organization does with players who demonstrate even the slightest hint of being past their prime

bye mcnabb

I don't believe McNabb has done this. I would say Mcnabb is in his prime right now and not yet past it. For the most part he played very well all year and just had one of his best statistical season's as a professional.

 

[Zoomanji]

anyone who has been a fan of the eagles should know what the organization does with players who demonstrate even the slightest hint of being past their primebye mcnabb

QB is a totally different issue.In the Eagles quest to always get value, Kolb will be dealt. Its simple really despite what you hear on WIP. McNabb has no value in a trade Kolb does.Nice knowing you Kevin

 

[vinwinephans]

anyone who has been a fan of the eagles should know what the organization does with players who demonstrate even the slightest hint of being past their primebye mcnabb

QB is a totally different issue.In the Eagles quest to always get value, Kolb will be dealt. Its simple really despite what you hear on WIP. McNabb has no value in a trade Kolb does.Nice knowing you Kevin

Not saying your wrong, but following this line of thinking, why does Kolb fetch more value in a trade then McNabb? Is Kolb worth more than McNabb? And if Kolb is the more valuable option on the trade market, why would the Eagles want to keep McNabb over him?

 

[CaptainHook]

anyone who has been a fan of the eagles should know what the organization does with players who demonstrate even the slightest hint of being past their primebye mcnabb

QB is a totally different issue.In the Eagles quest to always get value, Kolb will be dealt. Its simple really despite what you hear on WIP. McNabb has no value in a trade Kolb does.Nice knowing you Kevin

if you think the eagles have a history of trading guys... ???i can only think of lito sheppard ever being traded and it had nothing to do with value it was simply because they didnt want himwhen the eagles sign a guy its because they want him to play.

 

[Lehigh98]

anyone who has been a fan of the eagles should know what the organization does with players who demonstrate even the slightest hint of being past their prime

bye mcnabb

I don't believe McNabb has done this. I would say Mcnabb is in his prime right now and not yet past it. For the most part he played very well all year until it mattered and just had one of his best statistical season's as a professional.

Fixed... same old, same old from #5.

 

[Domination]

From the discussion about the Lito Sheppard trade. We received a 5th in 2009 and a 4th in 2010. The 4th could go as high as a second based on playing time, but this didn't happen. The Eagles are loaded with picks in the middle of the draft.

Here is a link to traded draft picks with explanations

Traded Draft Picks

 

[ReggieHammond]

From the discussion about the Lito Sheppard trade. We received a 5th in 2009 and a 4th in 2010. The 4th could go as high as a second based on playing time, but this didn't happen. The Eagles are loaded with picks in the middle of the draft.

Here is a link to traded draft picks with explanations

Traded Draft Picks

I really don't think that is correct, getting a 2010 pick was reliant on him still being with the Jets for the 2010 season which he won't be.

 

[zadok]

From the discussion about the Lito Sheppard trade. We received a 5th in 2009 and a 4th in 2010. The 4th could go as high as a second based on playing time, but this didn't happen. The Eagles are loaded with picks in the middle of the draft.

Here is a link to traded draft picks with explanations

Traded Draft Picks

I really don't think that is correct, getting a 2010 pick was reliant on him still being with the Jets for the 2010 season which he won't be.

That doesn't make any sense dude. The 2010 draft occurs before the 2010 season. We have their 4th.

 

[ReggieHammond]

From the discussion about the Lito Sheppard trade. We received a 5th in 2009 and a 4th in 2010. The 4th could go as high as a second based on playing time, but this didn't happen. The Eagles are loaded with picks in the middle of the draft.

Here is a link to traded draft picks with explanations

Traded Draft Picks

I really don't think that is correct, getting a 2010 pick was reliant on him still being with the Jets for the 2010 season which he won't be.

That doesn't make any sense dude. The 2010 draft occurs before the 2010 season. We have their 4th.

Yes and free agency starts before the 2010 draft, if the Jets don't take up the 10 Mil option on his contract before FA starts he becomes a free agent which equals no pick for Philly.

 

[Zoomanji]

anyone who has been a fan of the eagles should know what the organization does with players who demonstrate even the slightest hint of being past their primebye mcnabb

QB is a totally different issue.In the Eagles quest to always get value, Kolb will be dealt. Its simple really despite what you hear on WIP. McNabb has no value in a trade Kolb does.Nice knowing you Kevin

Not saying your wrong, but following this line of thinking, why does Kolb fetch more value in a trade then McNabb? Is Kolb worth more than McNabb? And if Kolb is the more valuable option on the trade market, why would the Eagles want to keep McNabb over him?

AgeKolb and Vick would both bring in a higher pick than McNabb

 

[E-A-G-L-E-S]

anyone who has been a fan of the eagles should know what the organization does with players who demonstrate even the slightest hint of being past their primebye mcnabb

QB is a totally different issue.In the Eagles quest to always get value, Kolb will be dealt. Its simple really despite what you hear on WIP. McNabb has no value in a trade Kolb does.Nice knowing you Kevin

Not saying your wrong, but following this line of thinking, why does Kolb fetch more value in a trade then McNabb? Is Kolb worth more than McNabb? And if Kolb is the more valuable option on the trade market, why would the Eagles want to keep McNabb over him?

AgeKolb and Vick would both bring in a higher pick than McNabb

Vick is an avg QB at best and now slower, no way he would be worth a higher pick then McNabb.

 

[Gopher State]

kolb or McNabb I can see the Eagles getting good value. Especially if Favre stays retired, Chilly will give the Eagles 1 round pick. I like Kolb also.

But Vick, I be shocked if the Eagles can get anything for him. He's not a very good QB, and best used as a wildcat player.

