*** Official 2010 Philadelphia Eagles Thread *** (1 Viewer)

[datonn]

Sorry Derek, I'm being 100% truthful. If we trade McNabb for the 2.06 straight up, with no other considerations, I will give up my season tickets.

Really? Wow then...I guess I'll stand corrected. I suppose I could see that. I told many people back in the early 1990s that if Major League Baseball went on strike, I'd never pay for another ticket to any professional baseball game. 15-16 years later, I never have...and I am a person who WORSHIPED MLB and the Minnesota Twins back in the 1980s/1990s. I've been to 2-3 games during those 15-16 years, but only for free...when someone offered me a free ticket.I wouldn't protest something as trivial as a player or roster spot though. For me, I'd save those grand, message-sending gestures for important things. Like the economics of a sport destroying itself and/or adding substantially to the public debt. If the Vikings announced this afternoon that they've traded Adrian Peterson to the Patriots for a #2 pick, I'd be HOT. However, I'd still be at Camp, and I'd still watch all their games. Until they leave for Los Angeles, anyway...

 

[Jason Wood]

Sorry Derek, I'm being 100% truthful. If we trade McNabb for the 2.06 straight up, with no other considerations, I will give up my season tickets.

Really? Wow then...I guess I'll stand corrected. I suppose I could see that. I told many people back in the early 1990s that if Major League Baseball went on strike, I'd never pay for another ticket to any professional baseball game. 15-16 years later, I never have...and I am a person who WORSHIPED MLB and the Minnesota Twins back in the 1980s/1990s. I've been to 2-3 games during those 15-16 years, but only for free...when someone offered me a free ticket.I wouldn't protest something as trivial as a player or roster spot though. For me, I'd save those grand, message-sending gestures for important things. Like the economics of a sport destroying itself and/or adding substantially to the public debt. If the Vikings announced this afternoon that they've traded Adrian Peterson to the Patriots for a #2 pick, I'd be HOT. However, I'd still be at Camp, and I'd still watch all their games. Until they leave for Los Angeles, anyway...

Sure. And I accept that trading McNabb is a possibility. But I also think I have a pretty good handle on what Philly thinks of draft picks, and what they expect in return for assets. Do I think they would trade McNabb? Seems like it's at least a potentiality. Do I think Reid would lose his franchise cornerstone (remember, Reid still makes all the calls) for a 2nd round pick? No, I really put that as a LOW LOW probability event.And if they traded him for even less than the 2.06? Well a) I wouldn't have to give up my season tickets because that's not what I said I would do and b ) I would be so aghast that I probably couldn't bring myself to discuss the Eagles in a forum for a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG TIME.

 

[Ignatius Reilly]

And I'm asking you why you feel that getting anything at this point for McNabb is a bad thing, especially a high second pick.

Because I don't think the 2.06 is enough return for what we're giving up, which is likely 10+ wins and a very good shot at a playoff run in 2010.

Jason, this team is going nowhere next year with the current state of this defense. Obviously based on todays signing there is next to nothing in the FA market to fill in the enormous gaps they have at saftey, pass rushing DE and LB. You saw what Dallas did to this team the last two games of the year, the gap is LARGE. This was an 11 win team largely on the ridiciolous big play production they got out of DeSean Jackson. We are going on year 12 of the Andy Reid era and we have nothing to show for it yet another 10-11 win season with no possibility of winning a SuperBowl with a QB that could care less eitehr way is acceptable for you?. I couldn't dole McNabb fast enough for 2.06 - Best Defensive draft in 20 years they're saying.Obvisouly it's your opinion and you have every right to it, but if they can let Dawkins walk with absoltuely nothing as a adequate backup then why the hell not get a high pick for McNabb and let the 25 year old you groomed for this spot take it over

You want another year of this nonsense? The second I saw him do this, I knew we were dead. Time to turn the page bro

 

[TCFF]

And I'm asking you why you feel that getting anything at this point for McNabb is a bad thing, especially a high second pick.

Because I don't think the 2.06 is enough return for what we're giving up, which is likely 10+ wins and a very good shot at a playoff run in 2010.

Jason, this team is going nowhere next year with the current state of this defense. Obviously based on todays signing there is next to nothing in the FA market to fill in the enormous gaps they have at saftey, pass rushing DE and LB. You saw what Dallas did to this team the last two games of the year, the gap is LARGE. This was an 11 win team largely on the ridiciolous big play production they got out of DeSean Jackson. We are going on year 12 of the Andy Reid era and we have nothing to show for it yet another 10-11 win season with no possibility of winning a SuperBowl with a QB that could care less eitehr way is acceptable for you?. I couldn't dole McNabb fast enough for 2.06 - Best Defensive draft in 20 years they're saying.Obvisouly it's your opinion and you have every right to it, but if they can let Dawkins walk with absoltuely nothing as a adequate backup then why the hell not get a high pick for McNabb and let the 25 year old you groomed for this spot take it over

I would be very happy with 2.06 for McNabb. I would be giddy if we got even more considering that he is only under contract for one more year.

 

[Ignatius Reilly]

And I'm asking you why you feel that getting anything at this point for McNabb is a bad thing, especially a high second pick.

Because I don't think the 2.06 is enough return for what we're giving up, which is likely 10+ wins and a very good shot at a playoff run in 2010.

Jason, this team is going nowhere next year with the current state of this defense. Obviously based on todays signing there is next to nothing in the FA market to fill in the enormous gaps they have at saftey, pass rushing DE and LB. You saw what Dallas did to this team the last two games of the year, the gap is LARGE. This was an 11 win team largely on the ridiciolous big play production they got out of DeSean Jackson. We are going on year 12 of the Andy Reid era and we have nothing to show for it yet another 10-11 win season with no possibility of winning a SuperBowl with a QB that could care less eitehr way is acceptable for you?. I couldn't dole McNabb fast enough for 2.06 - Best Defensive draft in 20 years they're saying.Obvisouly it's your opinion and you have every right to it, but if they can let Dawkins walk with absoltuely nothing as a adequate backup then why the hell not get a high pick for McNabb and let the 25 year old you groomed for this spot take it over

And that's not mentioning this clown is actually going to shoot a TV show where he is on the same basketball team as Terell Owens. Jason, you're QB is a FRAUD and has no killer instinct.

 

[Zoomanji]

And I'm asking you why you feel that getting anything at this point for McNabb is a bad thing, especially a high second pick.

Because I don't think the 2.06 is enough return for what we're giving up, which is likely 10+ wins and a very good shot at a playoff run in 2010.

I'm with you but the reality is he going to be gone and the fans will get their wish of Bobby Hoying Ver2.0. Mcnabb is going to take the fall for Reid's awful personnel decisions but we'll get a 2nd round pick and a high character guy in M. Vick to finish out 2011. At least at 6-10 we'll have a decent pick and another good O-lineman in the 2011 draft.So, ummm, can I get you tickets?

 

[Ignatius Reilly]

And I'm asking you why you feel that getting anything at this point for McNabb is a bad thing, especially a high second pick.

Because I don't think the 2.06 is enough return for what we're giving up, which is likely 10+ wins and a very good shot at a playoff run in 2010.

I'm with you but the reality is he going to be gone and the fans will get their wish of Bobby Hoying Ver2.0. Mcnabb is going to take the fall for Reid's awful personnel decisions but we'll get a 2nd round pick and a high character guy in M. Vick to finish out 2011. At least at 6-10 we'll have a decent pick and another good O-lineman in the 2011 draft.So, ummm, can I get you tickets?

How is he Bobby Hoying based on what you saw last year? At least Bobby Hoying never threw his young WR corps under the bus. What a joke McNabb is. I don't understand how any Eagle fan can tolerate another season of him.

 

[Amused to Death]

I really don't understand the thinking that we HAVE to have one more year of competive-but-not-quite-good-enough football at the expense of the future of the team. If they were clearly one of the best teams in the NFC and a championship was a real possibility I'd think different.

To me the options are keep a lame duck QB who knows he's being shopped (and the rest of the team knows it as well), come up short again and let him walk with no compensation. Then after he's gone we still don't know if Kolb is the real deal or if they have to draft another guy who will take 2 to 3 years to develop, thereby wasting some of DJax and Maclin's prime years. This assumes McNabb would even play at 34 years old with no future guaranteed money.