Some people think the Rams would like Vick, but why, their years away from being a good team, and I be shocked if they would give up any picks.

McNabb to the Vikings I vote for that trade.

 

[Bob Magaw]

imo, it would be nice to parlay kolb into filling a short term hole (like LB?)...

but this may be shortsighted (LBs are very fungible in eagles system, like the colts)...

trading him away might leave a bigger long-term hole (heir apparent QB to mcnabb) than any other they would hope to fill by trading away kolb...

it seems like during the reid era, they have been built to suceed in the short AND long term...

i don't see kolb being traded (unless reid has soured on him... but breaking the NFL record with 300 yard passing games in his first two starts MUST have at least piqued his interest)...

 

[Amused to Death]

imo, it would be nice to parlay kolb into filling a short term hole (like LB?)...but this may be shortsighted (LBs are very fungible in eagles system, like the colts)...trading him away might leave a bigger long-term hole (heir apparent QB to mcnabb) than any other they would hope to fill by trading away kolb...it seems like during the reid era, they have been built to suceed in the short AND long term...i don't see kolb being traded (unless reid has soured on him... but breaking the NFL record with 300 yard passing games in his first two starts MUST have at least piqued his interest)...

I think the trade value order would be McNabb/Kolb/Vick. I don't know if either McNabb or Kolb get traded, but its my opinion that trading Kolb for one more year of McNabb sets the organization back years. I say that because the team is more than a player or two away from being true SB contenders. I'd rather see them go 7-9 next year if it means the youth start to mature together. That to me is worth giving up another year of contending and falling short. Maybe Kolb fails miserably, but at least they would know what they have and plan accordingly. They know what they have in McNabb and that's "warning track power". Pretty close, but can't quite reach the fence.That's assuming '10 is McNabb's last in Philly. If #5 does sign an extension then they are a living example of Banner's definition of insanity.

 

[CaptainHook]

i don't really get why people seem to actually think it's impossible for mcnabb to win the super bowl.

That said, he's not a great QB, his best games are behind him, this team doesn't look like a super bowl contender; it's time to move on.

 

[G-King]

I'll keep saying it, just because fans want McNabb gone, doesn't mean he's going.

Seriously, this thread is so full of "this is what I want to happen so it will" its unbearable.

Not sure what is exactly bothering you two so much. Do you not like speculation? The off-season is filled with it. The discussion will range from what we think the FO should do, what they have historically done, what we would like them to do.This sort of speculation will rage on all off-season regarding potential trades, free agent signings and who they might draft.No one knows for sure. All that is in here are peoples' desires/opinions. I don't take them for anything more than that.If you just accept the discussion for what it is, it won't bother you much. Otherwise, shut the thread down until some news breaks and we can discuss the news. How exciting...

By all means, speculate away. I dont want to get in the middle of what you guys got going on but I am very close friends with someone in the organization and I can tell you that it is set up for Kolb to start, DMac to be traded, and Vick getting serious interest from the Rams. This info has been known for weeks now- with the exception of the Vick info getting very serious on Friday. Unless Donovan brings absolutley nothing in value (which is highly unlikely since he is still a good QB) KK is your man in Philly. Period.Now if DMac wont bring value then all bets are off.... But again I think he has good, servicable skills for a team in need NOW. DMAC might want to sue Miss Cleo for malpractice.

 

[TheWheel]

Kolb will not get traded. He is the franchise QB now. McNabb could field a first rounder or a second rounder and a future first. I don't see Vicks value honestly.

The Eagles are going to be sooo young on offense.

 

[dhockster]

I'll keep saying it, just because fans want McNabb gone, doesn't mean he's going.

Seriously, this thread is so full of "this is what I want to happen so it will" its unbearable.

Not sure what is exactly bothering you two so much. Do you not like speculation? The off-season is filled with it. The discussion will range from what we think the FO should do, what they have historically done, what we would like them to do.This sort of speculation will rage on all off-season regarding potential trades, free agent signings and who they might draft.No one knows for sure. All that is in here are peoples' desires/opinions. I don't take them for anything more than that.If you just accept the discussion for what it is, it won't bother you much. Otherwise, shut the thread down until some news breaks and we can discuss the news. How exciting...

By all means, speculate away. I dont want to get in the middle of what you guys got going on but I am very close friends with someone in the organization and I can tell you that it is set up for Kolb to start, DMac to be traded, and Vick getting serious interest from the Rams. This info has been known for weeks now- with the exception of the Vick info getting very serious on Friday. Unless Donovan brings absolutley nothing in value (which is highly unlikely since he is still a good QB) KK is your man in Philly. Period.Now if DMac wont bring value then all bets are off.... But again I think he has good, servicable skills for a team in need NOW. DMAC might want to sue Miss Cleo for malpractice.

I don't think he can sue, because this is what she said "Good things are to happen in Philadelphia and it's going to be really good for you". So McNabb gets traded (let's say to the Vikings), the Eagles win so Good things happen in Philadelphia, and McNabb does well in Minnesota so it's really good for McNabb. Everyone's happy and the Psychic was right.

 

[Zoomanji]

You guys who think the Eagles are going to get a 1st or even a 2nd round pick for McNabb are nuts. :(

Too much WIP melts your brains

 

[Jason Wood]

You guys who think the Eagles are going to get a 1st or even a 2nd round pick for McNabb are nuts. Too much WIP melts your brains

Which is why he's not getting traded. BTW, for every "insider" on either side of this debate, there's another "insider" who says differently. Len P from ESPN in his latest column (I would quote it but it's Insider so I don't feel right about that) says that a very high ranking senior official within the Eagles organization said that all the trade talk is noise and said that "the odds are pretty good he isn't going anywhere, it's just all talk."