Or they can take a 2nd round pick (or whatever's offered), let Kolb run the team and develop chemistry with the young guys a year earlier and see what we have.

 

[CaptainHook]

If they get pick 2.06 for mcnabb i will sperm all over my house

 

[Nagle2998]

I have no problems with taking a year off by trading McNabb and building for 2011 with the additional pick or picks. I am a McNabb fan but I don't think they have any shot this year so get what you can for him now. The only problem I have is I have zero faith in Kolb as a starting QB so I would hope they have a decent plan B besides the animal Vick.

 

[Cassius]

If they get pick 2.06 for mcnabb i will sperm all over my house

 

[CaptainHook]

I have no problems with taking a year off by trading McNabb and building for 2011 with the additional pick or picks. I am a McNabb fan but I don't think they have any shot this year so get what you can for him now. The only problem I have is I have zero faith in Kolb as a starting QB so I would hope they have a decent plan B besides the animal Vick.

Why do you have zero faith in Kolb? I'm not sold on him but he's been arguably spectacular in his first few starts. I think we can all agree that Mcnabb is not the long-term solution and on a team like this with such young studs I really hope they make a decision with more than the upcoming season in mind.

 

[Ignatius Reilly]

I really don't understand the thinking that we HAVE to have one more year of competive-but-not-quite-good-enough football at the expense of the future of the team. If they were clearly one of the best teams in the NFC and a championship was a real possibility I'd think different.To me the options are keep a lame duck QB who knows he's being shopped (and the rest of the team knows it as well), come up short again and let him walk with no compensation. Then after he's gone we still don't know if Kolb is the real deal or if they have to draft another guy who will take 2 to 3 years to develop, thereby wasting some of DJax and Maclin's prime years. This assumes McNabb would even play at 34 years old with no future guaranteed money.Or they can take a 2nd round pick (or whatever's offered), let Kolb run the team and develop chemistry with the young guys a year earlier and see what we have.

Exactly.I'll take a 7-9 year if you told me they're going to build this defense into a monster in two years. Let's face it, if they had any intentions of keeping McNabb longterm they would have extended him last summer instead of pacifying him by giving him more money. So they should what, hold on to him and go through this same tired act again of 10-6 and maybe the Divisional Playoffs?? This defense is simply not championship caliber. They're not winning 11 games with this team next year, not in this division and the fact that they have to play the AFC South.I've supported McNabb his whole carrer but I jsut can't go through another season of this anymore. Tear this defense down and rebuild it - by the time it's ready to rock the offensive playmakers still won't be 25 yet. I'm really optimistic about there long term if they nail this draft.

 

[Kwai Chang Caine]

Comcast Sports Net reporting that Seahawks are interested in Kolb and NOT McNabb.

 

[CaptainHook]

Comcast Sports Net reporting that Seahawks are interested in Kolb and NOT McNabb.

Sigh

 

[Ignatius Reilly]

Comcast Sports Net reporting that Seahawks are interested in Kolb and NOT McNabb.

Sigh

*CLICK* ****dial tone****

 

[CaptainHook]

Comcast Sports Net reporting that Seahawks are interested in Kolb and NOT McNabb.

Sigh

*CLICK* ****dial tone****

theres definitely nothing wrong with letting some team overpay for kolbs very unproven potential and rolling with mcnabb for another couple yearsid rather be watching kolb next year but ill only be upset if they try to keep both players.

 

[Pickle Rody]

Comcast Sports Net reporting that Seahawks are interested in Kolb and NOT McNabb.

Sigh

*CLICK* ****dial tone****

Exactly..........if the Seahawks aren't offering a TON to get Kolb, then he should stay put. Why on earth should the Eagles spend 3 years grooming him to be their future QB and then send him packing for anything less than a boatload of value? Keep McNabb and Kolb....cut ties with Vick....NOW!

 

[bweiser]

i admitted, i might have missed it, but ...

didn't the last page talk about the seahawks trading 1.06 for mcnabb? how did it become 2.06?

 

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[renesauz]

And I'm asking you why you feel that getting anything at this point for McNabb is a bad thing, especially a high second pick.

Because I don't think the 2.06 is enough return for what we're giving up, which is likely 10+ wins and a very good shot at a playoff run in 2010.

I'd interpret this as more of an indictment of Kolb then an abnormal man-crush for #5.I have worn at least 6 differant #5 jerseys over the years, but a low 1/very high 2 for him right now really makes sense....but I think Kolb will be a good one too.

 

[renesauz]

Comcast Sports Net reporting that Seahawks are interested in Kolb and NOT McNabb.

Sigh

*CLICK* ****dial tone****

theres definitely nothing wrong with letting some team overpay for kolbs very unproven potential and rolling with mcnabb for another couple yearsid rather be watching kolb next year but ill only be upset if they try to keep both players.

But they HAVE TO OVERPAY ...a mid-high first at least

 

[JetMaxx]

Getting rid of McNabb will be addition by subtraction at this point. I've had enough of his repetitive failures and lack of leadership. Any draft pick compensation would be gravy. Top of the 2nd rd in this draft for a 34 yr old QB with a yr left on his contract is more than fair, anything more would be larceny.

 

[JetMaxx]

Comcast Sports Net reporting that Seahawks are interested in Kolb and NOT McNabb.

Sigh

*CLICK* ****dial tone****

Exactly..........if the Seahawks aren't offering a TON to get Kolb, then he should stay put. Why on earth should the Eagles spend 3 years grooming him to be their future QB and then send him packing for anything less than a boatload of value? Keep McNabb and Kolb....cut ties with Vick....NOW!

I would take no less than 1.14 and 3.06 for Kolb.

 

[Ignatius Reilly]

Comcast Sports Net reporting that Seahawks are interested in Kolb and NOT McNabb.

Sigh

*CLICK* ****dial tone****

theres definitely nothing wrong with letting some team overpay for kolbs very unproven potential and rolling with mcnabb for another couple yearsid rather be watching kolb next year but ill only be upset if they try to keep both players.

But they HAVE TO OVERPAY ...a mid-high first at least

This team spent their high #2 pick for him in 2007, so now just as he's ready to take off after developing him for three seasons, we should dole him for a #1 a few spots higher in the draft from where he was selected himself in '07??? If this front office is stupid enough to trade him, it better be for 2 #1's. QB's don't grow on trees in this league in case anyone hasn't noticed. From what I've seen of Kolb and his quick delivery, he is talior made for this offense. They have young, DYNAMIC playmakers to get the ball too, and yet we should waste anotehr year with McNabb and his antics?? The people who think Kolb is the 2nd coming of Bobby Hoying though are willing to trade him for a #1 pick which has the same success rate as basically flipping a coin in terms of that pick being sucessful.They need to load up on picks and draft defense, becasue we can go back and forth on McNabb all day but he's not even close to being the problem on this team. The Eagles are going to score points in bunches next year regardless whos the QB.

 

[D'OHtis]

I wouldn't take anything less than Bradford for Kolb. So I guess 1.01 then.

They're going to have to pay a QB.

 

[JetMaxx]

They need to load up on picks and draft defense, becasue we can go back and forth on McNabb all day but he's not even close to being the problem on this team. The Eagles are going to score points in bunched next year regardless whos the QB.

Great point.

 

[musicman_17046]

Hi guys,haven't been here for a while. I don't think you trade Kolb for anything less than 2 #1s. He is exactly what this offense needs. I long for the day when we hit a WR on a slant in stride.Kolb has the quick release that 5 does not /will not and has never had.I long for a receiver having the ball in his hands the moment he breaks on a 15 yard and out .For years I've been saying #5 is a playaction type QB and have screamed at AR for McNabb running playaction after 5 straight pass plays.It doesn't work that way.Kolb is a gunslinger,and if we aren't going to run I want to see him get his chance.

 

[Bob Wiley]

Big McNabb fan here, but I'm thinking at some point you've got to hand over the reigns to the young Kolb. And if you can get something in return for McNabb, that would be great.

But regardless of the QB talk, the big problem is on defense. Is there any reason that the Eagles wouldn't give up a 1st and a 3rd for Elvis Dumervil and put him opposite Trent Cole. Both of those guys are young and they're beasts. We'd have our DEs locked up for a while. I know a 1st and a 3rd is a lot to give up for anyone, but if you really think about it, the draft is a big crapshoot anyway. I think you've a got a 50% chance to hit on anything good in the draft and even less of a chance to hit on anything great.

 

[bighandsray]

Big McNabb fan here, but I'm thinking at some point you've got to hand over the reigns to the young Kolb. And if you can get something in return for McNabb, that would be great.But regardless of the QB talk, the big problem is on defense. Is there any reason that the Eagles wouldn't give up a 1st and a 3rd for Elvis Dumervil and put him opposite Trent Cole. Both of those guys are young and they're beasts. We'd have our DEs locked up for a while. I know a 1st and a 3rd is a lot to give up for anyone, but if you really think about it, the draft is a big crapshoot anyway. I think you've a got a 50% chance to hit on anything good in the draft and even less of a chance to hit on anything great.

I think he is too small to play DE every down in the 4-3 defense.

 

[Lehigh98]

I'm starting to get a bad feeling about this offseason.

 

[Snotbubbles]

I'm starting to get a bad feeling about this offseason.

They are bringing back everyone major contributor to a team that made the playoffs last year except Will Witherspoon.They are adding Stewart Bradley and potentially Shawn Andrews and Marlin Jackson.They are also adding pick 24, 55, 70 and 82 plus some later picks. And possibly more if they trade one of McNabb or Kolb. This team will be fine.

 

[Nagle2998]

I'm starting to get a bad feeling about this offseason.

They are bringing back everyone major contributor to a team that made the playoffs last year except Will Witherspoon.They are adding Stewart Bradley and potentially Shawn Andrews and Marlin Jackson.They are also adding pick 24, 55, 70 and 82 plus some later picks. And possibly more if they trade one of McNabb or Kolb. This team will be fine.

True but isn't the team that beat the snot of the Eagles three times last year bringing everyone back also plus their picks. I agree Bradley will help some but this is his 2nd knee injury the same thing can be said for Jackson. I have zero faith that Shawn Andrews will ever play a full season again but I think Stacy will be fine at RG. It just seems like your counting on a bunch of injured players to make the teams as good as the Vikings, Saints and Cowboys. Witherspoon wasn't a stud by any means buy if they plan on replacing him with Fokou or Jordan I think that's a step back.

 

[Snotbubbles]

I'm starting to get a bad feeling about this offseason.

They are bringing back everyone major contributor to a team that made the playoffs last year except Will Witherspoon.They are adding Stewart Bradley and potentially Shawn Andrews and Marlin Jackson.They are also adding pick 24, 55, 70 and 82 plus some later picks. And possibly more if they trade one of McNabb or Kolb. This team will be fine.

True but isn't the team that beat the snot of the Eagles three times last year bringing everyone back also plus their picks. I agree Bradley will help some but this is his 2nd knee injury the same thing can be said for Jackson. I have zero faith that Shawn Andrews will ever play a full season again but I think Stacy will be fine at RG. It just seems like your counting on a bunch of injured players to make the teams as good as the Vikings, Saints and Cowboys. Witherspoon wasn't a stud by any means buy if they plan on replacing him with Fokou or Jordan I think that's a step back.

The Eagles beat the snot out of the Cowboys the season before. Then in the offseason the Cowboys drafted Mike Jenkins, signed Zach Thomas, got rid of TO and got Felix Jones back from injury. That's pretty much it. The Eagles will be adding more impact players this year.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

I'm told that there's a much better than average chance that either McNabb or Kolb will be gone to Seattle with-in a week. I asked how sure he was and he said 70%. Talks are moving very well according to him. I asked which QB he thought was gone and he sighed and said 'the wrong one'. Knowing he is a Kolb fan, I know he can't be happy.

At least Wood can keep his season tickets.

 

[Lehigh98]

I'm told that there's a much better than average chance that either McNabb or Kolb will be gone to Seattle with-in a week. I asked how sure he was and he said 70%. Talks are moving very well according to him. I asked which QB he thought was gone and he sighed and said 'the wrong one'. Knowing he is a Kolb fan, I know he can't be happy.

At least Wood can keep his season tickets.

Any idea of what we're asking or what's on the table for KK?

 

[roarlions]

Interesting comparing the information being provided by DH in this thread and by G-King in the thread discussing McNabb or Kolb being traded to Seattle. If both are right, then the Eagles will be gaining some pretty valuable draft picks. I'm not sure that is the route they should be taking if they are keeping McNabb at QB.

 

[musicman_17046]

We had a S new to the system,welost our nickel for 4 games and he didn't play well IMO,we had a S enter the picture who was a rookie and hadn't played the position and everyone but Mike Caldwell suited up at LB including Trotter for pete's sake.We also had a DC in year 1.A nice long offseason of R&R made this team better.IMO a healthy LB corp will make our DBs better. They had their responsibilities and IMO they tried to cover up a totally inept group of LBs as well and because of all the newbies MvDermott stayed very vanilla.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Interesting comparing the information being provided by DH in this thread and by G-King in the thread discussing McNabb or Kolb being traded to Seattle. If both are right, then the Eagles will be gaining some pretty valuable draft picks. I'm not sure that is the route they should be taking if they are keeping McNabb at QB.

Yes, it will be interesting. G-King is saying (2) 1sts and a 3rd or 4th for Kolb. I assume the Seahawks 2nd #1 this year and one in '11. If that's the case, I can live with McNabb for a few more years.

 

[Jason Wood]

I'm told that there's a much better than average chance that either McNabb or Kolb will be gone to Seattle with-in a week. I asked how sure he was and he said 70%. Talks are moving very well according to him. I asked which QB he thought was gone and he sighed and said 'the wrong one'. Knowing he is a Kolb fan, I know he can't be happy.

At least Wood can keep his season tickets.

I can only hope this is true. I will be GIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDY!

 

[Deranged Hermit]

Interesting comparing the information being provided by DH in this thread and by G-King in the thread discussing McNabb or Kolb being traded to Seattle. If both are right, then the Eagles will be gaining some pretty valuable draft picks. I'm not sure that is the route they should be taking if they are keeping McNabb at QB.

Who's G-King?Anyway, the info I got was a 1st this year, a conditional next year depending on several factors (but should be no lower than a second) and another pick this year for Kolb. The Eagles are obviously wanting next year's pick that they get to be guarenteed.

For McNabb, it's a little murkier. I'm hearing everything from McNabb and 1.24 for Seattle's pick they got from Chicago to a second rounder.

It seems like Seattle is very much playing a fantasy football-like trading game. Initially asking for McNabb's price than switching gears after hearing it and saying that maybe thay'd give that for someone who's younger....hint, hint, wink, wink, nudge, nudge.

 

[Jason Wood]

Interesting comparing the information being provided by DH in this thread and by G-King in the thread discussing McNabb or Kolb being traded to Seattle. If both are right, then the Eagles will be gaining some pretty valuable draft picks. I'm not sure that is the route they should be taking if they are keeping McNabb at QB.

Who's G-King?Anyway, the info I got was a 1st this year, a conditional next year depending on several factors (but should be no lower than a second) and another pick this year for Kolb. The Eagles are obviously wanting next year's pick that they get to be guarenteed.

For McNabb, it's a little murkier. I'm hearing everything from McNabb and 1.24 for Seattle's pick they got from Chicago to a second rounder.

It seems like Seattle is very much playing a fantasy football-like trading game. Initially asking for McNabb's price than switching gears after hearing it and saying that maybe thay'd give that for someone who's younger....hint, hint, wink, wink, nudge, nudge.

OMG...if we got a 1st this year, another pick and a 2nd/1st next year for Corn on the Kolb, I would do the dance of joy from here to Independence Hall.

 

[Mighty Mice]

If the choice were simply "McNabb vs. Kolb" for 2010, I would take KK. That being said, I trade KK for 1.14, 2010 3rd, 2011 1st. If they can "guarantee" the 2011 pick will be a 1st, how could they not pull the trigger?

2 firsts and an 3rd? INSANE value for KK.

Interesting comparing the information being provided by DH in this thread and by G-King in the thread discussing McNabb or Kolb being traded to Seattle. If both are right, then the Eagles will be gaining some pretty valuable draft picks. I'm not sure that is the route they should be taking if they are keeping McNabb at QB.

Who's G-King?Anyway, the info I got was a 1st this year, a conditional next year depending on several factors (but should be no lower than a second) and another pick this year for Kolb. The Eagles are obviously wanting next year's pick that they get to be guarenteed.

For McNabb, it's a little murkier. I'm hearing everything from McNabb and 1.24 for Seattle's pick they got from Chicago to a second rounder.

It seems like Seattle is very much playing a fantasy football-like trading game. Initially asking for McNabb's price than switching gears after hearing it and saying that maybe thay'd give that for someone who's younger....hint, hint, wink, wink, nudge, nudge.

OMG...if we got a 1st this year, another pick and a 2nd/1st next year for Corn on the Kolb, I would do the dance of joy from here to Independence Hall.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Interesting comparing the information being provided by DH in this thread and by G-King in the thread discussing McNabb or Kolb being traded to Seattle. If both are right, then the Eagles will be gaining some pretty valuable draft picks. I'm not sure that is the route they should be taking if they are keeping McNabb at QB.

Who's G-King?Anyway, the info I got was a 1st this year, a conditional next year depending on several factors (but should be no lower than a second) and another pick this year for Kolb. The Eagles are obviously wanting next year's pick that they get to be guarenteed.

For McNabb, it's a little murkier. I'm hearing everything from McNabb and 1.24 for Seattle's pick they got from Chicago to a second rounder.

It seems like Seattle is very much playing a fantasy football-like trading game. Initially asking for McNabb's price than switching gears after hearing it and saying that maybe thay'd give that for someone who's younger....hint, hint, wink, wink, nudge, nudge.

I think G-King is like you. Has a friend in Seattles FO.

 

[Amused to Death]

Interesting comparing the information being provided by DH in this thread and by G-King in the thread discussing McNabb or Kolb being traded to Seattle. If both are right, then the Eagles will be gaining some pretty valuable draft picks. I'm not sure that is the route they should be taking if they are keeping McNabb at QB.

Who's G-King?Anyway, the info I got was a 1st this year, a conditional next year depending on several factors (but should be no lower than a second) and another pick this year for Kolb. The Eagles are obviously wanting next year's pick that they get to be guarenteed.

For McNabb, it's a little murkier. I'm hearing everything from McNabb and 1.24 for Seattle's pick they got from Chicago to a second rounder.

It seems like Seattle is very much playing a fantasy football-like trading game. Initially asking for McNabb's price than switching gears after hearing it and saying that maybe thay'd give that for someone who's younger....hint, hint, wink, wink, nudge, nudge.

I think G-King is like you. Has a friend in Seattles FO.

I'm too lazy to go back and look, but I think he said childhood friend of Kolb's. I think his news (reportedly) comes from what Kolb's being told by the team.I take everything with a grain of salt, but so far I have no reason to doubt either DH or G-King's word. I know the whole process is very fluid and even the so-called "inside sources" may not get the complete truth. But I appreciate all of it!!

 

[G-King]

Interesting comparing the information being provided by DH in this thread and by G-King in the thread discussing McNabb or Kolb being traded to Seattle. If both are right, then the Eagles will be gaining some pretty valuable draft picks. I'm not sure that is the route they should be taking if they are keeping McNabb at QB.

Who's G-King?Anyway, the info I got was a 1st this year, a conditional next year depending on several factors (but should be no lower than a second) and another pick this year for Kolb. The Eagles are obviously wanting next year's pick that they get to be guarenteed.

For McNabb, it's a little murkier. I'm hearing everything from McNabb and 1.24 for Seattle's pick they got from Chicago to a second rounder.

It seems like Seattle is very much playing a fantasy football-like trading game. Initially asking for McNabb's price than switching gears after hearing it and saying that maybe thay'd give that for someone who's younger....hint, hint, wink, wink, nudge, nudge.

I think G-King is like you. Has a friend in Seattles FO.

Wrong. No ties to Seattle at all.VERY strong ties to one of the players in question.

 

[CaptainHook]

hey Jason Wood shouldn't the willingness of seattle to offer so much make you possibly reconsider your evaluation of kolb's worth?

 

[Domination]

Interesting comparing the information being provided by DH in this thread and by G-King in the thread discussing McNabb or Kolb being traded to Seattle. If both are right, then the Eagles will be gaining some pretty valuable draft picks. I'm not sure that is the route they should be taking if they are keeping McNabb at QB.

Who's G-King?Anyway, the info I got was a 1st this year, a conditional next year depending on several factors (but should be no lower than a second) and another pick this year for Kolb. The Eagles are obviously wanting next year's pick that they get to be guarenteed.

For McNabb, it's a little murkier. I'm hearing everything from McNabb and 1.24 for Seattle's pick they got from Chicago to a second rounder.

It seems like Seattle is very much playing a fantasy football-like trading game. Initially asking for McNabb's price than switching gears after hearing it and saying that maybe thay'd give that for someone who's younger....hint, hint, wink, wink, nudge, nudge.

If this is truly the value that we could get for Kolb, then I understand trading him. But as a longtime fan, I would be very disappointed. I think that we would remain in the same holding pattern with McNabb that we have been in for the last 10 years. As he gets older, he is not getting better, and then we would have no one for the future. It's a shame that I feel that even by getting insane value for Kolb, we would be taking a step in the wrong direction for the future. But hey, everyone will be happy that we are making the playoffs, even if we can't win the Superbowl. Kolb offered a chance for progression, although he did offer a chance for regression. With McNabb, we will continue to get more of the same.

 

[Jason Wood]

hey Jason Wood shouldn't the willingness of seattle to offer so much make you possibly reconsider your evaluation of kolb's worth?

Let me clarify something. I don't dispute the Kolb could be good. Presumably Andy used the same scouting eye on him that he did to pick McNabb with the 2nd overall pick. I just don't like the ODDS of betting on Kolb being as good or better than McNabb. And therefore would like to see them keep riding with the horse that brought them, while leveraging Kolb at what I suspect will be his highest value.Also, just like in investing, for every buyer there's a seller. You only really get great value in a trade when one side is wrong. I'm hoping that Seattle is overvaluing Kolb

 

[Amused to Death]

Interesting comparing the information being provided by DH in this thread and by G-King in the thread discussing McNabb or Kolb being traded to Seattle. If both are right, then the Eagles will be gaining some pretty valuable draft picks. I'm not sure that is the route they should be taking if they are keeping McNabb at QB.

Who's G-King?Anyway, the info I got was a 1st this year, a conditional next year depending on several factors (but should be no lower than a second) and another pick this year for Kolb. The Eagles are obviously wanting next year's pick that they get to be guarenteed.

For McNabb, it's a little murkier. I'm hearing everything from McNabb and 1.24 for Seattle's pick they got from Chicago to a second rounder.

It seems like Seattle is very much playing a fantasy football-like trading game. Initially asking for McNabb's price than switching gears after hearing it and saying that maybe thay'd give that for someone who's younger....hint, hint, wink, wink, nudge, nudge.

If this is truly the value that we could get for Kolb, then I understand trading him. But as a longtime fan, I would be very disappointed. I think that we would remain in the same holding pattern with McNabb that we have been in for the last 10 years. As he gets older, he is not getting better, and then we would have no one for the future. It's a shame that I feel that even by getting insane value for Kolb, we would be taking a step in the wrong direction for the future. But hey, everyone will be happy that we are making the playoffs, even if we can't win the Superbowl. Kolb offered a chance for progression, although he did offer a chance for regression. With McNabb, we will continue to get more of the same.

The picks are nice, but doesn't address the long-term plan at QB. And the team ain't going anywhere without that. But hey, McNabb will get us to the playoffs again...maybe. Guess we should just be satisfied being the 4th or 5th best in the NFC.

How embarrassing would it be if a Kolb-led Seahawks team knocks the Eagles out in the first round in '11?